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    obama is always cool and calm... MCCain forget it
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    Why does McCain always say "my friends"? I think it's pretty annoying if you ask me.

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    i agree
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    Next tuesday is the vice-presidential debates. What are your predictions for this one?

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    biden will win... they think palin can't handle it
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    The fact is, ask a McCain/Palin supporter and they will say "Palin will win." Ask an Obama/Biden and they will say "Biden will win".

    However, I think Biden will have the upper hand, he has been debating for years and is very formidable. I think Biden was a very good choice for VP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    The fact is, ask a McCain/Palin supporter and they will say "Palin will win." Ask an Obama/Biden and they will say "Biden will win".

    However, I think Biden will have the upper hand, he has been debating for years and is very formidable. I think Biden was a very good choice for VP.
    Debates can't be won, fact. All the talk about winning debates is nonsense. Democrats will agree with Biden because of his message, it's normal. These shows are mostly about stature, the way the candidates express themselves, if they're presidential or not.
    CNN want Obamamentum, so they'll push hard the belief that Obama won the first debate. Wolf Blitzer is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeetleJuice View Post
    Debates can't be won, fact. All the talk about winning debates is nonsense. Democrats will agree with Biden because of his message, it's normal. These shows are mostly about stature, the way the candidates express themselves, if they're presidential or not.
    CNN want Obamamentum, so they'll push hard the belief that Obama won the first debate. Wolf Blitzer is an idiot.
    If that's the case then I can say the same thing about Fox News and their right wing agenda.

    EDIT: And I listen to Rick Sanchez rather than Wolf Blitzer. I love the use of the Twitter board and how they show people's immediate reaction to the stories.
    Last edited by Trailbreaker; 09-29-2008 at 08:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    If that's the case then I can say the same thing about Fox news and their right wing mindset.
    Maybe Fox is outnumbered ya think?
    CNN, ABC, NY Times, Washington post, the list goes on. The media has always had a liberal bias. Remember the JFK/Nixon scandal?
    CNN is hilarious. They clearly favor Obama, no bipartisanship. They used the same tactic against Hilary Clinton in the primaries. Obamamentum, Obamamentum, again and again.
    The first debate was evenly matched. In fact both Obama and McCain seemed unaware of the seriousness of the financial disaster, they were detached from reality. Surreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeetleJuice View Post
    Maybe Fox is outnumbered ya think?
    CNN, ABC, NY Times, Washington post, the list goes on. The media has always had a liberal bias. Remember the JFK/Nixon scandal?
    CNN is hilarious. They clearly favor Obama, no bipartisanship. They used the same tactic against Hilary Clinton in the primaries. Obamamentum, Obamamentum, again and again.
    The first debate was evenly matched. In fact both Obama and McCain seemed unaware of the seriousness of the financial disaster, they were detached from reality. Surreal.
    Actually, the most trusted news channel to watch is...Comedy Central. :lol

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    i watch mr independant lou dobbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    Next tuesday is the vice-presidential debates. What are your predictions for this one?
    I thought the VP Debate is this Thursday?
    As for a winner, you really can't name a winner among the parties or the new channels due to bias. I think we can all agree that certain channels sway to one side more than the other.
    All this being consider, it is the undecided voters who determine the winner. Without insulting our fellow Americans, many people have not researched the issues and positions. The debates provide an opportunity, and often a first opportunity, for undecided voters to see the candidates in action.
    I highly question Palin's ability to lead, however, she is a very gifted speaker. The married men on this blog will agree that she has the wifely talent of manipulation. If you have ever argued with your wife, you understand.
    Biden has been training for the debate. Many female Dem. Governors have been practicing with him. He needs to show that he is well informed of the the economic issues and foreign policy without beating up a girl. The elder voters were upset with Obama for interupting McCain, imagine what they are going to think if Biden tries to command the debate!

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    Sing for Change Obama
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW9b0xr06qA

    WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE WORLD

    We're gonna spread happiness
    We're gonna spread freedom
    Obama's gonna change it
    Obama's gonna lead 'em

    We're gonna change it
    And rearrange it
    We're gonna change the world.


    Creepy.:wtf
    God help America, these people are dangerous. Brainwashing children with bullshit propaganda, hello soviet Russia.

    Barack Obama... father of the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeetleJuice View Post
    Sing for Change Obama
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW9b0xr06qA

    WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE WORLD

    We're gonna spread happiness
    We're gonna spread freedom
    Obama's gonna change it
    Obama's gonna lead 'em

    We're gonna change it
    And rearrange it
    We're gonna change the world.


    Creepy.:wtf
    God help America, these people are dangerous. Brainwashing children with bullshit propaganda, hello soviet Russia.

    Barack Obama... father of the people.
    OH, for fuck's sake, please cut the BS.

    No one here wants the USSR back as it would be detrimental to everyone including those that have any kind of right or left agenda.

    Take your fear-mongering somewhere else.

    As creepy as this video is it's a product of the lack of leadership and inspiration that has been lacking for these past 8 years. All of the sudden we have a candidate who is educated, knowledgeable and can actually construct sentences coherently and people feel inspired. That's the expected reaction when we've had an idiot for president for the last 8 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeetleJuice View Post
    Maybe Fox is outnumbered ya think?
    CNN, ABC, NY Times, Washington post, the list goes on. The media has always had a liberal bias. Remember the JFK/Nixon scandal?
    Really, you mean the liberal media that looked the other way when Clinton was discovered to be getting a blow job? I mean, if they are as liberal as you say, then they completely ignored it and swept it under the rug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeetleJuice View Post
    Barack Obama... father of the people.
    :wtf

    Seriously Beetlejuice, that was uncalled for and unnecessary.

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    Wow! How does that add credibility to your message?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson View Post
    OH, for fuck's sake, please cut the BS.

    No one here wants the USSR back as it would be detrimental to everyone including those that have any kind of right or left agenda.

    Take your fear-mongering somewhere else.

    As creepy as this video is it's a product of the lack of leadership and inspiration that has been lacking for these past 8 years. All of the sudden we have a candidate who is educated, knowledgeable and can actually construct sentences coherently and people feel inspired. That's the expected reaction when we've had an idiot for president for the last 8 years.
    amen nelson.. we don't need a third term of bush MCCain wants to
    go to war with iran :wtf

    watch this MCCain gets pissed

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2D_mhqDRBY
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    Quote Originally Posted by megatron42 View Post
    amen nelson.. we don't need a third term of bush MCCain wants to
    go to war with iran :wtf

    watch this MCCain gets pissed

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2D_mhqDRBY
    "Everybody knows..."

    Geez, I never knew!

    My favorite part in that was "Can I ask you why are you so angry?" "Pardon me?" "Never mind".
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    mine too
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson View Post
    OH, for fuck's sake, please cut the BS.

    No one here wants the USSR back as it would be detrimental to everyone including those that have any kind of right or left agenda.

    Take your fear-mongering somewhere else.

    As creepy as this video is it's a product of the lack of leadership and inspiration that has been lacking for these past 8 years. All of the sudden we have a candidate who is educated, knowledgeable and can actually construct sentences coherently and people feel inspired. That's the expected reaction when we've had an idiot for president for the last 8 years.
    Tongue-in-cheek guys, relax. Just playing.
    Keep an open mind though, children singing for Obama is mega wrong.
    Nigh on religious fanatics.
    No argument with Barack Obama himself, the guy has an impressive resume.
    When president of the Harvard Law Review Obama fought left wing extremists, he was mostly honest and fair. He has leadership abilities no question about that.
    And remember people the Harvard Law review is politically polarized on both sides, right and left. Some of the editors are totally nuts.

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    You guys have labelled me a douchebag, rich kid, and so on. Nelson insulted my parents, cool.
    Some dude even wanted to put a boot in my face. No KO yet.

    The GOP/Dem difference is simple.
    Republicans want personal freedom/independence with limited government interference. Low taxation is key.
    Family values, pro life, hard work, individual excellence. Always aim to achieve higher, never accept defeat.
    That is the foundation of America.

    Democrats have a massive European influence. They want more government control. Individual freedom takes a back seat. High tax, massive welfare for the poor.
    Liberals feed off misery, they need it.
    Pregnant, you don’t want a baby. Just kill it.
    They believe in positive discrimination regardless of talent, ideology over reality. Politics of envy for the discontented. Intellectual leaders impress their lower class supporters.
    Liberals hate Republicans massively, we’re all greedy rich guys/uncaring. Bullshit.
    Get a grip on reality people.

    George Bush's 8 years have been a low in America's recent history, some bad decisions+corruption.
    That is not the republican way, we're not monsters.
    Again I'm sorry if the Republicans you know are shitheads, but that has nothing to do with politics. It's just people.
    No offense to anyone with my posts. Any positive debate is welcome.
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    Voting in this thread is corrupt people.
    This morning Obama/Biden had 10 votes, McCain/Palin 4.

    Now Obama has 36!!?
    No fucking way. I wanna recount.:lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeetleJuice View Post

    The GOP/Dem difference is simple.
    Republicans want personal freedom/independence with limited government interference. Low taxation is key.
    Family values, pro life, hard work, individual excellence. Always aim to achieve higher, never accept defeat.
    That is the foundation of America.
    What's this utopia of "small government" Republicans speak of?

    No regulation? No child labor laws? No unions? No women rights? No safety net for the poor? No social security? No government funded infrastructure?

    NO...

    GI Bill?
    Endangered Species Act?
    Environmental Laws?
    The Space Program?
    The Peace Corps?
    Americorps?
    The Civil Rights Movement?
    Earned Income Tax Credit?
    Family & Medical Leave Act?
    Consumer Product Safety Commission?
    Americans With Disabilities Act?
    Freedom of Information Act?
    Women's right to control their reproductive future?
    Allowing citizens to view their own credit records?
    Balancing the federal budget?
    The Brady Bill (5-day wait on handgun purchases for background checks)?
    Lobbying Disclosure Act?
    "Motor-Voter" Act?
    The Voting Rights Act?
    Unemployment Insurance?
    Medicare/Medicaid?
    Food Stamps/WIC?
    Social Security?
    Peace between Israel and Egypt?
    Peace between Israel and Jordan?
    The Department of Education?
    The Department of Energy?
    The Department of Transportation?
    The Department of Housing and Urban Development?
    Labor Laws?
    The Marshall Plan?
    Winning World War II?
    Food Safety Laws?
    Workplace Safety Laws?
    The Tennessee Valley Project?
    The Civilian Conservation Corps?
    The Securites and Exchange Commission?
    Women's Right to Vote?
    Universal Public Education?
    National Weather Service?
    Product Labeling Laws?
    Truth in Advertising Laws?
    Morrill Land Grant Act?
    Rural Electrification?
    Public Universities?
    Bank Deposit Insurance (FDIC)?
    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention?
    Public Broadcasting?
    Supporting the establishment of Israel?
    The United Nations?
    NATO?

    For every single of these milestones, conservatives voted in opposition.

    It goes without saying, every single leap forward over the last century has been the result of Democratic, Liberal and Progressive policies, positions and goals. Every step backward is most assuredly the result of Republican and Conservative policies, positions and goals.


    Liberals feed off misery, they need it.

    Intellectual leaders impress their lower class supporters.
    As opposed to winning an election feeding of people's bigotry and fear? Try better.

    Pregnant, you don’t want a baby. Just kill it.
    So what, you're gonna raise him, feed him and pay for his tuition? Try even harder. I'm all for ending abortion if those opposed to it will be willing to raise the unwanted babies.


    Liberals hate Republicans massively, we’re all greedy rich guys/uncaring. Bullshit.
    Get a grip on reality people.
    Your party has never proven they care for the lower class (see the list above). The center of your party is "every man for himself."


    George Bush's 8 years have been a low in America's recent history, some bad decisions+corruption.
    You think? Some, that's one huge, huge understatement. Here is a list of the Bush fuckups (work in progress).

    1. 2000 Election Fraud (FL & other states, Diebold & More)
    2. 2004Election Fraud (Documented Suppression of Minority Vote in OH & other states)
    3. Paid Armstrong Williams to Promote Education Reform Without Citing Admin Funding
    4. Cheney’s Energy Task Force (Released Documents & WaPo Article)
    5. Jeff Gannon Journalist Mole/Closet-Gay Playmate (NSFW)
    6. Jack Abramoff (Modern Day Slavery & More)
    7. Katrina Response (Bush Debriefed on Conditions, Video & Timeline)
    8. Veto Stem Cell Research (First Use of Veto in 5 Ĺ years)
    9. Federal Funding for Churches to Distribute Community Based Services
    10. White House Rejects Most Foreign Aid for Katrina
    11. Carbon Dioxide (a Greenhouse Gas) Cannot Be Regulated as a Pollutant
    12. Kyoto Protocol Rejection
    13. New Nuclear Weapons Development
    14. Anthrax Letters (No Arrests/New Information)
    15. No Child Left Behind (Underfunding, Students Not Knowing How to Learn)
    16. Bankruptcy Bill (Ties to Credit Companies/Banks)
    17. Dick Cheney Saying, “Fuck himself,” on the Senate Floor
    18. False information disseminated on Jessica Lynch & Pat Tillman
    19. US Attorney Firings (Timeline)
    20. Torture World Wide Via Extraordinary Rendition (Torture Efforts Ramped up in ’05, Must Read Static)
    21. Falsification of Iraq WMD Claims (PBS Fails to Contradict Perle Claims)
    22. Valerie Plame/Joe Wilson Retribution & CIA Leak (Bush Knew)
    23. No-Bid Contracts (Afghanistan, Iraq, Katrina, next? Watch Iraq for Sale)
    24. Halliburton Gas Price Gouging
    25. Halliburton (Cheney CEO @ time) & Iran Dealings (Moving Offices to Dubai & More)
    26. NH Phone Jamming During 2002 Election (Sadly, Overturned)
    27. Bogus “Video News” Releases (Society of Professional Journalists & Details)
    28. Ground Zero’s Unsafe Air (Union of Concerned Scientists & Whitman Refuses to Testify)
    29. Karl Rove Meets with Companies He Holds Stock In (Enron & Intel)
    30. Justice Scalia Refuses to Recuse Himself from Cheney Energy Task Force Case (Roberts Does the Same)
    31. Bush’s National Guard Service
    32. Niger Uranium Forgeries (Bush Links Iraq & Niger in State of the Union Address)
    33. Sibel Edwards/Ashcroft FBI Translation States Secrets Cover Up
    34. Bin Laden Free (Possible Innocence in 9/11 & FBI Most Wanted Poster Last Updated 11/2001 & More)
    35. 9/11 Questions Remain Unanswered (Molten Steel at Foundation, Buildings Falling Into Their Own Footprints, WTC 7, Bush Lies in #57, Saudis Flown Out (Osama Might Have Chartered Their Jet), etc.)
    36. Enron & “Kenny-Boy” (Bush Helps Enron Profit from Torturers)
    37. Dollar Drops to Record Low Against Euro
    38. Mission Accomplished Carrier Production
    39. Monitoring Higher Education Courses & Teachings Via “International Studies in Higher Education Act of 2003″
    40. Bush Allows FBI to Confiscate Records of Business’ Customers Without Being Allowed to Notify the Customers
    41. Sending Troops to War that are Unfit for Battle (Extended Tours & Army Strained to Near Its Breaking Point)
    42. Walter Reed Scandal (Veterans Sue)
    43. Patriot Act
    44. NSA Spying on Peace Groups, et al. **UPDATE** Pentagon Shuts Down Database on Peace Protesters!!!
    45. Banning Photographers on U.S. Military Bases from covering the Arrival of Caskets Containing the Remains Of U.S. Soldiers Killed Overseas
    46. Paying Iraqi Journalists to Write Positive Accounts of the U.S. War Effort
    47. Inviting U.S. Journalists to “Embed” with Military Units but Requiring Them to Submit Their Stories to the Military for Pre-publication Review
    48. Military Erasing Journalists’ Footage of Civilian Deaths in Afghanistan
    49. Refusing to Disclose Statistics on Civilian Casualties
    50. Matteo Fontana Placed on Leave from the Department of Education for Receiving $100,000 in Stock from a Student Loan Lender
    51. Reducing Acceptable Levels of Arsenic for Gold Miners North of Yellowstone National Park (Wants Arsenic in Your Tap Water)
    52. Bush’s #2 Domestic Policy Advisor, Claude Alexander Allen, Going Down in a $5,000 Shop-lifting Spree
    53. Terry Schiavo Intervention Theatrics
    54. Guantanamo Detention (UN Urged Closure & Military Panels Flawed, a Sham)
    55. Guantanamo Torture (Prisoner Letter, Rumsfeld Pussyfoots, Force Feeding, More Details)
    56. Geneva Convention’s Provisions for Prisoner Treatment Labeled “quaint” By Gonzales
    57. Abu Gharib Torture & “Gitmo-iz[ation]” by Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller
    58. Erosion of Habeus Corpus
    59. August 6, 2001 President’s Daily Brief, c/o Condi Rice: “bin Laden determined to strike in the U.S.” (The Smoking Gun)
    60. U.S. Muslim Chaplain James Lee Falsely Accused of Aiding the Terrorists
    61. Bernard Kerik Nomination for Secretary of Homeland Security (Why Kerik Sucks)
    62. Robocalling Voters with Fake Democratic Candidate(s) Recordings
    63. Cheney Shoots Supporter in Face
    64. SAIC No-Bid Contract to Establish Iraq Media Network
    65. NPR and PBS Used as White House Propaganda Machine
    66. Car Bombs Excluded from Casualty Counts to Support Surge is “Working”
    67. Kidnapping of Haiti’s Democratically Elected President Jean-Bertrand Aristide
    68. USAID Secretary Caught in Call-Girl Ring
    69. Abramoff Trading Favors with Justice Department Lawyer
    70. Use of RNC Servers for Official Gov’ment Business (CNN w/ NSFW Image)
    71. Medicare Total Cost Misleadings (The Donut Hole & Big Pharma and Insurers Get Some Action)
    72. REAL ID Act
    73. Bush Appointees Resign Under Clouds of Suspicion
    74. Continuation of Star Wars Program (Why It’s Probably a Bad Idea)
    75. Bullying North Korea During Korean Peninsula Reunification Talks (More)
    76. Domestic Surveillance (Illegal to Wiretap Domestically, Congressional Report, Media Falsehoods)
    77. No Fly List (Some for Attending Peace Rallies, Now Deemed Worthless)
    78. Presidential Signing Statement Policy that Institutes Rule by Decree (More & Examples)
    79. Immunizing Cheney, Rove, Libby, Armitage and Hadley from Prosecution for Outing a Spy by Declassifying Her Identity
    80. Paul Bremmer’s Loss of $12-Billion in Iraq
    81. Government Contracts for a 20,000 Strong Private Army (BLACKWATER USA Mercenary Army, Exempt from Rule of Law, Corporations Hiring Mercenary Armies)
    82. Reversing a Specific Prohibition in Law Against Unwarranted Searches of Registered Mail, by Decree
    83. Giving Medal of Freedom to Paul Bremer and George Tenet
    84. Paul Wolfowitz Nomination for World Bank President
    85. Bankrolling Al-Qaeda-related Terrorist Groups to Suppress Shiite Influence in Middle East
    86. Iraq War (Woodward Plan of Attack, Noam Chimes In)
    87. No-Bid Domestic Soil Detention Camps Built by Halliburton (More Sources)
    88. Warmongering with Iran (I’m Starting to Hate Tables, Polls Show U.S. Behind & Bush Authorizing Deployment Anyway! & Just Because We Say They’re “Terrahists” Means We Can Attack!, September Threats & NIE Says Iran Has No Nukes!)
    89. Adopting Pre-emptive Warfare Doctrine as U.S. Policy (One Gov’ment to Use Pre-emptive War)
    90. Ports Still Unsecured (PDF)
    91. Terrorism Protection Racket
    92. Using the Establishment of the Dept. of Homeland Security to Undermine Labor Laws and the Civil Service
    93. Contractors Using Foreign Labor for Iraq Reconstruction
    94. Failure to Protect the Iraqi National Treasures from Looting & Destruction (Military Had List of 16 Baghdad Locations to Protect, More)
    95. Conspiring to establish permanent colonial control over 70% of Iraq’s oil
    96. Plotting to Overthrow the Democratically Elected Government of Venezuela
    97. Sidestepping International Court of Law
    98. Selling Control Operations of 6 U.S. ports to the Dubai Port Despite Objections from Congress and the Public
    99. Bullying China with Aggressive Spy Plane Operations (China’s View)
    100. Breaking Non-Proliferation Treaty with Attempted Nuclear Arms Sales to India
    101. Much of Government Computer Infrastructure Run by Group with Terrorist Ties
    102. Establishment of White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives
    103. Censoring Scientists from Issuing Factual Reports on the Threat from Global Warming (More Scientist Censoring, It Never Ends!)
    104. Adopting a Policy Refusing to Honor FOIA Requests
    105. Citizens Ejected from Taxpayer-Funded Bush for Anti-Bush Bumper Sticker (Nurse Wins Ticket Over Bumper Sticker)
    106. Reclassifying Information Long Held in the Public Domain (Opinion with Good Stats)
    107. Using “National Security” as an Excuse to Avoid Judicial Scrutiny and Punishment
    108. Malicious and False Prosecutions of Political Dissidents (Bolton Gets in on the Action, Media Threats, Prosecutors Digging for the Truth Not Immune & More)
    109. Stacking U.S. Courts with Religious Zealots (Role of Evangelicals)
    110. Recess Appointments of Controversial Appointees (ExxonMobil in Charge of Our Energy Policy?, The Gall Continues)
    111. No Real or Hard Evidence of Iranian Government Involvement of EFPs Appearing in Iraq
    112. Taking Iranian Diplomats Hostage Despite Being in Iraq at the invitation of the Iraqi Government
    113. Alberto Gonzales “forgot” to Turn Over to Emails to Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald
    114. Cheney Says Congress Can’t Stop President from Continuing Iraq War
    115. For Purposes of Inquiry of the Executive Branch, Vice President Dick Cheney is a Member of the Legislative Branch, and for Purposes of Inquiry of the Legislative Branch, Cheney is a Member of the Executive Branch (TPM with More & Dick Claims to be Above the Law & More)
    116. Purging the CIA of Democrats & Replacing with Bush “Yes Men” (More)
    117. Firing a Career Three-Star General for Criticizing Troop Levels
    118. Sending Deputy Defense Secretary Wolfowitz Misled Congress on True Cost of War (More)
    119. Firing a Public Official for Telling the Truth About the Cost of a “Medicaid Reform” (Original Knight-Ridder Article in .DOC Format)
    120. Using “Terror Alerts” to Manipulate the News Media and the Public (Timeline, White House Excuses, Bush Approval Rating Graph)
    121. Falsely Claiming to Have Foiled Terrorist Plots, Later Revealed as Fabricated Hoaxes (Kings’ Plot Goes Under & More)
    122. Expanding Neighborhood Watch Program to Include Terrorism(Jews Chime In)
    123. Administration Lauds Reconstruction Success, NYTimes Finds 7 out of 8 Failed (Knew Reconstruction Success Was Perilous Two Years Ago)
    124. Powell & Rice Declare Iraq Has No WMD and is Not a Threat
    125. Destruction of the Middle-Class (Krugman & More)
    126. Delay and Obstruction of 9/11 Commission (Reluctantly Embraced, 9/11 Commission Lapdogs & Finds No Link Between Al-Qaeda & Iraq)
    127. Condoleeza Rice Gets Memo on Al-Qaeda 9 Months Before 9/11/01 (PDF)
    128. Iraq WMD Intelligence & Facts Being Fixed Around Policy
    129. Letting Osama bin Laden Escape in Tora Bora
    130. Afghan Opium Production at Record Levels
    131. Terror Threats Increase Worldwide (Iraq Sees 91% Rise)
    132. Still Unprepared for Another Terrorist Attack
    133. North Korea Developing & Testing Nuclear Weapons
    134. American Ally Pakistan Sells Nuclear Material to Libya
    135. Favorable Opinion of America in Nosedive (Poll & Another Poll)
    136. Gasoline Prices at Record Highs (Cost of Barrel of Oil Goes Up)
    137. Tax Cuts Benefit Rich & Wealthy Most
    138. National Debt at Record Level & Rising (In Depth & Graph)
    139. Free Speech Zones & Threats Against Political Dissent (Behind Razor Wire[d])
    140. Loyalty Oaths (Gotta Sign the Line & Digby)
    141. Desire to Drill in Arctic Refuge (Other States)
    142. Bush Defends Most Corrupt Congressman, Tom Delay (Besides Duke Cunningham)
    143. Vetoes War Spending Bill
    144. No Iraq Exit Plan
    145. GSA Administrator Organizes Power Point on Federal Time to Encourage GOTV Efforts for the Republican Party
    146. Ignoring and Marginalizing Bereaved Parents of Troops KIA
    147. Taking Most Vacation Days of Any Standing President, Ever (Current Count)
    148. Undermining and Attempting to Privatize Social Security (Sneaks It In the Budget, GAO Finds Problems)
    149. Harriet Miers, Bush’s Right-Hand Evangelical Counselor, Appointed to Supreme Court (No Judicial Experience Needed & Withdraws Nomination)
    150. Worst Jobs Creation Record Under Any President (Likes Hoover)
    151. Coalition Provisional Authority Squanders Initial Iraq Construction
    152. US Fish & Wildlife Under Funding Forces Litigation, Vicious Cycle
    153. Delisting “eastern population[s]” of Gray Wolves from Endangered Species List & Northern Rockies Delisted Too
    154. Multiple Administration Insiders, Players and Counsel Support American Imperialism (In Depth, Where Are They Now, Video & Actual Document for U.S. Imperialism)
    155. Bush Appointing Anti-Consumer Safety Henchman to Top Position on Consumer Products Safety Commission
    156. Bush Continues to Harbor Known Terrorist, Luis Posada Carriles, to Court Cuban-American Vote
    157. The Pet Goat Gets More Attention than Our Country Under Attack
    158. Frat Boy Personalities Die Hard
    159. Employing Human Rights Violators to Advise and Run Abu Gharib and Other Iraqi Prisons
    160. Use of White Phosphorous as an Offensive Weapon on Civilians During Fallujah Siege
    161. Administration Hates Reporters Covering the Murder of Civilians (Especially if They’re Muslim or Independent Iraqis & More)
    162. Saudi Royal Family Ties (Prince “Bandar Bush”)
    163. 2005 Energy Bill Eviscerates Environmental Protections & Gives Tax Breaks to Big Oil (Even Asked Energy Lobbyist for a Wish List)
    164. Bush Rejects One-Time Windfall Tax on Oil Industry (Most Profits of Any Company, Ever)
    165. Rumsfeld Gives Soldiers an Army Without Armor (Soldiers Forced to Dig Through Scrap to Up-Armor Vehicles)
    166. FBI Agents Tried to Warn Superiors and Government of Plots to Attack U.S. (One Named Time Person of the Year, ’02)
    167. Psy-Ops Staged Toppling of Saddam Hussein Statue (American Imperialism on the Loose)
    168. Bush Slashes Veteran’s Affairs Budget
    169. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) Cases Increasing (Can Lead to Suicide)
    170. Pentagon Gets Creative with Troop Recruitment and Increases Dependency on National Guard & Reserves (Recruiting for Army Lowest in Years, Recruiters Sexually Assaulting Students, Recruitment Standards Dropping & NCLB Helps It All Happen)
    171. Administration Capitulates to Torture-Loving Uzbekistan in False Hopes of Securing Natural Gas Reserves
    172. Social Security Nationwide “60 Stops in 60 Days” Most Expensive Promotional Tour Using Government Funds (31 Administration Visit 127 Cities)
    173. Bush Laughs About Not Finding WMDs as Soldiers Die in Iraq (Video & Doesn’t Think Colbert is Funny When Jokes Turned on Him, Colbert’s Speech)
    174. Canada Sells $450 Million to White House, Bypassing Congress & Canadian Parliament
    175. Terrorist Finance Tracking Program (TFTP) May Violate International Finance Privacy Laws (Contributing Author, James Risen has More on Secret Intel Practices)
    176. Attack Dogs Unleashed on Michael Moore Weeks Before Cannes Film Debut of SiCKO
    177. Deregulation of FCC to Benefit Wealthy Via Appointment of Michael Powell
    178. White House Tied Law Firm Gets Ann Coulter Off-the-Hook for Voter Fraud Charges
    179. Violate Ashcroft’s Deathbed Seeking Legal Approval to Further Rape Civil Liberties (VP Cheney Confirmed at Meetings Dealing with Domestic Warrantless Wiretapping, Ashcroft’s Wife Disapproves, Go Figure!)
    180. Baghdad Embassy Set to Be World’s Largest (Construction Delays Help Cost-Plus Contractors)
    181. Karl Rove Enjoys Caging Voters
    182. Bush’s Religious-Zealot-Biblical-Capitalist-Gay-Basher-Pastor Exposed as Being Gay and Using Meth
    183. Appointing a Surgeon General Who Claims Gays Can Be Cured (Took Haggard Only 3 Weeks)
    184. Liberators Do Not Build Permanent Military Bases
    185. Egregious Violation of Presidential Records Act (Might Still Be Alive)
    186. U.S. Missile Base Splits Europe, Again (Russia Extends Hand to U.S., U.S. Rejects and Russian Relations Chill)
    187. Bush Rejects Congressional Subpoenas Claiming Executive Privilege
    188. Bush Commutes Scooter Libby’s Prison Sentence
    189. Cheney & Bush Declare Dictatorial Powers (Quiet Expansions of Martial Law, Section 1076: Bush as Dictator)
    190. Bush Administration Wants Your Child to Have Mercury Poisoning
    191. Homeland Security Spending Billions Secretly
    192. Pentagon Exempt from FOIA Requests
    193. Pentagon at Forefront of New Landmine Designs (Note to Pentagon: They’re Illegal)
    194. EPA Gets Helping Hand from Chemical Industry
    195. Pat Tillman White House Cover-Up (Death at Close Range, Fellow Soldier Disputes Final Moments & White House’s Word-Play Fiasco)
    196. Iraq Veterans Charged for Damaging War Equipment
    197. Bush Stifles Report Urging Action Against Poverty
    198. $20-Billion in Weapons to Country that Provided Most 9/11 Hijackers (The Controversy & More)
    199. Consumer Safety Protection Being Phased-Out
    200. Bush Administration Doesn’t Factor in Quality of Life when Examining Iraqi Re-Construction
    201. Gonzales’ DOJ Tips-Off Sen. Stevens (R-AK) of Impending Raid Despite Stevens Being the Key Bribery Suspect
    202. Christianizing the Pentagon
    203. Republican Ill-Maintenance of America (Note: Supports Defense that by Spending Less, Nation’s Infrastructure and People Suffer More)
    204. Draft Talk Started
    205. Military’s Main “Eyes & Ears” of Iraq are Being Slaughtered
    206. Cheney Thinks an Iraq Invasion is a Bad Idea (1994)
    207. Bush Administration Wants to Spin in Iraq, Not Win
    208. Kellogg Brown and Root (KBR) Knowingly Over-Charging Tax Payers, No Spending Limits in Iraq
    209. Clergy Shocktroops to Calm the Masses During Martial Law
    210. White House Office of Administration Is Above the Law
    211. Whistleblowers Jailed and Tortured
    212. GOP-lapdogs appointed to Iraqi reconstruction efforts over qualified experts
    213. Contractor Swindling (More Contractor Fraud, Custer Battles Nightmare)
    214. General Petraeus Aide Involved in Arms-to-Insurgents Fiasco
    215. Subprime Loans Mismanaged by Federal Government
    216. Red Cross Interviews of CIA “Black Sites” Leaked, War Crimes Trials Anyone?
    217. White House Faked Iraqi WMD-Capable Drone Photos
    218. Disbanding of Iraqi Army (Bush Can’t Recall Why They Did It)
    219. George Tenet Let Bush Brush Off Iraq No-WMD’s Assessment
    220. Iraqi Refugees Displaced by Our War Denied US Sanctuary
    221. Health Insurance Premiums for Families Up 78% Under Bush
    222. Iraq Was Never Intended to be a Nation
    223. Homeland Security Watching What You Read
    224. White House Political Prosecutions
    225. 1000 Citizen Arrest Attempts Denied
    226. Shadow US Government Grows Stronger, Robust
    227. Military Complains of Preferential Treatment and Lack of Control Regarding Mercenaries
    228. National Guardsmen Denied Benefits Despite Longest Iraq Tour
    229. Apartheid Mercenaries Called Upon by White House for Iraq Security Contracts
    230. White House Leaks New, Sensitive al Qaeda Intelligence Source to Fox News
    231. Never a Desire to Protect Iraq from Get-Go
    232. Iraq First, and Only, Country Placed on Most Endangered Cultural Sites (World Monuments Fund)
    233. US General Claims Bush Gave “Marching Orders” Regarding Detainee Torture (Commentary)
    234. Justice Department Terrorism Prosecutions Fail Consistently
    235. White House Heavily Edits CDC Report on Climate Change
    236. Blackwater USA Exports Silencers Abroad Without Prior Government Approval
    237. Military Suicides Not Being Counted as War Related (6,256 Veteran Suicides in 2005 Alone)
    238. Mass Beef Recall Due to Beef Corporation Lackeys Running Safety Oversight
    239. US Pre-Emptive Nuke List Exposed
    240. Coal Mining Protection Roll-Backs Destroying Appalachia
    241. Bush Administration Setting Stage for (Yet Another) New Pearl Harbor
    242. The Best Personnel Armor Our Government Won’t Buy (Inadequate Armor, Worthless Vest Protection)
    243. Bush’s Repeated Attempts to Cripple Children’s Healthcare (Timeline)
    244. CEO Submarine Joyride Ends in Sinking of Ehmie Maru and Death of 9 Japanese (Wiki, Not the Last Mishap)
    245. US Troop Desertions Skyrocket
    246. US Aid Directly Funding Terrorist Groups
    247. The (US) People vs. The (War) Profiteers
    248. Department of Justice Wanted 24,000 Amazon.com Customers’ Information (Fight this Bill or Else)
    249. “Massive Failure” in Government Accountability for Billions Spent and Weapons Lost
    250. Alabama Governor Don Siegelman Disappeared with the help of Karl Rove. Video of Dan Abrams discussing story.
    251. Young Haliburton/KBR employee gang-raped by coworkers. No criminal accountability. Congressional Hearings gather testimony.
    252. New U.S. Attorney General refuses to call waterboarding torture.
    253. CIA’s Destruction of Torture Tapes
    254. Let’s pull a Gulf of Tonkin with the Iranians and their speedboats. (Doctored Pentagon video here).
    255. CIA Director Michael Hayden admits the agency tortures…a little.
    256. Child prisoner held years (nigh unto adulthood) in Guantanamo.
    257. I think suppressing an epidemiology study about environmental health risks that could affect as many as 9 million people because injury implies liability qualifies for the list.
    258. A Gitmo within Gitmo.
    259. Military seeking Death Penalty for 6 Guantanamo detainees. Nothing so convenient as executing witnesses to war crimes ie. tortured suspects. Apparently, the administration expects a guilty verdict since the “death chamber” was constructed back in 2003.
    260. Reported in Vanity Fair, President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and others backed an armed force which touched off a civil war in Gaza.
    261. The tanking of Wall Street.


    If you want to go into deep detail, go here.

    That is not the republican way, we're not monsters.
    You sold out to the lunatic religious right and to the corporations and betrayed the trust of the people. When was the last time we didn't have a Republican administration that didn't have a war and financial instability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson View Post

    So what, you're gonna raise him, feed him and pay for his tuition? Try even harder. I'm all for ending abortion if those opposed to it will be willing to raise the unwanted babies.
    Thats a bullshit thing to say. I got a better idea. why don't we, as a country, get some morals, and not F*CKING bone ever thing we see. Not only will the abortion problem be solved, but also AIDS, Herpes, and other such sexually transmitted diseases. Sex is a freaking responsibility, not something you do over the weekend, because you're to much of a pig to get a real hobby.

    I could have read the rest of what you said, but I pretty much got board. so instead of having sex, I just stopped reading. That and I lost a lot of respect for what was being said when I read, and I'm paraphrasing this, "Wow, so our careless dicking around brought a life into this world. How could this have happened? I don't know. Let's kill it..... what for food, or is it threating our existence?.... No, I was think, just for the hell of it."


    and just to remind everyone what I'm talking about:
    http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/phot...17970_8376.jpg


    You know, I have been seeing the point of everthing being said here, but know I think I'm going to side with BeetleJuice..... you know.... Just for the hell of it.


    Go McCain! sure you're an aregant prick that won't let others get a word in edge wise, but at least your..... old.... that and you don't think we can sovle our energy by NOT drill demesticly.
    "...my heart is turned to stone; I strike it, and it hurts my hand..."

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