Unicron

[EpicBacons]

my greatest issue with the planet size unicron would be the physics involved. I cant see unicron reaching earth and not having an enourmous shift in the planetary orbits in consequence. That would mean an shift in the solar system as we know it.

If there is a will there is a way, with the best technology (computers) out there - there is little doubt that it could be done if they wanted. If they do a Death Star sized Unicron/Primus (but with the alien design to it). It's obvious not going to be realistic... but who cares, its Transformers and its a science fiction flick.

If he doesnt reach earth then it will have to pass in deep space and that goes off the point as in M Bay wants a human-Robot interation.

I've seen the interview reguarding the producer, and his opinion that it would mean less screen time for the humans and make it less realistic... well obviously it already passed the relm of realistic and its Transformers... and that its weakness that it uses pointless things such as Sam going to College, etc. We don't even get to see the Transformers interact with humans much at all, so. With Unicron and an intergallactic battle, it would force the issue of having a good plot with uber-science fiction elements (hence Independence Day). Even Shia LaBeouf hopes there is a intergallactic battle sequence, he said in TF1 you were introduced to Megatron, in TF2 there was a bigger threat (the Fallen and Megatron) - TF3 should follow up on that.

All in all, im not against Unicron but i would like it done right.

I agree, but I think it needs to have a really good story. A little mythology of Primus and Unicron would be really cool as well.

[retlaw]

Already said it acouple of times before, unicron would be the perfect way to go with the story and conclude the trilogy with a bang. If done right you would have the same life-on-earth threathening situation as in armaggeddon and that worked just fine. Missed that feeling with the first 2 movies. Imagine a scene with the autobots, decepticons and the military in a meeting discussing how to defeat this common enemy.

[eagc7]

Unicron plz bay!!!

[EpicBacons]

I agree completely with the two posters below me, and if this is the last one... what better way of doing it than Unicron?

Also, I just want to say in a few articles it stated that Shia Labeouf threw us somewhat of a tiny hint... that Transformers 3 will be darker than the first two and that it will be an intergallatic setting. That can only be a few things, UNICRON! The chaos bringer! It would be awesome to listen to the Unicron Medley in the form of a Steve Jablonsky score. I read somewhere that Michael Bay would find Unicron interesting in future installments for comparison sake. Here's hoping!

[superion_uk]

Unicron would definitely be do-able in TF3. He would not necessarily need to be planet sized. I like the idea of small moon or space station. Either way it would still be a big-@$$ robot!

[IHeartBayhem]

If Unicron ends up in the film as the big bad, I would do that cliche thing of shaking my fists in front of me while doing a girlish squeal out of nerdiness.

[Twonk]

Everyone keeps wanting bigger and badder robots in TF3 same thing happened with TF2 and we got devastator.
As cool as he was he was hardly used and when we did see him he was getting his face smashed in by one of the twins and then blown to bits by a rail gun.
The amount of money it would cost to produce unicron would make devastator look cheep.
I would personally like to see money used on more G1 robots, for example springer hotrod ultramagnus astrotran sixshot and quintasons.
Would also like to see a longer film maybe 3 hour mark to give it more depth over the last but hay that's just me.

[fu2kimus_prime]

I'm coming round to the idea of having Unicron in the movie franchise. I think Michael, and the guys at ILM have the technology and skill to pull it off.

I also like the idea of having a threat to both factions. Something that forces Prime, and Megatron to have to work together and fight side by side for abit.

[muvee]

Although is a fiction movie we must think about the consequences of a planet size in attack course to earth

- First tides would go crazy (only with moon there are big waves with its gravitational pull)

-There would be any kind of natural disasters like The Day After Tomorrow

- If its Bigger than earth it would terminate it only with a wave of its hand and movie would end very quick and tragically

So i think Unicron should be smaller than earth but gets a little bit bigger when it transforms and maybe use some sort of large tentacles like straws that extracts the planet resources slowly
But of course my opinion is just one of so many others

[Trailbreaker]

Although is a fiction movie we must think about the consequences of a planet size in attack course to earth

- First tides would go crazy (only with moon there are big waves with its gravitational pull)

-There would be any kind of natural disasters like The Day After Tomorrow

- If its Bigger than earth it would terminate it only with a wave of its hand and movie would end very quick and tragically

So i think Unicron should be smaller than earth but gets a little bit bigger when it transforms and maybe use some sort of large tentacles like straws that extracts the planet resources slowly
But of course my opinion is just one of so many others

Not only that, but his gravitational field would alter the angle of Earth's axis, alter its rotational speed, and maybe even alter its entire orbital pattern. Basically, if Unicron wanted to destroy up a planet, he'd just have to stand next to it.

Death Star sized, that should do it.

[redqueenar]

But guys... if it looks like the Death Star, the entire planet will go "Oh, it's just another Death Star." Don't you want this iteration of Unicron to be unique? (There are four! Step off! )

[CesarCardoso]

But guys... if it looks like the Death Star, the entire planet will go "Oh, it's just another Death Star." Don't you want this iteration of Unicron to be unique? (There are four! Step off! )

of course it should be unique, but it has been M Bay's objective to make this movie as it would be if it actually happened. As realistic as possible. If we go too much into the Sci-fi with the physics, itll look crappy and people will ridicule it.

Remember the interview for TF1 where M Bay states that if the lighting is just a bit off, people will notice its not real? I believe in his commitment to realistic effects and reall hope they take time to think this through, if they chose to bring in Unicron.

[EpicBacons]

If they go the routo of a Death Star/moon sized, they can alter it. Have the signature yellow tusks and the "ring" around it which would turn into Unicron's "wings" when he transforms into robot mode. Maybe some of the ancient language as well, I'm sure they can make it feel alien like all others to give a realistic feel.

[Trailbreaker]

He can be Death Star sized, but he doesn't have to be Death Star shaped.

[the_almighty_moo]

if unicron is goign around screwing up earth's gravitational field i think thats reason enough for the autobots to stop him, so they can keep thier new home :P

maybe he's been in 'planet form' for so long he has atmosphere, even inside him? that could explain why humans are romping around isndie him

[EpicBacons]

If they have Unicron, I don't think they'd have something like that to make it as realistic (science wise) as possible. When it comes to science fiction movies, realism is irrelevent.

[Trailbreaker]

If they have Unicron, I don't think they'd have something like that to make it as realistic (science wise) as possible. When it comes to science fiction movies, realism is irrelevent.

Realism is out of the question. Believability however is crucial.

[EpicBacons]

TBH, realism and believability are pretty much the same thing. It's hollywood and a science fiction popcorn flick, I doubt anyone is going to pay attention to minor details like that.

[Drake]

Think of it this way. Wouldn't it take a bit out of the Star Wars magic if the space battles were utterly silent, like they really would be?

[TIMtationX]

No Unicron please. He would just eat Earth and the movie would be over.

[Trailbreaker]

TBH, realism and believability are pretty much the same thing. It's hollywood and a science fiction popcorn flick, I doubt anyone is going to pay attention to minor details like that.

Well, I sorta meant in a way that the audience would be able to buy it, it doesn't have to look absolutely 100% realistic. Really, what needs to be done is keep everything amazing, but without stepping into the land of total awkwardness. A planet sized robot for example would be too over the top for the average movie goer to grasp. It might have worked 25 years ago, but today it would look outright silly. That's why Unicron would fit well in a nice, comfortable space station size.

But there are cases in which you have to break the rules. For example, sound in space. With these intergalactic battles possibly happening anyways, they're going to have to put sound in space, because we can better interact with it. Just imagine how awkward it would be to watch an epic battle with absolutely no sound?

[EpicBacons]

Well, I sorta meant in a way that the audience would be able to buy it, it doesn't have to look absolutely 100% realistic. Really, what needs to be done is keep everything amazing, but without stepping into the land of total awkwardness. A planet sized robot for example would be too over the top for the average movie goer to grasp. It might have worked 25 years ago, but today it would look outright silly. That's why Unicron would fit well in a nice, comfortable space station size.

The critics have said that Michael Bay's movies go under the area of 'over the top'. I thought this one is part of the many Michael Bay philosophy is that bigger = better, and that too much is never a bad thing.


Actually a space station size is smaller than a small moon/death star in terms of size.

But there are cases in which you have to break the rules. For example, sound in space. With these intergalactic battles possibly happening anyways, they're going to have to put sound in space, because we can better interact with it. Just imagine how awkward it would be to watch an epic battle with absolutely no sound?

Of course you could put a Steve Jablonsky score in it, but I'm sure that's not what you meant. If it goes intergallactic and if it were up to me, the battle would be on Cybertron (Decepticons vs. Autobots with their human allies), if it were about Unicron. Not exactly space ships shooting other space ships with colorful lasers.

[Trailbreaker]

The critics have said that Michael Bay's movies go under the area of 'over the top'. I thought this one is part of the many Michael Bay philosophy is that bigger = better, and that too much is never a bad thing.

Well they're talking in terms of "ka-boom, explosion, OMFG what just happened?!" over the top. I have no problem with that at all. I'm just saying that an extremely huge ass robot the size of a planet just goes beyond anything the human mind can comprehend. If we try to replicate that, we can only go as far as our minds can comprehend it, and thereby screwing the whole thing up and entering the land of awkwardness.

Actually a space station size is smaller than a small moon/death star in terms of size.

Well, Obi-Wan did refer to the Death Star as a space station.

Of course you could put a Steve Jablonsky score in it, but I'm sure that's not what you meant. If it goes intergallactic and if it were up to me, the battle would be on Cybertron (Decepticons vs. Autobots and human allies on it), if it were about Unicron. Not exactly space ships shooting other space ships with colorful lasers.

Well, duh, of course there would be music. I'm talking about whoosh, zap, ka-boom stuff. I'm saying that battle sounds and stuff would help put the audience right in the moment, stuff is going on so they're going to expect to hear it happen than just seeing it.

Or, like you said, it could be on Cybertron, where there's an atmosphere.

[jamjam101]

Well they're talking in terms of "ka-boom, explosion, OMFG what just happened?!" over the top. I have no problem with that at all. I'm just saying that an extremely huge ass robot the size of a planet just goes beyond anything the human mind can comprehend. If we try to replicate that, we can only go as far as our minds can comprehend it, and thereby screwing the whole thing up and entering the land of awkwardness

I Couldn't have said it better. I honestly dont want Unicron..just sounds like a very easy idea to screw up. LIke spidey 3 "yea lets put Venom cuz it's the obvious choice'' and they completely f#ed that over..
Unicron is the obvious choice most likely, but there is so much more that they can focus on without even mentioning him in the TF lore.

From what I can tell, because Bay hates Dinobots, he may hate the idea of Unicron as well....but thats just me, and who knows, because he said he's taking a year off and never did....anything just might happen.

Im just very very scared. Because the better TF3 turns out, the happier we ALL will be. and I'd love to see MB and Trans.3 be highly successfull!!

[Trailbreaker]

Here's another thing I just realized. Unicron has no real reason to transform, either. If your a huge ass robot in space there is no doubt in my mind that somebody is going to see you. And no, that planet disguise won't help one bit, unless you were covered in moon rock, like he was in Transformers Armada.