Resurections?

[Swift]

Thinking of any for the 3rd? Or have all the artifacts been used up? lol

[Bot of Badassness]

Me want more Ravage!

[BIG Tee]

The only one I can think of is Jazz. With a Transformer their spark has to be terminated. Megatron ripped him apart but it seems to me that his spark was not touched. So Ratchet and Wheeljack (if he is in TF3) could repair him. I'm not sure if they dumped him in the abyss with the other dead transformers though.

[eagc7]

I'm not sure if they dumped him in the abyss with the other dead transformers though.

Yes they did :P (see transforemrs alliance comic book and you will see)

[EpicBacons]

Honestly, I hope they stop with the consistent resurections. You know having clones ala Bone crusher and Black out, just feels a bit redundant. In my opinion, let the Fallen, Jazz, Arcee, Flare up, Chromia, Black out, Barricade, Sideways, etc. just rest in peace and instead bring in a few new good characters like maybe Ultra Magnus (alas no Robert Stack ), Aerial Bots, Shockwave and Screamers gang of Combaticons.

Although I would like to see Ravage return, because there was no scene in ROTF with Soundwave saying "Ravage eject, operation: autobot destruction"

[eagc7]

Honestly, I hope they stop with the consistent resurections. You know having clones ala Bone crusher and Black out, just feels a bit redundant. In my opinion, let the Fallen, Jazz, Arcee, Flare up, Chromia, Black out, Barricade, Sideways, etc. just rest in peace and instead bring in a few new good characters like maybe Ultra Magnus (alas no Robert Stack ), Aerial Bots, Shockwave and Screamers gang of Combaticons.

Although I would like to see Ravage return, because there was no scene in ROTF with Soundwave saying "Ravage eject, operation: autobot destruction"

Well teh ysay thta i nthe imax version soudnwave say soemthnig ot ravage after launched him to earhtb ut im nto sure i dotn have the imax dvd....,

Thrid bike is elita-1 or liek ALL BIKES ARE caleld in the Movie Just ARCEE

And yeah let them to rest in peace no ressurections PLZ

[BIG Tee]

Although I would like to see Ravage return, because there was no scene in ROTF with Soundwave saying "Ravage eject, operation: autobot destruction"

You're bringing back too many memories brother. If he ejected multiple minios he would say "Ravage, Rumble, Laserbeak operation: destruction. Eject, eject, eject. Or in the heat of battle he would just start ejecting tapes left and right. Pushing his eject button until someone stopped him.

[Swift]

The only one I can think of is Jazz. With a Transformer their spark has to be terminated. Megatron ripped him apart but it seems to me that his spark was not touched. So Ratchet and Wheeljack (if he is in TF3) could repair him. I'm not sure if they dumped him in the abyss with the other dead transformers though.

Idk, I like the idea of bringing back Jazz, but then I don't.

I mean, how would you like it if you were ripped out of being 'one' with the Allspark only to engage in battle to die again?

Idk, maybe it' best to let him rest in peace, no?

[Bot of Badassness]

There could be a Jazz clone, like Grindor in ROTF being a clone of Blackout. The Twins sort of have Jazz's personality as well, so because of those two, I'm happy

[Shadow]

Honestly, I hope they stop with the consistent resurections. You know having clones ala Bone crusher and Black out, just feels a bit redundant. In my opinion, let the Fallen, Jazz, Arcee, Flare up, Chromia, Black out, Barricade, Sideways, etc. just rest in peace and instead bring in a few new good characters like maybe Ultra Magnus (alas no Robert Stack ), Aerial Bots, Shockwave and Screamers gang of Combaticons.

Although I would like to see Ravage return, because there was no scene in ROTF with Soundwave saying "Ravage eject, operation: autobot destruction"

I say once dead, youre dead. ANd Barricade never died bro. There was no death scene. I for one think in the next movie they should not bring in another combiner as we all know that because of all the data and money it took to do Devs in ROTF, that it didnt leave much in the way for the single more important bots to get fleshed out.

Well teh ysay thta i nthe imax version soudnwave say soemthnig ot ravage after launched him to earhtb ut im nto sure i dotn have the imax dvd....,

Thrid bike is elita-1 or liek ALL BIKES ARE caleld in the Movie Just ARCEE

And yeah let them to rest in peace no ressurections PLZ

as for the toys... it's Arcee, Chromia and Flare Up for the sisters but in the movie they all were Arcee as a whole

Idk, I like the idea of bringing back Jazz, but then I don't.

I mean, how would you like it if you were ripped out of being 'one' with the Allspark only to engage in battle to die again?

Idk, maybe it' best to let him rest in peace, no?

well they brought back Blackout just to kill him off again lol But I agree let the dead stay that way.

[Trailbreaker]

Although I would like to see Ravage return, because there was no scene in ROTF with Soundwave saying "Ravage eject, operation: autobot destruction"

Seems a bit too obvious for him to say, eh? Look in ROTF, it seems that Soundwave voluntarily ejected Ravage himself rather than ordering Ravage to eject. Actually wait, he did that in G1 too, right?

There's always Laserbeak, btw.

As for resurrections, we shouldn't be playing around with the concept too much. It worked for Megatron and Optimus, but resurrecting too may robots would ultimately cheapen the meaning of death.

[Bot of Badassness]

we shouldn't be playing around with the concept too much. It worked for Megatron and Optimus, but resurrecting too may robots would ultimately cheapen the meaning of death.

bang on the money

Trailbreaker is right, we can introduce new charaters, to me thats more interesting than expanding a charater's plot. We get new weapons anyways

[Shadow]

Seems a bit too obvious for him to say, eh? Look in ROTF, it seems that Soundwave voluntarily ejected Ravage himself rather than ordering Ravage to eject. Actually wait, he did that in G1 too, right?

There's always Laserbeak, btw.

As for resurrections, we shouldn't be playing around with the concept too much. It worked for Megatron and Optimus, but resurrecting too may robots would ultimately cheapen the meaning of death.

the thing is though... in any TFs mith there is always a way to come back. There is the old... your spark never dies, it just downloads back to the Matrix or another holding device and waits for a new body/protoform to be downloaded to. Or a higher power comes along and revives the dead TF or my FAV... and im waiting for this one to come up in a movie... what about the indestructable spark? In mutiple incarnations of TFs Starscream lived on this way as his Spark was indestructable.

[Trailbreaker]

the thing is though... in any TFs mith there is always a way to come back. There is the old... your spark never dies, it just downloads back to the Matrix or another holding device and waits for a new body/protoform to be downloaded to. Or a higher power comes along and revives the dead TF or my FAV... and im waiting for this one to come up in a movie... what about the indestructable spark? In mutiple incarnations of TFs Starscream lived on this way as his Spark was indestructable.

Well I was more or less telling that from a non-TF fan point of view. Because really, yeah I totally get this TF mytho stuff on death. But for the sake of the movie man, for the story, it just sounds too cheap for characters to come back to life all the time.

Yes, they're robots indeed, but they're also characters, they're living, breathing, sentient creatures that we care about; not some machines you take to the shop, repair and have them back out fighting good as new. Doesn't work that way with humans.

[BIG Tee]

The Twins sort of have Jazz's personality as well, so because of those two, I'm happy

I couldn't agree with you LESS. Jazz was a true warrior. He didn't act silly in battle nor did he take everything as a joke. Yes Jazz used a little slang but, he wasn't over the top like Mudflap or Skids. Prime could trust Jazz as he was his Second Lieutenant. So no there is absolutely no comparison to those two jokes and Jazz.

[Bot of Badassness]

They're also characters, they're living, breathing, sentient creatures that we care about; not some machines you take to the shop, repair and have them back out fighting good as new. Doesn't work that way with humans.

once again, Bang on the Money

[chatterbox]

no ressurections UNLESS its my vortex from another universe concept and they arnet exactly copycats of the characters ie personalities from the prior movies

[Jazz935]

I am going to quote myself here ..

I would LOVE to have Jazz back..but if following the one line of comics.. it would be NOT a good thing.. Corrupted... and I would rather have Jazz remembered for what he did in TF1 ..then to see anything else bad happen to him.

[EpicBacons]

You're bringing back too many memories brother. If he ejected multiple minios he would say "Ravage, Rumble, Laserbeak operation: destruction. Eject, eject, eject. Or in the heat of battle he would just start ejecting tapes left and right. Pushing his eject button until someone stopped him.

Yep, and he was the main one giving friendly advice to Megatron which of course Megatron always agreed, whereas when Starscream gave advice, Megatron always scorned him.

I say once dead, youre dead. ANd Barricade never died bro. There was no death scene. I for one think in the next movie they should not bring in another combiner as we all know that because of all the data and money it took to do Devs in ROTF, that it didnt leave much in the way for the single more important bots to get fleshed out.

After the highway scene in TF1, we never saw him again. I assume following 2 years after TF1's events that Barricade was killed during the NEST's Anti-Decepticon purge, the Decepticons were without a true leader.

I think Combiners would be a little easier if the budget was payed less to human actors and more concentrated on Transformers lore, having more big time actors in movies doesn't help (which is good to have some unknowns in movies, as they say too many spoons spoil the broth).

Seems a bit too obvious for him to say, eh? Look in ROTF, it seems that Soundwave voluntarily ejected Ravage himself rather than ordering Ravage to eject. Actually wait, he did that in G1 too, right?


There's always Laserbeak, btw.

Soundwave ordered Wheelie a little and he ordered other Protoforms to come to Earth (Megatron later would order some more). With Ravage, he just shot him to the base and the boat with the Constructicons over the Lorentian Abyss.

As for resurrections, we shouldn't be playing around with the concept too much. It worked for Megatron and Optimus, but resurrecting too may robots would ultimately cheapen the meaning of death.

I agree, its just cheesy. I think also rather see no more clones of prominent characters (Blackout, Bonecrusher, Constructicons, etc.), it just feels messy to me.

[phoenixgirl]

Yeah, we need to go down on the resurections. What is the point of a climatic battle to the death if the combatnents can come back to life afterward?

[BIG Tee]

Yep, and he was the main one giving friendly advice to Megatron which of course Megatron always agreed, whereas when Starscream gave advice, Megatron always scorned him.

Yes, and hopefully we see this in TF3.

[chatterbox]

looks to be ravage. But how?

[Mr.Gabba]

I say let the dead stay dead. As much as I'd like to have Ravage back, I still think he'd should stay dead. We've got plenty more characters to throw in.

[chatterbox]

im saying ravage is back.... i wonder if shadow knows...

[XxSoundwavexX]

Me want more Ravage!

i 2nd that