ROTF, Star Trek & The Dark Knight; Which is better?

[scalan15]

I liked TDK but I think the reason so many critics gave it positives reviews was because of the death of Heath Ledger, I think it was taboo for them to give it a bad review because of that. I still don't know how Star Trek got 95% on Rotten Tomatoes, I think it had way more plot holes than ROTF, First of all Nero waiting around twenty something years for Old spock. the special effects were not that great, ROTF was at least three times better than Star Trek and The Dark knights, here are my grades;

Special Effects;

Star Trek's Effect were just so-so, the Dark knight did not use much CGI, but the times it did, it looked very fake, I did not think Two-face's CGI was that realitic. ROTF Speaks for itself, the Forest scene was just plain EPIC

Star Trek: 7/10
the Dark Knight 3/10
Revenge of the Fallen 10/10

Score;

this was my favorite part of ROTF, they used a few pieces from the first movie, but the new parts added like, "Prime", "Tomb of the Primes", "Matrix of leadership" and "I claim your Sun" were amazing, I loved the score but I felt it could have had one or two more new tracks. Star trek did nothing original, none of the music wowed me, The Dark Knight used the exact same music from Batman Begins, which I loved, but i don't remember hearing anything new.

Star Trek 3/10
the Dark knight 7/10
Revenge of the Fallen 9/10

Story:

for a transformers fan, ROTF was easy to follow, i can see how a non-fan might get confused, but the story itself was fun, perfect for a popcorn action summer movie, the Story in Star Trek was kinda weak, this reboot was supposed to be about the academy days, now how much of those days did they really show? they show Kirk taking the Kobayashi Maru Test, then that's it??? Plus the whole Nero waiting 20 years for Old spock was kinda ridiculous, I would think that after 20 years the guy would not be mad anymore and would wanna get laid. The Story for the Dark Knight was good too, but again, HUGE PLOT HOLES, I thought the scene where Gordon got shot was RIDICULOUS, you're telling me that you don't see the Joker with all that makeup on in the first row dressed as a cop? Yet after the shots they stop the Mad Hatter and don't grab the guy with the screwed up face, the whole talk the Joker had with Harvey Dent about how he does not have a plan, that was kinda hypocritical, because the whole movie was about the Joker's plan, I actually think TDK had more plot holes that ROTF.

Star Trek 7/10
The Dark Knight 8/10
Revenge of the Fallen 7/10

Overall:

Star Trek 5.7/10
The Dark Knight 6/10
Revenge of the Fallen 8.7/10

[Trailbreaker]

Quit comparing apples and oranges.

[MrX]

Quit comparing apples and oranges.

I was Thinking the same thing. I can't compare them. Each film has their strengths and each has their weaknesses but they were all good.

[Trailbreaker]

I was Thinking the same thing. I can't compare them. Each film has their strengths and each has their weaknesses but they were all good.

Yeah, but I had to get it out with my above post. Sorry. But it's still comparing two very different things, in the sense that when comparing ROTF to Star Trek and the Dark Knight, it's like comparing a box of Coco Puffs to two boxes of Honey Bunches of Oats.

[Drake]

Heath Ledger made TDK. Bale is overrated.

[Sillypuddy]

I was Thinking the same thing. I can't compare them. Each film has their strengths and each has their weaknesses but they were all good.

Agreed....

[Trailbreaker]

Actually, you know what? I'll give you my honest opinion.

When I see a movie, what I am looking for is whether or not that movie has magic, that is, the ability to give me goosebumps. And with that in mind I am going to have to say...

...Star Trek. Here's why. It gave me goosebumps...twice. Revenge did not do it once. In fact, there were some scenes in Revenge where I sat there with a bored look on my face.

I don't recall The Dark Knight giving me goosebumps but there were many scenes where I couldn't get my eyes off the screen, I enjoyed it way more than Revenge.

Now some of you might be thinking, "Trailbreaker! What's wrong with you?! You should be loving Transformers more than all of these other movies!!!" Before anybody decided to pounce on me and criticize me for liking these movies better than Revenge, I will have you know that the first Transformers had me captivated more than any other film out there, in fact, I enjoyed Transformers in theaters more than any other movie. I left that theater with a massive smile on my face that I couldn't get off for an hour. Revenge just didn't do that for me.

[scalan15]

Actually, you know what? I'll give you my honest opinion.

When I see a movie, what I am looking for is whether or not that movie has magic, that is, the ability to give me goosebumps. And with that in mind I am going to have to say...

...Star Trek. Here's why. It gave me goosebumps...twice. Revenge did not do it once. In fact, there were some scenes in Revenge where I sat there with a bored look on my face.

I don't recall The Dark Knight giving me goosebumps but there were many scenes where I couldn't get my eyes off the screen, I enjoyed it way more than Revenge.

Now some of you might be thinking, "Trailbreaker! What's wrong with you?! You should be loving Transformers more than all of these other movies!!!" Before anybody decided to pounce on me and criticize me for liking these movies better than Revenge, I will have you know that the first Transformers had me captivated more than any other film out there, in fact, I enjoyed Transformers in theaters more than any other movie. I left that theater with a massive smile on my face that I couldn't get off for an hour. Revenge just didn't do that for me.

You got "GOOSEBUMPS" from Star Trek? What scenes? becuase tghe whole damn movie was nothing but bad imitations of the previous characters, I actually like star trek, but that movie did not give me goosebumps.

Now in ROTF I got goosebumps during the forest fight, and when Optimus Said "Let's Roll" If you did not get your goosebumps during those scenes then you're not a real transformers fan

[Comicbook guy94]

The Dark Knight ROTF was ok but not the best

[Trailbreaker]

You got "GOOSEBUMPS" from Star Trek? What scenes? becuase tghe whole damn movie was nothing but bad imitations of the previous characters, I actually like star trek, but that movie did not give me goosebumps.

Yes, beginning sequence, Enterprise shots, etc.

Bad imitations my ass. The actors f*cking nailed their roles.

Now in ROTF I got goosebumps during the forest fight, and when Optimus Said "Let's Roll" If you did not get your goosebumps during those scenes then you're not a real transformers fan

Not a "real Transformer fan?" What kind of bullshit is that? I have had to clarify this so many times to the haters "there are no such thing as true fans!", I never thought I would have to clarify it to a supporter. I have tried and tried to support this film the best I can, condemning haters for making the false racial stereotype accusations, and now I get bitched at by supporters because I think Star Trek is better than Revenge?

You also completely ignore the fact that I LOVE TF1! Now I am suddenly not "a true transformer fan" because I don't love ROTF?!

[UnclePetey]

Yes, beginning sequence, Enterprise shots, etc.

Bad imitations my ass. The actors f*cking nailed their roles.

Damned skippy- those actors and actresses kicked ass.
Again, this is like comparing apples to oranges, or at least pears...

[darthrage]

Quit comparing apples and oranges.

Anyone can compare any movie they want as long as it is to their own personal standard

You can rate it at, how much did you enjoy........?

Or which DO YOU like more?

Or overall which was the better movie, in your opinion?

For me:

Dark Knight 10/10
Star Trek 9/10
ROTF 8/10

But for share overall enjoyment, I liked ROTF the most because that is the type of movie that I enjoy watching. This year, Star Trek is the best movie to come out. BUT it doesn't mean I'm going to watch Star Trek again and again. I'm going to watch Transformers again and again and again even though I gave it a lower score because I feel that there were some flaws in the movie that prevent it from getting a higher score

[Johnd818]

This thread is like comparing apples to oranges, but it could be a lot worse. Could you imagine if people were comparing watermellon to arugula? Now that would be some bullshit man!

First, Trail...what can I say. Much respect here. I both agree (actors in ST DID kick ass) and disagree (RoTF had those "moments" for me) with you, but I hate to see you attacked for having an opinion. I value your opinion and do not consider you a hater/non-fan/whatever. So let's leave Trail alone for having an opinion for Peter Cullen's sake!

The enjoyment of a movie is a completely personal experience. Not to rip off your line Sora, but you're absolutely correct. If you absolutely loved this movie, I'm so glad you did. Honestly! For the most part I did too! That's your opinion and it's what you're entitled to feel. Don't jump on someone else for sharing their opinion just because it's different.

Damn I'm sick of the fighting.

[Trailbreaker]

This thread is like comparing apples to oranges, but it could be a lot worse. Could you imagine if people were comparing watermellon to arugula? Now that would be some bullshit man!

First, Trail...what can I say. Much respect here. I both agree (actors in ST DID kick ass) and disagree (RoTF had those "moments" for me) with you, but I hate to see you attacked for having an opinion. I value your opinion and do not consider you a hater/non-fan/whatever. So let's leave Trail alone for having an opinion for Peter Cullen's sake!

The enjoyment of a movie is a completely personal experience. Not to rip off your line Sora, but you're absolutely correct. If you absolutely loved this movie, I'm so glad you did. Honestly! For the most part I did too! That's your opinion and it's what you're entitled to feel. Don't jump on someone else for sharing their opinion just because it's different.

Damn I'm sick of the fighting.

Thanks dude.

And yeah, I'm sick of fighting as well. Watch guys, I bet that when ROTF comes out on DVD I'm probably gonna watch it like 100 times over and over again, lol!

But I'm definitely not going back to see it in theaters. (I only saw TF1 once in theaters, fyi) I actually rarely see a movie more than once in theaters, the only times when I do is when I get invited to go, and in a recent case, Star Trek. If someone invited me to ROTF I'd go again.

Anyways, Sora is right, it's a personal experience, we're all gonna have something different to say. I certainly had! LOL

btw, John, I liked your "for Peter Cullen's sake!" I knew he was God!

[Hase0]

different type of movie
but i never really like the dark knight

i prefer star trek and ROTF
i like a solid story like star trek , good effects , nice plot , entertaining from the beginning .
and without a doubt i like super advance robots , hot chicks , outstanding special effects and cgi , cool cars .

so i think i go with Transformers

[darthrage]

We're just comparing movies aren't we?

We're still comparing the same type of medium

The better way to put it is which do you like more?

Its not so hard to get an answer out of it

So what if they're different movies, they're still movies.

I think the better question is one of the following:

1) which do you feel had more value?
2) which do you have a more fun time at?

I think the reason why the thread starter picked these 3 movies is because:

1) Dark Knight is currently the 2nd biggest movie
2) ROTF is very likely to be 3rd place
3) Dark Knight and ROTF's B.O. opening has been compared all over the media
4) Star Trek is the only other BIG sci-fi movie that came out this year so far.
5) All 3 of them are big budget sci-fi themed movies that are based off of material that has sci-fi elements in them

So why can't that be compared with each other? I think the people who don't wanna compare them just have a hard time saying that they liked one movie more than the other.

I once asked which is better Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon or Hero or House of Flying Daggers and then someone responded saying that I am comparing apples and oranges. What the hell?? They're all mandarin language martial arts movies from China! Why the hell can't I compare them? Just because they take place in differeny dynasties??? That's ridiculous. Movies should be compared with other movies and that's the way it's supposed to be.

If Martin Scorsese released a film in the summer and Michael Bay released a movie also in the summer and they both have star power and possibility of making some big box office numbers, why can't they be compared? Just because they are 2 different genres of movies?? Yes they're different genres, but they came out in the same summer thus they can be compared.

When someone says "What is the better movie?" I think they mean overall from acting, story, action, entertainment value as a whole.

[StefsChemicalRomance]

I liked them all for their own reasons.

Even though they are all movies, it is, in essence, comparing apples and oranges.. and pineapples.

You can't compare special effects between Star Trek and TDK. TDK used fuck all visual effects. (I think the glass in the Hospital explosion scene was the most CG they used in that film).

Each have different ways of making themselves great. Non-comparable, one would think.

[ShineOn.]

ROTF was epic, just lacked the ending that TF1 and TDK had

[BeZerKoManDr]

Dark Knight was best movie I says but Star Trek and Transformers movies truly epic.

[Johnny LaPhlegm]

Dark Knight. Not even in the same league as the other two.

[Prime9]

LOL, yall are crazy here! ROTF vs TDK? ROTF is not even in the same league as TDK. TDK was actually good and made sense. Star Trek was better as well, way better.

[lightning]

ROTF

Star Trek

The Dark Knight

[taybrian1]

Can't I like ROTF and TDK the same? I'd hate to pick.

[First Gen]

ROTF over The Dark Knight? I think not.

[xAgonyxScenex]

the dark knight was the best of the bunch...easily