A Question About The Plot

[phoenixgirl]

To tell the truth, I really hope Megatron does not come back. I don't think that will be the case however, even if Bay says he is not coming back.

[Trailbreaker]

I think the story would work fine without him, but seeing as they are paying more attention to the fans, he has to come back.

[ARCEE^_^]

I think the story would work fine without him, but seeing as they are paying more attention to the fans, he has to come back.

I really hope he doesn't come back cause if he dose I couldn't think of a story line that would work with him in it.

[Trailbreaker]

But maybe Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman could think of something.

[megatron42]

i hope it's not galvatron

[Battlebot]

The only way I would remotely except Galvatron is if they had him a seperate being. Not a refurbished Megatron. That I could deal with. Not Megs coming back to life and just changing his name.

[megatron42]

yep megatron and galvatron

[nightshade]

ok i got a question from a friend on another site and he asked if anyone could anwer it.

*The "Twins" are the comic relief of the movie that dont taking there mission seriously, they start off as the ice cream truck but quickly change into the beat & trax. Is this true?*

[Trailbreaker]

The only way I would remotely except Galvatron is if they had him a seperate being. Not a refurbished Megatron. That I could deal with. Not Megs coming back to life and just changing his name.

They did that in the Marvel G1 comics.

ok i got a question from a friend on another site and he asked if anyone could anwer it.

*The "Twins" are the comic relief of the movie that dont taking there mission seriously, they start off as the ice cream truck but quickly change into the beat & trax. Is this true?*

I think it is. It all makes sense.

[phoenixgirl]

I guess I could see that. My problem I have is the mass difference. Can a Ice Cream truck equal the Beat and the Trax?

[Trailbreaker]

Depends on the size of the ice cream truck. From all of those pics I saw, it was really hard to tell how large it actually was.

[xana]

Well they look like smaller cars, and I'm guessing the ice cream truck is just your average ice cream truck only older looking (NOT referring to the Blue Bunny mobile). But still that would be a little small for two robots unless their later alt forms are more spaced out armor-wise. :|

[ARCEE^_^]

I still hope it gets blown to smithereens!

[Shadow]

ok i got a question from a friend on another site and he asked if anyone could anwer it.

*The "Twins" are the comic relief of the movie that dont taking there mission seriously, they start off as the ice cream truck but quickly change into the beat & trax. Is this true?*

yes they are the Autobot comic relief but they do take their mission seriously and all signs point to yes about them being the ICT

[ARCEE^_^]

yes they are the autobot comic relief but they do take their mission seriously and all signs point to yes about them being the ict

omg!!
We figured out the mystery of the pink and white ice cream truck!

[nightshade]

thanks for the response shadow

[Trailbreaker]

yes they are the Autobot comic relief but they do take their mission seriously and all signs point to yes about them being the ICT

Wait guys, notice the "". Just because he said "ICT" Doesn't mean "Ice Cream Truck." They could be an "Incredible City Transport" or "Idiotic Crappy Transformer." Stop playing tricks on us Shadow, are they the ice cream truck or not?

[xana]

Wait guys, notice the "". Just because he said "ICT" Doesn't mean "Ice Cream Truck." They could be an "Incredible City Transport" or "Idiotic Crappy Transformer." Stop playing tricks on us Shadow, are they the ice cream truck or not?

Ah he has a point! Quit speaking in riddles, Yoda! :P (Shadow that means YOU.)

[Trailbreaker]

Yeah Shadow, I hereby relieve you of your misinformation duties and start giving us some straight talk. I formed a system for you:

-A bit of news comes out and it's true- you say "yes."
-A bit of news comes out and it's false- you say "no."
-A bit of news comes out and it's validity is top secret- you say "no comment" which basically means "yes."

Can you do that?

[xana]

Yeah Shadow, I hereby relieve you of your misinformation duties and start giving us some straight talk. I formed a system for you:

-A bit of news comes out and it's true- you say "yes."
-A bit of news comes out and it's false- you say "no."
-A bit of news comes out and it's validity is top secret- you say "no comment" which basically means "yes."

Can you do that?

You notice that not one of us has straight-forward asked him what the plot is? (doubt that he would tell anyway, but...) <_< *cough* With the answers we're getting we can form bits of the plot, (assuming Shadow is telling the truth <3) and then we figure it out before the movie releases, then spread it all over the internet, and Bay's like 'wtf? Those darn kids and their superior thinking skills'

No insult to Bay or the crew, just an interesting scenario.

[Trailbreaker]

Watch, we will know what the entire movie is about before it is even released. I just hope Bay has taken care a situation like that, am I right, Shadow? Even after all of the information that comes out about characters and what not we still will have no idea what happens in the movie?

[xana]

Watch, we will know what the entire movie is about before it is even released. I just hope Bay has taken care a situation like that, am I right, Shadow? Even after all of the information that comes out about characters and what not we still will have no idea what happens in the movie?

Hush! Don't give him ideas! D8

[Trailbreaker]

Woops! LOL, I just totally contradicted myself.

Ya know, at this point, plot is not my main concern. I just wanna see full fledged CGI models of the robots right now!

[xana]

Woops! LOL, I just totally contradicted myself.

Ya know, at this point, plot is not my main concern. I just wanna see full fledged CGI models of the robots right now!

I don't think they're done yet. Look at it this way: we already know what 5 of them look like.

[Shadow]

Yeah Shadow, I hereby relieve you of your misinformation duties and start giving us some straight talk. I formed a system for you:

-A bit of news comes out and it's true- you say "yes."
-A bit of news comes out and it's false- you say "no."
-A bit of news comes out and it's validity is top secret- you say "no comment" which basically means "yes."

Can you do that?

umm Trail I have already done this. Remember this?

Originally Posted by p00p_m0nsta
Here's my take on key plot points of the movie...

1. Sam has the "sliver" from the allspark and is making him see symbols and also being able to read a whole text book in 29 seconds (which shia is heard saying on phillygirls' video on youtube) He does not have the sliver at the time but yes it causes him to do this (TRUE)

2. Alice is actually ravage in human form somehow and Sam and Alice's relationship will probably go south very fast when she is looking for the allspark sliver. My guess is she sets up Soundwave to come in for a landing (where everyone in the theater will clap) (False) Alice is a con but not Ravage. The con is a female form of Frenzy. (NO NAME GIVEN YET)

3. Sam's house catches fire and gets somewhat destroyed somehow and sam tells mikaela that she needs to take the sliver House (False) Mikaela holding the sliver (True)

4. The fallen is not actually the fallen but the myth of a creature / robot that could be on earth (where they find it behind the wall my guess is in egypt) + i'm sure the robot has a name and we will all find that out my guess is in the 2nd half of the movie Myth (True) But may be more then just one bot

5. Since orci and enjoy the whole finding aspect of their story my guess is the pyramids were built to hide this "fallen" or keep it safe, just like the dam hid the cube.(True) and there is more to the story.

6. Soundwave will be coming back to earth with an army that he is in charge of, while other still fight for megatron, i'm guessing that will give a 3rd conflict for everyone to sit and watch them battle it out. In charge of (True) but he will not lead them to fight Megatron but to revive and follow Megatron. (False) on the 3rd conflict.

7. Epps has an even bigger part in this movie, with his knowledge of the robots from the last movie till now i'm guessing his is going to be in charge of the world wide organization against the decepticons. As well as Matthew Mardsen's character with (the N.E.S.T. organization) As a guess to what N.E.S.T. stands for??... no clue N.E.S.T......
The Nuclear Emergency Support Team (NEST) The Nuclear Emergency Support Team is the National Nuclear Security Administration’s program for preparing and equipping specialized response teams to deal with the technical aspects of nuclear or radiological terrorism. NEST capabilities include search and identification of nuclear materials, diagnostics and assessment of suspected nuclear devices, technical operations in support of render safe procedures, and packaging for transport to final disposition.
Their mission is to provide specialized technical expertise to the Federal response in resolving nuclear or radiological terrorist incidents. This expertise is provided by well trained personnel who form specialized response teams to work in coordination with teams from other Federal agencies to resolve a nuclear terrorist crisis. NEST experts include engineers, scientists, and other technical specialists from NNSA’s nuclear weapons laboratories and facilities to include Los Alamos National Laboratory, Sandia National Laboratories, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, the Remote Sensing Laboratory and the Pantex Plant.

8. Just like the set-up of the last movie, i'm guessing there will be several conflicts at the same time... perhaps...
- Sam and Mikaela are in stupid bf/gf fights (True)
- Decepticons vs. Autobots (True)
- Military vs. Decepticons (True)
- Autobots vs. Fallen (True)
- etc.

9. Scorponok is still alive and ends up in egypt, i dunno i put the sand and sand together and thought hey, he might revive this fallen character... given the circumstances.(False) on the revival of the Fallen as far as Egypt gos

10. There has to be a main character death in the movie, possibly lennox or epps... someone that has a huge presence on screen will probably give their life just to save humanity... i know cliche , but it probably will happen. It will probably end up being one of the main transformers, just like jazz in the first.(True) and (True) Simmons and another human. A few Autobots

11. As far as the parents go, they are just taking a vacation in France and run into a decepticon looking for the sliver when the autobot takes him out and they just stand their in amazement...(True) on the vacation and running into a D-con but (false) on the other stuff.

12. Sam's hand will probably be a joke as to how he did it, possibly the microwave blew up or he was playing with fireworks, something to the point where it's comedic as to how he did it. (N/A) LOL

13. As far as ramon's character goes, i noticed he kind could look like Simmons, so i'm thinking he could be a long lost son or something like that to simmons. But then again metioned a while back, he has his whole website conspiracy page that interests him with sam and i'm sure they will meet in Rainn Wilson's astronomy class. Which brings him along for the fight.(N/A)

14. This movie is going to be huge globally, with all the nation's coming together to fight this massive attack again, i mean the military gave their everything in this movie and is the biggest help from them EVER in a movie. Almost seems like there will be a huge nuclear blast to kill this character that combines a bunch of robots. Which is also why the picture of Ramon shows him holding on for dear life while cars fly by him... just a guess (Nuke blast Maybe) lol and there is a Bot missing from that pic with the cars flying over head.

I know it's a lot of rambling but i'm still trying to figure out how they will get all this stuff within 2 and 1/2 hours or so, cuz it's a lot to take in with how huge this movie will be... the movie will be around 3 hours

Feel free to add to the list or correct me with your own theories...
have fun you guys. I posted all my info in red.