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    I know they are real and are here, but I'm always shocked and cannot believe as a people we've spawned them... doesn't compute. But please let this guy out in the general prison population... just once.


    Okla. man guilty of killing child
    Jury swift with verdict; killer raped child in cannibalistic fantasy

    The Associated Press
    updated 10:58 a.m. PT, Fri., Feb. 29, 2008


    NORMAN, Okla. - A jury found a man guilty of first-degree murder Friday in the killing of a 10-year-old girl, reaching its decision within minutes the day after hearing his macabre videotaped confession.

    Kevin Underwood, a former grocery stocker who claimed Internet pornography stoked his cannibalistic fantasies, showed no emotion as the verdict was announced. Family members of the victim, Jamie Rose Bolin, patted each other and shook hands.

    The girl's body was found in a plastic tub in Underwood's apartment in April 2006. Jurors had heard his detailed videotaped confession in court Thursday.

    Judge Candace Blalock told jurors to return to court Monday morning for the penalty phase. Prosecutors have said they intend to seek the death penalty, while the defense has said it will seek to spare his life.

    Deputies led Underwood, 28, away in handcuffs once jurors had left the courtroom.

    Rose Fox, Jamie's grandmother, said after the verdict that she was originally against the death penalty in the case, but has now changed her mind.

    "He made his choice," Fox said. "He's a monster in human form."

    "I was for mercy. And then when I found out what he really did to her ... . He showed her no mercy."

    Jurors began deliberating following closing arguments in which Cleveland County District Attorney Greg Mashburn predicted it would take jurors longer to pick a foreman than to determine guilt.

    "It's the worst of the worst," Mashburn said. "His plan is to butcher someone like an animal."

    In his closing argument, Defense attorney Matthew Haire did not dispute Underwood's guilt. But he called him "a lonely, very troubled, reclusive young man" and accused prosecutors of overwhelming jurors with gruesome evidence.

    In the confession, Underwood said he lured the girl, his upstairs neighbor, into his apartment in Purcell, hit her with a cutting board, smothered her with his hands, sexually assaulted the body and nearly cut her head off as part of a fantasy involving cannibalism.

    "I wanted to know what it tasted like, and just the thought of eating someone was appealing to me," Underwood said in the confession.

    Underwood also said such fantasies began about the time he started taking the antidepressant Lexapro. Defense attorneys plan to call witnesses during the penalty phase on his use of the drug.

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    Don't let the door hit you on the way to the chair.

    That's f**ked up.

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    man i'm so down with eye for an eye punishment. I wish people coule reap the sow They torture someone to death, they should be tortured to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beej View Post

    In his closing argument, Defense attorney Matthew Haire did not dispute Underwood's guilt. But he called him "a lonely, very troubled, reclusive young man"
    Okay, this guy, seriously....good God almighty....this is NO EXCUSE.

    Drugs....chemical imbalance, whatever, the dude is sick and needs to be put out of society by ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!



    FRY HIM!!!

    When it comes to crimes like this, they gotta pay.
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    Burn

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    they should shove cattle prods into his balloon knot!!!


    ...then again...he'd probably enjoy that!

    Burn him alive!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarded View Post
    they should shove cattle prods into his balloon knot!!!


    ...then again...he'd probably enjoy that!

    Burn him alive!!
    OUCH.

    I'm not a guy, but I could just imagine the pain involved in that.
    I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't know what I'd do if I caught one. I don't have plans. I just do things. I'm not a schemer.

    I use a knife because guns are too quick. Otherwise, you can't savor all the emotions. You know who people are in their last moments.

    I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... stranger.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumblebee1983 View Post
    OUCH.

    I'm not a guy, but I could just imagine the pain involved in that.

    I thought women enjoyed..............................uhm never mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarded View Post
    I thought women enjoyed..............................uhm never mind
    Maybe your 'old lady' might, but me, a young Bee....hardly not.

    (No offense to your 'old lady' and her tastes in....whatever.)
    I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't know what I'd do if I caught one. I don't have plans. I just do things. I'm not a schemer.

    I use a knife because guns are too quick. Otherwise, you can't savor all the emotions. You know who people are in their last moments.

    I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... stranger.



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    no worries! neither she or I are offended


    ...nothing wrong with young bees..........plenty of time to learn

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    I'm usually pretty hardened and cynical but... jesus. This is the most horrific thing I've read in a long while. And no, no death penalty for this guy. I want to see them a hundred years put on this guy and then see him thrown into genpop. He'll be dead soon enough and, I'm sure, he will wish they *had* fried him...
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarded View Post
    no worries! neither she or I are offended


    ...nothing wrong with young bees..........plenty of time to learn


    If it involves cow prods going up somewhere....I don't want to learn.

    I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't know what I'd do if I caught one. I don't have plans. I just do things. I'm not a schemer.

    I use a knife because guns are too quick. Otherwise, you can't savor all the emotions. You know who people are in their last moments.

    I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... stranger.



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    Quote Originally Posted by xAgonyxScenex View Post
    man i'm so down with eye for an eye punishment. I wish people coule reap the sow They torture someone to death, they should be tortured to death.
    Agreed.

    Someone is choked... you choke them. I think rape might be pushing it, but castration... thats a fitting one. Stabbings should have the assailants stabbed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beej View Post
    For your consideration/just my opinion: If you've ever followed the Zodiac Killer or Manson family exploits, etc. then you know you don't go from zero to an act like this -- he's been doing this for a while. Granted, he's not neat about it, as in efficient, but he's been doing things leading up to this for sometime.

    While there are some medications that can mess you up (more likely a combination), but Lexapro an antidepressant would more likly have him feeling like a zombie, however that said it does come with a disclaimer of "Tell the doctor immediately if you notice worsening depression/other psychiatric conditions, unusual behavior changes including possible suicidal thoughts/attempts new/worsening anxiety, panic attacks, trouble sleeping, irritability, hostile/angry feelings, impulsive actions, severe restlessness, very rapid speech" But it doesn't change who you are, it simply amplifies or mutes what is already there -- and the reason for him being on the drug in the first place may have simply been his subconcious guilt on what he'd been thinking and doing.

    What is really curious is how people like this can move through society and go unoticed. It's amazing. Although, they don't always go without notice, they simply are not caught.

    About eight years ago I met another human that set off the alarm -- was introduced (in a lobby) to a guy, told he was a doctor, and as I put out the hand to shake (not touching flesh yet -- still 12 inches away) I suddenly felt this overwhelming desire to recoil... never had such a feeling in my life. I think all the blood rushed down to my feet. I had to fight that impulse and continue to smile, greet, and shake. The guy was to have had a PHd., but I couldn't find any such evidence. He also had a website showing all his young male martial arts students ("call me sensei"). The creepiest cat I've ever met (And my instincts are usually right on.) . No one else got that vibe. I swear someday, they're going to dig up that dude's backyard and find the bodies.
    The scary thing is a crap load of these people do go noticed. People just don't speak up. Even if they do, whats going to be done. Just because someone is acting weird or says something odd doesn't mean time and money is going to be wasted to keep sure he doesn't do anything.

    All the school shooting lately and kids bringing guns to school on an almost daily basis these days. You keep hearing the news reporting on how kids had said to the principal and teachers how the students said he was going to bring a gun to school and absolutely nothing was done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beej View Post
    What is really curious is how people like this can move through society and go unoticed. It's amazing. Although, they don't always go without notice, they simply are not caught.
    Like Agony said, people notice, they just don't give a crap. Seriously. I was mugged in broad daylight in a crowded MUNI bus at eleven o'clock in the morning on a Friday and you can see the other riders on the security footage turning their heads on purpose to ignore what was happening. When the bus stopped, I was dragged out the backdoor and dropped onto the pavement. The only person exiting the bus to stop and help me was a lawyer who offered me her card.

    People are afraid and they don't know what to do so they do nothing. That's the problem.
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    What a sick doush bag! What the f**k would encourage him 2 do that? Sick ass motherfu**er!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redqueenar View Post
    Like Agony said, people notice, they just don't give a crap. Seriously. I was mugged in broad daylight in a crowded MUNI bus at eleven o'clock in the morning on a Friday and you can see the other riders on the security footage turning their heads on purpose to ignore what was happening. When the bus stopped, I was dragged out the backdoor and dropped onto the pavement. The only person exiting the bus to stop and help me was a lawyer who offered me her card.

    People are afraid and they don't know what to do so they do nothing. That's the problem.
    Yup. I know what you mean.

    I was on a flight on my way back Nashville from LA last November and a woman passed out right behind me and landed flat in the aisle, unconscious. Well, she had been drinking a little too much and unbuckled on descent.

    Nobody was willing to help her. I guess people are too afraid of lawsuits, ya know?

    I sure as heck wasn't going to do anything because a) I'm not medically trained (and she did take pills with her drinks....) and b) I'd be questioned by the police that soon entered the plane upon landing.

    I don't want anything to do with any of that.
    I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't know what I'd do if I caught one. I don't have plans. I just do things. I'm not a schemer.

    I use a knife because guns are too quick. Otherwise, you can't savor all the emotions. You know who people are in their last moments.

    I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... stranger.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumblebee1983 View Post


    If it involves cow prods going up somewhere....I don't want to learn.


    LOL...not cow prods silly!....

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    regardless of the outcomes.....people won't change..........never will. There will always be pshycos, killers, rapists...etc...

    ...and there will always be good natured people to keep the balance

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    Heh, after that mugging (two years ago, btw) my father wanted to buy me a gun. No, no. Weapons make everything very dangerous and complicated. People cause more damage than they really intend and they serve a lot more time. The law has this issue about the levels of force; if you shoot a guy in the face for jumping you, he dies, and they prove he was unarmed, you're the person in trouble, etc.

    Nowadays, I prefer to disarm people with my hands and feet. I highly recommend martial arts to everybody. It makes you aware of yourself in a way you weren't before. I'm also a trained first responder (CPR, first aid, etc), think I mentioned that before, which is also pretty easy to accomplish (American Red Cross will hook you up). For me it's not really about going out and getting into other people's shit so much as it's about being prepared when their shit collides onto me. I'm not obligated to help people, of course, but I find that I do simply because I'm the person in the room that knows how. Having even a little knowledge of what to do in an emergency situation is very useful. I've never had to resuscitate anyone, thank god, but I've used just about every other thing I've learned so far!
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    I carry mace.
    "...my heart is turned to stone; I strike it, and it hurts my hand..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by redqueenar View Post
    Heh, after that mugging (two years ago, btw) my father wanted to buy me a gun. No, no. Weapons make everything very dangerous and complicated. People cause more damage than they really intend and they serve a lot more time. The law has this issue about the levels of force; if you shoot a guy in the face for jumping you, he dies, and they prove he was unarmed, you're the person in trouble, etc.

    Nowadays, I prefer to disarm people with my hands and feet. I highly recommend martial arts to everybody. It makes you aware of yourself in a way you weren't before. I'm also a trained first responder (CPR, first aid, etc), think I mentioned that before, which is also pretty easy to accomplish (American Red Cross will hook you up). For me it's not really about going out and getting into other people's shit so much as it's about being prepared when their shit collides onto me. I'm not obligated to help people, of course, but I find that I do simply because I'm the person in the room that knows how. Having even a little knowledge of what to do in an emergency situation is very useful. I've never had to resuscitate anyone, thank god, but I've used just about every other thing I've learned so far!
    I took aikdo and damn did it hurt. I am no expert on it though, I just took enough to know how to protect myself.

    I do know where the pressure points are now.

    I really should get refreshed on it though.
    I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't know what I'd do if I caught one. I don't have plans. I just do things. I'm not a schemer.

    I use a knife because guns are too quick. Otherwise, you can't savor all the emotions. You know who people are in their last moments.

    I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... stranger.



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    I wanted to comment on the issue of this guy killing the little girl.I pray for the girls family to heal over this issue.Part of that would be to close it and end it by agreeing with this man being put to death.As a parent of a little girl,I do not want to ever experience losing her or my son.The way she died at the hands of this man.He should be put to death and prison space could be used for someone who committed a non-violent crime.I worked prison systems here in New Mexico and have realized alot of violent crime committing criminals "Kick-it" in comfort.Wheres my dinner!!?,Where's My Cable!!???,Where's my painkillers!!?? ...I need my meds!!...I think thats messed up.Hard working people cant afford medical coverage.I remember making too much for medicaid for my son because I made $100.00 too much to qualify.Then when you qualify,you have too make too little to get by???These guys get it all.How many years before he is put to death?How many years before justice is served?Letting this guy by-pass the death penalty means...Treatment,Meds,Hot meals,cable t.v.,mail,commisary(Able to buy outside products,inside from the facility like Cokes,Candy,etc.)??Money wasted.
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    Ship the Bastard to Texas!!! They have drive-thru death penalty's!!!

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    I carry a psychotic mental instability that lets me kill any one in a room with anything.

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