How long have the Autobots been on or at least near Earth?

[Shadow]

With everything we are Seeing in TFs DotM and scenes of the 60's some are questioning when exactly did the Autobots first come to Earth Searching for the AllSpark. Was it in 2007 when the first movie took place? No. Was it in the 60's and they have been hiding and waiting for the right time to come to Earth? Maybe. But one thing is for sure... they have been watching Earth and looking for the AllSpark for at least 4 years, probably longer before we and Sam first see them in 2007. Do you guys remember the first tv spot for the first Transformers? The Beagle 2 Mars probe landed on Mars in 2003 where it was crushed by Bumblebee. The launch of this mission was before 2003 as it took much time for the probe to make it to Mars so... the Autobots could have been on Mars or around Mars for some time before that.

[Shadow]

here is the tv spot...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rGOF2_42fM

[Z/28]

In the the first movie, they say that carbon dating puts the cube here on Earth around 10000 BC. They also say that megatron was found frozen in the arctic by Archibald Witwicky in 1897. Then in ROTF it shows pictures of Seekers disquised as a Model T Ford in the early 1900s. Also the hieroglyphics in egypt, as well as the opening scene in ROTF with early man. Which puts it again around 10000 BC.

[rocketrichard78]

With everything we are Seeing in TFs DotM and scenes of the 60's some are questioning when exactly did the Autobots first come to Earth Searching for the AllSpark. Was it in 2007 when the first movie took place? No. Was it in the 60's and they have been hiding and waiting for the right time to come to Earth? Maybe. But one thing is for sure... they have been watching Earth and looking for the AllSpark for at least 4 years, probably longer before we and Sam first see them in 2007. Do you guys remember the first tv spot for the first Transformers? The Beagle 2 Mars probe landed on Mars in 2003 where it was crushed by Bumblebee. The launch of this mission was before 2003 as it took much time for the probe to make it to Mars so... the Autobots could have been on Mars or around Mars for some time before that.

Are we sure that BB was the bot who crushed the rover ? I have always assumed that it was a d-con. This drew the d-cons to earth because of the very similar technology. What bothers me is that it seems our Autobots have no apparent tie to there pasts. OP had no knowledge of the fallen or of the so called seekers. Jetfire had no knowledge of OP and was in awe of the fact he was in the presence of a descendant of the Primes. What I am getting at is we have a vast time lapse between Seekers time frame and the OP time frame. This means many Autobots may have called earth home and OP and the team have no knowledge of it.

[Albershide]

I believe the answers to your questions are in the beginning of the first two movies. From ROTF we understand that "our worlds had met before" in 17 000 BC. So this is the first encounter between the two races. But they're just an ancestors of both races so they have nothing to do with the modern day TFs and humans. The first encounter in modern day is when Sam's grandfather finds Megatron beneath the ice in 1897. But when does exactly Bumblebee and the other Decepticons arrive is unclear. We know from ROTF that there are seekers scattered around the US (strange that there are none in the rest of the world) and as Z/28 said their alt modes suggest that they are there from the beginning of 1900s. I believe that the idea of the first movie was that Bumblebee arrived soon before Blackout's attack. And by the way the robot that destroyed the Mars probe was not meant to be Bumblebee in the movieverse. It was supposed to be a Decepticon with a similar structure as Blackout. It's not in the nature of the Autobots to just destroy things. I believe that Shadow is referring to a comic where it was stated that Bumblebee destroyed the probe but when we speak about the movieverse we must ignore everything else (comic books, novels) because it has nothing to do with the director's vision of the movie. They're just somebody else's creations and rarely when you combine all of them they will result in a product that makes sense.

[rocketrichard78]

I believe the answers to your questions are in the beginning of the first two movies. From ROTF we understand that "our worlds had met before" in 17 000 BC. So this is the first encounter between the two races. But they're just an ancestors of both races so they have nothing to do with the modern day TFs and humans. The first encounter in modern day is when Sam's grandfather finds Megatron beneath the ice in 1897. But when does exactly Bumblebee and the other Decepticons arrive is unclear. We know from ROTF that there are seekers scattered around the US (strange that there are none in the rest of the world) and as Z/28 said their alt modes suggest that they are there from the beginning of 1900s. I believe that the idea of the first movie was that Bumblebee arrived soon before Blackout's attack. And by the way the robot that destroyed the Mars probe was not meant to be Bumblebee in the movieverse. It was supposed to be a Decepticon with a similar structure as Blackout. It's not in the nature of the Autobots to just destroy things. I believe that Shadow is referring to a comic where it was stated that Bumblebee destroyed the probe but when we speak about the movieverse we must ignore everything else (comic books, novels) because it has nothing to do with the director's vision of the movie. They're just somebody else's creations and rarely when you combine all of them they will result in a product that makes sense.

You bring up a interesting point that we only see seekers in the USA. I think that the Russian aspect of this movie will prove that they not only landed in the US but maybe in Russia. My theory

[DK Prime]

You bring up a interesting point that we only see seekers in the USA. I think that the Russian aspect of this movie will prove that they not only landed in the US but maybe in Russia. My theory

Sorry guys..but the question was..how long have the AUTOBOTS been on Earth..or near Which I have abosolutely no idea about, just seem you guys thought it was Transformers in general

[DK Prime]

Are we sure that BB was the bot who crushed the rover ? I have always assumed that it was a d-con. This drew the d-cons to earth because of the very similar technology. What bothers me is that it seems our Autobots have no apparent tie to there pasts. OP had no knowledge of the fallen or of the so called seekers. Jetfire had no knowledge of OP and was in awe of the fact he was in the presence of a descendant of the Primes. What I am getting at is we have a vast time lapse between Seekers time frame and the OP time frame. This means many Autobots may have called earth home and OP and the team have no knowledge of it.

In the first movie when Banacheck shows SOD Keller the video from Mars I would say it is definately Bumblebee you see. Looks like him at least.

[Shadow]

Sorry guys..but the question was..how long have the AUTOBOTS been on Earth..or near Which I have abosolutely no idea about, just seem you guys thought it was Transformers in general

Yes I was talking about our Autobots... Not the Decepticons or any other TFs, Seekers and others.

In the first movie when Banacheck shows SOD Keller the video from Mars I would say it is definately Bumblebee you see. Looks like him at least.

In the comics to the movie as well, it shows that it was BB who crushed the rover.


As for everyone else above... When the first 13 were created, Megatron, OP and the others were not even created yet so those like OP wouldnt know who The Fallen was or of any of that history as they predate the modern TFs. Also Seekers (not seekers as in Starscream) but true Seekers that have the ability to open personal Space Bridges like Jetfire would not know OP and even Megatron as the true Seekers also came before OPs and Megatron's time. In the new Sector 7 comics Jetfire even stumbles across Megatron as the first 7 are bringing him up from the Ice and Jetfire sees Megs has a Decepticon symbol on him but does not know who Megatron is. He has never met Megatron until that moment on Earth.

[eagc7]

Are we sure that BB was the bot who crushed the rover ? I have always assumed that it was a d-con. This drew the d-cons to earth because of the very similar technology. What bothers me is that it seems our Autobots have no apparent tie to there pasts. OP had no knowledge of the fallen or of the so called seekers. Jetfire had no knowledge of OP and was in awe of the fact he was in the presence of a descendant of the Primes. What I am getting at is we have a vast time lapse between Seekers time frame and the OP time frame. This means many Autobots may have called earth home and OP and the team have no knowledge of it.

In the first movie when Banacheck shows SOD Keller the video from Mars I would say it is definately Bumblebee you see. Looks like him at least.

According to the comics it was an con.

[Shadow]

According to the comics it was an con.

The comics dont really count as one set of comics say it was a con and another says it was BB.

[megatron42]

they've been around since the 1800 or less

[Shadow]

they've been around since the 1800 or less

Some TFs yes... but Im talking about the Autobots from the first movie! Im not talking about Megatron or the Decpeticons or even the Seekers. This thread was started to mess around with the idea that OP, Ratchet, Jazz, BB, Ironhide and maybe even the Ark and any other Autobots that may still be on it in stasis have or may have been watching Earth from maybe the Moon or Mars or somewhere else close for some time before 2007 of the first movie. So lets get this thread back on track and talk about this

[HarryCanyon]

They've been around since the Egyptian days.

[chatterbox]

is that in human years? or autobot years? got to set the rules straight

[Shadow]

is that in human years? or autobot years? got to set the rules straight

lol Chatter... you know what i mean. HUMAN YEARS.

[phoenixgirl]

The comics dont really count as one set of comics say it was a con and another says it was BB.

Except both the movie prequel and the Reign of Starscream show it was a decepticon who crushed the rover.
It doesn't matter anyway. As more details leak out, will get a better idea what is going on.

[jimboslo]

If we also use the info from the wider movieverse (comics etc) then some autobots, decepticons and neutral (some seekers) have been on earth for a very long time. In some cases thousands of years. either 'sleeping' or taking on the mechanical forms appropropriate for the time. Some cons led by starscream were on mars in 2003 or so and it was they who destroyed the rover in the footage. The nemesis as its called in the comics but not in ROTF crashed landed or is being repaired slowly while a con strike team heads to earth. Bumblee was on earth before starscream and was following leads he downloaded from the internet related to the allspark and the witwickys, obviously took longer as humans called it a cube and megatron was iceman etc.

How long the bots were near earth is a good question as many were scattered accross the galaxy and planet hopping as they didnt all have access to space bridges. Probably a few years in the solar system regrouping and waiting for bumbleebee if they were awhere of him to contact them.

[sideswipeyoass]

when you say seekers the first thing that pops into mind is "starscream and the jets" lol not jetfire and old tfs

[Z/28]

In my guess, and maybe this will be addressed in the TF3. BB has been on Earth for some time now, both as a seeker looking for the allspark and watching over Sam.
In TF1, BB signals to the autobots in that railroad yard. The next day they arrive, so Im guessing they were on the Moon, Mars or somewhere in the Solar System waiting.

[ChadWPalm]

In the first movie when Banacheck shows SOD Keller the video from Mars I would say it is definately Bumblebee you see. Looks like him at least.

Wouldn't BB at that time still be in his protoform? And we clearly see from the arrival scene that their protoform robot forms look nothing like their scanned earth robot forms, so that really wouldn't make sense.

[Kamrud]

They sent BB down to locate Sam, then the others came! BB was the first on to ever come to earth, around 2006/2007.

[DK Prime]

They sent BB down to locate Sam, then the others came! BB was the first on to ever come to earth, around 2006/2007.

I think Bumblebee have been on Earth much longer. But not sure.

[jimboslo]

BumbleBee wasent awhere of Sam until just before T1, he was following thin leeds related to the cube and iceman. Eventualy tracking down any one with the surname Witwicky and narrowing it down from their. Once he was awhere of Sam being given his Great Grandfathers glasses etc and what they contained he made his move.