*captain America*

[Trailbreaker]

Okay so he's a martyr, sounds good!

[guitarded]

The "Cap" should have some improvements.....While the shield goes good with his look, It's kinda lame........like the hulk in purple pants

Does anyone know if all members of the "Avengers" will have their own solo movies.....or is Cap the last one? I don't want to wait 10 years for an Avengers Movie

Both Iron Man and the Incredible Hulk were fantastic movies, I'm Sure Captain America will be on par or better

[elemental fantasy]

guitarded: Both Iron Man and the Incredible Hulk were fantastic movies, I'm Sure Captain America will be on par or better

Only if Avi hires me as director...
Hulk and Iron man are way different from Captain America in almost every way. Captain sucks, the studios know it, and wanna stay clear of it. Unless they use my story idea, or one similar I cant see it keeping half ass true to the comics and working out, even for a period piece.

I believe they wanna do Thor! But I woudn't hold my breath on the Captain... I am not too sure, but The Avengers is set for a 2011-2013 release, as far as Thor and Captain, don't hold your breath on em...

[guitarded]

yeah...the original Cap movie was on TV about a month ago.....ughhhh......terrible! The original story sucks

He needs a complete makeover to be a box office hit!

They'll have to do away with the 1940's backround story, and implement something new, or perhaps somehow tie in The Hulk's super soldier serum story.

The film will flop if Captain America parades around in the movie with just a shield.....It will have to be over the top cool to work! Maybe make the shield retract into a blade, or get rid of it completely.....A small force field generator on his left arm would be cooler.....Equip him with a sword to symbolize the marines......

[elemental fantasy]

He will have no sword. He is in the Army, not a Marine. He will have some fun lil deadly daggers and knifes to play with if need be. The shield is great, because I only have shown the front side tests, on the back of his shield is why he really has it, it's mostly something for GPS/nightvision, all the crazy bullshit you could think of, he literally has about 6 monitors all super advanced shit on the backside of the shield, it's essentially a small mobile military command center. As well, he stashes some kick ass toys behind that shield of his. It's not his main weapon like the comics, "I throw it at you" but rather modernized as his main weapon of defense, offense, and pure tactical knowledge capability's, (Satellite, phone, Infared, remote camera, sensors, hell, maybe even an i-pod, lol, just jokin about the i-pod. No rocket launcher/flame thrower over the top stuff, but doesnt mean he cant have a mini 2,500yd rocket launcher inside that has to be detached to use. : ) His shield is filled with logistical and practical goodies. The essence of Big Fuckin Explosions!!!

He also has some bad mother fuckin guns, not a mask, but now he has more of a helmet like mask.

And yeah, read through this thread, he is only one of 100's, if not thousands of U.S. soldiers that are genetically enhanced to feel no pain, move faster, think faster and be stronger. I wont say now, but shit happens and he ends up being one of the only underground super soldiers left...

It's funny, I have been looking for that Captain America movie, they don't sell it ANYWHERE, or rent it... The studios really don't wanna acknowledge that POS. lol

Essentially, my Captain is a lil similar to the comic, (or else he's just a new character) But yes, everything is being redesigned and retold while still maintaining the comics characters essence...

[guitarded]

Trust me.......you don't want to see the current Captain America movie..........much like the Fantastic Four movie that came out in the early 90's

I'll have to read more in this thread........I hate being gone for a while, and then trying to catch up in multiple page threads.

[guitarded]

Well......after reading this thread, it appears that some feel the name "Captain America" isn't suitable these days.............How about a title like "Steve Rogers, Legend of a Superhero" ???......and only make reference to him as "The Cap" in the avengers film


I don't think guns would suit his character.....maybe a weapon that fires small discs....?

[xXRavenXx]

Well......after reading this thread, it appears that some feel the name "Captain America" isn't suitable these days.............How about a title like "Steve Rogers, Legend of a Superhero" ???......and only make reference to him as "The Cap" in the avengers film


I don't think guns would suit his character.....maybe a weapon that fires small discs....?

Yes don't gawk.. I am actually alive. lol

But, I am not a big fan of Capitan America, but I know the only way for him to be a good hit is to feed off of the current situation in this country. You would have to make him a guy who was raised with "American Ideals" and spoon fed what he thought the idea of the country is supposed to be; then when he realizes that we are actually the country who wages war and turns it's back on our own for the benefit of another country or our own political ambitions. You would have to take him down the track of a Punisher type of character who has his values, sticks to them, and does what is necessary to get the job done.

Over all it wouldn't be the Cappy people are used to who like the comics, so it would alienate a bunch of people, and like some others said it would be more like the F4 movies. Not a wide market appeal. But, there is always a chance of something special happening.

[Z28 Autobot]

ohh Captain America or I should say Steve Rogers has turned his back on the goverment in the comics a few times he thought it was wrong.

[guitarded]

Why do I get the feeling you guys have been leapfrogging my posts in this thread?

http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum...0&postcount=26

Your posts haven't gone unnoticed

I'm cool with this movie taking place in the past with real events (red skull or not)....but eventually, they're gonna have to bring "the Cap" into the present sometime in the movie to tie in with the upcoming Avengers story line.

It's as you say......they're gonna have to make some changes

[elemental fantasy]

guitarded: Well...... some feel the name "Captain America" isn't suitable these days.............How about a title like "Steve Rogers, Legend of a Superhero" ???......and only make reference to him as "The Cap" in the avengers film

While that's a really great idea, I gotta keep the tittle "Captain America", same as X-Men, Iron Man, Spider-Man, Hulk, and all the other Marvel comics. Indeed he is only called Capt. at the end by some one from the military branch after his death. Most people wont even know he exists at all. He's more underground.

guitarded:I don't think guns would suit his character.....maybe a weapon that fires small discs....?

Isn't that the same as rubber bullets, and wouldn't firing small shields/disks be more like like ninja stars? As well as super cheesy (almost over the top comic reference) Not a bad idea, but it doesn't fit into a modern realistic society.
As far as his character, he is a patriotic soldier. Soldier's of war have guns. Guns kill people! I just cant get over the ideal of the bad guys having 30 auto machine guns, cant shoot straight at all, and the good guy only has a sword. Too far out there. He was genetically enhanced to destroy anything that opposes America, not knock them out, but take them out. But it doesn't make him a monster like the Hulk.

xXRavenXx:
You would have to make him a guy who was raised with "American Ideals" and spoon fed what he thought the idea of the country is supposed to be; then when he realizes that we are actually the country who wages war and turns it's back on our own for the benefit of another country or our own political ambitions. You would have to take him down the track of a Punisher type of character who has his values, sticks to them, and does what is necessary to get the job done.

Um... pretty much... He is trained by the U.S. military, they always try to brainwash, and you could imagine how easy it would be for someone to brainwash a 16 year old patriotic kid in WWII.
All in all, his value is basically to stop the bad guys, by any means necessary. The bad guys for him are the ones who harm our nations people! Even if it's our own Nation. That has never changed for him, and never will. But his eyes slowly open during the film as to what this Nation is, instead of what it should be, as well, who this nations #1 enemy really is.

xXRavenXx: it would be more like the F4 movies.

More like the new Batman's, the F4 movies are fun, but not at all serious, and.... they suck!!! -- only on the serious levels, the F4 movies are too silly and often very dumbed down. Plus, some pretty shitty acting!

I also am not looking to tie this movie into ANYTHING!
And as far as if this ever gets made by hollywood. I wouldnt think of tieing it in with the upcoming Avengers story line. There is no upcoming Avengers story line nor is there an upcoming Captain story line. Hollywood REALLY wants to stay away from the Captain, so, these film's may never be made, as well, if it does get made, they can always do tie-in's in the Avengers film.

My Captain film is it's own entity, not a tie in to any other comic stuff out there.

EDIT: Fuck thats a big post, sorry. I am also trying to keep in mind that some things have to stay the same or Marvel wont let this thing fly, so in the end, he has to have a very similar comic captain costume, updated and changed, it still has to carry those colors and spirit. As well as the movies title. Some things have to stay within a certain box for Marvel and Stan not to get pissed, there not looking for a new character, but a new revision on an existing one. An iconic one, no matter how much it sucked in the past.
Also, within that context, the A, will stay on the forehead, but perhaps only in the eagles eye that was on the center with the wings, when the wings get moved, the eagles head may stay with an angry style A for an eye, I dunno, but Marvel wants it in there... so that has to stay somehow, without him lookin like Alvin the chipmunk.

[elemental fantasy]

I want Mark Vally!!



Any other casting ideas?

[Z28 Autobot]

I also am not looking to tie this movie into ANYTHING!
And as far as if this ever gets made by hollywood. I wouldnt think of tieing it in with the upcoming Avengers story line. There is no upcoming Avengers story line nor is there an upcoming Captain story line. Hollywood REALLY wants to stay away from the Captain, so, these film's may never be made, as well, if it does get made, they can always do tie-in's in the Avengers film.

Are you talking about for your idea. Or Hollywood. They basically said that this movie will be mostly if not all in WWII setting. The only way they could pull it off as a historical peice on a superhero like Captain America. Without making it a mess at the box office.
And if you go to your local comic store. If you pick up Ultimate Origins number 2 featuring Captain America. The cover is of a more "real" modern Cap costume. And the last page you can see maybe something what you were getting at as more of a military uniform.

[Z28 Autobot]

here is a link to the "modern" Ultimates Cap suit.

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/...ULTORIG002.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/im...26370_640w.jpg

[Z28 Autobot]

just found the WWII era cap costume I was talking about..

[guitarded]

here is a link to the "modern" Ultimates Cap suit.

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/...ULTORIG002.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/im...26370_640w.jpg

Looks like he stole Aqua man's suit and Cap'd it out

I'm a bit confused now....Will or will there not be an Avengers Movie from Hollywood?

WWII setting for a Cap movie is cool........but a blue suit still stands out in a crowd!... Know what I mean......maybe grey would work, at least for that era

[Devastator]

I'm a bit confused now....Will or will there not be an Avengers Movie from Hollywood?

There will. Count on it more than a JLA movie. Zak Penn is writing a Cap movie and Avengers.

[elemental fantasy]

I wouldn't hold my breath right now on Capt. or the Avengers. Captain was set for 2009. Now 2011, every 4 years they try to do it. Hollywood doesn't want to. There have been MANY story lines thrown out there by many writers. That's why I say Hollywood isnt really formulating a script.
As far as all the world war 2 costumes for the capt. I have seen, most of them will make him a target as he sticks out like a sore thumb, plus, still, unpractical, I wanna go into a battle field armed to the teeth, not with some leather pads and a shield because I have moral values, forget that!!!

If Zak Penn get's the helm to write, mark my word, he'll fuck it all up!!! (his work sucks ass big time) Capt. doesn't need to stay as a period piece. But could work as one. Either way, this is still a modern society we live in no matter what period film we watch about the U.S. somebody patriotic like the captain in the comics will BOMB hard in today's society regardless of when the film is set. And that's really the only reason to keep his ass in wwII is for patriotism, which is lost now.

Hey, guitarded, you kinda look like the captain...:lol

It also really pisses me off that the studios are letting all these actors helm multi million $ directing jobs who have never really directed anything before.:wtf I think that's because the studio can control the shit out of them, unlike lifelong directors.

[guitarded]

Hey, guitarded, you kinda look like the captain...:lol

Well, my first name is Steve ........maybe Captain Canada?

It's settled then.....For now on ...You can call me Captain

[Devastator]

What I heard been planned is that the Cap movie is a "prequel" of sorts to the Avengers movie which why they changed the title to The First Avenger. Also the 2011 release date probably spring with the summer release of Avengers.