'Star Trek': An exclusive first look at the Enterprise

[Hardkore]

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008...rek-first.html

J.J. Abrams wasn't a huge fan of the original Star Trek TV series as a kid, but he does have one unabashed gee-whiz Star Trek memory: watching the first feature film (1979's Star Trek: The Motion Picture) and marveling over the big reveal of the Enterprise during a long sequence in which James T. Kirk takes a slow-boat tour around the iconic starship. "The coolest thing about it -- maybe the coolest thing in the movie -- was when you flew around the ship, you could see all the different panels that made up the ship," says the director of the forthcoming Trek reboot, slated for a May 8, 2009, release. "It was the first time I had ever seen that level of attention, that love of detail, given to the tangible, practical reality of the ship." Here, in this exclusive first look at Abrams' take on the Enterprise, you see not only his vision of the ship but his attempt to evoke that sequence from the first film that so captured his imagination. If you're thinking, "Wow! It looks the way the Enterprise has always looked" -- well, look at the big Spock brain on you! Abrams wanted to take the original TV-series Enterprise and the movie-franchise Enterprise and fuse them together into a new yet familiar Enterprise. His ambition was a ship that felt very realistic, that could stand up to today's F/X standards -- and beyond. "If you're going to do Star Trek, there are many things you cannot change. The Enterprise is a visual touchstone for so many people. So if you're going to do the Enterprise, it better look like the Enterprise, because otherwise, what are you doing?"

[megatron42]

nice looking ship

[MrX]

There are many fans objecting to the change. Almost a big as the Transformer fan were about the changes to Optimus Prime. I for one thinks it looks really good. The more I look at it the more I like it.

[megatron42]

it almost looks like the orginal

[Trailbreaker]

I love it. They have to modernize it or else the general audience is not gonna buy it.

[MrX]

I love it. They have to modernize it or else the general audience is not gonna buy it.

Thats the thing. You have to make a movie it for everybody. Not just for the fans. Otherwise, the movie may bomb.

[Trailbreaker]

Sometimes I don't know why the fans waste their time and energy condemning the new stuff. Why don't they just ignore it and watch the Original Series on DVD instead? Problem solved.

[MrX]

it almost looks like the orginal

Yeah, But a lot of purest are not happy. You guys know what I mean.

[MrX]

Sometimes I don't know why the fans waste their time and energy condemning the new stuff. Why don't they just ignore it and watch the Original Series on DVD instead? Problem solved.

I know what you mean. No matter how popular a show is, If you dont change things with the times it becomes stale and uninteresting.

[Trailbreaker]

Well, I'm definitely seeing it. This new Enterprise will hereby earn my seal of approval:

[MrX]

Well, I'm definitely seeing it. This new Enterprise will hereby earn my seal of approval:

Same here.

[megatron42]

i got one better



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[Hardkore]

I am a longtime fan of Star Trek (since TOS) and other things (like Transformers) and can understand the change and like it. Those "Purists" out there need to get their heads out of the past and realize that things sometimes need to be changed in movies for one reason or another. Granted the change doesn't always work but more often than not,it is the movie makers(whether the directors or studio,doesn't matter) fault for not coming about the right way to make it work.

[Z28 Autobot]

I like the trailer the sets look great. The thing is the ship looks to "modern" and not in the timeline of the other ships. Looks like ot borrowed from the ST:TNG hull and nacels but the saucer section looks spot on.
What they did with the ships in Enterprise the TV show the ship looked great. It should of been something like that an evolution to that.

[Hardkore]

I like the trailer the sets look great. The thing is the ship looks to "modern" and not in the timeline of the other ships. Looks like ot borrowed from the ST:TNG hull and nacels but the saucer section looks spot on.
What they did with the ships in Enterprise the TV show the ship looked great. It should of been something like that an evolution to that.

You need to remember,this is basically a "reboot" of Star Trek so really there isn't any timeline as this is the very beginning.

The Enterprise on the original show looked good for it's time but looks very out of date by today's standard of if they designed it for the first time.

[Trailbreaker]

Correct. It is a reboot. Not because of the design, but some of the events that occur in this movie contradict the events in the original series. For example, they said the Enterprise was built in space. In this movie, it is being constructed on Earth.

[Z28 Autobot]

its not a reboot:

The subject of the discussion was how to reconcile a number of issues. Since day one with regards to this project, it has been stated that the new movie is not a ‘reboot’ like the recent Batman, Bond and Battlestar Galactica, but will fit within Trek canon. However, just by looking at the new trailer and certainly based on JJ Abrams four scene preview tour (see TrekMovie report), some things appear not to fit within canon. Or do they? Many have noted that the report in Entertainment Weekly revealing how the film’s villain Nero travels through time to attack the ship carrying James T. Kirk’s parents might somehow come into play. But if so, then there are implications related to Trek history, as well as real and ‘Trek’ science. And that is where this discussion begins.

but reading more into it looks like the ship fits. I dont have a problem with it just looks more modern from saucer back and more original up front..

[Z28 Autobot]

Correct. It is a reboot. Not because of the design, but some of the events that occur in this movie contradict the events in the original series. For example, they said the Enterprise was built in space. In this movie, it is being constructed on Earth.

This movie fits into continuity..from what I just read..

[Hardkore]

Maybe reboot isn't the right term. Maybe it is more like a remake,they are remaking bits of the origin of the show while modernizing the look of it.

[Z28 Autobot]

Maybe reboot isn't the right term. Maybe it is more like a remake,they are remaking bits of the origin of the show while modernizing the look of it.

not at all..it fits in the universe..its not s retelling or a reboot or a remake..

here just read this

http://trekmovie.com/2008/12/11/bob-...-real-science/

a few of the movies already had this "theme" I think this one just breaks it more open to a huge change thats permenant.

[Z28 Autobot]

summary

To summarize…in FAQ form
All of the above can be a bit much to take in, and to paraphrase Captain Janeway ‘time travel gives you a headache.’ In reality you really won’t need to understand any of this to watch the movie. The above explains (in possibly too much detail) how the film resolves both the paradox of how the movie can appear different, but fit within canon, as well as how the film resolves the traditional paradoxes associated with time travel. So here it is in a simpler FAQ.
Q: Why do some things appear different in the new Star Trek movie?
A: There is an alternative timeline created by Nero traveling back in time.

Q: Is everything different in the alternative timeline?
A: No, some things remain the same.
Q: Does this alternative timeline wipe out the original timeline (from TOS -Nemesis)?
A: No, quantum theory says they both co-exist.
Q: Does the original timeline continue?
A: Yes, again as explained by quantum theory.
Q: Does this quantum theory approach conform to ‘Trek science?’
A: Depends on the episode, but it is explicitly cited by Data in the episode “Parallels.”

[Hardkore]

Ok,that quote really didn't help me much.I had to read the page at the link to understand some of the Quantum Theory stuff (or at least be reminded from some movies)but,ok.

Before today I hadn't heard anything about the time travel bit with Nero going back and changing history.

To answer some from this thread...

Anthony: Does the time travel explain why the Enterprise looks different and why it is being built in Riverside Iowa?
Bob: Yes, and yes.

Anthony: there is no doubt that things are different. Pike and Kirk are hanging out in a bar. The ship looks different. Kirk is on the Enterprise and not headed to the Farragut. People are seeing Romulans…things are different. Now it has been revealed in the Entertainment Weekly article that Nero goes back in time and attacks the Kelvin, and JJ also talked about this during his previews. So the big question is: Is the destruction of the Kelvin, the canon reason why everything is different?

Bob: It is the reason why some things are different, but not everything is different. Not everything is inconsistent with what might have actually happened, in canon. Some of the things that seem that they are totally different, I will argue, once the film comes out, fall well within what could have been the non-time travel version of this move.

Anthony: So then is time travel, and the alternative timeline, just a way to do a BSG-style reboot, while still remaining canon?
Bob: In some one else’s hands, maybe, but, again, much of what you will see could conform to classic canon, and thus we were not relying it as an excuse to change everything.

All in all,as the saying goes,all will be explained in the movie. We just have to be patient until it comes out.

[Z28 Autobot]

well you spoiled it for everyone. by telling the plot.I was trying to side step it lol :lol

but yea it looks like this will be good..

[Hardkore]

well you spoiled it for everyone. by telling the plot.I was trying to side step it lol :lol

but yea it looks like this will be good..

All they would have to do is read that link and it would be spoiled. So in other words they spilled the beans when they did that article. By sidestepping it you only made things more frustrating for me.

It is articles like this that I try to avoid from getting too much info that spoils it for me. I usually like to just see the first couple of trailers only then go to the theater. I know I was wrong about things but just from the trailer before that article it is easy to be wrong about it.It looks so much like a reboot or remake.

I also realized this has been done before. This goes back and tries to change history by getting to Kirk much like "First Contact" had the Borg try to change history by stopping the Phoenix flight that leads to the start of starfleet.

[demariusb]

Could you imagine how bad the original Enterprise design and uniforms would look on the big screen & in the present day?? Star Trek is supposed to represent the future, and during the 60's, that's how the creators felt the future would look. Well, this is 2008-2009 and our visions & expectations of the future have changed dramatically since then.

Though it could be argued that since Star Trek takes place in its own universe, where Khan ruled the 1990's, and World War 3 takes place in a few decades, why change it.

The reality is Gene Roddenberry himself, constantly made changes & improvements to the series. If he felt something was whack or outdated in the the Original Series, he discarded it in The Next Generation, and what happened in TNG became official 'CANON'.