your verdict on the movie?
taking in everything dont just suck arse pls! story plot action effects acting etc
Verdict
your verdict on the movie?
taking in everything dont just suck arse pls! story plot action effects acting etc
Last edited by chatterbox; 06-24-2009 at 05:37 AM.
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tear* my thread was stickied, my very first one gosh
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9 / 10
It had everything I had hoped it would have.
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First Transformers movie was great as it was!
But part two was just Mindblowing and Amazing!
Keep it coming Mr. Bay!!!!
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The forest fight scene was easily the best thing I have ever seen on a movie screen in my 28 years. 10/10 IMO.
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Damn straight!! The only thing that I regret that OP's battle with the fallen is too damn quick. Overall, its effing awesomeOriginally Posted by evergamer
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I have to say I really liked this film, but there were some bad points that affected my personal opinion, maybe not so much other people, so I'm gonna give it an 8/10.
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AWESOME!! and tf3 is gonna rule!
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I give it a solid 9. It lost a point because my friends tore it apart the remainder of the night and they had some good points that I missed and they are not obsessed.
"...take it away but I want more and more, one day I'm gonna lose the war."
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Cosign, +1..
they couldve taken the desert final fight scene when the troops were waiting for Sam and Mikaela(sp), make that shorter, and made the OP/Fallen fight longer.
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why so many curse words!!?? no need for all the sexual themes and all the language. transformers doesnt need the curse words or the adult content to bring in the adult fans. we grew up to none of that and it doesnt fit this kinda genre. i took my daughter to see it but half the time she was coverin her ears and eyes because of some of the content. transformers is great without all the cursing and sexual themes. the action and story line are more than enough to carry this film without all the useless "adult" content.
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Prude
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prude?? no just dont need curse words or sexual behavior for a movie targeted towards kids! transformers was never meant to be about how the humans live their daily lives, its about the war between "transformers" not who is gettin laid tonight!
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I kind of agree with you there but I think they angled it towards a broader audience and tried to make it cool. Kids already know this stuff and see it on a daily basis. Spongebob is a f**ked up show if your listening in the background and not watching it. I agree the film had a little much, but I liked it and the kids will like it either way. It was Pg-13 all the way, that rating alone is starting to get a little heavy.
"...take it away but I want more and more, one day I'm gonna lose the war."
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Wheelie humps Megan Fox's leg and u see 2 giant wrecking balls under a robot. Big deal. She must not watch much TV... the crap on there these days is. ridiculous
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dont forget the buttcheeks hanging out while she was on the motorcycle..... the almost lap dance at the party...the thong that the terminator chick had on while she was sloooowy going over Sam... and how could you forget about the 2 seperate dog humping incidents?!?!? not much like that on TV for little children unless they are watching animal planet hah! i havent seen spongebob hump anything lately....
good stuff justin... one thing.. did you see that Meagan had some serious lip work done? i thoguht they were better the first time but i dont care for angela jolie either :P
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haha not going to lie man, megan fox was just a bonus to the film. I really just enjoyed the CG. Like im a fan for cgi and that movie was where it was at for me. And the other terminator girl was just hot but kinda of a blur in the movie to like wtf are you doing in here. But then again , there trying to kill him / find sam. Which kinda made a little no sense to where they wanted to find him for his knowledge on the cube but yet there trying to kill him.
This has nothing to do with transformers but if you like cgi and all that . Check out the trailer for 2012. Looks out of this world. AMAZING CGI thats being done to that film.
But yea. I really just didn't want to leave the theater. I want more. But hopefully the next film will be as good or better and also make those issues where people want more story then just explosions and sexual comedy.
And the movie is rated PG-13. And if you really think about it, people that are 16 to 22 or so.( Its all a marketing side to where "megan fox looking sexy ona bike" brings in guys like me.lol or lesbians to lol ) Will go out and see that movie more then the adults due to that movie is in this time period then when you or anyone else that grew up with the tv. Not to say there not trying to keep there older audience or anything. Just saying that they'l get more traffic from us compared to the older crowd. Which were that sexual side to where people my age enjoy that stuff.
So yea. Just to say i'm not the best writer or anything like that. So if something don't make sense my bad lol
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I cannot understand those who like special effects / action films not liking this movie. The movie is so good it doesn't need a top grade storyline. It's like someone watching a porno movie and complaining that it had no storyline.
I will quote a previous post regarding the charactor Soundwave below:
I also think the movie was incredible. Better action than the first.
However, as a longtime Soundwave 'fanboy' ( just joking ) , I have some serious issues with the voice he was given.
Before I go into this, first, let me say that I think his new role as a satellite was absolutely perfect.
In the first gen cartoons, Soundwave and his cassette tapes, Ravage etc were an extremely important and prominent part of the Decepticon's successful advances on the Autobots.
I would like to see the third film feature more of this. Especially in the reproduction of some of the prime elements that fans love about the original Soundwave, such as the: "ravage eject" when he shot out ravage.. or even sent two, "ravage, Lazerbeak, eject"
The thing about the cartoon is that many fans who preferred the Autobots, in general, still looked at a Decepticon charactor such as Soundwave as one of the coolest.
The question is: What were Soundwaves cool factors?
1) FIGHTER?
Although he was a good fighter in the cartoon, there was nothing really that special about his fighting skills. I didn't even mind that the movie has him sat in space, because his combat skills were never that important in the cartoon either.
2) STEALTHY EAVESDROPPER
Again, I think they got this right in the movie. Soundwave's cool stealthy infiltration abilities were one factor that made him appeal to so many people. Actually, his role in the movie as a Satellite is even better than the cartoon's tape recorder. It is a more powerful role.
3) VOICE
I can understand a person, who did not grow up with the first gen cartoons, complaining about certain forum members being too fussed about 'correct' voices. I also believe that Revenge Of The Fallen movie generallly is very good on voices and that most charactors sound better than their originals.
I also like the voice that Soundwave has in this movie. So I am not making an issue about whether his voice is good or bad.
However, I think that out of all the Transformers, Soundwave having ANY voice but his original voice has lost out on one of the coolest, if not THE coolest, things about the original Soundwave.
The original voice perfectly complemented the name, Soundwave, and complemented his: 'visual', 'radio wave', 'sound wave' and 'computer' infiltration roles.
His original cool voice was extremely 'metalic' and 'robotic', and suggests he is closer to 'machine codes' than any other Transformers.
His original tone of voice also dramatically changed pitch every few sentences. That frequent 'tone alteration' was another unique signature element that perfectly suited his name: 'Soundwave'. It almost sounded as if his voice tone was regularly 'changing frequencies' or 'locking onto a new channel'.
On top of this, that 'tone changing' feature was one of the most 'sickest' and coolest elements.
So again, it's not about whether or not the new film gave Soundwave a good voice. It's about how much opportunity for maximum COOLNESS that was lost:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWb43IB3W-c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ClBx...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz0xV...eature=related
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I saw the film today, in the portuguese theaters.
For me, is superior to the first one.
Bay really did it this time!
But the only thing i may say, not a critic, but a observation, Arcee and the other motocycles could be more explore. Bee and the twins appear more than they do.
Thanks Bay for the overwhelming experience in this movie.
I cryed, suffer, and Prime kicks ass!!
THANK YOU BAY!
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Love the movie.
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10/10 the best action film I have seen in a long time, maybe th ebes. The forest battle was amazing.
"Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing." - Optimus Prime
Punk ass decepticons
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An 8.
Just about equal to the original. I enjoyed it despite feeling a bit overwhelmed at the end.
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I give it a 9/10. It was everything I wanted and some more. But with all the same bots here and some bots just not showing up again I couldnt give it a 10.
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best sorry mispelled
"Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing." - Optimus Prime
Punk ass decepticons
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Well, you said review so I'm guessing we can make these actually longer than what most people are doing with just one sentence, plus in the "rate the movie" forum they asked for some depth what and why we thought about certain aspects.
Story (8/10) -
I liked the story; I remember the mood of the theater during the forest scene and as soon as Optimus got killed, you could tell people were shocked. Definitely liked the Matrix of Leadership being brought into play like it was in the cartoon, although in a different way.
Setting (10/10) -
Some of the most beautiful filming I have ever seen. Shots that were once unheard of were shot during this movie, nearly the whole Egyptian setting was amazing. I actually verbally worded to my friend that "you don't see shots in movies like this, that's amazing." Some of the shots involving the military were incredible as well, I can't even imagine how much it would have cost if there wasn't military support for this movie.
Characters:
Sam (9/10) -
I think Shia did an even better job of acting during this film. His relationship with Megan Fox in the movie is great, yet not over-done to the point where we forget it's all about the robots. The scene where was Sam was dead and Mikaela was yelling at him was great, you actually got a the feeling of empathy for the situation. Sam's relationship with Bumblebee and vice versa is incredible. When Sam is talking to Bumblebee during the campfire scene you actually get a feel for how much they mean to each other. Seeing Sam get killed and then Bumblebee rushing over to them and Bumblebee falling to his knees, definitely gave me that feeling of sadness where in The Patriot, Mel Gibson's son is killed in front of him. I don't think a lot of people realize how hard it is to act like you are going crazy such as while he was in school. The eye twitching, the studdering, and the rapid speech aren't easy things but I think Shia pulled it off great.
Mikaela (9/10) -
I think Megan Fox's character Mikaela was implemented into the movie very well. I was a little concerned how she would be used in the movie with her new "hottest girl in the universe" title. But she wasn't over-done and I was really happy about that. The Sam and Mikaela relationship gives a witty/loving feel to parts of the movie where it was definitely needed, i.e. little quips throughout the movie about loyalty, the campfire scene, and the "I love you" scene. For what she was asked to do, I think she did a great job at it.
Sam's Parents (10/10) -
Definitely funny. I think some of the funniest moments in the film are due to this couple. The scene where Sam's father is proclaiming that they are all going together was really well acted by Kevin Dunn.
Misc Human Characters (8/10) -
John Turturro was good, just like usual. Ramon Rodriquez's character Leo made for some good laughs, I don't think he was essential to the story in any way but he was a fun addition for the small part he played. The military characters did their part well, nothing special from my point of view. Isabel Lucas's character Alice is a smokin' hottie, and that's all I think she is really there for, just some added drama and it ended up involving some action. Who would have thought?
Optimus (9/10) -
I give him a 9 simply because he wasn't actually there for half of the movie, but when he was there he didn't disappoint at all. The forest fight scene...I don't really even know what to say about that. Epic. That's about the only word I can think of. When Optimus said "I'll take you all on!", I actually got a weird feeling in me that I have never gotten from a movie before, I felt like standing up and yelling out-loud for Optimus to beat their asses like it was live or something and he needed some people to root him on (even though we know most every person was already rooting for him simply because he is Optimus Prime) like it was a sporting event and he was the underdog athlete that everyone wanted to win. After he died and was brought back to the military base, I actually laughed when they just dropped him. It's not like he was being dropped out of a plane, it was a helicopter, they are used for dropping things off carefully. If I was an autobot and I saw that I would be pissed they just dropped my dead leader from 100 ft onto an airstrip. Oh well, no big deal with that, just thought it was funny when it definitely shouldn't have been. The combo with Jetfire was cool, a nice shout-out to the cartoon except this round Jetfire killed himself to combine where in the cartoon that wasn't the fact. I was hoping the fight with the Fallen would have lasted a little longer, could have been an amazing fight. Plus I would have liked to have seen another 1 on 1 with Megatron and the newly reborn Optimus. During the fight with the Fallen and Megatron where Optimus was whooping Megatron's ass, I was happy to see his butt kicked. But I would have liked to have seen Optimus just pound him into the ground. No one else involved, just Optimus beating the crap out of him. I was hoping to see the scene from the 1986 animated movie where Megatron is begging for mercy and Optimus says, "I thought you were made of sterner stuff!" while continuing to beat him to a pulp. The Optimus dialogue was kinda off and on I think. Some of the dialogue sounded like good ol' Optimus Prime, but then at some points his one-liners would just sound kind of funny. I also wish there could have been more common dialogue from Optimus than just the beginning and end of the movie, such as actual conversation with the other autobots and not just one-liners. Other than that, you can't get enough of Optimus Prime.
Bumblebee (9/10) -
Bumblee is great, always has been. His interactions with Sam are really good, it gives you the real feeling of friendship and compasion between the two of them. I was starting to worry if Bumblebee wasn't going to get his fair share of butt-kicking in as the movie drew closer towards the end, but I was glad to see he got it in fighting some random decepticon that I still don't know the name of (I'll discuss that later). The fight scene he has was in was very well done but some of the moves and such were too much of a blur to actually comprehend and appreciate, the slow motion helped it out some.
Ironhide, Sideswipe, Jetfire, Arcee, Ratchet (6/10) -
I gave this the rating I did because I think there was so much more potential for the characters in this movie. I really REALLY liked the character Sideswipe and I wanted to see him with some 1 on 1 action (opening scene didn't count) as well as a lot more dialogue. I really liked the way he sounded, I just wish he got more dialogue. Ironhide wasn't a big player, same with Ratchet. I like the addition of Arcee to the group as she is the only female autobot, but she still didn't really have a major part. But I can see that since she really didn't have a major part in any of the cartoons as well. She was always just kind of..."there", not really there. Jetfire was changed a lot from the cartoon, liked his part as an old man. Definitely liked the hook-up with Optimus at the end as a shout out to the cartoon. I wish every autobot had as much dialogue as Jetfire. When you think about it, he talked more than any other autobot throughout the whole movie, and he was in it for half the time. Maybe it's just me and my relation to the old cartoon where there was A LOT of dialogue between the autobots, but I think more dialogue between the autobots would have really made this one in a million. Maybe next film? Oh well, no harm done.
Jolt (0/10) -
Sorry but I had to throw him in here. He wasn't there, then he was there, then you didn't see him for a while, then he was in the desert helping Optimus link with Jetfire. If you don't know who I'm talking about, its the blue autobot who had electricity sparking from his hands in some scenes. Looked like a really cool character, but honestly I wish he wasn't there. He didn't say a word, no one even mentioned his existence or even his name. I just don't see a point in having him there if his whole point in the movie was to have him help link Optimus and Jetfire. :wtf
Skids and Mudflap (5/10) -
What can I say, Skids and Mudflap add SOME fun to the movie. Their comments like "bitch-ass" and calling Leo a "pussy" got some laughs, but overall I think their antics were taken a little too far. Not gonna lie, they seemed pretty racist, but maybe that's what added to the humor of them. I don't really understand why they of all people had the second most dialogue of any of the autobots behind Jetfire. Really? Skids and Mudflap with that much dialogue? I think maybe if they cut their dialogue in half their effect would have been much better on the audience. I honestly would have much rather listened to the NEST group (Ironhide, Arcee, Sideswipe, Ratchet, and Jolt) talk about anything than listen to Skids and Mudflap get into twin fights. This smilie directly relates to my feeling about the over-use of the twins (beating a dead horse in the balls repeatedly).:deadhorse1:
Megatron (8/10) -
Gotta love some Megatron. I like his new transformation into a tank, it gets closer to his original transformation when he could transform into a stationary cannon. For some reason I didn't get that genuine sense of evil this time around from Megatron. Loved the forest scene. Liked the dialogie for the most part. I don't know, overall he was good, there was just something missing this time around.
Starscream (8/10) -
Oh Starscream, when will you just betray Megatron already?! I finally thought it was going to happen at the end of the movie when Megatron got his ass kicked through some walls and he yelled out for Starscream. I wanted Starscream to come over to him and make fun of him and kick him while we was on the ground like the 1986 animated movie. Maybe beat the crap out of him more, and then leave him to die. The forest scene was great from all who were in it. I don't know, maybe it's just me but I didn't get much of a feeling of evil from Starscream either. His parts in the movie were done well, nothing really to complain about.
The Fallen (8/10) -
Reminded me a lot of Darth Sidious from Star Wars. The evil master of the evil apprentice. Had one of the coolest moments in the movie (I think) where he was on top of the pyramid and pulled all of the military vehicles towards him, and then just dropped them. Incredible shot and CGI. I think he could have been utilized a lot more in the final battle with Optimus, that could have really shaped up into a fight just as good as the forest scene.
Contructicons/Devastator (7/10) -
Ok Constructicons, you confuse me. I know you transform into Devastator, but is it just me or were other people confused that there were two construction vehicles that werent part of Devastator? The front plow that let out Sam's parents/fought Bumblebee and the giant green dump truck that could be seen fighting the military away from Devastator. Yeah, maybe I'm wrong but that confused me. Devastator is a big bad beast of a decepticon and I feel like he is THE greatest achievement CGI has ever accomplished, I just wish we could have seen his full potential. Yeah he sucked up some stuff and he beat the crap out of the pyramid, but some Autobot vs Devastator action would have been sweet (I don't count Skids and Mudflap).
Soundwave and Ravage (8/10) -
I give him an 8 simply because he wasn't used a lot. I love Soundwave, always have, and I think Michael Bay and the writers did nearly all that they could do to bring him into the movie. You can't make him a boombox like in the old cartoon, and I think a satellite is a good idea since Soundwave was the decepticons main transmissions and communications guy in the cartoon and thats exactly what a satellite does-tranmissions and communications. Not gonna lie, it felt great to here that monotone voice again. Ravage is a classic character, I liked how he came out of Soundwave just like in the cartoon. He had his moments that were cool, not much you can really ask from robotic tiger. His best scene was probably when Bumblebee ripped out his spine, sorry Ravage.
Random Decepticons (4/10) -
Here im not discussing the decepticons that flew down just for the final battle. Im talking about the random decepticons that actually took the form of a human vehicle but yet we had no idea who they actually were. In the scene where Mikaela and Sam run up a small thing of stairs in the Egyptian battle scene, there is a yellowish orangeish decepticon with what appears to be a ball and chain weapon that hits the stairs right after they run up them, I have no idea who this is. In one scene you actually see Bonecrusher from the first movie driving in his vehicle form through the fray of battle. Didn't he get killed? How did he come back? The Audi R8 Sideways, come on...that fight between Sideswipe and Sideways could have been awesome, but yet he got cut in half like a pansy within 2 minutes from when he started running. Whatever happened to Barricade? He wasn't killed in the first movie. Scorpinok made his appearance for a less than 30 seconds and did some damage. Wheelie, well...nothing to really even say about Wheelie. I guess my main thing here is the possibilities that could have been made from these additional decepticons and the questions that were left from the ones who didn't really seem to have a place there. All in all these characters weren't bad by any means, they just weren't anything special.
All in all, this movie was great. I have seen it in IMAX twice, once at the midnight showing and once in the morning after with my dad. I have never watched a movie and been so drawn in like I was in this movie. I would literally have to remind myself to breathe at some points. I bought popcorn, and I couldn't even take a bite the whole movie I was so focused in. Some moments left me with confusion, but no where close to the amount that left me saying "did that really just happen?", or "holy $^!7 that was awesome!!!" The movie left me thinking about transformers for the next few hours before I went to bed, it actually took a couple hours because the adrenaline was still rushing and I couldn't focus on sleeping. After seeing it the second time, I am to the point where I drove by a yellow construction vehicle on my way home and the first thing I expected to see it do was transform. Then I had to pop back in reality and realize nothing cool like that ever happens haha. All in all, I give this movie a 8/10. No one does action like Michael Bay, and that will stand until the release of Transformers 3, when he outdoes himself again. This movie should have no competition for the Oscar for Best Special Effects. I hope the best for this movie I really do, it was a ton of fun to see, especially on IMAX. If you haven't seen it one IMAX, you definitely should, it's worth every penny to see it like that at least once. I don't know if you read any of these comments Michael Bay, but keep up the good work. Maybe a lil more dialogue and involvement from the full cast of autobots next time? Oh well, as a Transformers fan my whole life, I think you have done the name proud. Thanks for another awesome experience.
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