The Official DOTM Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

[Sonya]

That was something i thought was a bit strange... why was there a Shuttle attached to the Autobot ship?

In the movie, it mentioned something about wanting the autobots' ship to be under human control until in was off planet//left earth. (Not that a human shuttle could have controlled an alien ship if the autobots didn't want it to. I think it was a gesture of good faith on autobots' part.)

That was a great emotional scene ::even though I knew there was no way they'd kill them all off in one sweep like that::. Loved the score.

[SDL]

In the movie, it mentioned something about wanting the autobots' ship to be under human control until in was off planet//left earth. (Not that a human shuttle could have controlled an alien ship if the autobots didn't want it to. I think it was a gesture of good faith on autobots' part.)

That was a great emotional scene ::even though I knew there was no way they'd kill them all off in one sweep like that::. Loved the score.

I guess it also gave us Humans a way of going with the Autobots if needed

[Sonya]

Glad Dino survived. I liked him, actually I liked all the autobots this time. And a fair number of the Cons' LOL.

Which Con was the Mercedes-Benz SLS? Was it Soundwave? Cause I'm in love. Wow. That's one nice car.

Ironhide was my favourite Autobot and Soundwave was favourite Con.

Guess I'll be picking out a new autobot to cheer for. ::sighes::

Humm....The Wreckers are fun.

[swishbig]

It was pure gold! My hands were sweating throughout the whole film because I was so excited!

[swishbig]

also dylan, was a complete moron.. he was like one of the lamest bad dudes ever! the highlight of his stupidity was when he told carly about the pillars, and that the red one controls them all. why would any bad guy ever tell a hostage how the whole plan works? he basically just fucked himself. another stupid part was him pointing the gun at sam, and just talking shit. if you're going to point the gun at anyone, you better pull the trigger. idiot. he should have killed sam when he had the chance.. instead he kept talking trash "you choose sides, well you chose wrong.. blah blah.." sam was also knocked out for a bit, he could have bash his head in with a brick or somethin..
if i was him, i wouldnt stop soundwave from touching carly with the tenticles when she was in the car, would have let soundwave enjoy himself, then when sam was on the ground after spitting in my face, i would get a couple of kicks in at the very least.
also sam should have taken the shot when he had the chance, instead of shouting "where is she?" like a moron.
if your making a bad guy, make him bad to the bone. dylan was just retarded. if bay does do a TF4, call me i'll play the bad guy..

To be honest, if that happened. The movie would be shit...killing off Sam? LOL

[Trailbreaker]

Finally saw it again, and...as expected, the audience loved it.

[swishbig]

I need to go see it a 3rd time! Probably next week.

[Trailbreaker]

Apparently Abraham Lincoln is taller than Megatron, because when Megatron sits in his chair, his feet don't even touch the ground like Lincoln's did!

[CesarCardoso]

Apparently Abraham Lincoln is taller than Megatron, because when Megatron sits in his chair, his feet don't even touch the ground like Lincoln's did!

And i read somewhere that Igor is really longhaul's severed head. Can anyone confirm?

[Flyingheart]

I talked with people i watch DOTM with yesterday and my older brother and they said "it was silly that the Decepticons died really fast and Optimus fought with the Decepticons for a long time didnt get a scratch and Megs came and killed em instantly" and whatever... so a little bit negative but it was a fun movie they said.

[Flyingheart]

Ohh i forgot something..

they also said the scene where Shia gets popped out of Bumblebee on the highway in the air looked pretty fake she said.

I think it looked awesome and i wasnt looking for fakeness in the movie, if it looked to fake enough to me you would have heard it already on here.

[Trailbreaker]

And i read somewhere that Igor is really longhaul's severed head. Can anyone confirm?

Yep, it says so on TFwiki.

At first I thought he used to be a hatchling that didn't grow up quite right. I mean, those poor hatchlings aren't exactly in the best environment in the African plains.

[tizfx666]

Tomorrow I will go to see it for the third time!!!

[DK Prime]

Yes the SLS was Soundwave.

[Jelani14883]

Not sure if anyone brought this up, but did you guys notice Sideswipe was driving around the city with no driver or nothing. I mean couldn't he had made a holographic human or something like the Arcee twins did in RotF at the start of the movie. I mean it looked so weird lol.

[Daneimp]

Don't know if there's a thread for this, but could we start a signing collection in favor of an extended Blu-ray edition?

[IHeartBayhem]

Just came back from seeing it a 3rd time, this one was in 2D. Oh man, I'm loving this thing more and more.

Got to see more stuff that I didn't catch the last two times when I saw it in 3D.

[dnn]

it was silly that the Decepticons died really fast and Optimus fought with the Decepticons for a long time didnt get a scratch and Megs came and killed em instantly"

I agree. It was a little like the ending of ROTF in which the climatic battle gets stretched out over too long a time, so by the time you get to the real fight you want to see, they just have to wrap things up for the movie to end. Having Megatron intervene was the only twist, but it would have been better if all three of them were fighting simultaneously, rather than just have Megatron shoot Sentinel Prime, and then Optimus kill them one at a time.

[frolunda71]

This has probably already been covered by people, but can somebody clarify the time line of all three movies?

The Primes came to Earth sometime during the Stone Age to build a sun harvester.
Why?
If the Allspark was still on Cybertron, the Transformers wouldn't have had any reason to leave Cybertron to explore the Galaxy and therefore they couldn't have known that Earth existed in the first place.
And if the Allspark had already crashed here before the Primes came to Earth, why didn't they find it and bring it back to Cybertron?
So did Megs and Sentinel know that Earth existed before the Allspark was lost and therefore could make a deal to meet on Earth with Sentinels space port rods or what?

And how long did the Ark float in space after it was shot down when leaving Cybertron, when it crashed on the Moon 1961 and Megs crashed here already on 1800 something when he tracked the Allspark to Earth?

[Niven]

the one where he kills Hide, when he shoots him the first time, there is so clearly a scene missing from there which kinda makes that whole part of the film not flow properly. (i am assuming a twins scene should have been there.)

has anyone else noticed scenes that look like there is something missing

[Albershide]

This has probably already been covered by people, but can somebody clarify the time line of all three movies?

Every TF movie is made as a stand alone one. If they have shot all three movies together with one story to unite them then there wouldn't have been so many plot holes and continuity errors. I personally consider every movie as a different story not necessary connected with the previous one.

Here is a good attempt to put together a time line of the movies. It's impossible everything to fit perfectly but I don't think that was the idea at the first place.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Movie_timeline

[Albershide]

the one where he kills Hide, when he shoots him the first time, there is so clearly a scene missing from there which kinda makes that whole part of the film not flow properly. (i am assuming a twins scene should have been there.)

has anyone else noticed scenes that look like there is something missing

Yes, I've noticed this too. When Sentinel shots at Ironhide there is a quick cut of Bumblebee getting knocked down. As we know in the book one of the Twins tries to save Bumblebee and stands between him and Sentinel and gets shot. I guess that's when Bee got knocked down. Because if he was knocked down by the rust gun then there wouldn't be much left from him.

[Ironhide1977]

I went with mixed feelings to the film and came out with mixed feelings again. It was better than ROTF but still not a good movie.
The film had some good attempts and some great moments. But this stupid kind of humor almost ruined the film. There were scenes in the film when I was embarrassed.
Especially the scene at the end when Bumblebee was singing this wedding march.
John Malkovich´s part was also very distressing.
In my opinion there were to much plot holes. I think Ehren Kruger is not a good writer. There´s only one good script of him, Arlington Road. The rest? Crap!
Ironhide´s Death was senseless and unnecessary.
The End of the film? To abrupt and in the most true sense finally. Carly? Dispensable.
Sam´s search for work? Dispensable.
But maybe I should see it with the eyes of a child. As Jetfire would say: Maybe I´m to old for this shit.

[tizfx666]

I went with mixed feelings to the film and came out with mixed feelings again. It was better than ROTF but still not a good movie.
The film had some good attempts and some great moments. But this stupid kind of humor almost ruined the film. There were scenes in the film when I was embarrassed.
Especially the scene at the end when Bumblebee was singing this wedding march.
John Malkovich´s part was also very distressing.
In my opinion there were to much plot holes. I think Ehren Kruger is not a good writer. There´s only one good script of him, Arlington Road. The rest? Crap!
Ironhide´s Death was senseless and unnecessary.
The End of the film? To abrupt and in the most true sense finally. Carly? Dispensable.
Sam´s search for work? Dispensable.
But maybe I should see it with the eyes of a child. As Jetfire would say: Maybe I´m to old for this shit.

I agree about the incompetence of Ehren Kruger. Orci and Kurzman was better.
And I also agree about the humor thing. A lot of scenes, especially the Jeong's scenes, was really stupid.

But the rest of movie was great!!!

[Ironhide1977]

Indeed Orci an Kurtzman are great. Take a look at Fringe, Star Trek or Hawaii Five-O.
I don´t want to be arrogant or overbearing but when I was a 9 year old boy I wrote a Transformers-Story for school. It was more logical and it had less plotholes as the script of Ehren Kruger.

The Franchise had a lot of Potential. Very sad that is the unsatisfying End.
If will have the time, I will write a new Story esepcially for the the gernan languaged fans. I doubt that my english is goog enough to write the script for TF4 ;-)