More info on the fire truck.

[J1000]

Exactly, it's kind of like looking for meaning behind the license plate number.

Yeah, that would never happen.. /sarcasm

In Matrix Reloaded, when Agent smith pulls up to the warehouse where the ship captains are meeting, his Audi has the license plate "IS 5416". In the Bible, Isaiah 54:16 reads as follows (from the King James Version): "Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy." In another version, it's simply "Behold, I am the Smith, who cometh to destroy". Just one example. Not that DoTM is going to be as deep as the Matrix movies or anything, just pointing out that it's not as silly as you suggest.

[Hotwire]

or it could be the bible verse 3:16:

"For in this way God loved the world: that he gave the unique son, so that all the ones trusting in him would not perish, but have eternal life."

just putting it out there

Could be Genesis 3:16...
“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”

Or maybe Revelation 3:16
"So, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I am about to spit you out of my mouth"

Just throwing that out there.

[Shadow]

could be genesis 3:16...
“i will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”

or maybe revelation 3:16
"so, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--i am about to spit you out of my mouth"

just throwing that out there.

lmao!!

[the_almighty_moo]

I just realised how little i know of the bible.

good god, im going to hell o.O

[Kamrud]

I just realised how little i know of the bible.

good god, im going to hell o.O

same >.<

[T. Van Dyke]

@ Moo
@ J1000

Thank you both for bringing clarity to this discussion. As it's not unusual for Hollywood productions to use Biblical symbolism or references, it'll be interesting to see whether that's what's in play in this instance.


@ Kamrud

Your acknowledgement is appreciated, and a welcome contrast to those who might mask their lack of awareness through "antics" such as mocking Christianity with supposed knee slappers.

[Shockwave69]

to be honest, i would rather have the fire truck be ultra magnus then sentinel prime, it just makes more sense, optimus is the last of the primes and ultra magnus is the leader of the wreckers

[Shadow]

to be honest, i would rather have the fire truck be ultra magnus then sentinel prime, it just makes more sense, optimus is the last of the primes and ultra magnus is the leader of the wreckers

yes this.

[Shadow]

I just want to see OP and the fire truck combine to form Super fire convoy

[Battlebot]

I agree with you most of the time Shadow, but on this one I have to disagree. I I don't want to see Prime merge with anything but his trailer. He is a great stand alone character. I don't think he needs to combine with anyone.

[Shadow]

I agree with you most of the time Shadow, but on this one I have to disagree. I I don't want to see Prime merge with anything but his trailer. He is a great stand alone character. I don't think he needs to combine with anyone.

you are 100% right but if he was to combine with another bot, id have to say it may very well be the fire truck. And I say this only from looking at it from a Hasbro combining toy like we seen with OP and Jetfire. It made Hasbro money as eveyone had to have the two leader class toys just to combine them. I already know we will get a new leader class OP and I know the fire truck will be a leader class as well. So it is very possible that it may happen in the movie.

[Hotwire]

@ Moo
@ J1000

Thank you both for bringing clarity to this discussion. As it's not unusual for Hollywood productions to use Biblical symbolism or references, it'll be interesting to see whether that's what's in play in this instance.


@ Kamrud

Your acknowledgement is appreciated, and a welcome contrast to those who might mask their lack of awareness through "antics" such as mocking Christianity with supposed knee slappers.

I wasn't mocking Christianity. You may have noticed that one of the 3:16 verses I quoted is in The Old Testament. I'm also not trying to mask a lack of awareness of anything. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous some people sound when they try to find meaning behind EVERYTHING seen in a movie.

[Wolfblade]

I wasn't mocking Christianity. You may have noticed that one of the 3:16 verses I quoted is in The Old Testament. I'm also not trying to mask a lack of awareness of anything. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous some people sound when they try to find meaning behind EVERYTHING seen in a movie.

Watch. The. Matrix. AND pay attention.

[Kamrud]

I'm going to watch the Matrix all over again, but back to the truck: It looks awesome.

[Sam Nickelson]

I think you are right about the other Seeker's location. One was in Texas as well... maybe Houston?

i dont remember where but i heard the seeker in chicago was an old model t. there was some concept art for it earlier. kinda resembles wheeljack. could he be the seeker and he reformats to fit in? Maybe well all the bayhem starts hes called in by prime. or wheelie reminds them?

[Sam Nickelson]

you are 100% right but if he was to combine with another bot, id have to say it may very well be the fire truck. And I say this only from looking at it from a Hasbro combining toy like we seen with OP and Jetfire. It made Hasbro money as eveyone had to have the two leader class toys just to combine them. I already know we will get a new leader class OP and I know the fire truck will be a leader class as well. So it is very possible that it may happen in the movie.

no brainer that the firetruck will be a leader. its big(er) than prime. I cant see prime combining either from a character point but ya if your in it for hasbros money duh. I still got money on ultra magnus. just a...funny feeling.

[Shadow]

i dont remember where but i heard the seeker in chicago was an old model t. there was some concept art for it earlier. kinda resembles wheeljack. could he be the seeker and he reformats to fit in? Maybe well all the bayhem starts hes called in by prime. or wheelie reminds them?

I could see that happening

no brainer that the firetruck will be a leader. its big(er) than prime. I cant see prime combining either from a character point but ya if your in it for hasbros money duh. I still got money on ultra magnus. just a...funny feeling.

same here

[Shockwave69]

yes this.

well, it depends if the nascars are the wreckers, if they are, then i hope the fire truck is ultra magnus, if they are just human vehicles, then sentinel prime would be good, but, that one line in rotf, just makes sentinel so, not possible

[Sam Nickelson]

OK, whatever, dude. Keep insisting that they mean something. While we're at it, I'm certain the giant "E4" on the side of Ratchet means something, too. There are also numbers on the side of the armored truck, those are probably some secret reference to something as well.

:sigh:

the E7 in nest hq and Hoover dam in the first two are the production code for the tf movies. Chicago had e7 cubed everywhere.

[nelson]

the E7 in nest hq and Hoover dam in the first two are the production code for the tf movies. Chicago had e7 cubed everywhere.

E73 was the working title for Transformers Dark Of The Moon.

[Shadow]

the E7 in nest hq and Hoover dam in the first two are the production code for the tf movies. Chicago had e7 cubed everywhere.

Not sure about the E7 thing but this from hotwire...While we're at it, I'm certain the giant "E4" on the side of Ratchet means something. He is right, the E4 does mean something lol. Its the company engine number. All Firehouse fire trucks and their first responder units have E-and a number on them.

[NIBMRatchet]

From what I know...

E73 is the project title for Transformers: Dark of the Moon (E7, E72 and E73 respectively represents Transformers 2007, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and DOTM Project Code Names. Am I right Nelson? )

E4 on Ratchet is I believe the Area Code which an Ambulance/Police Unit/Fire Truck etc. must operate/stay on duty/serve in real life. It's called a "Call Sign". More info : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_sign But I could be wrong.

[NIBMRatchet]

From what I know...

E73 is the project title for Transformers: Dark of the Moon (E7, E72 and E73 respectively represents Transformers 2007, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and DOTM Project Code Names. Am I right Nelson? )

E4 on Ratchet is I believe the Area Code which an Ambulance/Police Unit/Fire Truck etc. must operate/stay on duty/serve in real life. It's called a "Call Sign". More info : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_sign But I could be wrong.

My bad... Wrong Wikipedia article... It's not called a Call Sign... (I just woke up... Still sleepy).
I guess they call it an Area Code.

[Flyingheart]

Wouw did you see that burned off rubber from the blue truck? He must have really hit the breaks really hard :P must have been cool and gonna be cool in the movie probably :P cant waitto see that scene with the blue truck :P

[Shadow]

Wouw did you see that burned off rubber from the blue truck? He must have really hit the breaks really hard :P must have been cool and gonna be cool in the movie probably :P cant waitto see that scene with the blue truck :P

did you know that right after that scene, the blue truck went to the scrap yard?