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Trailbreaker · #**126** 10-25-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bayhem

You mean you didn't like "the greatest movie of all time"?

lol, to this very day I still don't know why it was such a massive success. The audience reaction is actually quite mixed to this very day. In fact, it only holds a 7.3/10 on IMDb. (and for sh*ts and giggles I'll throw in ROTF, which holds 6.2/10 there too, that's a 1.1 star difference!)

2 Reasons Why Titanic was such a success:
-It's James Cameron!
-The Ship is the Titanic! We all know what that is!

Now here's a movie I would totally see, a love story that takes place on a ship, except, this ship would be the RMS Lusitania! That ship also sank, but not because of an iceberg, it was torpedoed by a German U-Boat, killing 1,198 of the 1,959 people on board. It was also one of the events that eventually lead to World War I. Now wouldn't that be an interesting story? I sure think so, but too bad it's not the Titanic, because how many people have heard of the Lusitania?

But please keep in mind that this will not prevent me from seeing Avatar.

Xsubs · #**127** 10-25-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayhem

You mean you didn't like "the greatest movie of all time"?

Highest grossing film of all time.

Greatest film of all time is still 'Citizen Kane'

Xsubs · #**128** 10-25-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Trailbreaker

lol, to this very day I still don't know why it was such a massive success. The audience reaction is actually quite mixed to this very day. In fact, it only holds a 7.3/10 on IMDb. (and for sh*ts and giggles I'll throw in ROTF, which holds 6.2/10 there too, that's a 1.1 star difference!)

2 Reasons Why Titanic was such a success:
-It's James Cameron!
-The Ship is the Titanic! We all know what that is!

Now here's a movie I would totally see, a love story that takes place on a ship, except, this ship would be the RMS Lusitania! That ship also sank, but not because of an iceberg, it was torpedoed by a German U-Boat, killing 1,198 of the 1,959 people on board. It was also one of the events that eventually lead to World War I. Now wouldn't that be an interesting story? I sure think so, but too bad it's not the Titanic, because how many people have heard of the Lusitania?

But please keep in mind that this will not prevent me from seeing Avatar.

Titanic was a film aimed at people who are interested in romance/Drama. Not people who are into explosions. Obviously Titanic had shown that there were many audiences out there who love this sort of stuff. I personally didn't like Titanic because Im more of an Action/sci fi movie geek. But that doesn't mean the movie is horrible to everyone else. You making the assumption that the movie was a success due to it being a James Cameron film is somewhat Bias and unjustifiable.

Rotten tomatoes:
Critics: 82% with a certified fresh rating.
RT community (general audience): 81%

Trailbreaker · #**129** 10-25-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Xsubs

You making the assumption that the movie was a success due to it being a James Cameron film is somewhat Bias and unjustifiable.

I can justify that. Look at the new Avatar trailer. They practically listed Cameron's entire filmography in the trailer. Obviously they're marketing it by using James Cameron and his previous works, not the movie itself. Now I can't remember if his name was actually in that trailer or not, but you can tell their intention is to get people to say to their buddies:

"Hey Bob, wanna go see Avatar?"
"Uhhh that movie there with the blue people?"
"Yeah!"
"I dunno Fred."
"C'mon! It's by the guy who did Aliens and Terminator!"
"Well you had me there! This outta be really good!"

If you want my opinion, listing all of Cameron's previous works in that trailer seemed like a very desperate move to me, a response to the very mixed reaction to the first trailer.

What they should have done was offer free screenings of that awesome 15 minute preview in all theaters, not just IMAX. Because not everyone, including myself can catch an IMAX in their area.

razgriz21 · #**130** 10-25-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayhem

You mean you didn't like "the greatest movie of all time"?

It was over hyped in my opinion and I'm not really much into cliche romance or romance in general (except the Sam and Mikaela relationship in Transformers 1 and 2).

Granted, the set design, costume, cinematography, casting, and FX were great, but the plot to Titanic was standard romance novel fluff.

I hope Cameron has gone back to his Terminator and Aliens roots (Yes, I'm a fan of Michael Biehn).

Mindfreak87 · #**131** 10-29-2009, 02:27 PM

Full 3:30 trailer in HD:

480p - http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplayli...d&sid=96012713
720p - http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplayli...d&sid=96012715
1080p - http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplayli...d&sid=96012717

r-type · #**132** 10-29-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfreak87

Full 3:30 trailer in HD:

480p - http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplayli...d&sid=96012713
720p - http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplayli...d&sid=96012715
1080p - http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplayli...d&sid=96012717

Thx for the heads up, Mf!

alexsm · #**133** 10-29-2009, 03:35 PM

Cameron, I'm in!

Mindfreak87 · #**134** 10-29-2009, 10:47 PM

If you thought the new trailer was wicked you have to watch the featurette: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geNv6FUK0HU

New scenes, it really is a visual masterpiece, as for the story it is rather boring if you ask me.

r-type · #**135** 10-29-2009, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfreak87

If you thought the new trailer was wicked you have to watch the featurette: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geNv6FUK0HU

New scenes, it really is a visual masterpiece, as for the story it is rather boring if you ask me.

2 for 2 Mf, thank you!

Although, spoilers abound in this featurette, for those that wish not to know.

Mindfreak87 · #**136** 10-30-2009, 12:02 AM

For anyone with a PS3 / XBOX you can download the trailer encodes here:
(watch them on the console via streaming, usb stick etc)

480p - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EZKYF78Z
720p - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EJAYVQVV
1080p - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HMFKOFFD

And you can download the featurette here (note: downloaded from the YouTube servers):

http://rapidshare.com/files/29983416...Featurette.mp4
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J97B6AZ2

Trailbreaker · #**137** 11-02-2009, 07:09 AM

I just totally saw Avatar action figures in the toy section at my Target yesterday. Seriously.

Mr.Gabba · #**138** 11-03-2009, 09:45 AM

Avatar just looks boring to me. Nothing in it tells me that I need to watch this movie. Hell, the trailer told me WAY more than I wanted to know, and now I feel like I know the whole movie or that it was spoiled for me.

And I worked in a movie theater when Titanic was out, and droves of teenage girls kept coming back to see this movie for months. My wife has told me that she saw it 7 times. It's ok, I just like the sinking part.

littleman794 · #**139** 11-03-2009, 12:37 PM

i think they are going to ruin it

Michael Do · #**140** 11-03-2009, 03:10 PM

the soundtrack from the beginning is from The Island i think

Burnflare · #**141** 11-04-2009, 01:09 AM

Looks epic. I'll be seeing this one for sure.

nelson · #**142** 11-08-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Trailbreaker

lol, to this very day I still don't know why it was such a massive success. The audience reaction is actually quite mixed to this very day. In fact, it only holds a 7.3/10 on IMDb. (and for sh*ts and giggles I'll throw in ROTF, which holds 6.2/10 there too, that's a 1.1 star difference!)

2 Reasons Why Titanic was such a success:
-It's James Cameron!
-The Ship is the Titanic! We all know what that is!

Now here's a movie I would totally see, a love story that takes place on a ship, except, this ship would be the RMS Lusitania! That ship also sank, but not because of an iceberg, it was torpedoed by a German U-Boat, killing 1,198 of the 1,959 people on board. It was also one of the events that eventually lead to World War I. Now wouldn't that be an interesting story? I sure think so, but too bad it's not the Titanic, because how many people have heard of the Lusitania?

But please keep in mind that this will not prevent me from seeing Avatar.

Actually, Titanic made lots of money because of one MAIN factor:

Little girls watching it 20x to see Leo DiCaprio.

The Titanic was the marketing factor. This could have been a movie about the Lusitania and it still would've made the amount of money it did.

Mindfreak87 · #**143** 11-08-2009, 09:39 PM

TV Spot with some new footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxuNtDhCZZI

Drake · #**144** 11-08-2009, 10:44 PM

I actually really enjoyed Titanic, with Leo being a minor distraction. I tend to like a lot of what Cameron does, but I don't think Avatar will be a movie that I want to see. The trailer looked godawful.

Bayhem · #**145** 11-09-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfreak87

TV Spot with some new footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxuNtDhCZZI

"The Greatest Adventure of All Time"

I'm not so sure about that...

Bot Girl · #**146** 11-09-2009, 02:03 PM

I actually liked Titanic, too. Just a couple minor quibbles: The love story was a little syrupy for my taste, but I tend to dislike "chick flick" type stuff anyway; and, with all the wonderful real stories of love lost on that ship , did they feel the need to bring in another one?

r-type · #**147** 11-09-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayhem

"The Greatest? Adventure of All Time"

I'm not so sure about that...

They need to chill with that kind of hyperbole. That's up to me (read: the audience) to decide.

Trailbreaker · #**148** 11-09-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayhem

"The Greatest Adventure of All Time"

I'm not so sure about that...

Then about a year later some other guy will use the same exact phrase for their movie.

"THE ABSOLUTE GREATEST ADVENTURE IN ALL OF THE HISTORY OF MANKIND, EVAAAARR!!!!!!!!!!!"

littleman794 · #**149** 11-09-2009, 03:41 PM

"The LAMEST adventure of all the f*cked up time we live in"

r-type · #**150** 11-09-2009, 04:10 PM

NY Times article on the marketing, budgetary concerns, and various companies involved.

Link

*Although I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the last part of the article. (re: 20th Century Fox's "secret weapon")