The Official DOTM Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

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I fucking hate this country: Every single copy of TF3 and even Cpt. America has been dubbed!!!

Now I can't even go to theaters, what's next? Food? The way the country is going, I say in 2 years.

[Albershide]

Well we've seen the opinions of most of the regulars here, including Andreas and Sora, but not a single word from you Nelson. What's your opinion about the movie. Did you like it? Is it better than the first one in your eyes?

[PSofosNextGen]

I just watched the movie the other day. LOVED IT!
SO much better than 2. I would even say better than 1!
In fact, it makes part 2 useless, except to explain Meg's face in 3.

The 3D was just so vivid! I love the depth! The music!! THERE'S SO MUCH MUSIC NOT ON THE SOUNDTRACK!!! D:

I really hope the bluray has the motherload of special features. Sound design, soundtracks, cg demos of the bots, the life and time of the tree that the drillbot destroyed!!!

This one was certainly darker than the other ones. When Sentinal revealed his true motives, it was horrifying. I was in complete shock for the next 5 minutes. I couldn't even laugh when the scene changed and they threw in some humor. I had calm myself.

The most intense movie I've seen in a long time. The last time I was that thrilled and on edge was when I watched The Dark Knight and the Saw movies.

I must say, this exceeded all expectations. I was laughing, smiling and crying so much, it was too good. At several times in the movie, I just wanted to shout and cheer!

I'm so glad I caught the epic conclusion to Bay's Transformers in its 3D... "prime", shall we say?

I can't wait to get this on bluray!! Might even upgrade me tv and bluray player to 3D just for this movie!!!

Me too and i have 60 inchees TV so it will be pretty little expensive move

[baddog]

good movie..

i think shockwave is a soft character. i waited powerfull and killer shockwave.
the movie deserve shockwave violence also decepticon viloence but its soft

action scenes are very good. but if there was a jet to jet fight (not alien jet) it was so good.

shockwave , soundwave had not a special weapon and action.. i waited to soundwaves sound attacks like this..

whole movie ,one chasing scene. its not enough

and barricade i am sorry for him.. (writers says)

totaly good final.. thanks to everyone who works for the movie..
i enjoyed

[chops]

I enjoyed DOTM but I must say I was disappointed with a few things.

Soundwave in the movie for about 25 seconds? Thanks for teasing us and then not showing him at all the rest of the movie. I mean really? And how does he change from a gigantic satellite in the second movie into being half the size of Megatron. We all knew Megatron was big but that just didn't make sense. And they didn't show his earth mode. He had to be something besides a satellite right? He looked like he had the shape of a small car or something.

Killing off Ironhide? No respect.

Making Sentinel Prime a bad guy? Why not make Bumblebee bad too lol?

What a waste of a character with Shockwave. Make him seem total badass, then he shows up and says "Optimus" and runs? Wow Bay, just wow. And then he's hardly in the movie the rest of the way and gets beat easily.

Megatron tricked by a human female? Nice touch. I thought the reason the second movie wasn't too good was because of the writers strike? And then this is the script you guys come up with?

Disappointing on so many levels. I'm glad Hasbro is moving in a new direction in a few years with a reboot.

[IHeartBayhem]

I enjoyed DOTM but I must say I was disappointed with a few things.

Soundwave in the movie for about 25 seconds? Thanks for teasing us and then not showing him at all the rest of the movie. I mean really? And how does he change from a gigantic satellite in the second movie into being half the size of Megatron. We all knew Megatron was big but that just didn't make sense. And they didn't show his earth mode. He had to be something besides a satellite right? He looked like he had the shape of a small car or something.

He was Carly's car, remember? That was his earth mode. As for how he got that form, the game didn't quite explain that either, but a lot can happen in three years time.

Killing off Ironhide? No respect.

He died in the 1986 movie. Think of it as a homage.

Making Sentinel Prime a bad guy? Why not make Bumblebee bad too lol?

Primes before Optimus had a tendency to be jerks. Also, plot twist.

What a waste of a character with Shockwave. Make him seem total badass, then he shows up and says "Optimus" and runs? Wow Bay, just wow. And then he's hardly in the movie the rest of the way and gets beat easily.

I agree with this. It's not as annoying as The Fallen being in only 3 scenes despite him being the title character in ROTF, but it would have been cool if he was in the movie more.

Megatron tricked by a human female? Nice touch. I thought the reason the second movie wasn't too good was because of the writers strike? And then this is the script you guys come up with?

It wasn't so much "tricked" as much as "Damn, she has a point. I gonna go kick his ass!" which ultimately led to his demise, due to Prime turning into god.

[chops]

Thanks for the response.

Soundwave was Carly's car? I didn't even realize it. I thought the car was just some other decepticon. Did soundwave die?

[IHeartBayhem]

Thanks for the response.

Soundwave was Carly's car? I didn't even realize it. I thought the car was just some other decepticon. Did soundwave die?

Yeah, he was in the Chicago battle. Bumblebee uppercutted Soundwave, and blew his head off with his arm blaster at the same time.

[chops]

Oh I remember now. Dang, Soundwave died too. I guess Bay really is done if he left no enemies for any more movies.

[Richard prime]

Oh I remember now. Dang, Soundwave died too. I guess Bay really is done if he left no enemies for any more movies.

except IGOR

[IHeartBayhem]

except IGOR

I like to think that when IGOR is messing around with the Lincoln statue head, it rolls over and crushes him. LOL

[swishbig]

The only thing I agree with you is your point about Shockwave. It annoys the hell out of me. Megatron had the most screen time as a villain in all 3 movies and then they jumped on the plot twist and made Sentinel more of the main enemy in DOTM. Shockwave should have done way more and maybe there should have been a little bit less screen time on Sam and the humans to give equal screen time on all the other bots and cons *cough* Dino, Sideswipe, Ratchet, Soundwave, Shockwave, and Starscream.

[starscream1017]

my main disappointment was with Megatron dying at the end, and the ending. and not enough screen time for shockwave, the rest i can live with.

[boudie13]

I think how they built up the hype over shockwave was to conceal the fact that real villian in the movie was actually sentinel prime.

[CesarCardoso]

I think how they built up the hype over shockwave was to conceal the fact that real villian in the movie was actually sentinel prime.

exactly!

[Lbrosfilm]

I think how they built up the hype over shockwave was to conceal the fact that real villian in the movie was actually sentinel prime.

DING DING DING! We have a winner!

[Trailbreaker]

I think how they built up the hype over shockwave was to conceal the fact that real villian in the movie was actually sentinel prime.

Too many people completely missed the point on that one. We should be fortunate that we got a truly serious villain in this one. Sentinel wasn't your cliche Saturday morning cartoon "I'M GONNA RULE THE WORLD MUAHAHA!" type. He was a well-intentioned extremist.

[Link]

I think how they built up the hype over shockwave was to conceal the fact that real villian in the movie was actually sentinel prime.

That's why I sort of didn't care a lot about Shocky and how he'd fight since I wanted Sentinel dead.
Bay is one hell of an "inceptionist"

[boudie13]

I just remember when I watched it the first time that yes they did a hell of a job leading in with Shockwave at Chernobyl as him being badass, and then when Sentinel changed I was like wait a minute...what just happened...and as the movie progressed from that point forward, I knew we had been mislead...I can't wait for September 30th if it is truly being released on blue ray

[Richard prime]

Sentinel Prime was the only badass villian that was handle well unlike the fallen who was a complete shit villian, at least bay made a good villian.

[MrX]

You know, its been a while and looking back on the movie I can say that the only thing I was dissapointed about was that there was no Peter Cullan Cameo. They couldv'e had him in the elevator or have him walking out of the bathroom of the office building Sam worked in. Hey, they did it for Stan Lee for every Marvel Movie.

Maybe it'll be a DVD/Blue ray extra.

[saberrider]

For being a super fans of Transformers, I can said I like TF1 pretty much, ROTF is just ok but the DOTM is the worst, the rate would be like TF1 - 9.5/10, TF:ROTF - 7/10, TFOTM – 6/10, I just curious why it will getting worst from 1^st to 3^rd…From what I’ve learned, there something really need to improve or change in TF movie as follows:-

1. Give each Transformer an identity and give them enough screentime & transformations…Audience just hope can see their favourite transformers character with enough eye candy and don’t want them to die in a blink of an eye, they even can’t truly see what they really look like. Besides that, let see them fight in vehicles mode first before turn into robot. Don’t like Shockwave, we never see him in alternate mode. Please do it like TF1, a good example.
2. Audience expected all transformers have advance and great weapon system but they are lousy, just as great as military weapon like machine gun and ordinary missiles? They are aliens robot from outers space, why not use some weapon system that are not on earth, I meant just like weapon Blackout attack in TF1 was quite great, one shoot can damage an aeroplane. I just curious why Shockwave laser cannon would be some lousy missiles and where is shockwave sonic wave? All different Transformers should have their unique and specified weapons system.
3. Introduce combiner like Bruticus, Menasor or Superion…I can guarantee that all fans are waiting for them to show up…But just don’t show combiner like Devastator in TF2, that a mess, it had nothing great but slow motion, shape like gorilla and poor weapon system, its really weak if compare with cartoon one. For making a better combiner, they should have awesome design, move faster, advance weapon system, and the most important is before all the vehicles combine, they should transform to each robot first, and when they really can’t defeat their enemy only combine. Just disappointed they decided to introduce the dweller in TF3..
4. More robot appearance and action sequences in whole movies. I meant maybe 65% robot and 35% humans…They should have longer action sequences in the movie opening,second half and third half.. Etc like opening 10minits, second half 20 minutes and third half 20 minutes also, and for the final put it 40 minutes…Etc what we could said in the second half – Decepticons assault Pentagon and militaty base, and then autobots arrive to do battle to them, after that decepticons combine into Bruticus, it escape to highway or city, Autobots chase them and makes a lot of destructions all the way, maybe there around 3 or 4 autobots and deceptions are died in this sequences, Bruticus ecape successfully and show again in the last battle. Let Superion appear with in the final action sequences to battle Bruticus, thats would be great..
5. Makes all robots looks awesome etc like optimus prime and brawl. How can some Transformers look like human face, got hair/ beard and fat? That ridiculous…so many fans really don’t like that way, and how come they got blood? Makes it like TF1 please..
6. Ignore all the protoform soldier, they are not from cartoons and please don’t add in the movies.. Just show all transformers come to earth and scan vehicle that suit their size and become a character in the movies with an identity and have enough screen time…Makes all Decepticons hard to defeat. Just don’t die so easily. If can just show maybe one fight, two fight two or three fight two robots sequences…I think if got 10 action sequences at final battle then it would include around 30 robots. And if battle with combiner such as Bruticus we need 5-8 autobots to battle one, if really can’t defeat, then only Superion show up..
7. Bring more heavy duty vehicle as robot alternate mode like etc Submarine, Battleship, Space Shuttle.. Audience will like more if we could use different vehicle. Don’t always use car only…so boring…
8. Don’t use any decepticons spacecraft or mother ship like in TF3, its really not our taste, I meant they are transformers how come they are pilot in that? Just show few spacecraft that can transform to Decepticons like Tidal wave better, its not logic that transformers is a pilot, it really mess up whole movie…
9. Storyline makes it simple and don’t too exaggerate, I meant how come they can transfer cybertron to earth, that’s ridiculous…I think if the story just to makes revenge by calling all great warriors from cybertron is better…just a revenge story would be better than TF3 already…Or if really want a good storyline maybe we should ask idea from James Cameron then only hire someone great (not that Ehren Kruger lousy writer) to finish the screenplay…
10. Maybe we could bring in some heavy weight character in the upcoming sequals like etc Motormaster, Tidalwave, Omega Supreme, Bruticus, Superion, Astrotrain, Grimlock, Ultra Magnus, Thundercracker..
11. For making a good TF movie, my above mentioned element is must use…I knew that it could cost maybe around USD250-350Million budget and longer to make but why not? People just wanna have enough fun and eye candy for what they want to see, we can wait as long as the movie is good. Makes all audiences no complain with this full action packed TF movie…And I guarantee the box office will exceed the first 3 if really could achieve that.. Thanks…

[kwiknip]

Although I like all 3 TF movies I would certainly have to agree with "saberrider" & others whom asked for the actual robots from original Transformers lore. To see protoform fill ins just to sell the earth invasion idea is pretty weak, & an extremely valuable waste of screen time that could have been used to introduce real Transformers. I really pray that the powers that be can find it in their hearts to bring us true fans & new fans exactly what they've been holding out on in a TF4 movie. This is a franchise that will take multiple movies to give enough of the real characters their do respect. Honestly as much as I love watching the current trilogy I still feel gravely cheated because of this. Nobody in the Hollywood scenario could possibly realize what a positive effect it would have on the little people whom part ways with their hard earned money just to see a taste of what they've been dreaming of in an action saga such as Transformers. If they could only care enough to think Soap Opera Drama + Action/Battle sequences with Transformers, then viola problem solved for the next trilogy. In other words, people want the Transformers in the movie to f***king matter! Every scene with a human should have a Transformer present to keep the story focused on the Transformers. Just an observation.

[Trailbreaker]

Although I like all 3 TF movies I would certainly have to agree with "saberrider" & others whom asked for the actual robots from original Transformers lore. To see protoform fill ins just to sell the earth invasion idea is pretty weak, & an extremely valuable waste of screen time that could have been used to introduce real Transformers. I really pray that the powers that be can find it in their hearts to bring us true fans & new fans exactly what they've been holding out on in a TF4 movie. This is a franchise that will take multiple movies to give enough of the real characters their do respect. Honestly as much as I love watching the current trilogy I still feel gravely cheated because of this. Nobody in the Hollywood scenario could possibly realize what a positive effect it would have on the little people whom part ways with their hard earned money just to see a taste of what they've been dreaming of in an action saga such as Transformers. If they could only care enough to think Soap Opera Drama + Action/Battle sequences with Transformers, then viola problem solved for the next trilogy. In other words, people want the Transformers in the movie to f***king matter! Every scene with a human should have a Transformer present to keep the story focused on the Transformers. Just an observation.

Oh shit...my berserk button has been pushed again....

[megatron42]

Sentinel Prime was the only badass villian that was handle well unlike the fallen who was a complete shit villian, at least bay made a good villian.

shockwave was the villian not sentinel prime.. just a traitor leonard nemoy did a great job as SP
he sounded like galvatron in away the third was way better than the second more action
if thiers a fourth i have a feeling galvatron will appear i didn't like the dweller, shockwaves pet
i was hoping lazerbeak ejected like before mirage dino was funny so was Q