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    Question Those non-transforming fleshy things

    This is NOT and argument that the humans stole the show in Transformers, but I was just wondering if there was any appreciation out there for the humans in the movie.

    Cause personally I think the movie sustains itself pretty well before we even see the Autobots (the undeniable stars of the film). I know there's been a lot of support for Shia, but what about everyone else. Glen's freakin funny and after seeing the pawn shop scene in the Imax cut, I have a new found appreciation for Lennox.

    So am I alone on this or what?

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    appreciation or not...theres no way to do the movie w/o them...the budget would be insane

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    I don't mind the human characters. Well actually certain human characters. Alot of the humourous laugh out loud moments were the human scenes. So they were just as entertaining. For example, when Glen's cousin ran right through a window LOL!

    You can't do it without humans. Maybe some Japanese director or animators would end up making their own Transformers completed animated movie like Final Fantasy Advent Children. We gotta have the human elements and I appreciate all those scenes, especially the military scenes. Who would Blackout and Skorponok attack if there was no military presence?

    And we also need humans for the purpose of something that the audience can identify with. I think without the addition of human characters, you would lose a large chunk of the audience because some uninformed adults would think its just a cartoon.

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    As far as I know, Japanese people around me do love every character (even the history teacher in Sam's class!) in this film.
    In the first place, G1 cartoon was the story about human-robot communication.

    Personally speaking, I don't want this franchise to be a just-full-of-robots-CG movie.
    The great thing about the works ILM and Digital Domain have done is that it's perfectly integrated into the human world.
    The prime purpose of CG is not to show off its beauty, but to support depicting something not existing yet.

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    i think the beauty of it not being all robots is that any time a sequence where they are all interacting (the scene where the autobots have to hide from Sam's parents, and sam is looking for the glasses) comes on...we get super excited about it. The novelty of that would wear off after a while if it was almost all robots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xAgonyxScenex View Post
    i think the beauty of it not being all robots is that any time a sequence where they are all interacting (the scene where the autobots have to hide from Sam's parents, and sam is looking for the glasses) comes on...we get super excited about it. The novelty of that would wear off after a while if it was almost all robots.
    No kiddin man. That scene makes me laugh. Shia was well casted. Funniest shit, I was sitting and watching the movie, and a friend said, "Oh, I love this part with his dad.". That's clear enough that the CG supported the scene rather than stole it. In the end it's just a tool in the kit of film makers. You can't always rely on it to do your work. Bay uses that idea well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darthrage View Post
    I don't mind the human characters. Well actually certain human characters. Alot of the humourous laugh out loud moments were the human scenes. So they were just as entertaining. For example, when Glen's cousin ran right through a window LOL!
    "My Gandma don't like no one on her carpet... Especially PO-LICE!" Pardon the short hand but: ROFLMAO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xAgonyxScenex View Post
    appreciation or not...theres no way to do the movie w/o them...the budget would be insane
    There it is folks, in a nutshell. I feel the same way.

    Members of the production have said it (Orci, in particular, IIRC): What's the point of being in disguise, if there is nothing to be in disguise from (paraphrasing). It's the ultimate in "grounded in reality", IMO.

    My favorite, subtle part was when Sam's dad, gives Sam respect knuckles after Mikaela pops up in the room. A small "Way to go, son". I don't know why it has me rolling, maybe it's because I didn't notice it until another viewing or something.

    Glen's cousin taking a dive through the patio door was hilarious too.

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    I feel all the human characters are fine and necessary except the hackers. A waste of a good 20 mins of screen time just to tell us a few lines?

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    well the story is based around a boy and his car (just so happens that car turns out to be an alien robot...who knew). That was the original human element that was pitched to the writers and to Bay to get them both to sign on (from my understanding. i know for sure for writers, pretty sure for bay also). Human element was always a large portion of the story according to the writers and Sam is obviously the main protagonist of the film (not any of the autobots like some think). Sam is the one you are most emotionally invested in if you have no previous circumstances coming into play (like watching the cartoon since you where a kid. No protagonist could hope to gain the type of relationship in 2 1/2 hours that took years and years for optimus prime to build with you as a child). But basically in short, the story is build around the human characters and the robots just kind of interrupt their story and bring the story into a new direction. So yes i agree with you, the human element was very interesting and well developed, it pretty much had to be imo.

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