Watchmen already sets a new record.

[uraydo]

Oi! Dont ruin it for people who havent seen it yet !(like me).

Don't worry, that was the smallest spoiler ever.

...and here we have our first "LMAO" contestant.

I think the point flew past her head so fast, it damned near killed the poor sap having to sit behind her.



Don't read if you're not into that whole spoiler thing.

Yeah, she is pretty clueless about the whole point of the movie. Also, this is one movie, I'm not sure how young you could be to watch this movie. I really hate keeping movies form kids from violence especially when it has a point, but some of the sexy stuff was a little much.


P.S. Robert Mckee once said that point of telling a story is to tell the "truth." The Watchmen hand so many freaking truths in it.

[Z28 Autobot]

Saw it last night.
My wife liked it. I loved it my brother hated it my cousin didnt care for it and my friend said he enjoyed it for the most part.

First off the people comming out of the movie. The younger crowds teens early twenties, I heard talking as they were standing or walking out of the theater..I would say most hated it..it was "to long" or "boring" " I didnt get it"
but yet I hear from older people in thier late 20's and up they enjoyed it.

To me this is the Superhero equal to Pulp Fiction. You had stories on stories and layers of hero's spanning decades. How the world was and how it is set up for this movie. And peicing it all together at the right times. Amazing.

And the ending boring? Are you kidding me??? There were at least 10 things happening at the end. And it all played out great. fuk most directors cant get one solid ending right without screw ups.

I havnt read Watchmen since the early 90's and I didnt want to spoil the movie by reading the book again. But I gotta say this was nailed down very well.

Like mentioned in another post..make your own choice..I could go on about things in the movie but will not spoil it.

But to put it on scale with another recent DC movie. The complexity of the story and the way it was acted out. This movie is above TDK. Now that the hype of the death of Ledger is dying down and you can watch it again. The only redeaming value of TDK was Ledgers Joker. The rest of it was just a good crime movie..Watchmen is a great superhero movie.
But again opinions vary and some will like this movie and some will rip me one for saying bad about TDK. But this is how I feel

[RiseDarthVader]

I am surprised how much people are calling it "The Watchmen" instead of its proper title which is "Watchmen". Is it just me or since "The Dark Knight" came out people feel the need to add "The" to beginning of every superhero movie. And the people that are disappointed are the one going in and expecting an action movie when it's really all about the characters.

[nelson]

The problem with this movie is that it is being marketed as an action movie.. from the visionary director of 300... the ads say. And it's not an action movie. (Bad Boys 1 or The Island have waaaay more action than the Watchmen). It's more of a drama with some action, hence why you see a lot of the teen crowd leaving in the first 30 mins.

The execution of the brilliant premise––I believe––was horribly done. The ending with the comic book book geek at the newspaper company was unnecessary and stupid.

[TIMtationX]

The problem with this movie is that it is being marketed as an action movie.. from the visionary director of 300... the ads say. And it's not an action movie. (Bad Boys 1 or The Island have waaaay more action than the Watchmen). It's more of a drama with some action, hence why you see a lot of the teen crowd leaving in the first 30 mins.

The execution of the brilliant premise––I believe––was horribly done. The ending with the comic book book geek at the newspaper company was unnecessary and stupid.

Well now i'm REALLY glad i didn't go see it.

[Comicbook guy94]

went and saw it it was sweet it was really close to the graphic novel which i bought and it is the best book ever a boooo yahhhh

[Mclaren]

The problem with this movie is that it is being marketed as an action movie.. from the visionary director of 300... the ads say. And it's not an action movie. (Bad Boys 1 or The Island have waaaay more action than the Watchmen). It's more of a drama with some action, hence why you see a lot of the teen crowd leaving in the first 30 mins.

The execution of the brilliant premise––I believe––was horribly done. The ending with the comic book book geek at the newspaper company was unnecessary and stupid.

Hit the nail on the head there. The opening scene with the Comedian is really the only action scene that happens and then the movie goes on for what seems like at least another hour and a half without having another. The movie is 2hrs 45 min and it feels like it's even longer, which to me is a major weakness.

I haven't read the graphic novel so maybe I can't appreciate the movie as much since I havent read the source material but it just feels that Snyder tried to put far too much information into one picture.

[The Great]

Saw it twice this weekend and the first time i did not like it at all. I was kind of tired and the theater i was in was awful. For the first ten minutes the lights were on until i got up and told someone about the lights still being on.
The second time around was a much better experience and I came away with a more favorable impression of the movie because of the theater i went to was loads better than the last.

the film itself though i came away think that it would have been a great low budget arthouse flick but, as the blockbuster it was billed to be it failed. I didn't read the comic so i don't know how faithful they were to it but, if this was a pretty acurate translation of the graphic novel then in my eyes it def. did not stand up to the test of time. I can appreciate watchmen simply because i know the history of comics and know what this did for comics during it's time but, now the material has been rehashed and redone so much it didn't have much of an impact with me

[Sillypuddy]

Therein lies the problem with this movie....

It is closely held to the book....not too many changes, aside from the obvious change in the ending...this movie will benefit from a much longer directors cut.

The theme of the story unfortunately does not resonate in todays world...If this came out 15 years ago, it probably would have held up better.

I still say Snyder did a great job on this film....the characters, for the most part, were brought to life very well by the people playing them..

If I were to change anything....as much as i like how they did the opening credits....it should have been a voice over montage instead of a music covered montage---it would have explained a lot more to the "non-Watchmen reading" audience....

...but then, how do you take 7-8 hours worth of possible movie and cram it into 2 1/2 -3 hours.......

[r-type]

Saw it twice this weekend and the first time i did not like it at all. I was kind of tired and the theater i was in was awful. For the first ten minutes the lights were on until i got up and told someone about the lights still being on.
The second time around was a much better experience and I came away with a more favorable impression of the movie because of the theater i went to was loads better than the last.

the film itself though i came away think that it would have been a great low budget arthouse flick but, as the blockbuster it was billed to be it failed. I didn't read the comic so i don't know how faithful they were to it but, if this was a pretty acurate translation of the graphic novel then in my eyes it def. did not stand up to the test of time. I can appreciate watchmen simply because i know the history of comics and know what this did for comics during it's time but, now the material has been rehashed and redone so much it didn't have much of an impact with me

I had a nice lengthy post that got washed away by the auto timeout/logout feature over the weekend. been too busy to try and rewrite the thing. i might post it later, but you touched on a few points i agree with.

[Jarek Zabczynski]

I am surprised how much people are calling it "The Watchmen" instead of its proper title which is "Watchmen". Is it just me or since "The Dark Knight" came out people feel the need to add "The" to beginning of every superhero movie. And the people that are disappointed are the one going in and expecting an action movie when it's really all about the characters.

Yeah it was too deep for a lot of people. Leaving the theater I heard similar comments like "that was whack" or "I slept through like half of it" from some of the younger folk. I liked it. Too many people were expecting something like Batman.

[StefsChemicalRomance]

The problem with this movie is that it is being marketed as an action movie.. from the visionary director of 300... the ads say. And it's not an action movie. (Bad Boys 1 or The Island have waaaay more action than the Watchmen). It's more of a drama with some action, hence why you see a lot of the teen crowd leaving in the first 30 mins.

The execution of the brilliant premise––I believe––was horribly done. The ending with the comic book book geek at the newspaper company was unnecessary and stupid.

Nelson, You realise the significance of those two characters, right? They will be in the Directors cut.. alot.

[uraydo]

The execution of the brilliant premise––I believe––was horribly done. The ending with the comic book book geek at the newspaper company was unnecessary and stupid.

I could not disagree with you more.

*may contain spoilers... I'll try to keep it spoiler lite.*

that ending puts an exclamation point on the whole "is it okay to win peace with a lie." that guy is there to represent the people of earth and that question that is posed to them.



it also begs the question, can a victory won through deception truly last and how easy would it be to make it all come crumbling down.



also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHH...://vgcats.com/

[nelson]

Yeah it was too deep for a lot of people. Leaving the theater I heard similar comments like "that was whack" or "I slept through like half of it" from some of the younger folk. I liked it. Too many people were expecting something like Batman.

Well, they were marketing it as an action movie with super heros (mind you only one of them actually had any super power).

[sora]

Interestingly here in Japan, it's been advertised as more of a dark and violent crime/suspense/conspiracy movie than a superhero action flick..

[alexsm]

I'll never understand why people care if a movie (they're not involved in whatsoever) sets a new record, makes so and so much money and so on, but ah well.

I think is something important, may indicate the way things are going to evolve.

For example:

-TF ROTF makes less than 50M in the opening weekend worldwide -> Total gross will probably be not higher than 200M and TF3 may not be made.

-TF ROTF makes 300M in the opening weekend worldwide -> Total gross will probably be near 1000M or even higher -> TF3's budget will at least be 300-350M

-Watchmen makes under 300-350M worldwide -> Maybe the begining of the end of Superhero Movies (Except for Spiderman and Batman franchises)

[Chantelle]

Watchmen was a very good movie! It was totally different then the way other super hero movies are like Spider-Man and Batman. This movie was awesome!

[TIMtationX]

i think is something important, may indicate the way things are going to evolve.

For example:

-tf rotf makes less than 50m in the opening weekend worldwide -> total gross will probably be not higher than 200m and tf3 may not be made.

-tf rotf makes 300m in the opening weekend worldwide -> total gross will probably be near 1000m or even higher -> tf3's budget will at least be 300-350m

-watchmen makes under 300-350m worldwide -> maybe the begining of the end of superhero movies (except for spiderman and batman franchises)

hahahaha @ 1000m

[Xsubs]

-TF ROTF makes 300M in the opening weekend worldwide -> Total gross will probably be near 1000M

Theres no such thing as 1000M:deadhorse1: Its called one billion

[Z28 Autobot]

Well, they were marketing it as an action movie with super heros (mind you only one of them actually had any super power).

So Batman, Robin, Nightwing, Batgirl, Black Widow, Huntress,Black Knight, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, The Spirit, Mockingbird, Wildcat, Moon Knight, Karate Kid, Night Thrasher, Catwoman, Prowler,Punisher, Blue Beetle, Shang Chi, Booster Gold, Union Jack, Bronze Tiger, War Machine, Iron Man, Doctor Midnight, Guardian, The Phantom, Manhunter, Mister Miracle, Katana, Mr. Terrific, Shining Knight, Speedy ,The Question, Vigilante, Kick Ass.. and so on..and I could go on..

There are many super hero's that have no super powers..just like the Watchmen..and in fact that was one of the ideas of the movie these were just regular people that decided to become more than just hero's a symbol..something "Super"...a Super Hero..

Originally Posted by nelson

The execution of the brilliant premise––I believe––was horribly done. The ending with the comic book book geek at the newspaper company was unnecessary and stupid.

I could not disagree with you more.

*may contain spoilers... I'll try to keep it spoiler lite.*

that ending puts an exclamation point on the whole "is it okay to win peace with a lie." that guy is there to represent the people of earth and that question that is posed to them.



it also begs the question, can a victory won through deception truly last and how easy would it be to make it all come crumbling down.



also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHH...://vgcats.com/

I was not going to post anything about the movie till people who wanted to see it could without spoiling it. But I guess the cats out of the bag..but did not know how to put it without spilling it..but yea I see exaclty what you were getting at..

Judging from the responses from many on here..some really dont get this movie..yea sure a visionary team that brought us 300..they might do more than just action...heck thats a plus if you can pull off something like 300 then going the total opposite direction and going with a dialouge ridden story that the main point is humanity in a super hero backdrop..

and everyone with the "action, action, action"..umm hello..some recent action movies SUCKED..since the people that made it had no idea how to make a movie without blowing crap up to distract you so they didn't have to write a script....and if you assumed that because it was from the people that brought you 300 that thats what your going to get the same thing..guess some people are way to one dimenional to understand that some can do more than just one thing one way...
If you cant sit there and be held in suspense by the way they are talking or the movement of thier face or the reaction to one another on screen and call that action..to me that was worth more than a building blowing up..the impact was the same with just a sly smile..but Iguess thats lost to many that wait for that big explosion..sorry I guess this movie will not be one for you... like so many the "fast food" culture of this world has sucked even a great movie like Watchmen out of reach of most..

Heck I remember going to see Pulp Fiction the night it opened..and guess what the people leaving were saying the same thing as they are about Watchmen...yea I remember that same night...kinda funny you look back now and see how high of a pedistle they put Pulp Fiction on..how time has changed on this classic movie..
Is Watchmen= to Pulp Fiction? No. But I would say it is the superhero/comic genre equivilant to it. And for me is a little better than The Dark Knight..another nonsuper powered..yet highly dialouged superhero movie..

[Z28 Autobot]

Interestingly here in Japan, it's been advertised as more of a dark and violent crime/suspense/conspiracy movie than a superhero action flick..

Interesting....

wonder why...

[r-type]

I was not going to post anything about the movie till people who wanted to see it could without spoiling it. But I guess the cats out of the bag..but did not know how to put it without spilling it..but yea I see exaclty what you were getting at..

Judging from the responses from many on here..some really dont get this movie..yea sure a visionary team that brought us 300..they might do more than just action...heck thats a plus if you can pull off something like 300 then going the total opposite direction and going with a dialouge ridden story that the main point is humanity in a super hero backdrop..

and everyone with the "action, action, action"..umm hello..some recent action movies SUCKED..since the people that made it had no idea how to make a movie without blowing crap up to distract you so they didn't have to write a script....and if you assumed that because it was from the people that brought you 300 that thats what your going to get the same thing..guess some people are way to one dimenional to understand that some can do more than just one thing one way...
If you cant sit there and be held in suspense by the way they are talking or the movement of thier face or the reaction to one another on screen and call that action..to me that was worth more than a building blowing up..the impact was the same with just a sly smile..but Iguess thats lost to many that wait for that big explosion..sorry I guess this movie will not be one for you... like so many the "fast food" culture of this world has sucked even a great movie like Watchmen out of reach of most..

Heck I remember going to see Pulp Fiction the night it opened..and guess what the people leaving were saying the same thing as they are about Watchmen...yea I remember that same night...kinda funny you look back now and see how high of a pedistle they put Pulp Fiction on..how time has changed on this classic movie..
Is Watchmen= to Pulp Fiction? No. But I would say it is the superhero/comic genre equivilant to it. And for me is a little better than The Dark Knight..another nonsuper powered..yet highly dialouged superhero movie..

You don't have to like something to "get it", Z.

Btw, are you referring to the people that walked out, or people here?

The movie was very hit and miss (not necessarily bad, mind you) for me, and it wasn't because I didn't "get" the comic book or the material itself. I understand comic book (or graphic novel, if you prefer) sensibilities, but I for one, think that:

- This movie comes way too late to the adaptation game with what it has to say. (probably would have had more impact as one of the first in the genre, if only had it not been beaten to the punch by others)

- There's really no need to be so defensive about a movie so polarizing to begin with. It is what it is, and some will love it and and some will "wtf" it. Although, despite the marketing of the film, I do wish people would give unexpected films a chance as opposed just saying something sucks. Conversely, it's really not necessary to put something else down to make a case for it either.

- I really groan when they port over certain character poses from specific panels of a comic book, it looks so forced in my opinion.

- Hendrix in the Archie: Hit, Hallelujah in the Archie: Miss

- Not willing to call Zack Snyder a visionary yet. He's good at remakes and has shown that he can stick to a source like no other, but not having read the comic, I was constantly wondering what was his doing and not the comic dictating it for him.

The ending did feel VERY tacked on, from what I understand those characters were more woven in, but were treated as a shoehorned footnote here (I wonder what the DC will be like). Besides, if they had ended with Rorschach's narration of him shoving the journal through the slot, it could have facilitated the same implied ambivalent ending. Instead, they half-stepped it by neutering those two to an afterthought.

[StefsChemicalRomance]

Wow. Nail on the head there, r-type.

Especially the Hendrix/Hallelujah. Lol.

[Z28 Autobot]

You don't have to like something to "get it", Z.

Btw, are you referring to the people that walked out, or people here?

I know that R, if you didn't like it for one reason or the other thats fine and good. And I am referring to people in general tha saw it that I have heard, read here or talked to about the movie. I have talked to like 5-6 people that called me or what not to talk about the film since I am the friend thats the scifi/comic geek of the group. They saw it and were surprised I liked it..after talking to them about what they didn't like and what they missed. I would say they all were like "Shit I missed that" and "Ohh no shit thats cool now that you pointed it out." They want to go see it again..Then to find out the reason why my brother hated it was..he fell asleep for 45 min..(he pulled a 67 hour work week)...no wonder you hated it???? He missed out on so many parts...and maybe *spoiler*....these were hero's forced out of a job..and the only one still in the game was the man narrating it "ink blot face" lol...thats why the action was not a huge part of the story..the why and how they got there was part of it..also told in the story. I really beleive that some were walking into The Diary of Ann Frank and expecting Saving Private Ryan since it involved Nazi's..even Nelson takes a jab at it as marketed as a superhero movie yet only one guy had super powers....but yet the biggest superhero of last year..the guy had no powers..yet Batman is a superhero...if someone does not like a movie thats all fine and good man..thats thier choice..

The movie was very hit and miss (not necessarily bad, mind you) for me, and it wasn't because I didn't "get" the comic book or the material itself. I understand comic book (or graphic novel, if you prefer) sensibilities, but I for one, think that:

- This movie comes way too late to the adaptation game with what it has to say. (probably would have had more impact as one of the first in the genre, if only had it not been beaten to the punch by others)

or maybe the groundwork was layed by the other movies so that this could be made..j/k..I hear what your saying..and your probably right. Watchmen was a game changer to comics. This book and The Dark Knight comic both came out at about the same time and turned comics up a notch from kiddie books to full blown respected material. If Watchmen was done say 10 years ago. Would it of done good? I actually think..no...why? Comic book movies were still trying to find the audience..and like that parody cartoon shown I think you would have seen something like that over a faithful adaptation.

- There's really no need to be so defensive about a movie so polarizing to begin with. It is what it is, and some will love it and and some will "wtf" it. Although, despite the marketing of the film, I do wish people would give unexpected films a chance as opposed just saying something sucks. Conversely, it's really not necessary to put something else down to make a case for it either.

and no your right man..again if you did not like it..thats cool. Hey even hit or miss is fine..but to say it sucked and the only reason was it went right over thier head..not fair IMO..but im not putting someone down for not getting if for that just the lack of thought to make that judgement..like falling asleep and blaming the movie is one of them..

- I really groan when they port over certain character poses from specific panels of a comic book, it looks so forced in my opinion.

- Hendrix in the Archie: Hit, Hallelujah in the Archie: Miss

- Not willing to call Zack Snyder a visionary yet. He's good at remakes and has shown that he can stick to a source like no other, but not having read the comic, I was constantly wondering what was his doing and not the comic dictating it for him.

I get what your saying about the transfer..yea I see that too..personally I hated the whole Spidey running in front of that huge America flag in the movie..I was like ohh jeshh..
But the book...read it and see what you thought. I have not read it since like 91..so its been a while. most of the stuff is dead on and even made better by the movie..hence the interactions I mentioned over "action". But they did leave a few things out and I think they put the best parts in.
Like CJPsaid..I got more important things to worry about than this but it is the popular topic (distractor) right now so its on my mind..thats all

[alexsm]

Theres no such thing as 1000M:deadhorse1: Its called one billion

Thats in USA, here in Europe one Billion is 1000000000000