But mostly the twins and Soundwave. That would be awesome.
But mostly the twins and Soundwave. That would be awesome.
BLITZWING should bethere
he can transform both into a tank and a jet
But Motormaster would so cool as the creepy Truck
Ask SPIELBERG how to do it
He made the truck look so sinister in "DUEL"
Jazz - Because main characters just shouldn't die :P Or at least their death should have greater meaning than a quarter second delay. Maybe if he sacrificed himself for all the rest of his allies that would have had more of a touch. But he just sorta got snagged, took a few meaningless shots, and got ripped apart.
Mirage - Love his abilities, keeping his "i dont really care attitude"
Insecticons - Think of all the chaos they can cause. The enemy isn't too strong, isn't entirely for the decepticons, but can form a strong temporary alliance. *Pictures hundreds of 3 foot bots flying into a city*
Jetfire - Autobot scientist, ex-Decepticon collaborator, and badass jet
Grimlock - Autobot warrior, ex-Decepticon gladiator, and badass tank
Springer - Autobot soldier, the only guy you want watching your back, and badass, laid-back, wise-cracking, sword-swinging triple-changer
I think the movie should have:
Soundwave saving megatron
Destructicons in some form, It would be the bomb digity to see multiple robots coming together to form a bigger one, but with a Michael Bay vision on it.
Ultra Magnus to help fight against the destructicons.
I'd scrap the idea of the huge aircraft carrier as "Tidalwave"
I think that Mr. Bay should touch up on the Dinobots, how could he make them work in our world? Easy!! The same way they do it in the G1 series, the autobots make them! Hypathetically speaking, if the autobots needed help with the decepticons, they could make the Dinobots with the help of sam. With Steven Spielbergs experience with Dino's, the finished product could be EPIC!! If you were Bay, you still have some options as too how you can make this real, skin textured like real dino's (Jurassic Park), or have them metal-looking, avoiding arguments over "fitting in" our world. I really liked the 1986 movie as a kid, and another one of my favorites is Blur, he could be some good comic relief, as well as a nasty ass sports car with nitrous or something. Last but not least, Skyfire. He crashes on earth, much like megatron does, while flying around with Starscream remember? He jumps back and forth from autobot to decepticon, I just thought it was a good dynamic.
wheeljack, arcee, prowl, mirage, ultra magnus
unicron, galvatron, dead end, brawl, skywarp
glad jazz is gone too, couldn't stand him in the movie.
The reason I am so behind the idea of Galvatron is that it brings back Megatron as a more powerful challenge and it intros Unicron as well. And I agree I wasn't a big fan of Jazz in the movie.
You seem like a very angry person.
Well thats your opinion, one that isn't shared by the public at large.
Unicron is one of the most popular Transformers overall, he has appeared in almost every incarnation of the Transformers. And The fact that he is such and overwhelming force is what makes him impressive, he is the Transformer version of Galactus.
And allot of people found Megatron very interesting. And the next logical step is Galvatron. And they are different, when he was Megatron, he was more of a military general. When he became Galvatron he was more of a king, a ruler and if you watch the G1 Cartoons he behaved very differently after he became Galvatron.
They absolutely behaved differently, but from a story-telling POV, they were exactly the same: over-the-top, one-dimensional villains. "I want to be powerful and feared and kill good guys, mwuah ha ha!" Boring.
And I'm not angry, I just wish people would stop talking about Unicron like there is anything more to him than a big booming voice. Great story telling is two Autobots in a trench, pinned down by Decepticon fire, wondering whether it's really worth living through another thousand years of war. Good story telling is not everyone pulling together one last time to fend off yet another big strong bad guy. And I can't imagine getting one decent action sequence out of a bunch of tiny 'bots shooting at an enormous planet-guy.
But thats how all villains are.
And it would be a space battle if they fought against Unicron. It would probably be like FF2 where he is just a big threat that appears at the end and Prime does his thing with the Matrix.
1. He wasn't in G1
2. He was mostly dead in G2
3. He was not a Transformer in the Marvel comics, he was a god
4. He made tiny cameos or was completely absent from the latter day comics
5. He was not in Beast Wars
6. In the Armada trilogy, he was basically a god
7. He wasn't in Bay's movie
...still not angry
How about Darth Vader? Manipulated by his friends, lost his wife and mother.
Commodus in Gladiator? Rejected by his father and his sister.
Gollum in Lord of the Rings? Manipulated and abused by an evil spirit.
Roy in Blade Runner? Forced into military service and condemned to an early death.
These villains are all complex individuals with personal histories that explain why exactly they are who they are and why they do what they do. They aren't random, power-mad maniacs. They all want specific things for understandable reasons. A good villain is a character that you can identify with, even if it's only for a second.
Well Megatrons mission was to kill Optimus and wipe out the Autobots.
Galvatron never cared much about killing any one specific Autobot or even making sure they were all wiped out. He was more about Universal domination.
OK, but why? Just because they feel like it? If so, aren't the Autobots only fighting back to survive? If so, they aren't "good", they just want to stay alive. Good vs Evil has to be about more than just labeling one giant fighting robot "good" and the other giant fighting robot "bad". For instance, IDW has a new comic miniseries coming out right now in which Megatron rises to his position after being a slave worker, so his motivation is sort of like racial revenge. That's much more interesting than "Killing is fun."
Sorry for interrupting your discussion here, but i still want to go back to the roots of this topic.
First of all i want to see Soundwave in the second movie. As all here do, i think. He was great decepticon and can be even greater in the movie with right design and story.
They must return Megatron somehow as well, because, i think, they haven't yet developed decepticons relationships enough. It would be great to see and listen to some conversations between them.
And at last a very unusual opinion. I really want to see Sky Lynx in this. I loved his character and really want them to bring him in this movie. After redesign, of course. Size and unusual appearance, i believe, are the main problems, but they can be easily solved. He may be smaller, just a little bigger than usual earth space shuttle. As for appearance... Well, there are rumors with dinobots being included in this movie, why not include him as well? Anyway, i don't care about his design (only some noticable details-homages from G1), i just want him to be there somehow with his personality. Some great and funny scenes are guaranteed. I'm already dreaming of his first appearance scene (and musical theme as well). Yeah, i I'm his personal fan, sorry...
So, here's my rather peculiar position.
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I hope they put Springer in.
I agree with the concept art that is soundwave, but one small alteration, make the optic lights of his eyes horiziontal like in the cartoon, this forum is getting better with posts like that, an armored car is a top idea. the vent on the chest ejects ravage and co,
LOL Does anyone want to see Perceptor in it?
What about MIRAGE
He could turn invisible, he had doubts about the cause he was fighting for and I gues Michael Bay would just love his big shoulder Rocket Laucher (just as me)
So a great character really
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1. Grimlock - Without a doubt. The autobots are good guys, and thats great, but from the last movie, they need some help in the fighting department. Grimlock is supposed to be the only transformer that can rival Optimus or Megatron. The autobots need someone who can take some hits and put some hits out to help even the odds and put them in their place a bit.
2. Soundwave - You can't have Starscream without Soundwave.
3. Optimus Prime - Please for whatever Hasbro publicity or new toylines reasons, do NOT kill Optimus Prime or remove him from the movies. And please, if he fights Megatron again, let him give a little bit of damage back, he is supposed to be a pretty bad dude.
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