Transformers 2 is a great opportunity for car companies

[darthrage]

I don't think car companies really knew how big the first Transformers movie could be. They were probably thinking they were just going to use the cars to blow up or just background fodder. They also thought it was just another dumb car movie.

The reason why GM got into it was because of Michael Bay's relationship with them.

So now with Transformers 2, there are so many different car companies involved. When you really think about it, this is the biggest and best opportunity for a car company to get their products plugged without setting up a booth at an Auto Show. They just donate it to the production or present them to the production to see if its suitable for the movie.

Now we got not only American car companies involved but Japanese and European. It is going to one huge action packed car commercial!! Not that its a bad thing. So many people it was a big GM commercial. My thoughts to that........SO WHAT??

Today the latest blog entry states that there is a Smart Car and a Toyota Yaris. So you can really tell the car companies are really trying to get their cars in the movie.

I've seen so many reports of cars in the movie that really stand out but who actually knows if they're just for background. Its possible that the car companies donate the cars to the production. I'm sure the Smart Car and the Toyota Yaris won't actually transform.

Look at how well the movie help sell the actual cars of the Autobots. And so many people painted their Ford Mustang to look like Barricade.

So the car companies definitely know that because this movie is coming out, they're definitely jumping in on the opportunity to market their products.

[Z28 Autobot]

Look at how well the movie help sell the actual cars of the Autobots. And so many people painted their Ford Mustang to look like Barricade.

Ummm what?? Lets see the Hummer was a fabrication..and not a real HUMMER, and did not see a sales jump because of TF.

The GMC Topkick? You see a lot of these heavy haulers around? Not me? In fact it is very much and still is a nitch truck. But to say how well it sells now because of TF?

Jazz? The solstice is the top selling roadster in the U.S. beating out the miata for that class. It might of helped sales a bit but by how much? Not to the point where we see many silver "Jazz" Poncho's running around.

Prime? Dont think many truckers are converting thier trucks to Prime..

Bumblebee..well sure it helped it sales..ohh wait its not on sale till 2009..so hows is that? If anything it WILL help sales. But the Camaro has been in the spotlight since 06 as far as cars go and the inticipation is has for production. If anythign I will give you that TF will help Camaro's sell..

and last..not an autobot. but Barricade..how many have turned thier Mustangs into cop cars?? I only know of ONE..and that guy is here..

I just think your taking speculation on other cars way to much..Yaris and Smart? Yea maybe but are you sure? You think GM would not expand thier lineup in the movie before Bay goes with another company...GM has
Buick Cadillac Chevrolet GMC Holden HUMMER Opel Pontiac Saab Saturn Vauxhall

10 brands that they can pull cars from..why would the chinese police cars be Chevy Malibu's if he was going with another company.
and to the extent of saying a Yaris? Why not a FJ cruiser or something that flagships the brand.

I think if anything Saleen will be back with some more toys? But to say that TF now has an international cast of cars the legal and logistics of it are mind boggling..and not something I think Bays ready to pull off for this movie..untill more proof I think these are just background cars..

Beleive me I would love to see some cars..like Sideswipe and Sunstreaker as Vipers..Bluestreak as a WRX. and so on..but would like to see more as far as car companies HAVE signed on to TF than just speculation..cus there is none out there that says to the oposite:lol

and to make it more of a point dont you think GM likes the attention and I am sure made a good effort to be the only product placement or the major one in the movie?

[darthrage]

doesn't matter. You're just pointing out cars that are one of a kind. The fact is that, its a great way for media exposure.

Basically, what the first movie is did and is doing for the Camaro, the 2nd movie can for for alot of other cars and that is boost awareness and exposure to the general public.

If I was the owner of a car company, I'd definitely be jumping on the opportunity to get my new model out in the movie before all the openings are taken up by other companies.

Did you see the old Camaro on eBay?? Nobody would've bought it before the movie was made if it had that color scheme. Or at least it would not have sold for that much.

Oh yeah and not to mention all those commercials from Chevy that had all their cars (that were not even in the movie) in mid-Transform before you see the actual car. To a car company, Transformers is a terrific marketing strategy.

Sure the Ratchet vehicle was a custom job but that was the least favorited of them all. I'm sure lots of people are waiting for the hardtop and spoiler to be available to install on their Solstice. And remember when there was a guy who made their own Optimus? People went there to take photos of the thing.

Fact is, that this is a great marketing opportunity for any car company, not just GM and I can tell that many car companies are really getting in on this.

Of course Bay, who already has connections with GM is still going to make good use of GM cars.

But you're definitely going to see other brands out there from Europe and Japan. It doesn't mean that they're necessarily going to be characters in the movie but definitely background content.

I noticed that in the first movie, even the background cars were alot of GM cars. I think alot of other car companies didn't know what the movie essentially could be in their business minded eyes, and that was a 2 hour car commercial. You can't deny that when TF3 comes out, that it will be something that the president of a car company would consider to be as part of their marketing if they feel it is suitable for them.

[Sillypuddy]

Actually, the Topkick did see a minor spike in sales... the number one Top Kick dealer in the country last year was in Flint, MI... there was an increase in sales due to the movie...my buddy works at the dealership....granted it really wasn't a blip on the radar for GM.... the Top Kick and the Chevy Kodiak are going to be built by International now...GM sold the manufacturing rights to them a couple of months ago... I do agree that being in the movie may bring a certain amount of exposure to any model, but it would have to be a feature/tent-pole project car like the camaro--- If GM wanted to see a chance of sales improving due to the movie, they should have had more than Megan advertising the Solstice--- there needed to be a Jazz edition above and beyond the GXP... same for the TopKick-- coincidently, the Ironhide version of the TopKick if you wanted one sold for, If I am not mistaken, roughly $118,000.00. Yikes!! Monroe Truck was on of the companies that was doing the aftermarket work on it.

[taybrian1]

I've seen a lot of topkicks around my town lately. Then again, I live in a town with a lot of rich doctors. As for the others, I've seen a lot of Jazz's in other cities, a lot of Bumblebee (someone has one at the end of my sisters block,) and one Optimus that I knew wasn't from the movie because they aren't even filming near hear. Haven't seen any Ratchets, but he is a hard one with the gas prices these days. As for me, I don't care what car I'm getting but I'm painting it like Bumblebee. I think people would be more shocked that a girl is driving it than the color.

[megatron42]

don't tell me were gonna see a ford F-150 as a con or a bot

[tigerhawk01]

hey what would be wrong with a lightning or something of that nature or an SRT10 pick up huh ??? why not ??? cuz its not a cheby?? huh ??? :wtf cant we have a few other vehicles???

[Z28 Autobot]

I've seen a lot of topkicks around my town lately. Then again, I live in a town with a lot of rich doctors. As for the others, I've seen a lot of Jazz's in other cities, a lot of Bumblebee (someone has one at the end of my sisters block,) and one Optimus that I knew wasn't from the movie because they aren't even filming near hear. Haven't seen any Ratchets, but he is a hard one with the gas prices these days. As for me, I don't care what car I'm getting but I'm painting it like Bumblebee. I think people would be more shocked that a girl is driving it than the color.

your talking about the 76 Camaro right?

[Z28 Autobot]

doesn't matter. You're just pointing out cars that are one of a kind. The fact is that, its a great way for media exposure.
Basically, what the first movie is did and is doing for the Camaro, the 2nd movie can for for alot of other cars and that is boost awareness and exposure to the general public.

You just said GM got sales from these cars. Realistically this is not MnM's or Coke. A movie tie in like this is not a bag of popcorn. I do not see people running out buying a Solstice just because it was in TF. In fact Solstice sales kinda dropped from the previous year (due to the Saturn Sky). I dont think anyone went out after seeing the Chevy commercial with the Silverado TF and saying I need to plunk down my 30K and have that truck..actually one of GM's best commercials to date and happens to be one of Bays directorial was a huge sales gain for them not to mention the new cars.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_UTMDcS-on8&feature=related

It is exaclty what you said just free marketing in terms of views on screen compared to cost. Thats all. A huge commercial. And for one car..Camaro..Like I said if anything this will give an already popular car a huge boost in sales..but the other..like mentioned topkick is not all GM anymore (if true) and HUMMER? Well they might be gone before the movie even comes out..yea HUMMER might not be in GM's portfolio anymore soon. ..as well as Pontiac..and back to the GMC..that too is having problems and might be gone by July of 09..Pontiac GMC and Hummer are right now in a huge state of flux and might be totally different or gone in a few years.
Like I said no one went in and bought a Cobalt just because they saw it transform in a commercial..this is not Hasbro..but again I go back. YES it WILL bring people into buy the Camaro..

If I was the owner of a car company, I'd definitely be jumping on the opportunity to get my new model out in the movie before all the openings are taken up by other companies.

To this point all we see is background cars..if thats car companies jumping at the chance..thats not the best way to make a marketing move..the Smart and the likes..well they are supposed to be in France. Well I could see them used for just that euro cars..does that mean Merc. is in the movie? No. As well as saying Ford or GM is every movie with cop cars..no they dont credit the brands to that extent..not at all. If its a smart car thats an autobot then yes I could see it but if its a prop..thats not using the car like it should in the movie..
I have not seen any evidence stating there is going to be other prominant brands in the movie..should know by now..but we dont..and should of been said and done since filming is going on right now..contracts and finalizing product placement is hard to do on short notice..
Like I said GM has 10 brands and Saleen..thats over 150 different cars to choose from from the 11 brands stated..not to mention the concepts that are being put out there..again happen to be GM..What I am saying I think we would of seen or heard something about other car companies jumping on board with this..could it still happen? Yes it could. And I hope it does but it looks like its going to be GM featured again and if any other car company comes in..well it better be more than just a Cameo rolling by..

Did you see the old Camaro on eBay?? Nobody would've bought it before the movie was made if it had that color scheme. Or at least it would not have sold for that much.

Yea its from a movie...ANY movie car is going to sell for huge dollars..Thats why 78 Trans Am's are popular too..only reason..

Oh yeah and not to mention all those commercials from Chevy that had all their cars (that were not even in the movie) in mid-Transform before you see the actual car. To a car company, Transformers is a terrific marketing strategy.

again yes..it is but more on just getting the brand out there for your eyes..its more of putting it in your head about GM not just seeing the movie and running out to buy that Pontiac G6 since you seen it transform. But I covered that already..

Sure the Ratchet vehicle was a custom job but that was the least favorited of them all. I'm sure lots of people are waiting for the hardtop and spoiler to be available to install on their Solstice. And remember when there was a guy who made their own Optimus? People went there to take photos of the thing.

The hardtop and spoiler can be bought for the Solstice. Yea and the guy that made his own Barricade..yea hes on this site..and all the Batmobiles and all the K.I.T.T.'s and all the kids with moms corollas running around after Fast n Furious came out thinking they have that car..heck someone just made a movie correct Family Truckster..people make movie/ TV cars of thier favorite movies TV shows. And yes I am guilty I would buy the Camaro in yellow and black stripes..

Fact is, that this is a great marketing opportunity for any car company, not just GM and I can tell that many car companies are really getting in on this.
Of course Bay, who already has connections with GM is still going to make good use of GM cars.
But you're definitely going to see other brands out there from Europe and Japan. It doesn't mean that they're necessarily going to be characters in the movie but definitely background content.

That is what I am asking..who??? and again a background car is not marketing or product placement..thats like saying every guy in a movie in every scene gets a credit on the screen. No..its just background people..they are background cars..I saw a nice Charger in the TF battle scene but I know there is no "Thanks to Chrysler motor company for the use of the Dodge Charger" in the credits.. If its a background no importance car then its not a marketing plan..its just that background..if thats all Subaru or Honda could get and still have GM full featured thats lame IMO.

I noticed that in the first movie, even the background cars were alot of GM cars. I think alot of other car companies didn't know what the movie essentially could be in their business minded eyes, and that was a 2 hour car commercial. You can't deny that when TF3 comes out, that it will be something that the president of a car company would consider to be as part of their marketing if they feel it is suitable for them.

Okay..again you go back and say all the car companies are commited..think about this. you ever wonder why Bay went this Saleen and not Ford?? Think about it..There is more red tape to go through and screen time to figure out with multiple car companies...lawyers and contracts and legal matters on these things mentioned above...and how they are used or destroyed..think about it what if Volvo was cast as a Decepticon..how can Volvo spin that off?? A very peaceful brand name to many families..you can't..or if the Prius is used as a car that blows up a forest..car companies want thier cars to be fautured the best way possible..and usually not as a bad guy..again thats why I ask..why is Saleen in it and not Ford..If anything your going to see cars from smaller companies like exotic companies that might make a run in this movie..not full blown mass market companies..I would say you would see a Lambo in there before you see a Tundra..again going back to..why..the answer has been said many times before in the old posts on the old forum..and I think for the same reasons and even more they apply here also..

[darthrage]

Sorry I'm not a car buff like you and I don't over-analyze sales figures and how many of a specific type of car I see on the road at any given point in time.

I'm sorry but it is a fact that Transformers 2 is going to be an even bigger car commercial than the first one, which is not a bad thing. Its a movie about transforming cars so they of course the cars are going to put in the best light because they are the stars.

So with new characters coming about, they're definitely going to help boost the awareness and exposure of them for future sales. :deadhorse1:

[Z28 Autobot]

Sorry I'm not a car buff like you and I don't over-analyze sales figures and how many of a specific type of car I see on the road at any given point in time.

I'm sorry but it is a fact that Transformers 2 is going to be an even bigger car commercial than the first one, which is not a bad thing. Its a movie about transforming cars so they of course the cars are going to put in the best light because they are the stars.

So with new characters coming about, they're definitely going to help boost the awareness and exposure of them for future sales. :deadhorse1:

over analize? Umm neither do I..dont know where that came from..I am going on your original statement that there are all these car companies now on board with TF..so far that is not been proven..
and how you said that it gave GM sales of actual autobots..you could only buy one made by Pontiac and GMC the others were not so easy to find or purchase..and only the true replica is of the Saleen S281 that Saleen actually sells. And how you say so many people are making thier Mustang look like Barricade..again not proven.

All it is is your trying to pass your speculation off as fact to people on here. Is the movie going to be a huge car commercial. sure but to say that Toyota and Smart are in the movie as background cars..no not marketing...just extras..The main draw will be the revamped Bumblebee and the new silver...(edit) opps almost said it in here. The new silver car thats been spied..Along with the micor cars from Chevy..
All I can say is I agree on the marketing that is basically the idea of using GM or any other company..but with a movie like TF its very unlikely to be more than just GM Saleen and maybe one smaller car maker..ya understand what I am saying..:lol

[darthrage]

you're speaking as a general audience. Sure alot of us don't care that a Toyota Yaris and Smart car but in the eyes of the company, I'm sure they are happy that their car is featured in such a high profile movie.

[Devastator]

you guys are making me dizzy

[darthrage]

you guys are making me dizzy

that's why I kept my responses short. I barely read anything he wrote it was information overload and giving me a headache

[Z28 Autobot]

that's why I kept my responses short. I barely read anything he wrote it was information overload and giving me a headache

Wow your talking like I left the room on a public messageboard..And I underlined your problem..^^^^^

Okay wan't it short and sweet since you have the attention span of a child..And since you can not figure out what I said in my loooong posts..

here can you understand this?

Don't post lies, half truths and things you obviously have no TIME to comprehend. Passing them off as FACTS. When at this point in time its more than just random speculation on your part.

Hows that for short and to the point...:wtf is wrong with people..:lol:deadhorse1:

[darthrage]

I'm sorry but it is a fact that Transformers 2 is a great opportunity for car companies. That's a fact. I dunno why you keep disagreeing but its totally ok. You're entitled to your own opinion

[Z28 Autobot]

No that is the only thing I said I agreed on. Sure it would help any car company. Your leading people to beleive that there are all these car companies in the movie now. WRONG, you have no proof!

SO I say again.

Everything else you posted is like I said. lies, half truths and things you obviously have no TIME to comprehend. Passing them off as FACTS.

[darthrage]

Your leading people to beleive that there are all these car companies in the movie now.

There aren't?? Sheesh, I thought all the youtube videos and ACTUAL photos from the tranformers live blog had all the evidence to support the fact that these cars exist in the 2nd movie. I think you should check for yourself.

[Z28 Autobot]

There aren't?? Sheesh, I thought all the youtube videos and ACTUAL photos from the tranformers live blog had all the evidence to support the fact that these cars exist in the 2nd movie. I think you should check for yourself.

Okay before I go further here read this:

Actual product placement, according to ERMA.org, a Hollywood product placement association falls into two categories: products or locations that are obtained from manufacturers or owners to reduce the cost of production, and products deliberately placed into productions in exchange for fees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_placement

Finished reading? Now tell me by what your saying how are background cars product placement? They are not. A toyota, Ford or Honda driving by or in the background is not product placement by the company.

And like i have said only GM and Saleen are under contract for product placement for cars in the movie. And I have said that maybe 1-2 more smaller companies might be in this one.
Not like you stating MANY!

So now with Transformers 2, there are so many different car companies involved.

Now we got not only American car companies involved but Japanese and European.

Where? A Yaris and a Smart Car in a background scene? That is not product placement.

With what I have been telling you and what Wikipedia backs me up. Show me this "evidence" that backs up your claims...

Prove me wrong?




(and no the two cars following Bumblebee are GM, The Chevy Beat and the Chevy Trax.)

[darthrage]

doesn't matter, the fact is that those 2 cars are in the movie and they will be featured in a huge movie like Transformers 2, a movie about vehicles that transform. Whether or not they transform is not the issue. Its just that the cars are in it.

This is the same thing that applies to an extra (aka background talent). If an extra is in Transformers, he or she will have Transformers to add to her credits. Its something to add to their resume and thus expanding their career (more exposure). Going back to cars, the cars (background cars) will have been featured in a blockbuster movie (more exposure, once again). There will be a small handful of people who will buy a car based on the fact that it was featured in the movie. Hell, I never thought the Ford Mustang and Pontiac Solstice was cool until I saw Barricade and I'll bet I'm not the only one.

I understand what you're saying about background cars and product placement but even movies like in The Island, there were a bunch of cars that were only background fodder and even though they were in there for only 1 second, I totally noticed them. Its because they really stood out regardless of the fact that it was amongst many other cars. For some reason that one stood out like a sore thumb. It doesn't need to be driven by a main character to stand out. Its just because of the way Michael Bay shoots things. And not only are we dealing with a Michael Bay movie this time, but a Transformers movie.

You can see cars in any movie but I could care less for them. But in a Transformers film, you will take some kind of notice at every car including the cars that don't transform (the tow truck, the SUVs that the Sector 7 guys drove, the red Ford van that drives somewhere in the back as Devastator shoots into the crowd, the Escalade with the 2 chicks). Michael Bay shoots the movie like a commercial and puts his things like this in a very good light, we all know this. And something like a Smart car will get noticed. He doesn't just pick cars like that without some people noticing them. This is Michael Bay we're talking about, not just any director. You should know this. Any other director would've used old sedans, ugly stationwagons and hatchbacks.

I don't see how a car being in a Transformers movie can be a bad thing, right??

This exact same concept applies to the dancing pad video game that was played by Glen's cousin. It probably wasn't direct product placement but Michael Bay wanted it there because it appeared amusing. However I'm sure that when some people saw the film, some of them thought "that looks like fun". And the makers of the game were also thinking "Hey!! Cool! Our game is featured in the biggest movie of the summer!!".

Unless you truly don't believe anybody would actually think that, then there's nothing to debate about.

What do you want me to prove you wrong about the Toyota Yaris and Smart Car? Proof that they exist in the movie?? Look at the blog videos and photos.

Proof that they're not product placement? If it is, so what? If it isn't, so what? What I am trying to state is that both cars will be featured in a big movie like Transformers and it is a high possibilty that more than one person will notice it and if they noticed it, then marketing is in full effect, whether they planned it or not.......AND that is a good thing for a company.

Let's say that it is direct product placement and nobody noticed it. The company still has the right to claim that their product was featured in a high profile movie. Now let's say that it WAS NOT direct product placement, just background fodder or simple props that DID NOT get noticed, lets say for example a parked car that Shia Labeouf and Megan Fox walked by in a scene. The car company will still say, "hey look, there's one of our cars." And essentially that means, their product was used in a BIG movie called Transformers. And that is a huge statement.

You'll probably think, "well that can apply to any movie that has nothing to do with cars." Very true, BUT this is Transformers we're talking about. People in the audience are out there looking for things to look for. We all know this because Transformers (the first movie) was FULL of easter eggs. There are people who watched the film JUST to look for product placement (direct or indirect).....just look back at the threads (and in other forum boards) and you'll find threads that say "list the product placement".

Bottom line, in a movie like this, products get noticed and that is a great marketing device for (car) companies. You don't need sales figures to tell you this. The movie is, after all, directed by someone who has directed many TV commercials. The product really doesn't need a 30 second TV spot to get exposure to the world.

Even that short scene where the old Volkswagon bug that was hit by Bumblebee's car door at the dealership probably sparked someone's decision to buy a Volkswagon bug for nostalgic reasons. I don't have proof of that, nor do I need proof. Its just something that ANYONE can AGREE is a possibility.

[Z28 Autobot]

wait..... let me go back and reread this..

okay back..

BWAHAHAHAHA

oh my god your a moron..Not only did your last post contradict everything you said in your original post but it blew apart everything in all your other posts following it...
Let me point out two flaws in your wonderful contradiction to yourself..

You can see cars in any movie but I could care less for them. But in a Transformers film, you will take some kind of notice at every car including the cars that don't transform (the tow truck, the SUVs that the Sector 7 guys drove, the red Ford van that drives somewhere in the back as Devastator shoots into the crowd, the Escalade with the 2 chicks). Michael Bay shoots the movie like a commercial and puts his things like this in a very good light, we all know this. And something like a Smart car will get noticed. He doesn't just pick cars like that without some people noticing them. This is Michael Bay we're talking about, not just any director. You should know this. Any other director would've used old sedans, ugly stationwagons and hatchbacks.

You have no CLUE how a movie is shot..not a clue..and the "I could care less" it did not matter. Good reasoning and shows how much you do not know..

second

Proof that they're not product placement? If it is, so what? If it isn't, so what? What I am trying to state is that both cars will be featured in a big movie like Transformers and it is a high possibilty that more than one person will notice it and if they noticed it, then marketing is in full effect, whether they planned it or not.......AND that is a good thing for a company

IT IS NOT MARKETING IF THE COMPANY IS NOT INVOLVED! It is not product placement it is nothing but for a lack of better term backdrop. Thats it! Again you have no idea how a movie is shot..
Do I? more than you do and actually have participated in backdrops for a shoot here in Boston. The backdrop was my car along with other cars from the area..But it had no point or part of the movie but backdrop.
Go back and read your first post your saying all these companies are involved yet you go and say this:

Proof that they're not product placement? If it is, so what? If it isn't, so what?

Exactly my point..thank you for outing yourself in your lie... (and I wouldnt doubt that there might be an edited post little posted mark in his first post now that hes just caught himself in his own fabrication..)

And I will say it one last time..PROOF that they are there by the companies you have stated..Toyota and Smart are involved in TF. Not that the Yaris and the Smart are in the movie..THE COMPANIES...they are signed on..That more car companies are LEGALLY signed on to TF. and not just background..as you stated that Toyota and Smart are signed onto TF. Its in your first post..another lie??? Yup..

Sorry a car zipping by in front of Sam is not marketing it is not anything but a PROP..get it?

By your way of thinking we saw blue skies in the movie so we must thank GOD for us using it in the movie..since its there and we have no way or replacing it with something else I guess people will know that blue sky means air..to breath and to live..thank god that Bay used blue sky in the movie instead of green cus you know how God feels about stuff like that the whole 7 days and all..even if he is not he knows we will remember to breath air and when we see blue sky its in fact air...:wtf
Dont want any lawyers from "Jesus and Jesus attorneys for god"to take down Bay....dear lord...


..You know what forget it. You just did a 180 to your first post to your last and shows that you have no clue whats going on in the movie..and all I said was before:
Everything you posted is like I said. lies, half truths and things you obviously have no TIME to comprehend. Passing them off as FACTS.


bwahahaha:deadhorse1:

[darthrage]

Bolding, typing in all capitals and name-calling doesn't get yourself heard. The typing in capitals annoys the hell outta everyone. I've never even seen it done in this board, until now.

So you don't agree with the point of the thread? You disagree (as in the opposite of agree) that Transformers 2 is a great opportunity for car companies to market their product? So the opposite would be that Transformers 2 is a poor opportunity for car companies?? Ooooooooo Kaaaaaaay. Gee, I really dunno how to respond to that.

Well there goes your credibility. You're running around screaming LIES LIES LIES! Its just a movie. Calm down. I think your inner car buff has gotten way over your head and you need to calm down cuz you're bringing lots of drama into this thread. What are you talking about with blue skies and air? Once again calm down, just relax.

Just because you claim know everything there is to know about product placement doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you, just like how you don't have to agree with me. You're calling me a LIAR because I can't provide proof that a car company signed onto the movie? If you really want to find out, call them yourself and then get back to me, ok? Actually don't get back to me about it because you're the one who's worked up about it and perhaps finding out can make your mind at peace because its obviously bothering you so much. Just because you don't believe something, doesn't mean its a lie. That's like saying "You're a liar about the Audi R8 being a Decepticon because I don't believe that's possible." Why the hell would anyone lie about that?

You're getting way too technical with the car companies. Saleen Mustang? Ford Mustang? Its looks all the same to the general audience. But if you wanna totally geek out about it, then ok, fine....knock yourself out. Ok you're a car buff. Good for you, you must be very proud of yourself. The movie is one big very entertaining commercial and I'm sorry that you can't deal with that. Sheeesh. I'm tired of repeating myself. Its just a movie and you don't need to get worked up over an observation.

[JohnnyBibs]

I don't see how it could be advertisement for the car companies? I'm not going to go out and buy a tow truck just because I saw it in Transformers. :P

[darthrage]

I don't see how it could be advertisement for the car companies? I'm not going to go out and buy a tow truck just because I saw it in Transformers. :P

Of course not but the Ford Logo was all over it. That in itself was advertising for Ford. You don't gotta go and buy the tow truck, its just so that you notice that Ford was there. The 2nd movie is going to be an even bigger car commercial than the first one already was.

[JohnnyBibs]

Of course not but the Ford Logo was all over it. That in itself was advertising for Ford. You don't gotta go and buy the tow truck, its just so that you notice that Ford was there. The 2nd movie is going to be an even bigger car commercial than the first one already was.

To an extant. Only main Transformering cars are going to get hit the most, if anything. I'm sure a few people will be buying a new Camaro when they come out, but not not much of other than that. I think people will only buy a few key cars.