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    Here's a question for everyone.

    If NEST was created for autobots and humans to work together, to find and eradicate the decepticon presence, then why not use Agent Simmons?

    He's so freakin useful in the movie, he knows certain things and he still has something.....that makes him say, "Don't tell my mother....."

    It's weird that they didn't recruit him into the new unit. I know that sector 7 was disbanded and all the files were most likely released to the new unit, but still....

    This was probably answered or atleast brought up, for that I'm sorry. (please, be gentle)
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    And, please, no answers based on the novel. 14 views, and no one replied?
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    Sorry, I viewed, but was mystified myself....maybe he just annoyed the autobots too much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonya View Post
    Sorry, I viewed, but was mystified myself....maybe he just annoyed the autobots too much?
    Maybe.

    He could have been offered a job, but not the one he wanted?

    Maybe they just didn't think anyone from Sector 7 was needed. I mean, they operated without even the Sec/Def knowing....

    I wonder. Is Jon Voight in this movie?
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    Why ask a question if you don't want the answer? Shades of "does this dress make my ass look fat?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmarB View Post
    Why ask a question if you don't want the answer? Shades of "does this dress make my ass look fat?"

    Alright, I want the answer. If the novel gave a good one, then please, fire away.
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    NEST didnt want him. He was classified as crazy and kicked out of S-7 so why would NEST want him.

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    Shades of "does this dress make my ass look fat?"
    That's a loady question for sure. (okay, I'm making stupid replies...time to sign off.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    NEST didnt want him. He was classified as crazy and kicked out of S-7 so why would NEST want him.
    Thanks Shadow.

    But why was he classified as crazy? Like legally insane? What did he do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Last Autobot View Post
    Thanks Shadow.

    But why was he classified as crazy? Like legally insane? What did he do?
    you seen how he was in the first movie. lol The man is nuts and he lives in him mom's basement and talks to Frenzy's head. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Last Autobot View Post
    Thanks Shadow.

    But why was he classified as crazy? Like legally insane? What did he do?
    What did he do?....He was already crazy as a loon in the first movie. What more would he have to do?

    Oh, just saw Shadow's post.....talked to frenzy's head.....that would do it.

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    Years of spending time with a big radioactive cube can do a lot to one's mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    you seen how he was in the first movie. lol The man is nuts and he lives in him mom's basement and talks to Frenzy's head. lol
    Fair enough.

    He was a tad bit too forward in TF1, but I liked the way him, Glen and Jon Voight's character got together to defeat Frenzy.

    I thought he would get a medal for that performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    Years of spending time with a big radioactive cube can do a lot to one's mind.

    I believe that, if it means that you were one of them. Still can't believe your age....


    Your replies make circles around mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Last Autobot View Post
    I believe that, if it means that you were one of them. Still can't believe your age....
    I don't think my age is a factor as far as my smarts go if that's what you are trying to relate here, I'm actually a complete goofball on a daily basis. A lot of kids I know are very smart, it's just a matter of where they project that intelligence, which isn't always the academic path. Then there are those kid around the same age as me who have calculators for brains and chose to project their intelligence in the "arrogant nerd" direction, which involves that obnoxcious "my 1 GB digital music player by some obscure electronics company (which I use for storing pirated software and torrents, but involves C++ hacking techniques to get any of those files on it, including music and videos) is better than your 80 GB iPod" BS. They're one of the main reasons I can't wait for summer vacation, because I won't have to listen to their abrasive opinions.

    Anyways I am rambling again, back on topic! Where were we? NEST? Simmons? Oh yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    I don't think my age is a factor as far as my smarts go if that's what you are trying to relate here, I'm actually a complete goofball on a daily basis. A lot of kids I know are very smart, it's just a matter of where they project that intelligence, which isn't always the academic path. Then there are those kid around the same age as me who have calculators for brains and chose to project their intelligence in the "arrogant nerd" direction, which involves that obnoxcious "my 1 GB digital music player by some obscure electronics company (which I use for storing pirated software and torrents, but involves C++ hacking techniques to get any of those files on it, including music and videos) is better than your 80 GB iPod" BS. They're one of the main reasons I can't wait for summer vacation, because I won't have to listen to their abrasive opinions.

    Anyways I am rambling again, back on topic! Where were we? NEST? Simmons? Oh yeah.

    :lol



    Yea, sorry about the age thing. Let me open the window to my world just a little bit. In my family the guys/girls your age have no where near your intellect. It's very refreshing to talk to someone your age, who isn't all about the crap that I normally deal with. So please take that as a compliment. I wont bring it up again.

    But yes, I believe the question was answered. Simmons is a nut.
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    I had something similar happen... was discussing counterinsurgency/counterterrorism at a briefing, and I brought up some concepts that don't jive well with doctrine, and this girl freaking shook a counterterrorism book at me because I contradicted what it said.

    I told her that I love to read too, but just because it's in a book doesn't make it right. She was infuriated. :wtf

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    :lol
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    So yeah, Simmons is a nut job, so much of a nut job that he is completely unaware what he has said about how Megatron's body helped them to create cars, space-flight, etc. As I do recall, cars were invented before S7 shipped Megatron to Hoover Dam. Also, space-flight technology was pioneered by the Soviet Union. So yeah, Mr. Simmons is a nut.
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    In the ROTF Alliance comic, Optimus leaves the remaining shard of the Allspark with some S7 personnel while he goes off with the rest of the Autobots to bury Jazz and dispose of the Decepticons. Meanwhile, S7 still has Wreckage (who is comatose) stored in the basement of their base. Simmons takes the remaining piece of the Allspark and brings it down to where Wreckage is despite everyone else telling him it's a stupid idea. Consequently, Wreckage wakes up when Simmons brings the piece to the basement where he's stored and that causes tons of damage, deaths, etc. Luckily The Autobots come back in time to save the humans (plus Starscream comes back to kill Wreckage since he saw him helping the humans in some surveillance tapes). From there, Defense Secretary Keller calls and immediately terminates Simmons and effectively dismantles S7.

    THAT is why he's not part of NEST.

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