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    The death toll now is over 100. There have been confirmed cases in NYC. I live upstate. Should I worry?

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    MEXICO CITY – A unique strain of swine flu is the suspected killer of dozens of people in Mexico, where authorities closed schools, museums, libraries and theaters in the capital on Friday to try to contain an outbreak that has spurred concerns of a global flu epidemic.


    The worrisome new virus — which combines genetic material from pigs, birds and humans in a way researchers have not seen before — also sickened at least eight people in Texas and California, though there have been no deaths in the U.S.


    "We are very, very concerned," World Health Organization spokesman Thomas Abraham said. "We have what appears to be a novel virus and it has spread from human to human ... It's all hands on deck at the moment."


    The outbreak caused alarm in Mexico, where more than 1,000 people have been sickened. Residents of the capital donned surgical masks and authorities ordered the most sweeping shutdown of public gathering places in a quarter century. President Felipe Calderon met with his Cabinet Friday to coordinate Mexico's response.


    The WHO was convening an expert panel to consider whether to raise the pandemic alert level or issue travel advisories.


    It might already be too late to contain the outbreak, a prominent U.S. pandemic flu expert said late Friday.


    Given how quickly flu can spread around the globe, if these are the first signs of a pandemic, then there are probably cases incubating around the world already, said Dr. Michael Osterholm at the University of Minnesota.


    In Mexico City, "literally hundreds and thousands of travelers come in and out every day," Osterholm said. "You'd have to believe there's been more unrecognized transmission that's occurred."


    There is no vaccine that specifically protects against swine flu, and it was unclear how much protection current human flu vaccines might offer. A "seed stock" genetically matched to the new swine flu virus has been created by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, said Dr. Richard Besser, the agency's acting director. If the government decides vaccine production is necessary, manufacturers would need that stock to get started.


    Authorities in Mexico urged people to avoid hospitals unless they had a medical emergency, since hospitals are centers of infection. They also said Mexicans should refrain from customary greetings such as shaking hands or kissing cheeks. At Mexico City's international airport, passengers were questioned to try to prevent anyone with flu symptoms from boarding airplanes and spreading the disease.


    Epidemiologists are particularly concerned because the only fatalities so far were in young people and adults.


    The eight U.S. victims recovered from symptoms that were like those of the regular flu, mostly fever, cough and sore throat, though some also experienced vomiting and diarrhea.


    U.S. health officials announced an outbreak notice to travelers, urging caution and frequent handwashing, but stopping short of telling Americans to avoid Mexico.


    Mexico's Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordoba said 68 people have died of flu and the new swine flu strain had been confirmed in 20 of those deaths. At least 1,004 people nationwide were sick from the suspected flu, he said.


    The geographical spread of the outbreaks also concerned the WHO — while 13 of the 20 deaths were in Mexico City, the rest were spread across Mexico — four in central San Luis Potosi, two up near the U.S. border in Baja California, and one in southern Oaxaca state.


    Scientists have long been concerned that a new flu virus could launch a worldwide pandemic of a killer disease. A new virus could evolve when different flu viruses infect a pig, a person or a bird, mingling their genetic material. The resulting hybrid could spread quickly because people would have no natural defenses against it.


    Still, flu experts were concerned but not alarmed about the latest outbreak.


    "We've seen swine influenza in humans over the past several years, and in most cases, it's come from direct pig contact. This seems to be different," said Dr. Arnold Monto, a flu expert with the University of Michigan.


    "I think we need to be careful and not apprehensive, but certainly paying attention to new developments as they proceed."


    The CDC says two flu drugs, Tamiflu and Relenza, seem effective against the new strain. Roche, the maker of Tamiflu, said the company is prepared to immediately deploy a stockpile of the drug if requested.


    Both drugs must be taken early, within a few days of the onset of symptoms, to be most effective.


    Cordoba said Mexico has enough Tamiflu to treat 1 million people, but the medicine will be strictly controlled and handed out only by doctors.


    Mexico's government had maintained until late Thursday that there was nothing unusual about the flu cases, although this year's flu season had been worse and longer than past years.


    The sudden turnaround by public health officials angered many Mexicans.


    "They could have stopped it in time," said Araceli Cruz, 24, a university student who emerged from the subway wearing a surgical mask. "Now they've let it spread to other people."


    The city was handing out free surgical masks to passengers on buses and the subway system, which carries 5 million people each day. Government workers were ordered to wear the masks, and authorities urged residents to stay home from work if they felt ill.


    Closing schools across Mexico's capital of 20 million kept 6.1 million students home, as well as thousands of university students. All state and city-run cultural activities were suspended, including libraries, state-run theaters, and at least 14 museums. Private athletic clubs closed down and soccer leagues were considering canceling weekend games.


    The closures were the first citywide shutdown of public gathering places since millions died in the devastating 1985 earthquake.


    Mexico's response brought to mind other major outbreaks, such as when SARS hit Asia. At its peak in 2003, Beijing shuttered schools, cinemas and restaurants, and thousands of people were quarantined at home.


    In March 2008, Hong Kong ordered more than a half-million students to stay home for two weeks because of a flu outbreak. It was the first such closure in Hong Kong since the outbreak of SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome.


    "It's great they are taking precautions," said Lillian Molina, a teacher at the Montessori's World preschool in Mexico City, who scrubbed down empty classrooms with Clorox, soap and Lysol between fielding calls from worried parents.


    U.S. health officials said the outbreak is not yet a reason for alarm in the United States. The five people sickened in California and three in Texas have all recovered.


    It's unclear how the eight, who became ill between late March and mid-April, contracted the virus because none were in contact with pigs, which is how people usually catch swine flu. And only a few were in contact with each other.


    CDC officials described the virus as having a unique combination of gene segments not seen before in people or pigs. The bug contains human virus, avian virus from North America and pig viruses from North America, Europe and Asia. It may be completely new, or it may have been around for a while and was only detected now through improved testing and surveillance, CDC officials said.


    The most notorious flu pandemic is thought to have killed at least 40 million people worldwide in 1918-19. Two other, less deadly flu pandemics struck in 1957 and 1968.
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    This is really nasty stuff. They found four people in Nova Scotia ,Canada with this flu. I think they were exchange students who had come back from Mexico.

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    only one case in ohio a kid has it.. no one else i've been sick with a head cold
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    We have a lot of people coming from other countries moving through my town at all times. I have to serve some of them where I work. I better hope to god that these people have good enough hygiene to where they aren't carriers.
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    I don't think any of us need to feel concerned, even the "regular" flu-outbreak that hits us every year brings deaths in its wake.
    It's mostly old people and/or people who for some reason have a lowered immune system (already very sick or has just been).
    So as long as you consider yourself to be healthy and "strong", you don't have to worry about dying.

    That being said, it's always good to be careful and not licking handles and trying actively to breath in other peoples sneezes, even if Swine-flu doesn't kill you, it's always a real bitch being sick.

    I tend to laugh at people's desperation as soon as a "new" disease strikes.
    First it was Mad cow disease, then SARS, then H5D1 (is it called the bird-flu in english as well?) and now it's swine-flu.
    Chill down boys and girls, if you think of how many people who get in contact with it, and compare it too the number of people who get seriously ill, the numbers are so small it's not even worth worrying about.
    The risk of getting hit by a truck is still greater than dying from the flu, regardless if its birds, swine, giraffes, spoons, chairs, librarians or car salesmen that spread it.

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    There are 2 ways to get this kind of flu, right?... eating bad pork, or being in contact with a sick person... so:

    It is a matter of concern if you don't pay attention to where you buy your meat!!!

    But it's not a reason to be paranoid about it... I mean, pork (as any other animal) can transmit a big number of deceases, but it depends on the way they're fed and maintained.

    We used to have (a long time ago) a very high percentage of cases of "triquinosis"... I don't know the English name for it, but it's a little worm that came in the pig's meat, so when you ate it, it would grow in your eyes and leave you blind... but the numbers now are way smaller...

    One of the reasons, is because farmers started feeding pigs with better food, and taking better care of them, keeping them very clean and all... so that decease was controlled.

    I'm pretty sure I won't stop eating pork, because I know mine doesn't come from Mexico. And if you're not sure, you can always ask the guy in the market...

    Plus (@ taybrian1)... it's not a matter of personal hygiene, I mean, you can eat bad pork at a fancy restaurant!!!... or get infected by someone with excellent hygiene.... as I said, in this case the hygiene factor applies to the animals... if they're clean, there's no problem (not that I'm saying that we shouldn't have an excellent hygiene!!!)

    Now if you get infected by contact with a person who has this kind of flu, then you have the baddest luck of all, I mean, come on!

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    Alright, thanks for restoring my confidence. But the other day my mom picked up a cucumber from the supermarket that was grown in Mexico, and my dad already cut into it. Am I still fine?
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    I'm getting tired of hearing of this, :lol

    It's always on the news, but you guys look on the bright side:
    I'm in Mexico, you're not.

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    theyve been talking about it looooaaads on the radio here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleman794 View Post
    theyve been talking about it looooaaads on the radio here...
    yeah, same here up north :lol

    And who buys cucumbers from Mexico??
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    Quote Originally Posted by calmontoya View Post
    There are 2 ways to get this kind of flu, right?... eating bad pork, or being in contact with a sick person... so:
    I think the only way you can catch this from pork is if it's very fresh (ie hours since death!) and you don't cook it very well/eat raw.

    So I don't think ya need to worry about this method of contracting it.

    (Unless you have very strange eating habits)

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    See this?



    Don't do it.

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    it's not just swine flu, it's a combination of some diseases that's why it's dangerous and can be got by someone sneezing on you so make sure you keep your hand in front of your nose and mouth if someone sneezes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snipperoth View Post
    it's not just swine flu, it's a combination of some diseases that's why it's dangerous and can be got by someone sneezing on you so make sure you keep your hand in front of your nose and mouth if someone sneezes.
    Although this is not good if you have touched something that a carrier has touched/sneezed on before you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redqueenar View Post
    See this?



    Don't do it.

    And as always, Be a Pro, Not a Ho. ALWAYS WASH YOUR HANDS!
    HAHAHAHAH.... this is the perfect pic for this thread.... :lol

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    Hey guys, I just heard about an increase in the level of threat in the last minutes...

    World Health Organization ("Organizacion Mundial de la Salud" in spanish), raised the level of threat from 3 to 4 (6 being the worst)

    I don't know what the first 2 are, but:
    3. Sporadic infection between persons in small communities
    4. Infection between persons in the same country - current
    5. Infection between persons in different countries
    6. Imminent Global Outbreak

    So this means that it's becoming a serious matter now!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by johat View Post
    I tend to laugh at people's desperation as soon as a "new" disease strikes.
    First it was Mad cow disease, then SARS, then H5D1 (is it called the bird-flu in english as well?) and now it's swine-flu.
    Yeah H5D1 is bird flu.

    And I'm not worried either. I never even get flu shots, either. I was joking with my brother in law that they latched onto this so they could get people to worry about anything but the economy.

    FYI, this isn't the first time people have had a scare with swine flu:

    http://www.capitalcentury.com/1976.html

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    Come on guys, relax.
    This flu spreads like any other flu, through unwashed, freshly sneezed hands touch money, poles, handles and such, and through people sneezing at each others faces.
    If you are old and/or weak, be careful, if you are not, it won't affect you any worse than any other flu.

    It's interesting though how the whole world unites and tries to scare itself to pieces over deaths from a flu.
    I'm gonna try and find some numbers on how many people who die from the regular flu-outbreaks that tend to happen by fall some years.

    ...and I found some numbers.
    I checked in Sweden only, and during winters with the flu, we have ~5000 more deaths than during winters without the flu, and I can't say that there is any talk about it being dangerous to meet other people during those years.
    And now the whole world panics over ~100 deaths worldwive?
    Psshh... Why isn't everyone isolating themselves every winter if it's so dangerous?

    So for the last time, chill down boys and girls, it's not the apocalypse or 14th century plague, its just a new flu.
    If it was ebola, you'd have a reason to worry.
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    you can eat all the pork you want.. if someone coughs,sneezes that's how you get it
    there is a case in columbus ohio where a boy got it coming back from mexico with his parents, wash your hands with soap and water or alcohol based hand sanitizer
    there was an out break in 76. this one started in the US and now this started in mexico they don't want no one going to mexico it's world wide.. we have tamiflu which will stop it, first the bird flu and now this sheesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by redqueenar View Post
    See this?



    Don't do it.

    And as always, Be a Pro, Not a Ho. ALWAYS WASH YOUR HANDS!
    :lol queen your pic is epic win
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    Default Re: Swine Flu Outbreak

    the death count is now over 150, and its said that over 2000 are infected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleman794 View Post
    the death count is now over 150, and its said that over 2000 are infected.
    Yeah, but this is what I hate about the news... first they get you in the panic mode... and they spend like 30 min or so talking about this (really!)... but then in the "smaller news" they say it's not a problem, everything's OK... blablabla...

    Like Johat and Megatron42 are saying... it's a flu that's been here for a while now, and it's a normal flu that won't really affect you... it's just an animal virus that adapted to the human body... and if you don't take the usual NORMAL precautions, it's not that serious!!!

    So, I was getting a little worried because I actually thought this was a SERIOUS issue, but I'm not gonna listen to this kind of news anymore... I mean, it's serious for Mexicans, and of course there's been dead people involved, but it's not the end of the world!.... yet! hehe...

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    its pretty much a pandemic right now, they just havn't released it yet...

    so far, countries that have it: austraia, canada, US, mexico, europe, and lots more...which basically makes it a pandemic

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    there are a lot of countries in europe mate and so far only spain and england had some cases

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleman794 View Post
    the death count is now over 150, and its said that over 2000 are infected.
    So around 6.9% (that's adding the 150 to infected estimate) have died.

    Oh and FYI, interesting web page I found: http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/f/flu/deaths.htm

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