Blu-Ray or HD DVD

[Smokescreen_5]

Downloadable HD content that comes on par with Blu-ray is still almost 20 years away.

The physical disc will be the dominant format during our lifetimes.

The current downloadable "HD" content from Apple and xbox Live is 720p with lossy Dolby 5.1 - it does not even hold a candle to Blu-ray.

Within the next year the players will be available for under $200 and the movie prices will drop too. Blu-ray will be adopted in a similar timeframe as DVD was moving forward now.

Or you can figure out a way to get a PS3 for $129.99 errr.. I mean.. hmm.. interesting.. yesss... heh heh. ..

[Double]

Source link http://www.current.com.au/2008/02/20...XGEAZOXNF.html
Blu-ray could still lose HD video war: Toshiba
By Matthew Henry


“This step is going to be leapfrogged by the next major format – digital content, internet downloads and video on demand.”


“DVD upscaling technology means you get near high definition quality, and to most people there is little discernable difference.”

Toshiba's HD DVD players also have the potential for internet connectivity which gives them the potential to accept HD video streaming over ethernet connectivity, which could be utilised by the company in the future.



[Wed 20/02/2008 12:56:00]

What an ass. Like Mr. Bay said: Nobody's is going to watch full length movies at home on their Ipod.

True it's hard to tell the difference on say, a 32" LCD. But there is clearly a noticeable difference on 50"+.

And last time I checked, most BR players have ethernet connections on them. And those brands that don't, soon will.

[Mobe1969]

Source link http://www.current.com.au/2008/02/20...XGEAZOXNF.html
Blu-ray could still lose HD video war: Toshiba
By Matthew Henry

SYDNEY: Toshiba claims that Sony’s victory in the high definition disc format war will be short lived due to the rise of HD digital video downloads over broadband, which the company claims was one of the key reason for abandoning HD DVD.

In a press conference this morning, Toshiba Australia general manager, Mark Whittard, said that while the US film and retail industries’ recent shift to support Blu-ray sealed HD DVD’s fate, other factors played a role in Toshiba’s abandonment of its high definition video disc business.

Whittard claims the penetration of both next generation disc formats is well below expectations while uptake of digital movie download services is accelerating, and could render HD discs redundant.

“We believe technology developments will soon leapfrog high definition discs, whether it be HD DVD or Blu-ray,” he claimed.

“This step is going to be leapfrogged by the next major format – digital content, internet downloads and video on demand.”

Whittard also identified DVD as a formidable competitor to Blu-ray.

According to figures quoted by Toshiba, total sales of HD movie discs reached a paltry $300 million last year compared to sales of over $23 billion for DVD discs.

Whittard claims Blu-ray will find it difficult to replace DVD in the same way DVD comprehensively replaced VHS.

Toshiba sold less than one million HD DVD players worldwide, and while Blu-ray has achieved higher penetration with the PS3, Whittard claims DVD will be “extremely difficult” for Blu-ray to overcome.

“DVD players still sell in their tens of millions worldwide today,” he said.

“DVD upscaling technology means you get near high definition quality, and to most people there is little discernable difference.”

However, while Toshiba is now moving towards a business model which will see it place more emphasis on other HD video delivery platforms, it has not ruled out joining the Blu-ray camp.

“You never say never, but at this stage there are no plans,” he said.

Toshiba's HD DVD players also have the potential for internet connectivity which gives them the potential to accept HD video streaming over ethernet connectivity, which could be utilised by the company in the future.



[Wed 20/02/2008 12:56:00]

This is just somthing i found today on the 21/02/08
personal i dont care. To me the format wars are over.

What a load of shit. 720p is not HD. I know that is what the assholes in the industry refer to it as, but for FUCKS sake, there is a bigger difference between 720 and 1080 than from 480 to 720. 720 is MD (medium definition). And fucked if I want to fuck about storing terabytres of shit to keep a movie collection.

Fuck all these download naysayer fucksticks. Have digital downloads replaced DVD, or even come close? No? Not even a factor? Then why the FUCK do shit eating media fuck faces keep trundling out the same shit in the Blu ray argument. I wouldn't even take a piss on a 720p transfer. I'd water some plants instead.

[dvdvision]

It's true it's doubtful that 60% of current DVD household are Blu by 5 years times, I say it'll take at least 10 years, by then, the new thing will come which is 2K BR or 3D. Still will be HD thought.

I agree 720p is shit, it looks like little improved SD stuff. 1080p all the way !

[xAgonyxScenex]

WHAT IN THE FUCK!!! O_O

Am i fucking seriously seeing the poll numbers correctly?!?!?!?!?!?!

1258790 votes for blu ray!!!

Over a million fuckin people came here to vote for blu ray...theres no fuckin way that happened. Who messed with the #'s?1 haha

[ScarCrow28]

Downloadable HD content that comes on par with Blu-ray is still almost 20 years away.

The physical disc will be the dominant format during our lifetimes.

The current downloadable "HD" content from Apple and xbox Live is 720p with lossy Dolby 5.1 - it does not even hold a candle to Blu-ray.

Within the next year the players will be available for under $200 and the movie prices will drop too. Blu-ray will be adopted in a similar timeframe as DVD was moving forward now.

You say that, but yet Mp3s have changed the music industry drastically. Currently iTunes is the No. 2 Retail music store. And they are still stuck with DRM because the Record labels are holding a grudge against Apple & Steve Jobs.

Audiophiles, who are just as high-standard minded as those of us HDphiles. And while mp3s are stuck at a "less then cd-quality" sound and played on sub-audiophile ipods, receivers, computers & speakers, the general Joe Schmoe public really doesn't care as long as the overall user experience makes them satisfied.

Need another example? Just look at the iPhone. This article explains the point again.

http://www.macworld.com/article/1322...8/02/edge.html

the iPhone has "slow" internet connection speed. Yet it has transformed the "superphone" industry. And more iPhone users are browsing the net then on any other phone. The user experience is just better.


Apple knows this and this isn't their first rodayo. And with talks of the economy going turdburgs up, The price point of Apple TV Vs current Bu-Ray (Just saw Sony's new 400 & 500 dollar models they plan to launch soon) and the overall user experience, Apple's HD downloads just may make a good size dent in the short term. And customers may then not see a reason to rush to optical disk anymore long term.

And as everyone knows, technology always gets better. You can bet Apple's HD downloads won't stay rentals forever. Nor will they stay 720p. All apple is waiting for is more widespread "Awesome" FiOS class network support across the country. Same as why they waited on the iPhone's 3G. And the movie studios want to see a proven downloads business model.

I love Blu-Ray just as much as any HDphile, but I wouldn't underestimate Apple TV's influence in the market.

[Bumblebee1983]

WHAT IN THE FUCK!!! O_O

Am i fucking seriously seeing the poll numbers correctly?!?!?!?!?!?!

1258790 votes for blu ray!!!

Over a million fuckin people came here to vote for blu ray...theres no fuckin way that happened. Who messed with the #'s?1 haha

Yeah, somebody's screwed with the numbers.

I demand a recount.

[dvdvision]

Itunes number two retail store ? My CDs are for sale in all itunes, and yet, I fail to sell more than 10 copies of each a year, when the same CD in stores pulls off 15 000 easy, and I'm talking cult forgotten french punk rock.

No, in itunes, you're just a lost word amongst millions of others, unless your Madonna, you don't sell jack.

mp3s didn't change the music industry, they just took the place of transistor radios. The industry killed music with CDs. Luckily, now vinyl is back and growing, but the damage will take a long time to be repaired.

If you're into punk, check out my site www.seventeenrecords.com

[Smokescreen_5]

Yeah, somebody's screwed with the numbers.

I demand a recount.

Looking at the Members List, there are 812 pages of people, 30 people per page, the math says at the most, 24,360 people. So yeah... the numbers were tampered with. With the average people that look at this website, I'd say a good number would be more around 400 votes for Blu - Ray.

[uraydo]

Yeah, somebody's screwed with the numbers.

I demand a recount.

This travesty has "theGreat" written all over it. I DEMAND JUSTICE.

[Smokescreen_5]

This travesty has "theGreat" written all over it. I DEMAND JUSTICE.

Hmmm... I figured the creator (nelson) of this thread/poll had something to do with it.

Guess its time to call in the JUSTICE LEAGUE... better round up Superman, Impulse, Green Arrow, Cyborg, and Aquaman... (Smallville)

[uraydo]

"Talk about the wrong stuff..."

Fun knee!

[Mobe1969]

Maybe a moderator was just making a point that THE WAR IS OVER...

[cutie_tech123]

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[ScarCrow28]

happy birthday! wish you all the best in your career. good luck in your everyday journey. God bless and more power!
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