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    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/hero...omboompow.html


    Imagine Demolisher and Optimus Prime wreaking havoc on the Earth as they battle -- but doing it in complete silence.
    Not very thrilling, huh? The hunky pieces of metal in the "Transformers" films lose a lot of their thunderous power without all that sound. It's the clinks and whooshes and BOOMS caused by the massive appliances that complete the larger-than-life experience of the films.
    Director Michael Bay recently joined sound re-recording mixers Greg P. Russell and Gary Summers, and supervising sound editors Ethan Van Der Ryn and Erik Aadahl to discuss the sound art (and science) of "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" at the Cary Grant Theatre on the Sony Pictures lot.
    “I have like 2,000 people — through their artistry — making my dreams a film,” Bay said. “The artistry of this sound group is just amazing. I love, love sound. It’s 45-50% of the movies.”
    It’s a welcomed percentage. The acting by Megan Fox and Shia LaBeouf may not stir the soul of Academy voters, but the franchise's high-quality sound performance has made up for that. The first "Transformers" film was nominated for three Academy Awards in 2008 in the categories of sound editing, sound mixing and visual effects.
    “All of our sounds are performing almost like actors,” said Aadahl, whom Bay described as the “secret weapon” of the films. “They’re just performing the scene through sound.”

    From explosions and car chases to clinking metal and pounding footsteps, every piece of sound is carefully produced. “It’s like," Russell said, "painting with sound.”
    Aadahl continued the thought: “It just takes a lot of playing around with different elements. With sound, we are completely unfettered by the laws of physics.”
    And with a film bursting with auditory bombast, a mellow scene can be a welcome challenge. Take the Reedman scene from the second installment of the franchise. After Soundwave finds out the location of the All Spark fragment needed to revive Megatron, Ravage was dispatched to the island of Diego Garcia, where the human-autobot alliance NEST was stationed, to recover the shard. The shadowy robot infiltrated the base with microcons, a swarm of ball bearings. Thousands of the tiny spheres combined to form Reedman, a mantis-like figure.
    It was a scene meant to “cleanse the palate” from the booming sound featured throughout most of the film. The volume was turned down to enhance the sound created by the energy sparks. So where did the inspiration for the muted, vibrating zing of the microcons come from? A couple of magnets. Spread an inch apart and tossed in the air, they meet to create a quivering sound that -- when amplified by a microphone -- resembles the chattering of insects.
    “It’s all about thinking ‘How can we take organic things in the real world and twist them around to give them a synthetic edge?’ ” Van der Ryn said.

    Many times, the thunderous sounds heard in the theater aren’t synthetically produced. Sometimes everyday household fare (when magnified) can serve as the source. Aadahl said the vibrating hum from his electrical shaver resembled an bug buzz — perfect for a tiny Decepticon scout. The creak from opening the stove door? That served as the central sound for an older (more rusty) Decepticon. And a slamming dryer door was used as the thud for Devastator’s footsteps -- proving that that it doesn’t always take a large element to produce a big sound.
    “Those huge things seem small in comparison to the small things,” Aadahl said. “We find the macro in the micro.”
    So can we expect more thunderous sound in the third installment? Although the number of robots increased significantly from the first film for the second, the third film -- which will hit theaters this summer, won’t be as robot-heavy and there will be fewer explosions, a tight-lipped Bay said after the Q+A.
    “There will be a nice crescendo ending,” Bay said. “It gets much more into the robot character. The last time you kind of met a few of the robots; this time you’re gonna get a much cooler landscape.”
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    According to this article:

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/hero...omboompow.html


    So I wonder if he means less robot screen time. I hope not, I don't want to see the Sam Witwicky story, featuring Optimus Prime.

    Or does he mean less robots in total, avoiding that confusing debacle of an ending that was ROTF. If that's the case what is the perfect number of robots for the film?

    My pick - 28 give or take.

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    Highly looking forward to the "crescendo ending". I wish it would never end, though.

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    So can we expect more thunderous sound in the third installment? Although the number of robots increased significantly from the first film for the second, the third film ...won’t be as robot-heavy and there will be fewer explosions, a tight-lipped Bay said after the Q+A.

    “There will be a nice crescendo ending,” Bay said. “It gets much more into the robot character. The last time you kind of met a few of the robots; this time you’re gonna get a much cooler landscape.”
    sounds legit

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigBad View Post
    According to this article:

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/hero...omboompow.html


    So I wonder if he means less robot screen time. I hope not, I don't want to see the Sam Witwicky story, featuring Optimus Prime.

    Or does he mean less robots in total, avoiding that confusing debacle of an ending that was ROTF. If that's the case what is the perfect number of robots for the film?

    My pick - 28 give or take.

    According to the front page, an article quotes Bay "that it will get more into the robot character" which hints at it.


    Quote Originally Posted by g1bumblebee View Post
    sounds legit
    "this time you’re gonna get a much cooler landscape."
    Hmm, is Bay implying Cybertron? He gave alot of praise to Avatar, so maybe he feels inspired to have a world showing off CGI. One can only hope!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpicBacons View Post
    Hmm, is Bay implying Cybertron? He gave alot of praise to Avatar, so maybe he feels inspired to have a world showing off CGI. One can only hope!
    I certainly hope so. I watched Star Trek last night and I thought, wow TF3 can do this. And as you said using inspiration from Avatar they can create Cybertron.
    Smokescreen: "You're our only hope Omega." Omega Supreme: "Failure: Impossible" - G1 Episode #41 "The Golden Lagoon"

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    Default Re: Less Robots, More Character?

    if they choose to do Cybertron, they will pull it off... NO QUESTION... they just gotta give themselves time to perfect it!

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    I'm still "meh" on Cybertron, if they pull it off I might like it, idk yet.

    It sounds like it'll be good, crescendo ending, more robot development.
    Optimus Prime: "What if we leave, and your wrong?"

    Just one of the few great quotes from ROTF

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    Default Re: MB interview LA times - less tfs less explosions

    I kinda interpreted this as.. less to no new robot characters..but developing the current cast of them.

    I am just trying to patiently wait till 2011 and hoping to be pleasantly surprised and entertained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morethanmeetstheeye View Post
    I'm still "meh" on Cybertron, if they pull it off I might like it, idk yet.

    It sounds like it'll be good, crescendo ending, more robot development.
    My thing is, Transformers are from Cybertron. They always speak of the war torn planet why not show it for a length of time.
    Smokescreen: "You're our only hope Omega." Omega Supreme: "Failure: Impossible" - G1 Episode #41 "The Golden Lagoon"

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    uhmmm i dont know if this is good or bad lol i guess we will have to wait and see how it ends up..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG Tee View Post
    My thing is, Transformers are from Cybertron. They always speak of the war torn planet why not show it for a length of time.
    Yeah, there is so much to show visually about Cybertron, especially the casual viewers who know nothing about Transformers. Besides, what is so great about having Earth as a setting when we already know all about it and we know of the locations around Earth? I want to hear their story, their sorrow and Prime's quest to right wrongs of their, and letting humanity be doomed because of Prime's trust in Megatron before war broke out.

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    Default Re: MB interview LA times - less tfs less explosions

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG Tee View Post
    My thing is, Transformers are from Cybertron. They always speak of the war torn planet why not show it for a length of time.
    I know that, and I know what you mean. All I'm saying is that I hope they are mostly flashbacks, and they don't actually travel there...
    Optimus Prime: "What if we leave, and your wrong?"

    Just one of the few great quotes from ROTF

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG Tee View Post
    I certainly hope so. I watched Star Trek last night and I thought, wow TF3 can do this. And as you said using inspiration from Avatar they can create Cybertron.
    Yes i 100% agree with u
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    Default Re: Less Robots, More Character?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigBad View Post
    According to this article:

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/hero...omboompow.html


    So I wonder if he means less robot screen time. I hope not, I don't want to see the Sam Witwicky story, featuring Optimus Prime.

    Or does he mean less robots in total, avoiding that confusing debacle of an ending that was ROTF. If that's the case what is the perfect number of robots for the film?

    My pick - 28 give or take.
    I agree the ending for ROTF was quite poor as was the ending for the first movie however i really do hope michael bay does indeed concentrate on the transformers storyline rather than alot of explosions and i would love to see more of sam's and bumble bee's relationship develop that would definetly be an interesting storyline. And im hoping michael bay also introduces more robots not to many but around 20 something lol! Which ever way he decides to go i'm sure this movie will definetly meet my expectations none the less
    "The only human female to ever fall in love with a prime"

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    Default Re: Less Robots, More Character?

    It would be nice to see some scenes in 3D.

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    Default Re: Less Robots, More Character?

    I dont really care if they dont introduce any new robots, a few would be needed though.

    But im really exicted about the idea of this taking place on cybertron, atleast for a big part of the movie, or atleast some fights on another planet or anything would be nice, fucking earth is boring.

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    Default Re: Less Robots, More Character?

    I agree that at least an hour or so this time must be on Cybertron , the Transformers must saw us their home ! it's time !!!

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    Default Re: MB interview LA times - less tfs less explosions

    Less TF but yet they are going to thier home world??? Am I missing something?

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