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    Quote Originally Posted by Plague1980 View Post
    Que is an homage to Que from James Bond.
    Actually it was "Q" in James Bond Not "QUE" although i am surprised that the Estate of Ian Flemming is not suing for Trademark infringement...Considering its soo close to the actual name.... All this could have been avoided if they had simply kept the names.... and why would they want/need to change them. ITS A GOD DAMN MOVIE!!!!!

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    how about wheeljack a homage to transformers
    ITS A TRANSFORMERS MOVIE.... why does everyone need to be so damn uptight about a freaking name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Operationoverlord View Post
    Actually it was "Q" in James Bond Not "QUE" although i am surprised that the Estate of Ian Flemming is not suing for Trademark infringement...Considering its soo close to the actual name.... All this could have been avoided if they had simply kept the names.... and why would they want/need to change them. ITS A GOD DAMN MOVIE!!!!!



    ITS A TRANSFORMERS MOVIE.... why does everyone need to be so damn uptight about a freaking name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THUNDERWING View Post
    cant take a joke


    Not a joke.... when it comes to Continuity i get pretty mad. Because there is alot of things that are added or taken out or changed... When it comes to adaption's i prefer it to be as close to the source material as possible. It is also confusing when you read something and then find out that the movie has a completly different character name.....


    Oh and Nelson... Dino is not a Famous person.... Anyone outside of Italy would not know who the hell it is.... so way to deceive us.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Operationoverlord View Post
    Not a joke.... when it comes to Continuity i get pretty mad. Because there is alot of things that are added or taken out or changed... When it comes to adaption's i prefer it to be as close to the source material as possible. It is also confusing when you read something and then find out that the movie has a completly different character name.....


    Oh and Nelson... Dino is not a Famous person.... Anyone outside of Italy would not know who the hell it is.... so way to deceive us.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Operationoverlord View Post

    Oh and Nelson... Dino is not a Famous person.... Anyone outside of Italy would not know who the hell it is.... so way to deceive us.....

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    So fame is only fame if it's in the US? There are tracks, streets, and stadiums named after Dino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    He said famous Italian. That could mean he's famous in Italy.

    You have to be kidding me..... this movie is an american made movie based upon a 1980's Japanese Cartoon... nothing Italian about it...... not to mention i am getting pretty tired of these "Humanized" names that they have been giving the bots. And the Italian draws the line....
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    Oh by the way, I've made a conclusion that those who say this is all part of some "misinformation campaign" simply don't like what they hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson View Post
    So fame is only fame if it's in the US? There are tracks, streets, and stadiums named after Dino.
    Nelson.... think about it... ITs a movie made with american actors' Save Rosie... And good for him i am just saying that its a bit stupid to say "hes a famous Italian" and everyone thinks about all these people then outta no where comes "dino" which sounds like someone just dropped the ball on everything....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    Oh by the way, I've made a conclusion that those who say this is all part of some "misinformation campaign" simply don't like what they hear.
    Bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    Oh by the way, I've made a conclusion that those who say this is all part of some "misinformation campaign" simply don't like what they hear.
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    Bingo.
    I have one simple question. Was there a misinformation campaign for ROTF?

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    I have one simple question. Was there a misinformation campaign for ROTF?
    You mean Bay saying Megatron was not in it?

    If you're trying to equate a major plot point with a name of a secondary character, I'd like to read your reasoning and logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    Oh by the way, I've made a conclusion that those who say this is all part of some "misinformation campaign" simply don't like what they hear.

    To be honest I don't like what I hear either lol. Those names make me cringe.

    But I don't wanna waste my time with conspiracy theories. It is pretty entertaining to read though...gives a good laugh.

    With that said...there is only 23 days to the movie... why can't people just sit back and wait?? It's amazing how heated up some people are over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    Oh by the way, I've made a conclusion that those who say this is all part of some "misinformation campaign" simply don't like what they hear.
    You know a lot of people are going to voice their opinions on things they hear that they dont like. It happens in most movies, its part of life. But again, I can see why they would have to or want to change or give the Ferrari another name than the Mirage name we have all seen attached to the car but their is really no reason and or need to change and or give the blue Benz a new or different name. As for the Ferrari, I know Nelson says they will call it Dino as an Homage but in all honesty that name just sucks for a TF. I myself would have rather it be Enzo but thats me. Back to the Blue Benz and other things. Bay himself said from the start that he was going to lie about everything and put so much misinformation out on this movie that no one would know what was true. Not his exact words but you get the drift. Even way early on when my brother questioned about the stunt driver in all black seen driving the SLS that we only see when a vehicle will become a robot in the movie and what did we all get on that? Nelson said he was just transporting the car. I myself was on 7 different sets while Bay was filming and not once did I see any stunt drivers dressed in all black from head to toe transport any of the cars around anywhere. I even seen a normal dressed crew person driving the SLS from the trailer to set a few times. we have seen so much suggesting that the SLS is indeed a tf yet both Nelson and Bay both say is still just a car. Sounds like misinformation to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Operationoverlord View Post
    Nelson.... think about it... ITs a movie made with american actors' Save Rosie... And good for him i am just saying that its a bit stupid to say "hes a famous Italian" and everyone thinks about all these people then outta no where comes "dino" which sounds like someone just dropped the ball on everything....
    Yeah but the movie is made for everyone around the world, and I think that you are one of the few who doesn't know who Dino Ferrari is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plague1980 View Post
    You know a lot of people are going to voice their opinions on things they hear that they dont like. It happens in most movies, its part of life. But again, I can see why they would have to or want to change or give the Ferrari another name than the Mirage name we have all seen attached to the car but their is really no reason and or need to change and or give the blue Benz a new or different name. As for the Ferrari, I know Nelson says they will call it Dino as an Homage but in all honesty that name just sucks for a TF. I myself would have rather it be Enzo but thats me. Back to the Blue Benz and other things. Bay himself said from the start that he was going to lie about everything and put so much misinformation out on this movie that no one would know what was true. Not his exact words but you get the drift. Even way early on when my brother questioned about the stunt driver in all black seen driving the SLS that we only see when a vehicle will become a robot in the movie and what did we all get on that? Nelson said he was just transporting the car. I myself was on 7 different sets while Bay was filming and not once did I see any stunt drivers dressed in all black from head to toe transport any of the cars around anywhere. I even seen a normal dressed crew person driving the SLS from the trailer to set a few times. we have seen so much suggesting that the SLS is indeed a tf yet both Nelson and Bay both say is still just a car. Sounds like misinformation to me.
    Did you saw the Vector Nigma Database from the transformers site Soundwave's Alternate mode was the SLS ,and i think they spoiled so they removed it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunes227 View Post
    Yeah but the movie is made for everyone around the world, and I think that you are one of the few who doesn't know who Dino Ferrari is
    I honestly think more people won't know who Dino Ferrari is compared to how many do know who he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Kings View Post
    I honestly think more people won't know who Dino Ferrari is compared to how many do know who he is.
    the thing is sure car lovers will and most Italians will but most of the world will not nor will care who he is. its just a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plague1980 View Post
    the thing is sure car lovers will and most Italians will but most of the world will not nor will care who he is. its just a fact.
    But they will care if he's not named Mirage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson View Post
    But they will care if he's not named Mirage?
    probably not and I was just stating a point. Either way there will be people that dont care what its name is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson View Post
    But they will care if he's not named Mirage?
    Exactly i think that there are more people in the world that know Dino Ferrari but don't know Mirage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson View Post
    You mean Bay saying Megatron was not in it?

    If you're trying to equate a major plot point with a name of a secondary character, I'd like to read your reasoning and logic.
    Yep, that's what I'm talking about.
    But hear this (beware people that there might be spoilers) - a few months ago I was the greatest supporter of Michael and you and I believed every single word you said here about DOTM. Until there was suddenly a misinformation campaign about something that I won't mention but it happened and I was really surprised. And I know for sure that was misinformation because I have a friend who is doing the animation of a certain character in the movie and we were discussing this recently. By the way this is one of the few spoilers that I know for the movie.
    So the misinformation about Megatron and now the misinformation that I won't mention really sowed the seeds of doubt that there might be more. It's normal, but that doesn't mean that now I'm questioning everything, not at all. I just question some of the stuff that sound strange to me. And that's where the names saga come into play. But actually it's really not important for me. Just I'm pissed that some people here accept everything without using their heads. There was misinformation campaign there is misinformation campaign so nothing is 100% certain.
    Now the clarification part - I love the misinformation campaign. This is the best thing that could happen to a movie and I really have a great admire to a filmmaker who is doing this because he is doing it just and only for the fans. Thank you Mr. Bay.
    So no matter if the Ferrari is Ennio Morricone or Mirage, still the movie will be great. I just want the people here to be open minded and not to bash the person next to you just without a reason.

    By the way Nelson I have one question. Most of the time we get some spoilers from you in some random threads and you get us by surprise. Now why these two characters needed two separate official threads knowing that this is very controversial topic. Were these threads your idea or Michael's. Is it possible that these threads are just to see the people's opinions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albershide View Post
    Yep, that's what I'm talking about.
    But hear this (beware people that there might be spoilers) - a few months ago I was the greatest supporter of Michael and you and I believed every single word you said here about DOTM. Until there was suddenly a misinformation campaign about something that I won't mention but it happened and I was really surprised. And I know for sure that was misinformation because I have a friend who is doing the animation of a certain character in the movie and we were discussing this recently. By the way this is one of the few spoilers that I know for the movie.
    So the misinformation about Megatron and now the misinformation that I won't mention really sowed the seeds of doubt that there might be more. It's normal, but that doesn't mean that now I'm questioning everything, not at all. I just question some of the stuff that sound strange to me. And that's where the names saga come into play. But actually it's really not important for me. Just I'm pissed that some people here accept everything without using their heads. There was misinformation campaign there is misinformation campaign so nothing is 100% certain.
    Now the clarification part - I love the misinformation campaign. This is the best thing that could happen to a movie and I really have a great admire to a filmmaker who is doing this because he is doing it just and only for the fans. Thank you Mr. Bay.
    So no matter if the Ferrari is Ennio Morricone or Mirage, still the movie will be great. I just want the people here to be open minded and not to bash the person next to you just without a reason.

    By the way Nelson I have one question. Most of the time we get some spoilers from you in some random threads and you get us by surprise. Now why these two characters needed two separate official threads knowing that this is very controversial topic. Were these threads your idea or Michael's. Is it possible that these threads are just to see the people's opinions?

    I hope that I make sense and people would understand me.
    Please answer my first question with reasoning and logic and not some anecdote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plague1980 View Post
    probably not and I was just stating a point. Either way there will be people that dont care what its name is.
    You mean the the 99.9% of the world's population that aren't die-hard Transformers fans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson View Post
    Please answer my first question with reasoning and logic and not some anecdote.
    Which question?

    If you mean this:
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    You mean Bay saying Megatron was not in it?
    my first sentence was the answer to it.

    And which part of my post is an anecdote to you?

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    because I have a friend who is doing the animation of a certain character in the movie and we were discussing this recently.
    This.

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