A Question About The Plot

[megatron42]

fires fusion and plasma cannons

[Trailbreaker]

Arcee, meet my friend Megatron!

[ARCEE^_^]

help me
*whimpers in the corner feeling very small*

[Trailbreaker]

Then stop saying that you're smarter than us.

[ARCEE^_^]

then stop saying that you're smarter than us.

ok, ok, ok
i'm sorry all mighty and powerful trailbraker!

[p00p_m0nsta]

Here's my take on key plot points of the movie...

1. Sam has the "sliver" from the allspark and is making him see symbols and also being able to read a whole text book in 29 seconds (which shia is heard saying on phillygirls' video on youtube)

2. Alice is actually ravage in human form somehow and Sam and Alice's relationship will probably go south very fast when she is looking for the allspark sliver. My guess is she sets up Soundwave to come in for a landing (where everyone in the theater will clap)

3. Sam's house catches fire and gets somewhat destroyed somehow and sam tells mikaela that she needs to take the sliver

4. The fallen is not actually the fallen but the myth of a creature / robot that could be on earth (where they find it behind the wall my guess is in egypt) + i'm sure the robot has a name and we will all find that out my guess is in the 2nd half of the movie

5. Since orci and enjoy the whole finding aspect of their story my guess is the pyramids were built to hide this "fallen" or keep it safe, just like the dam hid the cube.

6. Soundwave will be coming back to earth with an army that he is in charge of, while other still fight for megatron, i'm guessing that will give a 3rd conflict for everyone to sit and watch them battle it out.

7. Epps has an even bigger part in this movie, with his knowledge of the robots from the last movie till now i'm guessing his is going to be in charge of the world wide organization against the decepticons. As well as Matthew Mardsen's character with (the N.E.S.T. organization) As a guess to what N.E.S.T. stands for??... no clue

8. Just like the set-up of the last movie, i'm guessing there will be several conflicts at the same time... perhaps...
- Sam and Mikaela are in stupid bf/gf fights
- Decepticons vs. Autobots
- Military vs. Decepticons
- Autobots vs. Fallen
- etc.

9. Scorponok is still alive and ends up in egypt, i dunno i put the sand and sand together and thought hey, he might revive this fallen character... given the circumstances.

10. There has to be a main character death in the movie, possibly lennox or epps... someone that has a huge presence on screen will probably give their life just to save humanity... i know cliche , but it probably will happen. It will probably end up being one of the main transformers, just like jazz in the first.

11. As far as the parents go, they are just taking a vacation in France and run into a decepticon looking for the sliver when the autobot takes him out and they just stand their in amazement...

12. Sam's hand will probably be a joke as to how he did it, possibly the microwave blew up or he was playing with fireworks, something to the point where it's comedic as to how he did it.

13. As far as ramon's character goes, i noticed he kind could look like Simmons, so i'm thinking he could be a long lost son or something like that to simmons. But then again metioned a while back, he has his whole website conspiracy page that interests him with sam and i'm sure they will meet in Rainn Wilson's astronomy class. Which brings him along for the fight.

14. This movie is going to be huge globally, with all the nation's coming together to fight this massive attack again, i mean the military gave their everything in this movie and is the biggest help from them EVER in a movie. Almost seems like there will be a huge nuclear blast to kill this character that combines a bunch of robots. Which is also why the picture of Ramon shows him holding on for dear life while cars fly by him... just a guess

I know it's a lot of rambling but i'm still trying to figure out how they will get all this stuff within 2 and 1/2 hours or so, cuz it's a lot to take in with how huge this movie will be...

Feel free to add to the list or correct me with your own theories...

[megatron42]

i'm waiting for shadow to respond to this

[Shadow]

Here's my take on key plot points of the movie...

1. Sam has the "sliver" from the allspark and is making him see symbols and also being able to read a whole text book in 29 seconds (which shia is heard saying on phillygirls' video on youtube) He does not have the sliver at the time but yes it causes him to do this (TRUE)

2. Alice is actually ravage in human form somehow and Sam and Alice's relationship will probably go south very fast when she is looking for the allspark sliver. My guess is she sets up Soundwave to come in for a landing (where everyone in the theater will clap) (False) Alice is a con but not Ravage. The con is a female form of Frenzy. (NO NAME GIVEN YET)

3. Sam's house catches fire and gets somewhat destroyed somehow and sam tells mikaela that she needs to take the sliver House (False) Mikaela holding the sliver (True)

4. The fallen is not actually the fallen but the myth of a creature / robot that could be on earth (where they find it behind the wall my guess is in egypt) + i'm sure the robot has a name and we will all find that out my guess is in the 2nd half of the movie Myth (True) But may be more then just one bot

5. Since orci and enjoy the whole finding aspect of their story my guess is the pyramids were built to hide this "fallen" or keep it safe, just like the dam hid the cube.(True) and there is more to the story.

6. Soundwave will be coming back to earth with an army that he is in charge of, while other still fight for megatron, i'm guessing that will give a 3rd conflict for everyone to sit and watch them battle it out. In charge of (True) but he will not lead them to fight Megatron but to revive and follow Megatron. (False) on the 3rd conflict.

7. Epps has an even bigger part in this movie, with his knowledge of the robots from the last movie till now i'm guessing his is going to be in charge of the world wide organization against the decepticons. As well as Matthew Mardsen's character with (the N.E.S.T. organization) As a guess to what N.E.S.T. stands for??... no clue N.E.S.T......
The Nuclear Emergency Support Team (NEST) The Nuclear Emergency Support Team is the National Nuclear Security Administration’s program for preparing and equipping specialized response teams to deal with the technical aspects of nuclear or radiological terrorism. NEST capabilities include search and identification of nuclear materials, diagnostics and assessment of suspected nuclear devices, technical operations in support of render safe procedures, and packaging for transport to final disposition.
Their mission is to provide specialized technical expertise to the Federal response in resolving nuclear or radiological terrorist incidents. This expertise is provided by well trained personnel who form specialized response teams to work in coordination with teams from other Federal agencies to resolve a nuclear terrorist crisis. NEST experts include engineers, scientists, and other technical specialists from NNSA’s nuclear weapons laboratories and facilities to include Los Alamos National Laboratory, Sandia National Laboratories, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, the Remote Sensing Laboratory and the Pantex Plant.

8. Just like the set-up of the last movie, i'm guessing there will be several conflicts at the same time... perhaps...
- Sam and Mikaela are in stupid bf/gf fights (True)
- Decepticons vs. Autobots (True)
- Military vs. Decepticons (True)
- Autobots vs. Fallen (True)
- etc.

9. Scorponok is still alive and ends up in egypt, i dunno i put the sand and sand together and thought hey, he might revive this fallen character... given the circumstances.(False) on the revival of the Fallen as far as Egypt gos

10. There has to be a main character death in the movie, possibly lennox or epps... someone that has a huge presence on screen will probably give their life just to save humanity... i know cliche , but it probably will happen. It will probably end up being one of the main transformers, just like jazz in the first.(True) and (True) Simmons and another human. A few Autobots

11. As far as the parents go, they are just taking a vacation in France and run into a decepticon looking for the sliver when the autobot takes him out and they just stand their in amazement...(True) on the vacation and running into a D-con but (false) on the other stuff.

12. Sam's hand will probably be a joke as to how he did it, possibly the microwave blew up or he was playing with fireworks, something to the point where it's comedic as to how he did it. (N/A) LOL

13. As far as ramon's character goes, i noticed he kind could look like Simmons, so i'm thinking he could be a long lost son or something like that to simmons. But then again metioned a while back, he has his whole website conspiracy page that interests him with sam and i'm sure they will meet in Rainn Wilson's astronomy class. Which brings him along for the fight.(N/A)

14. This movie is going to be huge globally, with all the nation's coming together to fight this massive attack again, i mean the military gave their everything in this movie and is the biggest help from them EVER in a movie. Almost seems like there will be a huge nuclear blast to kill this character that combines a bunch of robots. Which is also why the picture of Ramon shows him holding on for dear life while cars fly by him... just a guess (Nuke blast Maybe) lol and there is a Bot missing from that pic with the cars flying over head.

I know it's a lot of rambling but i'm still trying to figure out how they will get all this stuff within 2 and 1/2 hours or so, cuz it's a lot to take in with how huge this movie will be... the movie will be around 3 hours

Feel free to add to the list or correct me with your own theories...

have fun you guys. I posted all my info in red.

[xana]

Are those you theories Shadow? :|

[Trailbreaker]

YAY 3 hours!

[Shadow]

Are those you theories Shadow? :|

nope

[ARCEE^_^]

WOW!
how long did it take you guys to wright all that?

[xana]

nope

*isshockedtheproducershaven'tslappedyouyet*

[Shadow]

*isshockedtheproducershaven'tslappedyouyet*

why would the producer slap me? Im just helping out here

[Trailbreaker]

Yeah remember folks anything that he says, technically he has been given the O.K. for, right Shadow?

[xana]

why would the producer slap me? Im just helping out here

so says the fool before his execution.

:lol

[Shadow]

so says the fool before his execution.

:lol

who me? lol not at all. You will see!!!

[xana]

dammit Shadow, stop that!!

[Trailbreaker]

He's annoying, isn't he?

[xana]

He's annoying, isn't he?

*eyetwitch*



Not mine. His. But I'm kinda like that guy in the comic right now.

[Shadow]

*eyetwitch*



Not mine. But I'm kinda like that guy in the comic right now.

i love it lol. but really there is this thing in the movie... and... and it comes... and it says this thing that is so cool!!!... and then... and then the humans are like WHAT???!!! and it says it again...and...and they are like RUN!!!!! and then this other stuff happens and then N.E.S.T rolls in...and this guy... i dont know his name but he is like cool looking says come with me if you want to live!!! UMMMM!!! I THINK Anyway the humans go with him and run from this thing that said the cool thing when the humans first said WHAT???!!! and they get on this big ship and go where no man has gone before!!! Ya!! Ya!! Thats it!! And then the thing that said the cool thing when the humans said WHAT???!!! transformes and goes after them but not before the Jedi come and use the force and save the day!!!! THE END!!:lol

[Trailbreaker]

I knew it!!!!

[xana]

And then the thing that said the cool thing when the humans said WHAT???!!! transformes and goes after them but not before the Jedi come and use the force and save the day!!!! THE END!!:lol

well in that case, it makes it all worth it! :lol

jerk.

[Shadow]

well in that case, it makes it all worth it! :lol

jerk.

LMAO!! And all this time I thought you loved me!!!??? Why?? Why did you have to go and say that!!!???

[Battlebot]

Man, I was buying into that whole thing til I got to the Jedi part :lol