What was the point of Alice/The Pretender??

[Prime9]

and how does Bumblebee not know she is a decepticon? Ironhide and the other Autobots could sense/smell Decepticons a mile away.

There was honestly NO point to having her in the movie. If Transformers can turn into humans what is the point in turning into vehicles?

[banandy]

Word.

[cdubya]

I agree...she sat INSIDE bumblebee and nothing??

[RyanCz1]

To add unnecessary time. Should have cut that whole segment out.

[darthrage]

BB knew that she there was something wrong with her. But he also know that with communication deficiencies, there would be no way to explain it to him without him freaking out.

So the best way would be just to get her out of the car in whatever creative way possible

[cdubya]

BB knew that she there was something wrong with her. But he also know that with communication deficiencies, there would be no way to explain it to him without him freaking out.

So the best way would be just to get her out of the car in whatever creative way possible

I agree to a certain extent. He was playing the songs thru the radio, calling him a cheat and calling her "superfreak" so he couldve played something like Ojays - Backstabbers, LMAO:lol

[BorrowedTime]

Ummm... were we watching the same movie?

I think Bumblebee definitely knew she was a D-con. As Darthrage pointed out, either his inability to speak, or a desire to keep the situation from going really badly, he tried to communicate Alice's origins more subtly.

The choice of music he played reflected that. The theme from Jaws, and "Super Freak" by Rick James were both hints to Sam. Then by manipulating the chair to slam her into the dash, and then spraying her with that green liquid. Bee was trying to warn Sam from the moment she got in the car.

[5 Star General]

BB knew that she there was something wrong with her. But he also know that with communication deficiencies, there would be no way to explain it to him without him freaking out.

So the best way would be just to get her out of the car in whatever creative way possible

thanks--school these youngster--BB is young son, maybe BB didnt detect a heart---yeah yeah BB is young--u realized that same had to yell for him when the kitchen bots attacked--WTF BB are u deaf?--iron hide is a born soldier--but he doesn't mean he can literally smell them as in odor---do they have sweat glands?...maybe he detects electrical signal--he and rachet cause rachet said in TF1 "i sense the decep are mobilizing "--Anyway--Alice purpose was to get into sam;s head without detection from other human authorities--starscream knows the humans have fire power--they killed Meg--but she failed since makeala (sp) came in a nik of time-----that is why as soons as they left the library--"grindor" was there----guess she told him she failed

nowi havnt seen the movie--im jus going by ads and comic book..lol

[Firefrost]

Once again, it was eye candy, which this film was.

[redqueenar]

A counter-point to Mikaela?

[banandy]

Once again, it was eye candy, which this film was.

Eye candy, fine - but that doesn't mean she had to be a decepticon!

[Mr.Funtastic]

Once again, it was eye candy, which this film was.

Damn str8 negro. 111 ya feel me?

[swishbig]

BB knew that she there was something wrong with her. But he also know that with communication deficiencies, there would be no way to explain it to him without him freaking out.

So the best way would be just to get her out of the car in whatever creative way possible

Yeah I think you're right, and I couldn't say any better!

[taybrian1]

I still think it's to add to the danger of them. It's a bit unnerving to think they could be around us. It's even worse when they could actually become one of us. Think about it. She was way more dangerous than any of the other Decepticons because she actually got close. She wasn't supposed to kill him, so that's why she didn't.

[Trailbreaker]

When I heard about Alice I was looking forward to seeing what they could dish out but after seeing the movie I can't seem to find what her role was. She doesn't even associate with other Decepticons! She was just...there.

[wingzero]

and how does Bumblebee not know she is a decepticon? Ironhide and the other Autobots could sense/smell Decepticons a mile away.

There was honestly NO point to having her in the movie. If Transformers can turn into humans what is the point in turning into vehicles?

Nonsense.

1) Pretenders do appear in the original animated series and comics
2) Having a Pretender, Insecticons, Devastator is a way to show the general public unaware of Transformers franchise characters and mythology how many forms and sizes the aliens can have and how much menacing they are. It's kinda obvious, do you need it to be explained?

You should read some of the source material to understand why the Pretenders exist. There have been some well written stories about Pretenders that explain the reasons why they wanted to mimic humans, you know.

You can start looking here:

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http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Pretender
Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity

Super-God Masterforce cartoon

Eight thousand years ago, a starship containing the Autobot Pretenders Metalhawk, Lander, Diver and Phoenix pursued the Decepticon Pretenders Blood, Dauros and Gilmer to neolithic-era Earth, where they crashed. Using their Pretender abilities, the Autobots adopted the form of humans. They transformed the very structure of their bodies into an organic equivalent, shrinking down to normal human size to hide in plain sight among burgeoning humanity.

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Dreamwave Generation 1 comics

Pretender technology was originally developed as a form of additional body armour. Pretender shells can enhance their wearer’s physical strength and resistance to damage. More advanced shell designs could shrink down to human size and enable their wearer to blend into Earth society unnoticed.



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IDW Generation 1 comics

The technology was the invention of the Decepticon Thunderwing, and used living tissue painfully culled from live (quite possibly unwilling) subjects to create a powerful symbiotic, living carapace. The goal of this technology was to allow Transformers to survive an impending environmental collapse on their home planet, Cybertron. Even Megatron rejected the concept as unnatural and repulsive. Both cases where the technology was implemented ended in disaster as the melding of the robot's mind with the shell was improperly aligned or hastily executed.

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Note

Humanoid Pretenders' outer shells can be classified into three types at least. Human shells with thermostatic plating such as Cloudburst's are Space-Defense Pretender Shells. Monstrous humanoid shells like Bomb-Burst's are called Predator-Class Pretender Shells. While shells like Bludgeon's are Warrior-Grade Pretender Shells.[2]



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[Mr.Funtastic]

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