Plot holes?

[RavingDork]

Several reviews I have read have claimed that the new Transformers movie is filled with "enough plot holes of such size as to drive Optimus Prime through."

Sadly, none of the reviews go into any details as to what the plot holes are.

So, please list any and all plot holes that you noticed about the movie. I tend not to catch such things myself.

[Bay_Fan_Gibson]

I just wanna know where Wheelie went during the battle.

[soundwaveblaster]

I just wanna know where Wheelie went during the battle.

Polishing his tailpipe with Mikaela's panties...

[MrX]

I just wanna know where Wheelie went during the battle.

If he was smart he would have hid somewhere. I mean, what could he do against something as big as Megatron or Devastator? His attacks would have been as effective as throwing marshmallows.

[magjipro]

I just wanna know where Wheelie went during the battle.

He got stepped on and died, it was to graphic of a scene to put into the movie.

[FR MATTUU]

He got stepped on and died, it was to graphic of a scene to put into the movie.

how do you know this. Just wondering.

[Mech_1000]

Well... they were hunting and destroying decepticons for two years. Maybe they found barricade some time in that time line.

[redqueenar]

Several reviews I have read have claimed that the new Transformers movie is filled with "enough plot holes of such size as to drive Optimus Prime through."

Sadly, none of the reviews go into any details as to what the plot holes are.

So, please list any and all plot holes that you noticed about the movie. I tend not to catch such things myself.

I believe it's been mentioned that Devastator appears to be in two places at once, but I don't think that's right. I thought that Devastator had actually come apart after the skirmish with the Twins and that what Bee was later fighting were more Constructions. Not sure though. part of the fun of watching it over and over again is figuring it out, actually. But it's not like each character doesn't have a distinguishing physical trait, whether it's wings, doors, or a paint job.

People are just cranky because it's disorienting. Suck it up! Robot war is hell!

[Jammed9000]

Plot holes:
Constructicons in 2 places.
Wheelie disapearing
The Twins disapearing

[Ladies_Man_217]

Suck it up! Robot war is hell!

I haven't posted in a while but.....I couldn't resist complimenting you on a perfect line.....it is definitely "sig" worthy

[OmarB]

I didn't get the moment when all the army vehicles floated upwards and then slammed down into the pyramid. I saw the commercial for the video game and saw in it that The Fallen has some sort of powers. Powers never explained or referenced in the movie at all, shit just seemed to go up and then fall of their own accord.

Plot holes? Maybe. Better writing, surely. The attempts at humor with the twins, parents (esp the mom) and the parachute fart were just plain bad.

[magjipro]

Need I remind you all with the original transformers there were always doubles of the same characters?????!!!!

Starscream, Thundercracker, Warpfire

Bumble Bee, Cliff Jumper

and a whole lot more that I forgot the names.

Also it would take to long to explain every detail of the story, movie was long enough as it was.

I believe it's been mentioned that Devastator appears to be in two places at once, but I don't think that's right. I thought that Devastator had actually come apart after the skirmish with the Twins and that what Bee was later fighting were more Constructions. Not sure though. part of the fun of watching it over and over again is figuring it out, actually. But it's not like each character doesn't have a distinguishing physical trait, whether it's wings, doors, or a paint job.

People are just cranky because it's disorienting. Suck it up! Robot war is hell!

[sora]

Need I remind you all with the original transformers there were always doubles of the same characters?????!!!!

Starscream, Thundercracker, Warpfire

Bumble Bee, Cliff Jumper

and a whole lot more that I forgot the names.

Also it would take to long to explain every detail of the story, movie was long enough as it was.

I used to love watching funny goofs G1 animators made, like "two Starscreams among Seekers" and "Galvatron searching Galvatron"..

[Trailbreaker]

-How did Megatron get to the Nemesis so fast?
-Twins vanishing at the end
-Wheelie vanishing
-Constructicons in 2 places at once
-The Blackout looking protoform that captured Sam's parents, suddenly it's Rampage holding them hostage.
-No explanation as to how Starscream got his tats.
-Does not explain how the relationship between Megs and the Fallen began (we shouldn't have to read the comics to learn that)
-Cut out Barricade, resulting in Alice being pointless.
-Never tells specifically who/what the Fallen is getting revenge on and why.

I could go on.

[scarey123]

i guess my 2 biggest wonders are

1. Why did the decepticons even take Sams parents, they were taken from France then at the start of the final fight poof they were delivered

2. Was that Jolt at the end helping with reviving Optimus? and where did he come from? Was there any other Autobots in the fight at the end that we were never introduced to?

[Trailbreaker]

i guess my 2 biggest wonders are

1. Why did the decepticons even take Sams parents, they were taken from France then at the start of the final fight poof they were delivered

2. Was that Jolt at the end helping with reviving Optimus? and where did he come from? Was there any other Autobots in the fight at the end that we were never introduced to?

Yes that was Jolt. He was featured before back at NEST standing in the background when the dudes came with their guns.

[MrX]

i guess my 2 biggest wonders are

1. Why did the decepticons even take Sams parents, they were taken from France then at the start of the final fight poof they were delivered

I would think leverage. "Surrender the Matrix or your Parents Die." or something like that.

[Trailbreaker]

Oh and I forgot to mention, they never actually show the Decepticons in the ocean constructing Megatron's new body. It was just, Here he is..."Ve need body!"...*rips poor little Constructicon*....*zap with AllSpark shard*...BAM, MEGATRON! Uhh wait, how did Megatron suddenly have a new body when they zapped him? I mean, at least cut to another scene and have the building process off camera.

Oh, and notice how they completely ignored the idea of Megatron and Optimus being brothers.

[MrX]

-How did Megatron get to the Nemesis so fast?
-Twins vanishing at the end
-Wheelie vanishing
-Constructicons in 2 places at once
-The Blackout looking protoform that captured Sam's parents, suddenly it's Rampage holding them hostage.
-No explanation as to how Starscream got his tats.
-Does not explain how the relationship between Megs and the Fallen began (we shouldn't have to read the comics to learn that)
-Cut out Barricade, resulting in Alice being pointless.
-Never tells specifically who/what the Fallen is getting revenge on and why.

I could go on.

-Space bridge maybe?
-No Idea about the twins.
-Wheelie said "Screw this." and Hid somewhere?
-The Blackout lookalike may have captured Sam's Parents But they could have been Transported by Rampage.
-Can't answer that one.
-Can't answer that one either.
-Alice kind of reminded me of the TX only done better.
-I think the Fallens was getting Revenge on the other Primes and what better way than to destroy the planet they sacrificed themselves to protect?

Was any of this helpfull?

[nelson]

Citizen Kane has a plot hole....

[Inflataman]

This movie is not Citezen Kane. Anyway I think those are more goofs than plot holes a plot hole would be if the decepticons used the shard to revive Megatron. Why couldn't Sam use his to revive Optimus.

[MrX]

This movie is not Citezen Kane. Anyway I think those are more goofs than plot holes a plot hole would be if the decepticons used the shard to revive Megatron. Why couldn't Sam use his to revive Optimus.

I think He lost it when he woke up Jetfire. And his peice was much smaller than the one used to revive Megatron so probably not as powerfull. Also he didn't know he could have revived Optimus until after Jetfire told him.

[RavingDork]

-How did Megatron get to the Nemesis so fast?
-Twins vanishing at the end
-Wheelie vanishing
-Constructicons in 2 places at once
-The Blackout looking protoform that captured Sam's parents, suddenly it's Rampage holding them hostage.
-No explanation as to how Starscream got his tats.
-Does not explain how the relationship between Megs and the Fallen began (we shouldn't have to read the comics to learn that)
-Cut out Barricade, resulting in Alice being pointless.
-Never tells specifically who/what the Fallen is getting revenge on and why.

I could go on.

These really aren't plot holes. A good plot hole is like in the first movie: If the decepticons could hack any computer in the world, why not hack a bank and then buy the map/glasses off of E-bay?

-How did Megatron get to the Nemesis so fast?
He didn't. The decepticons had an alien base made out of the remains of one of the carriers. He never left the planet. He went to their hidden base.
-Twins vanishing at the end
One twin shot the other in the face. They obviously retreated from the battle as they were suffering from serious damage (and loss of pride).
-Wheelie vanishing
He was too small to be meaningful to the fight and he knew it. He was probably hiding. (After all, look what happened to that tiny bike bot chick, she got taken out in one shot.)
-Constructicons in 2 places at once
*rolls eyes* Constructicons were numerous and could combine and come apart. They were everywhere. It's easy for them to be in two places at once.
-The Blackout looking protoform that captured Sam's parents, suddenly it's Rampage holding them hostage.
Um, he handed them off to someone else so he could fight. Duh.
-No explanation as to how Starscream got his tats.
Does there really need to be? He applied them himself most likely.
-Does not explain how the relationship between Megs and the Fallen began (we shouldn't have to read the comics to learn that)
How does it not explain it? The Fallen is Megatron's lord and master (whereas Megatron is more like a military general). The've always been in cohoots. It's just not mentioned int he first move (very much like the EMperor isn't really mentioned in Episode 4 of Star Wars).
-Cut out Barricade, resulting in Alice being pointless.
Barricade had nothing to do with Alice (though her appearance in the movie was quite pointless). I know people are saying that barricade made her or some such thing, but there are things in the movie that outright contradict that possibility.
-Never tells specifically who/what the Fallen is getting revenge on and why.
Isn't it obvious? He's getting revenge on the Primes who scarficed themselves to protect the earth. What better way than to have revenge than to destroy the earth?

Please. Do go on. *rolls eyes*

[berrycoolz]

These really aren't plot holes. A good plot hole is like in the first movie: If the decepticons could hack any computer in the world, why not hack a bank and then buy the map/glasses off of E-bay?

-How did Megatron get to the Nemesis so fast?
He didn't. The decepticons had an alien base made out of the remains of one of the carriers. He never left the planet. He went to their hidden base.
-Twins vanishing at the end
One twin shot the other in the face. They obviously retreated from the battle as they were suffering from serious damage (and loss of pride).
-Wheelie vanishing
He was too small to be meaningful to the fight and he knew it. He was probably hiding. (After all, look what happened to that tiny bike bot chick, she got taken out in one shot.)
-Constructicons in 2 places at once
*rolls eyes* Constructicons were numerous and could combine and come apart. They were everywhere. It's easy for them to be in two places at once.
-The Blackout looking protoform that captured Sam's parents, suddenly it's Rampage holding them hostage.
Um, he handed them off to someone else so he could fight. Duh.
-No explanation as to how Starscream got his tats.
Does there really need to be? He applied them himself most likely.
-Does not explain how the relationship between Megs and the Fallen began (we shouldn't have to read the comics to learn that)
How does it not explain it? The Fallen is Megatron's lord and master (whereas Megatron is more like a military general). The've always been in cohoots. It's just not mentioned int he first move (very much like the EMperor isn't really mentioned in Episode 4 of Star Wars).
-Cut out Barricade, resulting in Alice being pointless.
Barricade had nothing to do with Alice (though her appearance in the movie was quite pointless). I know people are saying that barricade made her or some such thing, but there are things in the movie that outright contradict that possibility.
-Never tells specifically who/what the Fallen is getting revenge on and why.
Isn't it obvious? He's getting revenge on the Primes who scarficed themselves to protect the earth. What better way than to have revenge than to destroy the earth?

Please. Do go on. *rolls eyes*

I wonder if you really know what you are talking about. Because some of those answers don't really make any sense.

-Megatron does go to the Nemesis.

-What movie were you watching. Did you not clearly see LONG HAUL, MIXMASTER during the desert battle, while DEVASTAOR was climbing the pyramids.

-Barricade was suppose to be in the movie, but was cut out. He was suppose to be teamed up with Alice.

and what's with the "rolls eyes" thing.. psh!

[Trailbreaker]

Maybe I posted in the wrong thread.