Verdict

[UltimatePrime]

I give it a 9/10 I really enjoyed it in Imax. I will see it again this weekend regular, The twins were a little annoying and most of the sexual stuff (minus Megan) could have been left out, but over all it was great.

I totally agree with this! I gave it 8/10 though.
I liked the twins, they were funny. But I can see how they'd get on some peoples nerves. But I didn't like how they just disappeared.
I agree that most of the sexual stuff could have been left out, and some of the language. It went a bit overboard this time around. And too much, can put a damper on things, at least for me.
If it had been another movie, I may have rated it lower or walked out. I don't know. If there is nothing else in the film worth staying for then yeah. But with these films, I go for the Transformers. That's what I think 95% of the movie-goers are going for. I just would like to see less of the other stuff in T3 and more of the bots and their story and development.

I wasn't sure how I felt about Megatron having his own leader/boss guy.
It just made him seem less frightening to me somehow that he has someone to answer to. :\
Was it like that in the original series? Just curious.

But the action, was great! Optimus was excellent! I loved that he was more kick-ass and stonger in this one!
But MORE Bumblebee! More Ratchet! More Ironhide! More Optimus!

[Bumblebee_Girl_Inara]

My verdict? Best Movie Ever! There must be a third there better be a third there has to be a third or I will die jk jk loved the movie plz plz plz make a third Michael Bay you are awesome!

[transfan4life]

I think we got you point after 3 of the same post.

Mindless cursing? Is it me or did you forget the first movie had the word "fuck" in it for no reason at all?

wow. could you imagine if the first had the F word in it? hah! talk about people hating MB... that would be some real hater kool aid for people to sip on. and the first one only had like one major part that was distasteful. Jaz's introduction... had to be the worst transformer introduction ever. and we wont even talk about the whole "black" autobot thing lol.... and the first one when sam was running away from barricade he was like "shit,shit,shit,shit, etc" that was hilarious and in good taste. had i been in that situation i would have probably said more than that. so kudos to MB for not putting more cussing in the first one heh. but with the first one the action was so intense and you didnt notice it too much because you werent focused on the dialogue... in the second one they actually slowed the action down in parts and made sure the dialogue was the first thing you took notice of. just distatsefully done imo. it was getting pretty close to the whole "mindless" thing. if it would have been much more i woulda had to take my kids out. but i didnt so i wouldnt say it was mindless. i had to turn the freakin thing into a lesson for my kids. but thats a whole 'nutha story.


p.s. dont forget even in the cartoon movie back in '86 they said "shit" one time right before unicron was gonna eat the planet spike was on and he was like "oh,shit"... not the best thing for kids to hear but tastefully done....woulda been a whole lot worse if it was me and i seen some huge freakin robot eating my planet lolololol

[warhawk]

thats the point though, transformers doesnt need the "mindless" raunch chatter. curse word after curse word and the stupid sexual crap was so tasteless it was out of line for this type of film. look alittle bit of cussin is like whatever but just saying it like your at a bar is another like this movie did knowing it didnt need it or the sexual content because they knew the fans who grew up to this were gonna bring there kids so that they could enjoy it together. very poor judgement on MB, STEVEN SPEILBERG TOO, AND THE WRITERS.

[Drake]

thats the point though, transformers doesnt need the "mindless" raunch chatter. curse word after curse word and the stupid sexual crap was so tasteless it was out of line for this type of film. look alittle bit of cussin is like whatever but just saying it like your at a bar is another like this movie did knowing it didnt need it or the sexual content because they knew the fans who grew up to this were gonna bring there kids so that they could enjoy it together. very poor judgement on MB, STEVEN SPEILBERG TOO, AND THE WRITERS.

But mass death is ok, then? Confused values, anyone?

[Hanna]

But mass death is ok, then? Confused values, anyone?

Drake

Not really confused if you think of our history. We have always had to fight for what we wanted, even ourselves. So violence that is defined with good and bad or right and wrong are acceptable. Its senseless violence that makes an American pause, ie. 9/11. Why did they all die? We got angry and started fighting what we perceived as a threat to us and it was accepted. But its to the point where it doesn't make sense anymore and thats why many are working to bring our boys and girls home. Nothing in reality is as clear cut as in the movies

As for America's problem with sex, we have always been a sexually repressed society, despite how you may argue against it, compared to the rest of the world we are. It comes from the beginning with the landing of the Puritans and bringing their ideology with them. Even though the religion doesn't exist as it once was or if at all, it had a profound influence on the american social and religious ideologies of today.

When you think of it this way it becomes a little clearer. Antiquated but clearer.


Anyway, I'm holding off my verdict till I see it on the 8th and get a chance to listen to the Q and A with Scott afterwards.

[transfan4life]

warhawk - believe me i totally understan where you are coming from


drake - mass death inst ok but like hanna said i dont know of a time when it wasnt in our history. even the bible is loaded with it.


hanna - cant wait to see what you think

[martinwellbourne]

Oh quit being so sanctimonious.

Would you let your kids watch the film?

[nelson]

Would you let your kids watch the film?

If they were under 13, no.

[martinwellbourne]

If they were under 13, no.

Interesting. So I take it that you don't believe it's a kid's film?

[nelson]

Interesting. So I take it that you don't believe it's a kid's film?

I read film ratings no matter what anyone says. And this film was PG-13 for language, crude and sexual material, and brief drug material.

[martinwellbourne]

I read film ratings no matter what anyone says. And this film was PG-13 for language, crude and sexual material, and brief drug material.

I see. So how about this?:

I just wanted something that would appeal to younger, younger kids, it seemed to really gravitate to those two characters.

Link to the horse's mouth: http://www.hollywoodoutbreak.com/200...-for-the-kids/

So what you're saying Nelson, is that tonally, there is a huge problem with this movie?

Then we agree.

[Drake]

warhawk - believe me i totally understan where you are coming from


drake - mass death inst ok but like hanna said i dont know of a time when it wasnt in our history. even the bible is loaded with it.


hanna - cant wait to see what you think

The bible is also loaded with sex. As is our history, moreso than war ever was. I don't get the point here.

And if you want to get biblical, murder violates one of the ten commandments. Vulgar language, with only one exception, does not.

Again, values are confused here, and I doubt you have any compelling evidence to prove otherwise.

And as Nelson said... it's NOT a kids movie... or else it'd be G or PG. Did Bay ever call it a kids movie? The writers? Paramount? Dreamworks? It was a kids movie in 1985. Different time, different people. It isn't now.

[BigFatVoice]

Did Bay ever call it a kids movie? The writers? Paramount? Dreamworks? It was a kids movie in 1985. Different time, different people. It isn't now.

Maybe you should listen to the audio in the link above.................

[wingzero]

Maybe you should listen to the audio in the link above.................

The kids Michael Bay created the movie for are in the 20s, 30s and 40s nowadays .. that is the only kids he would be really referring to.
Although Hasbro and Paramount might want Transformers movies to turn into Power Rangers style.. if that would ever happen then all viewers above 14years old would be lost forever. And the series would become a pathetic thing to watch.
Instead pushing the PG-13 envelope with a lot darker story and seriously brutal violence and death bodies in the next movie could bring in many more adults and many kids will stll watch it. I watched Poltergeist when I was 5.. and I am not a serial killer.
If kids get into trouble and become insane is not due to what they watch but their parents being bad parents and not talking with respect but considering them dumb just because they are small and so fragile and unable to understand, that is the wrong way to educate your children people. When I was a kid I was naive because many things I didn't know but I was able to grasp complex "for adults" things if only those were explained to me. That is the only real fact.

[nelson]

I see. So how about this?:



Link to the horse's mouth: http://www.hollywoodoutbreak.com/200...-for-the-kids/

So what you're saying Nelson, is that tonally, there is a huge problem with this movie?

Then we agree.

No. No problem.

Just that some material is not intended for kids under 13 without PARENTAL GUIDANCE.

Remember, for Bay (who's 44) a kid could probably mean a 16 yr-old.

[nelson]

Maybe you should listen to the audio in the link above.................

But he also said it was going to be a darker movie.

[martinwellbourne]

The kids Michael Bay created the movie for are in the 20s, 30s and 40s nowadays .. that is the only kids he would be really referring to.

Really?

I purely did it for kids, Young kids love these robots, because it makes it more accessible to them.

Link: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/transf...n/news/?a=8207

I knew there was something special when we tested it. It tested like 95 – really high. I was sitting in the test thinking..This is a stupid kids’ movie. Ok, kids will like it but this movies sucks! This is dumb. The kids like the jokes, whatever, this is a dumb movie…Then it came back with 95. Ok it’s a kids’ movie.

Link: http://www.yehey.com/Entertainment/M...aspx?id=241451

Feel free to look around the web, you'll find quotes like that everywhere.

It's a kids movie, FULL of inappropriate "humour".

Deal with it.

P.S. Nelson - Bay "could probably mean a 16 yr-old"? Weak dude, weak. Why don't you ask him what he meant?

[alexsm]

Some people here are taking some things to seriously... The twins where funny, and in my country someone at 15-16 is still a kid for everyone except himself.

[nelson]

Deal with it.

You're the one who's having more problems than anyone around here.

What is your purpose in the forums? To start shit over shit that's irrelevant and that 3 people at AICN have problems with?

The movie is done. People liked it. Some didn't. Why is that so hard to understand?

[Drake]

You're the one who's having more problems than anyone around here.

What is your purpose in the forums? To start shit over shit that's irrelevant and that 3 people at AICN have problems with?

The movie is done. People liked it. Some didn't. Why is that so hard to understand?

Because you killed Carl. That's the purpose.

[ChozoGhost87]

Because you killed Carl. That's the purpose.

Truth.

[wingzero]

Really?


Link: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/transf...n/news/?a=8207


Link: http://www.yehey.com/Entertainment/M...aspx?id=241451

Feel free to look around the web, you'll find quotes like that everywhere.

It's a kids movie, FULL of inappropriate "humour".

Deal with it.

P.S. Nelson - Bay "could probably mean a 16 yr-old"? Weak dude, weak. Why don't you ask him what he meant?

You are unfair. When you quote something that Michael Bay said (but this applies quoting anyone else) then you should quote the complete sentence and not take it out of context just to prove your wrong point.
Michael Bay was referring to the Twins characters that he wanted for young kids there. He wasn't referring to the whole movie being designed for little kids.
The movie is darker although not as much as I would have liked to see but there is still hope that a Director's Cut might increase the dark factor of the movie a bit (only Mr.Bay knows what the deleted scenes contain---with BDLive feature one of the first movie deleted scenes that can now be played shows the death of the soldier hit by Scorponok.. that scene if re-integrated in the movie would up the dark factor for sure). And anyway there is now plenty of time for Mr.Bay to make the 3rd movie brutal, cruel and so dark to push the PG-13 envelope to the limit. And I hope he will do that despite pressure from Hasbro and Paramount to turn the franchise into a lame Power Rangers thing--if that would ever happen the movies wouldn't be true to the source material anymore and all teenagers and adult viewers would be lost forever. Transformers is a dark sci-fi series, the original source material contains plenty of dark sci-fi absolutely serious elements.

[BigFatVoice]

Why will noone admit problems with the film?........... it was aimed at children but not fit for them to watch, and the writer also had problems with it. Can noone here admit that?????? This is a scary place.

[BigFatVoice]

Michael Bay was referring to the Twins characters that he wanted for young kids there. He wasn't referring to the whole movie being designed for little kids.

:wtf