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    Quote Originally Posted by redqueenar View Post
    The war in Iraq costs the US federal government $12 billion dollars a month, according to Time magazine. I remember, years ago, when it all started that Bush admitting that he knew that many people in America were against the idea of going to war but that he thought it was the right thing to do and therefore he was going to do it. The President of my nation--a nation I care for deeply, btw-- essentially told us flat out that he really didn't give a shit what we thought and was going to do it his own way. I fully realize that self-interest and ambition takes a person very far in life and there were aspects of his original position that were quite valid. But it has gone too far. (The man had an personal exit strategy for Vietnam, but not this one. )
    Oh god, don't even get me started on the current administration!

    I'm just worried how I'm gonna be able to enjoy summer with gas prices so high. Yesterday I went to a gas station and UNLEADED costed $3.89 there. Seriously, wtf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redqueenar View Post
    I'm all for socialist behavior, but socialist government doesn't work because it doesn't account for human nature. Johnny Depp thought France was totally awesome and better than America--until his little girl got blood poisoning. Princess Diana died in the street because calling the ambulance is actually not the first thing they do in that country. That would too hasty.

    Free things tend to be worth what you pay for. Come ride the MUNI buses with me sometime and I'll show you.
    Well said Queen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    Oh god, don't even get me started on the current administration!

    I'm just worried how I'm gonna be able to enjoy summer with gas prices so high. Yesterday I went to a gas station and UNLEADED costed $3.89 there. Seriously, wtf?
    HOLY F***!! That crazy? And we were bitchin' that we have to pay $1:35 a litte here. (we canadians use litters instead of gallons.) That is nuts....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swift View Post
    HOLY F***!! That crazy? And we were bitchin' that we have to pay $1:35 a litte here. (we canadians use litters instead of gallons.) That is nuts....
    $1.35?!!!!!!!! Swift, I think I plan on being one of those immigrants you mentioned earlier.

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    $1.35?!!!!!!!! Swift, I think I plan on being one of those immigrants you mentioned earlier.
    A liter is less than a gallon dude. You'll be paying more per gallon than you would be here.
    I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't know what I'd do if I caught one. I don't have plans. I just do things. I'm not a schemer.

    I use a knife because guns are too quick. Otherwise, you can't savor all the emotions. You know who people are in their last moments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    $1.35?!!!!!!!! Swift, I think I plan on being one of those immigrants you mentioned earlier.
    Hmmm lets see, we have indonesian, chinies, japanise, and german imigrants right here in Fort st. John. A couple of New Yorkers too? Sounds interesting....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumblebee1983 View Post
    A liter is less than a gallon dude. You'll be paying more per gallon than you would be here.
    Hey what do you know, that's over $4 a gallon. So why should I even bother, that is what the price will be this summer. *cries*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    Hey what do you know, that's over $4 a gallon. So why should I even bother, that is what the price will be this summer. *cries*
    Exactly. It's a little cheaper here.
    I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't know what I'd do if I caught one. I don't have plans. I just do things. I'm not a schemer.

    I use a knife because guns are too quick. Otherwise, you can't savor all the emotions. You know who people are in their last moments.

    I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... stranger.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    Oh god, don't even get me started on the current administration!

    I'm just worried how I'm gonna be able to enjoy summer with gas prices so high. Yesterday I went to a gas station and UNLEADED costed $3.89 there. Seriously, wtf?
    It's over four bucks here in SF already. It's horrifying.

    If you can avoid it, don't buy water bottles. That plastic is made from petroleum and dangerous to reuse for drinking. Believe it or not, bottled water ultimately costs more than gasoline!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumblebee1983 View Post
    A liter is less than a gallon dude. You'll be paying more per gallon than you would be here.
    wow...I gotta start learnin' about that. *coughs; I'm failing math...*
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    Quote Originally Posted by redqueenar View Post
    It's over four bucks here in SF already. It's horrifying.

    If you can avoid it, don't buy water bottles. That plastic is made from petroleum and dangerous to reuse for drinking. Believe it or not, bottled water ultimately costs more than gasoline!
    Good to know there Queen!! Thanks.
    I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't know what I'd do if I caught one. I don't have plans. I just do things. I'm not a schemer.

    I use a knife because guns are too quick. Otherwise, you can't savor all the emotions. You know who people are in their last moments.

    I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... stranger.



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    Quote Originally Posted by redqueenar View Post
    It's over four bucks here in SF already. It's horrifying.

    If you can avoid it, don't buy water bottles. That plastic is made from petroleum and dangerous to reuse for drinking. Believe it or not, bottled water ultimately costs more than gasoline!
    I think I'm gonna have to ride my bike more often.

    Bottled water more than gas, I HEARD ABOUT THAT!!!

    No I never go for that crap I just get it right outta the tap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    I think I'm gonna have to ride my bike more often.

    Bottled water more than gas, I HEARD ABOUT THAT!!!

    No I never go for that crap I just get it right outta the tap!
    And unless you live in an underdeveloped nation, it's perfectly fine water. It's even fluoridated for you. Bottled water is a huge scam. Like they say, Evian is just naive spelled backward...
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    Quote Originally Posted by redqueenar View Post
    And unless you live in an underdeveloped nation, it's perfectly fine water. It's even fluoridated for you. Bottled water is a huge scam. Like they say, Evian is just naive spelled backward...
    Wow, and I'm usually the one who catches words spelled backwards. I didn't even catch that one.
    I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't know what I'd do if I caught one. I don't have plans. I just do things. I'm not a schemer.

    I use a knife because guns are too quick. Otherwise, you can't savor all the emotions. You know who people are in their last moments.

    I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... stranger.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumblebee1983 View Post
    Man oh man did this thread ever take off.

    Oh, and Smokescreen, no offense to Canadians, but I love it right here in the good ol' US of A. Canada healthcare isn't much better.

    Government run health care does not work. Look at New York and California. There's a TON of Medicare/Medicaid fraud that is bringing those state budgets down. Doctors won't get paid, and if you don't get paid, you don't work, right? Or don't have an incentive to work.

    Oh, and not to mention a six month wait for a x-ray of MRI. You could be dead by then. Here in America, you get it instantly.

    Trust me, I hear this ALL THE TIME from my boyfriend's father who is a doctor.
    I know quite a bit about all of the Medicare/Medicaid fraud. As I stated before, about 6 months ago I worked for the federal government answering phone calls to Medicare and Medicaid recipients. I had to explain everything about Part A (Hospital-in patient), Part B (Medical-doctor visits), and part C (combinations), and part D (Drug Plans). Not to mention the prices for services, drugs, supplies, people who were diabetics, and soliciting Liberty Mutual to callers when I knew my call wasn't being monitored. For the MOST part we can get an MRI right away IF the recipient has a medicare/medicaid card and it is valid. Yes doctors process the card right away to verify its accurate in most states. Yes we knew about the fraud that was being committed by hospitals, doctors etc in states such as California, New York, Florida, and Arizona (since arizona has become the new hot spot for seniors). The majority of the information that I could tell you all about can also be accessed at www.medicare.gov . I got so sick of the place so I quit working there. Plus sitting in a cubicle staring at a computer screen all day is not for me. (Watch Office Space if you want to know how I felt). Drugs are cheaper in Canada by quite a bit. For example if you chose a standard Humana PDP plan, a 30 day prescription of Lasix, Trichlorothiazide, Metoprolol, and Tramadol would come to approximately $60 a month. Most seniors take approximately 8 pills a day on average. Those 4 drugs alone can be purchased thru Canada's drug system at $5 each which would come to $20. With most of the drug plans, there are times when seniors face upwards to $3000 a month in drugs when they can be purchased thru Canada for 8 x $5 = $40.

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    The war in Iraq costs the US federal government $12 billion dollars a month, according to Time magazine. I remember, years ago, when it all started that Bush admitting that he knew that many people in America were against the idea of going to war but that he thought it was the right thing to do and therefore he was going to do it. The President of my nation--a nation I care for deeply, btw-- essentially told us flat out that he really didn't give a shit what we thought and was going to do it his own way. I fully realize that self-interest and ambition takes a person very far in life and there were aspects of his original position that were quite valid. But it has gone too far. (The man had an personal exit strategy for Vietnam, but not this one.
    What costs more per year than the the Iraq War?
    I hope the following 14 reasons are read over and over again
    until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of
    reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the
    following facts:

    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77
    2.$2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs
    such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
    http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
    English!

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../01/ldt.0.html
    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
    American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...1/ldt..01.html

    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and
    Social Services by the American taxpayers.
    http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html
    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's
    two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens.. In
    particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional
    crime problem in the US .

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...12/ldt.01.html
    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
    that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal
    aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs,
    cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from
    the Southern border. Homeland Security Report.

    http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
    12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41
    and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'

    http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to
    their countries of origin.

    http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
    14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex
    Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .'
    http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

    Total cost is a whooping ... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!

    If this doesn't bother you then just ignore this data, but on
    the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your
    neck, then say something about it to your congressman.


    Snopes is provided for doubters:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp

    Social Security Change For 2008

    The United States Senate voted to extend Social Security Benefits
    to Illegal Aliens beginning in 2008. The following are the
    senators who voted to give illegal aliens Social Security
    benefits. They are grouped by home state. If a state is not
    listed, there was no voting representative.


    Alaska : Stevens (R)
    Arizona : McCain (R)
    Arkansas : Lincoln (D) Pryor (D)
    California : Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)
    Colorado : Salazar (D)
    Connecticut : Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)
    Delaware : Biden (D) Carper (D)
    Florida : Martinez (R)
    Hawaii : Akaka (D) Inouye (D)
    Illinois : Durbin (D)
    Obama (D)
    Indiana : Bayh (D) Lugar (R)
    Iowa : Harkin (D)
    Kansas : Brownback (R)
    Louisiana : Landrieu (D)
    Maryland : Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D)
    Massachusetts : Kennedy (D) Kerry (D)
    Montana : Baucus (D)
    Nebraska : Hagel (R)
    Nevada : Reid (D)
    New Jersey : Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)
    New Mexico : Bingaman (D)
    New York : Clinton (D) Schumer (D)
    North Dakota : Dorgan (D)
    Ohio : DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)
    Oregon : Wyden (D)
    Pennsylvania : Specter (R)
    Rhode Island : Chafee (R) Reed (D)
    South Carolina : Graham (R)
    South Dakota : Johnson (D)
    Vermont : Jeffords (I) Leahy (D)
    Washington : Cantwell (D) Murray (D)
    West Virginia : Rockefeller (D), by Not Voting
    Wisconsin : Feingold (D) Kohl (D)



    THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION, UNLESS THEY DON'T MIND SHARING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS who didn't pay in a dime.



    Quote Originally Posted by redqueenar View Post
    And unless you live in an underdeveloped nation, it's perfectly fine water. It's even fluoridated for you. Bottled water is a huge scam. Like they say, Evian is just naive spelled backward...


    Quote Originally Posted by Bumblebee1983 View Post
    Wow, and I'm usually the one who catches words spelled backwards. I didn't even catch that one.
    Please tell me you're kidding me... I figured everybody had heard of that before..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokescreen_5 View Post
    I know quite a bit about all of the Medicare/Medicaid fraud. As I stated before, about 6 months ago I worked for the federal government answering phone calls to Medicare and Medicaid recipients. I had to explain everything about Part A (Hospital-in patient), Part B (Medical-doctor visits), and part C (combinations), and part D (Drug Plans). Not to mention the prices for services, drugs, supplies, people who were diabetics, and soliciting Liberty Mutual to callers when I knew my call wasn't being monitored. For the MOST part we can get an MRI right away IF the recipient has a medicare/medicaid card and it is valid. Yes doctors process the card right away to verify its accurate in most states. Yes we knew about the fraud that was being committed by hospitals, doctors etc in states such as California, New York, Florida, and Arizona (since arizona has become the new hot spot for seniors). The majority of the information that I could tell you all about can also be accessed at www.medicare.gov . I got so sick of the place so I quit working there. Plus sitting in a cubicle staring at a computer screen all day is not for me. (Watch Office Space if you want to know how I felt). Drugs are cheaper in Canada by quite a bit. For example if you chose a standard Humana PDP plan, a 30 day prescription of Lasix, Trichlorothiazide, Metoprolol, and Tramadol would come to approximately $60 a month. Most seniors take approximately 8 pills a day on average. Those 4 drugs alone can be purchased thru Canada's drug system at $5 each which would come to $20. With most of the drug plans, there are times when seniors face upwards to $3000 a month in drugs when they can be purchased thru Canada for 8 x $5 = $40.



    What costs more per year than the the Iraq War?
    I hope the following 14 reasons are read over and over again
    until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of
    reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the
    following facts:

    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77
    2.$2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs
    such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
    http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
    English!

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../01/ldt.0.html
    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
    American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...1/ldt..01.html

    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and
    Social Services by the American taxpayers.
    http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html
    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's
    two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens.. In
    particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional
    crime problem in the US .

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...12/ldt.01.html
    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
    that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal
    aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs,
    cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from
    the Southern border. Homeland Security Report.

    http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
    12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41
    and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'

    http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to
    their countries of origin.

    http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
    14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex
    Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .'
    http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

    Total cost is a whooping ... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!

    If this doesn't bother you then just ignore this data, but on
    the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your
    neck, then say something about it to your congressman.


    Snopes is provided for doubters:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp

    Social Security Change For 2008

    The United States Senate voted to extend Social Security Benefits
    to Illegal Aliens beginning in 2008. The following are the
    senators who voted to give illegal aliens Social Security
    benefits. They are grouped by home state. If a state is not
    listed, there was no voting representative.


    Alaska : Stevens (R)
    Arizona : McCain (R) Arkansas : Lincoln (D) Pryor (D)
    California : Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)
    Colorado : Salazar (D)
    Connecticut : Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)
    Delaware : Biden (D) Carper (D)
    Florida : Martinez (R)
    Hawaii : Akaka (D) Inouye (D)
    Illinois : Durbin (D)
    Obama (D) Indiana : Bayh (D) Lugar (R)
    Iowa : Harkin (D)
    Kansas : Brownback (R)
    Louisiana : Landrieu (D)
    Maryland : Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D)
    Massachusetts : Kennedy (D) Kerry (D)
    Montana : Baucus (D)
    Nebraska : Hagel (R)
    Nevada : Reid (D)
    New Jersey : Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)
    New Mexico : Bingaman (D)
    New York : Clinton (D) Schumer (D)
    North Dakota : Dorgan (D)
    Ohio : DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)
    Oregon : Wyden (D)
    Pennsylvania : Specter (R)
    Rhode Island : Chafee (R) Reed (D)
    South Carolina : Graham (R)
    South Dakota : Johnson (D)
    Vermont : Jeffords (I) Leahy (D)
    Washington : Cantwell (D) Murray (D)
    West Virginia : Rockefeller (D), by Not Voting
    Wisconsin : Feingold (D) Kohl (D)



    THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION, UNLESS THEY DON'T MIND SHARING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS who didn't pay in a dime.









    Please tell me you're kidding me... I figured everybody had heard of that before..
    Wowweee!!!

    And no, I'm not kidding. That never occurred to me.
    I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't know what I'd do if I caught one. I don't have plans. I just do things. I'm not a schemer.

    I use a knife because guns are too quick. Otherwise, you can't savor all the emotions. You know who people are in their last moments.

    I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... stranger.



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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelbay View Post
    Oh my god. SAG wants more than Directors and Writers? That's a smart tactic I guess. When are people going to understand, most importantly actors - we are at war - we are facing a major recession - our country is in dire need of being fixed - our country also has no money because we have given trillions to the Iraq war and we have NOT even started to pay for it - it is just paid right now by printing more money on presses - China owns our ass in every way. Why not strike on a business in a down fall. Just like the writer's they made pennies on the four extra months striking - when you do the real math and they are paying the price for it still - so many writer's out of work still!!! I want this business to thrive - I know the studio heads and they will punish those that defy them. Okay, be an idealist - but you will never get a better deal then the writer's or directors - only the same - the studio's will never allow it, don't kid yourself. The working actors don't want a strike - they have said so. Too many non working actors have a say which is crazy - maybe there are just too many actors?? Gosh I'm even a member of SAG, but I don't feel I've earned the right to vote in this guild.

    One hunch, the leaders of these guilds seem to like the limelight they get in the press, it becomes more about the ego in the room rather than something smart. Striking is not smart. Through the history in America, strikes in businesses have only gained the union worker 6% at the max - so take the emotion out of it and go for the 6%. A path to strike is not smart for the the hundreds of thousands of people in this business. Sanity needs to prevail here - talk real and talk the same talk as your union brothers - not more!

    I know little about the SAG or about this stuff in detail, but this is the internet and random people like me are just gonna post their opinions regardless.

    My uneducated opinion is as follows.


    This is lunacy. Actors cannot afford to strike.

    First of all, competition with TV shows/movies today is more fierce than it has ever been. Everything from internet to Xbox to import movies...people don't even go to the theaters the way they used to...it's mostly just young people today, right?
    Isn't the average age of prime time TV viewers like 50 or older or something? It's too competitive.

    Secondly, the people who do go to theaters go there to see only a handful of names....Tom Cruise, Julia Roberts, George Clooney...a handful of directors....Steven Spielberg, Michael Bay, George Lucas, John Woo...and a handful of properties....Star Wars, comic books, Transformers....without these handfuls of brand people the movies lose out. How can the actors have any leverage at all?
    Isn't striking simply akin to taking food off the table? You cannot strike.


    There. My uneducated opinion. I look forward to corrections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bay_Fan_Gibson View Post
    Secondly, the people who do go to theaters go there to see only a handful of names....Tom Cruise, Julia Roberts, George Clooney...a handful of directors....Steven Spielberg, Michael Bay, George Lucas, John Woo...and a handful of properties....Star Wars, comic books, Transformers....without these handfuls of brand people the movies lose out. How can the actors have any leverage at all?
    Actually I think ya hit it on the head there quite a bit. Many of todays moviegoers, go to a movie because the like a certain type of genre of movie, for example the action hero line, or action, or comedy, etc. Those sorts of movies are quite often attended more than others. For this those movies make it bigger. The actors who are cast in movies that are not cared to be seen are pretty much the ones whining about the strikes because they want more money for what they have no control over. At least thats how I view things along those lines.

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    So, I see the postings went sideways a bit and hit on healthcare, which is a big topic as well as a national one here in the United States, so...

    The Dems will propose universal health care as an answer and claim the GOP doesn't care about the millions of uninsured Americans. That's going to be a big thing. Regardless, it's not what will happen in the end.

    In Massachusetts Mitt Romney's much criticized but already implemented plan imposes an individual mandate which requires everyone in the state to have health coverage or face significant penalties. Just like state mandated car insurance... have it or else. And I'm hearing by 2009-2010 you can expect more states to sign up for a similar program.

    Many states will offer high-deductible health plans (HDHPs), or health savings accounts (HSAs) to fund these programs. Employers will offer employer sponsored health reimbursement arrangements (HRAs) instead of the state plan. Expect those to be the "it" thing.

    Ask your doctor about HSAs, they already luv those verses dealing with insurance providers. Not saying that's a good answer, but that's the trend, look for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beej View Post
    So, I see the postings went sideways a bit and hit on healthcare, which is a big topic as well as a national one here in the United States, so...

    The Dems will propose universal health care as an answer and claim the GOP doesn't care about the millions of uninsured Americans. That's going to be a big thing. Regardless, it's not what will happen in the end.

    In Massachusetts Mitt Romney's much criticized but already implemented plan imposes an individual mandate which requires everyone in the state to have health coverage or face significant penalties. Just like state mandated car insurance... have it or else. And I'm hearing by 2009-2010 you can expect more states to sign up for a similar program.

    Many states will offer high-deductible health plans (HDHPs), or health savings accounts (HSAs) to fund these programs. Employers will offer employer sponsored health reimbursement arrangements (HRAs) instead of the state plan. Expect those to be the "it" thing.

    Ask your doctor about HSAs, they already luv those verses dealing with insurance providers. Not saying that's a good answer, but that's the trend, look for it.
    Wow.. thats got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of.. State mandated Health insurance? gahhh.. The state mandated car insurance is there to protect the other driver, not necessarily yourself. At least in Iowa its mandated to have car insurance for.. I don't recall which one it is.. comprehensive or collision.. which ever one covers the OTHER driver.. the drive you HIT. but its not mandated to have car insurance to cover yourself, unless your car is still under a loan from your bank, and the bank requires it. Health insurance is all about insurance for yourself. Saying you have to have it or else is insane. That's like saying.. YOU HAVE to have insurance to cover your health, or we'll lock you up and die in a moldy old prison cell. Just stupid. Insurance for the most part is just another way to scam you out of your money. Did you know the average person spends more than $50,000 on car insurance in their lifetime, yet only needs about $8,000 for any sort of damage? No I'm not taking this from any website, and no I don't know if its true, so don't quote me on this for all you naysayers. From personal experience and knowlege thats what I've seen out of it. I guess one of the reasons I'm so ticked off at car insurance was for an example, I was with Progressive for 8 years, always paid my car insurance in time, and contributed at least $10,000 into insurance. Last summer apparently I missed my payment and I was without insurance for 2 days.. 2 DAYS!!!!! ONLY!!! During those 2 days, some neighborkid punk decided to throw a huge rock thru my back window. I called Progressive to have it fixed, which was only a $400 window. They wouldn't pay for it since they said I was without insurance. That made me so mad!!!! Guess I know they don't CARE about loyal customers. yeah yeah yeah.. I know what you're thinking.. well technically speaking.. it was within blah blah blah.. I don't wanna hear it.. I hate Insurance scammers. I believe that insurance should be like a bank account JUST for your vehicles. You are required to pay in money to it, and can only use it for any type of vehicle claim. You should be required to always have so much money in that account say $2000 and anything over that you can take out at a later date, but at least that $2000 is there if something does go wrong. But.. whatever.. nobody seems to follow my logic... so. nevermind..

    As far as going back on topic with SAG... ehh.. screw them.. They are making the equivalent of about $3000 an hour. Let them work long hard hours like I do with dirty greasy jobs in dangerous situations where you have to put on Hazmat suits for a measily $14.00 an hour and see if they'd be complaining about their jobs anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokescreen_5 View Post
    Wow.. thats got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of.. State mandated Health insurance? gahhh.. The state mandated car insurance is there to protect the other driver, not necessarily yourself.

    As far as going back on topic with SAG... ehh.. screw them.. They are making the equivalent of about $3000 an hour. Let them work long hard hours like I do with dirty greasy jobs in dangerous situations where you have to put on Hazmat suits for a measily $14.00 an hour and see if they'd be complaining about their jobs anymore.
    Item 1. Switch to decaf.

    Item 2. Mandated Insurance is the same concept -- it's because there are so many who don't have coverage using state and federal programs (which we pay for it anyway). Again, didn't say it was a good answer, but regardless of who wins in November, that's what will happen, that's the path.

    Item 3. If you wanted to earn more than what you make G-d bless America, you have the opportunity to go forth, learn, seek and become an actor yourself or and IT Technician, or go entreprenurial and have your own company. Nothing stops you from being whatever you want to be. Or at least to strive for such a life if that's what you want. So, "screw them" no, my friend, that attitude only keeps you in the place you obviously are not thrilled to be in. If you want support, I've got your back on that and I'll cheer you on in the endeavor of your dream, but talk down someone else's life and dream, can't help you there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beej View Post
    Item 1. Switch to decaf.

    Item 2. Mandated Insurance is the same concept -- it's because there are so many who don't have coverage using state and federal programs (which we pay for it anyway). Again, didn't say it was a good answer, but regardless of who wins in November, that's what will happen, that's the path.

    Item 3. If you wanted to earn more than what you make G-d bless America, you have the opportunity to go forth, learn, seek and become an actor yourself or and IT Technician, or go entreprenurial and have your own company. Nothing stops you from being whatever you want to be. Or at least to strive for such a life if that's what you want. So, "screw them" no, my friend, that attitude only keeps you in the place you obviously are not thrilled to be in. If you want support, I've got your back on that and I'll cheer you on in the endeavor of your dream, but talk down someone else's life and dream, can't help you there.
    In response to item 1: I don't drink coffee

    In response to item 2: Mandated health insurance my @$$. If a person starts a new job they don't get insurance usually until they've been there for 90 days.. so whats the government going to do.. lock you up because you don't have health insurance.. so much for America being the land of the free.. Now if they want to give me state insurance for free while I don't have insurance (since its being taken out of my taxes).. which I'm already paying for anyways.. then sure.. I don't mind that.

    In response to item 3: I can't stand to sit in a cubicle with detailed circuitry as an IT Technician. I'm an Industrial Maintenance Technician with many more skills. I can build houses, wire up a house, repair a furnace or Air Conditioner, rebuild a CNC machine, drive a forklift, work on hydraulics for a dunk station, fix a pneumatic press, operate a lathe, use a punch press, program a laser or plasma table. Theres such a thing as ethics which are also involved. I have a girlfriend I love, and a son that I WON'T leave. So I'm stuck with what I can find IN IOWA. I have no problem with living here or the wages I receive. I don't care to be an actor. Never said anything about them not wanting to be actors.. but when their moaning and groaning because they don't have enough money to go out partying and buying their mansions and fancy cars all the time.. screw em. Yeah so what if they have "a dream" to be an actor.. go for it.. but when its greed involved.. they need to think twice about things. As long as a person makes enough to live comfortable along the lines of the cost of living, then thats fine. For example, in Iowa, a comfortable place is making $15 to $20 an hour. In California, I'm sure its more like $20 to $30 an hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokescreen_5 View Post
    In response to item 1: I don't drink coffee

    In California, I'm sure its more like $20 to $30 an hour.
    This week word is coffee may actually be good for you. No, I don't know the specifics of how each state would roll out such a program... kind of waiting to hear on that.

    Yeah it's reather grim here. A three bedroom house in less than glam territory in LA can get a person a bank-owned (repo) one for about $430K which is good compared to 2005 prices. An individual would need to earn $150K a year or $72/per hour. A couple (both would have to work) would need to earn $36 per hour each. Rents not too bad though in this market, but, um whatever.

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    Ummm...aren't a lot of things "state mandated" in this country? How about school? Oh and how about our highway system? And how about mail?!! Uncle Sam's got first dibs on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beej View Post
    This week word is coffee may actually be good for you. No, I don't know the specifics of how each state would roll out such a program... kind of waiting to hear on that.

    Yeah it's reather grim here. A three bedroom house in less than glam territory in LA can get a person a bank-owned (repo) one for about $430K which is good compared to 2005 prices. An individual would need to earn $150K a year or $72/per hour. A couple (both would have to work) would need to earn $36 per hour each. Rents not too bad though in this market, but, um whatever.
    My god that is crazy. I actually hate the taste of coffee. I used to drink Mt Dew in the form of a 24 pack a night, either that or a 12 pack of jolt, or Red Bull, or something of that nature. My dentist (though I had absolutely no tartar and only 5 small cavities after 11 years of not being to a dentist) said I should cut back on my Mt Dew.. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..

    My house which is a 2, possible 3 bedroom house is worth $77 K, Some of the more richer neighborhoods, the houses sell for around $150-$250K . Still there are some people that have 2 million dollar homes. I went to this one ladies place to service their A/C systems. It was cool because each room has its own temperature since their all in zones. I've read about it but never worked on it before. She had about 20 bedrooms, 2 kitchens, 3 living room type areas, 2 dining room areas, a basement with pool tables, ping pong table, about 10 arcade systems, a 52 inch screen tv with an XBox, Wii, and PS3 hooked up to it, a Pool, spa, hot tub, about 5 bathrooms, one that had one of those huge walk in areas with about 20 jet sprays going everywhere, about 3 garages, a stable, about 50 horses walking around.. I think she was a breeder but my gawd.. that was a fancy house. The cost for just the electricity alone in that house was abotu $4000 a month. I could barely fathom that since all of my bills total each month run me around $1200.

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