So Let's Talk About This 3D Thing

[wingzero]

I completely disagree with Bay. This form of 3D is the future of cinema.

No, unfortunately it is not, it's just marketing at work. The current 3D technology is a fake 3D effect not much better than that from the '50s/'60s .. actually it's just an updated version of it for the digital format, nothing better.
The true 3D vision will come with holographic projectors and displays that the industry actually has already developed and manufactured working prototypes and high-end expensive products for but it won't hit the actual market and being used for production and by customers until 2016-2020 to say the least, unfortunately... because the next step is UHDV 32MegaPixel video standard resolution covering all sectors from production to consumer houses, holographic 1TB and 2TB optical discs, H.265 ISO/IEC codec...

Transformers 3 and future possible Transformers 4 movies do not need this current 3D technology, it's just a big waste of money production wise, it lowers the quality of the final product and to push the product a lot of money must be wasted on marketing like it happened with Avatar... And anyway a Transformers movie with very fast paced action scenes and ultra-high resolution it's too much for this limited 3D technology, it would be impossible to watch it properly being the visual field narrowed using the glasses and eye strain surely introduced...

[BIG Tee]

i was disappointed with the avatar imax version. i liked the regular 2d version. james cameron should have done an imax version without the 3d, it could have looked better.

Exactly. I would have rather saw it in 2D IMAX. Plus I had to adjust my glasses the entire time. They kept sliding down my nose and off of my ears.

[lightning]

the 3d effect looks good at certain parts of the movie. but during the action sequences the 3d effect becomes quite unnoticeable.

[Trigger Mike]

...to push the product a lot of money must be wasted on marketing like it happened with Avatar...

What do you mean "push the product"? If Transformers 3 were to make use of the RealD process, they wouldn't have to do any extra work to educate the audience about it. Avatar has blazed that trail and converted a huge amount of people. In addition to which, Transformers 3 has the added advantage of a MASSIVE worldwide audience already built in.

If you build it, they will come.

And anyway a Transformers movie with very fast paced action scenes and ultra-high resolution it's too much for this limited 3D technology, it would be impossible to watch it properly being the visual field narrowed using the glasses and eye strain surely introduced...

I think that has more to do with the filmmaker than the technology. Avatar certainly didn't struggle action-wise and Cameron's work in that was EPIC to say the very least.

[r-type]

For reference, here is that great Cameron Interview from Variety back in 2008.

[uraydo]

I completely hate 3D in cinema. it's a gimmick that only works in the theater that is designed to distract from bad story telling.

However, I think it is important to note that good at home 3D does exist, but not commercially.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw

[r-type]

I completely hate 3D in cinema. it's a gimmick that only works in the theater that is designed to distract from bad story telling.

Yeah because movies like Avatar, and the people at Pixar (with UP) totally pulled the sheets over my head with it. C'mon Ury, I'll give you 100% agreement on your Final Destinations, your Bloody Valentine's, and your Piranhas. But to say that it's a smokescreen/crutch for all 3D movies, no sir.

However, I think it is important to note that good at home 3D does exist, but not commercially.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw

I can't wait for the reported head tracking option on Grand Turismo later this year, myself. Correct me if I'm wrong Ury, but, I fail to see how this how this is less "gimmicky" than S3D to you, if that is what you are alluding to. (you still have to wear something)

[Trigger Mike]

Yeah because movies like Avatar, and the people at Pixar (with UP) totally pulled the sheets over my head with it. C'mon Ury, I'll give you 100% agreement on your Final Destinations, your Bloody Valentine's, and your Piranhas. But to say that it's a smokescreen/crutch for all 3D movies, no sir.

Very well put.

[Dynasty]

I don't care for 3D... I have depth perception, I find the pop out to just be a distraction... one that gives me a headache. I'm happy with 2D, and if 3D theatre = the way of the future... I'll just be watching even more stuff on DVD at home.

[Bayhem]

I don't care for 3D... I have depth perception, I find the pop out to just be a distraction... one that gives me a headache. I'm happy with 2D, and if 3D theatre = the way of the future... I'll just be watching even more stuff on DVD at home.

Same.

[lightning]

the 3d popup didn't work for me.

[Bayhem]

Martin Scorsese, another 3D "victim" - http://www.collider.com/2010/04/13/m...-2011-release/


"Scorsese" and "3D" in the same sentence?

Kinda weird, if you ask me.

[Trailbreaker]

At least it's going to actually be filmed in 3-D rather than have that conversion process done.

[r-type]

At one point, people thought "Film" and "Sound" were weird in the same sentence as well.

A) the film will be shot in 3D rather than upconverted from 2D to 3D in post-production

I'd say Leterrier is more of a 3-D "victim".

Despite my approach to this with some skepticism (as with Clash and Resident Evil), I'm still pro 3D done right.






*not derailing with my other axe to grind with Marty.

[Michael Do]

was How to Train your Dragon shot in 3-D? i barely see any 3-d gimmicky in it.

[animonster]

Those who watch,don't watch,work in film, etc, 3D is like discussing politics so this is my disclaimer if I offend, as it's just my view..
Seen Avatar and other 3d films, nausea and headache. (Avatar was definitely least painful, and I liked the film.)I attended reputable 3D providing theaters and never had issues in 2D. I have excellent vision.
Some people still react differently I think. The human eye tends to work on a system struggling to see patterns and relaxing angles. The formula for this by the way is: (Bay + Camera = awesomeness)

It's hard to let the film decide what you're supposed to look at as it is in 3D.
At any time in a 3D movie if I look around the frame I'm always looking at a blurry spot or a burn in that feels like it's boiling my eyes.The tech is sort of fighting natural human programming for vision. Like a Karaoke bouncing ball with a mad blurry hangover.The obvious predictably random trash,or cats,or tires,jump out for no reason is sort of tripe as well. Most of my close group is divided but it's only between 2D and indifference.

I saw each TF movie twice in the theater and bought the dvds. If they were in 3D, my money would still be in my pocket. The dvd isn't the same experience for me and my group but better then spending our money on something that we don't like because we didn't have a choice?And the prices raised?
Where I come from that's called cheatin'. I also think Trigger bought shares in RealD. Relax dude. Ease up on the trigger.
The main concern is that we have a choice, which I didn't for Avatar and I wish I did.

If you work in film and have to work in stereoscopic you have to suck it up, that's what you do. There are huge challenges and expense in this area also,but unfortunately you have to do what you have to and not what you want to, just like every other job.(within reason)

I don't think it's gimmicky for a movie like Dragon at all,I haven't seen an animated 3D film with the goggs. I was worried it would be worse. Which says a lot as we love going to those films and wanted to see it but didn't strictly because we could only see it in 3D. I will most likely buy the dvd but would have liked to see it on the big screen.
I really hope to see TF 3 do well no matter what and I hope MB doesn't use 3D. He has fantastic shots,great lens use, great artists with him working on his films, and when it's in 3D it just doesn't " take me away " anymore. Kind of just makes me feel like I have another anchor in reality..

[rumblebee505]

I enjoy them except after I remove the glasses and put them on outside,people look like monsters....

[Michael Do]

hey man, where you been? long time no see!

[rumblebee505]

been around here,how ya been?just commenting on the 3d issue.I like it,change is painful but good.Lets move on to virtual reality now.LOL!

[snipperoth]

Phllips made tv's with 3d tech without the use of glasses