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    Good for him!

    Wish you the best bro! Have fun and kick ass!
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    OMG Michael Bay is directing the Transformers movies. They are gonna suck! My childhood will be ruined!

    *fast forward billions of dollars later.....*

    Omg I can't wait for the next 3!
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    OMG Heath Ledger is playing the Joker. The Joker is ruined!

    *billions of dollars later....*

    Totally Oscar worthy performance! He rocked!
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    OMG Snakes on a Plane will be epic! They are listening to the power of the people on the internet! More studios should listen!

    *fast forward a few million dollars later.....*

    Well that sucked. We got what we wanted and it sucked. I wonder why?
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    See a pattern yet?

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    Ben Affleck To Team With DC’s Geoff Johns On Stand-Alone ‘Batman’ Film: Comic Con
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Fleming Jr
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    Here’s one for the Comic-Con crowd to gnaw on. I’m told that Ben Affleck is teaming up with Geoff Johns to co-write a stand-alone Batman movie that Affleck will direct and star in after he completes his longstanding plan to helm his scripted adaptation of the Dennis Lehane novel Live By Night. Johns has about as much comic cred as anybody around. He’s DC Comics’ chief creative officer and has written some of its best remembered comic book series including Green Lantern, Aquaman, Batman, Justice League Unlimited, The Flash and Superman. He also has written TV series superhero transfers Smallville, Arrow and The Flash, as well as the Supergirl project with Greg Berlanti for CBS.


    My studio sources tell me that Affleck and Johns are well in synch and have more than found their rhythm. In fact, they are likely to turn in a script before the end of the summer, prior to Affleck going off to direct Live By Night in November. Affleck postponed that pic to star in Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice. The Batman movie would shoot after he finishes Live By Night, and the plot would reflect the Batman character that emerges after Batman V Superman and Justice League, the latter of which comes out November 17, 2017. DC and Warner Bros have set a long list of superhero movies that take the Marvel formula of interspersing characters from one film to the next, so it’s unclear when Affleck’s Batfilm will be slotted.


    But it clearly will take priority, and other movies might have to move to get out of its way. While Marvel’s Kevin Feige has defied the odds and turned one Marvel character after another into hit films, I have been somewhat skeptical about the DC films that Warner Bros has made a top priority. This is a confidence booster. The best Batman blockbusters had a real sense of visual authorship, originated by Tim Burton, with the latest arc by Christopher Nolan. Now it falls to Affleck, who’ll creatively steer the Batman franchise after directing the Best Picture winner Argo and co-scripting and directing the gems The Town and Gone Baby Gone. Helped by the collaboration with DC-savvy Johns, this might be the most exciting news to hit the Con this weekend.

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    Report: Affleck to star in 3 stand-alone Batman movies
    A private screening of Batman V Superman was reportedly such a success, Warner is now planning three Batman films starring Ben Affleck...
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Lambie
    Warner is said to be so impressed with Affleck's performance as Batman that it's apparently in the process of making an extended, "Golden deal", which could see the actor play the Caped Crusader in a trilogy of stand-alone movies, not the single outing already announced.


    All told, this deal could see Affleck in the role of Batman for the next 10 years or so.


    "Basically, Warners are now working their movie universe around Ben's Batman," our source says.


    As far as Warner's bosses are concerned, Affleck is considered to be the "definitive Batman" and could be the hub around which the DC movie universe will rotate in future movies.

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    You Will Probably See Your Favorite Villain In Affleck’s BATMAN Movie
    Because most of them will be in it.
    Quote Originally Posted by DEVIN FARACI
    Many, if not most, members of Batman's rogue's gallery will be making appearances in the film. It's going to be crammed with Bat villains, which means that just about every major bad guy you've ever wanted to see in a movie will be in this movie. According to my sources Affleck and Geoff Johns, who has been working with him on the film, want to make the definitive Batman film. They want to tell the ultimate Batman story, and to do so they're going to bring in all the big guns. They're going to have a big, sprawling Bat universe already in place.


    My guess is that most of these will be cameos, possibly characters appearing in Arkham Asylum (could they be doing a weird adaptation of Arkham Asylum? That's just a total piece of speculation). But that still means we're gonna have a lot of villains showing up, which means a lot of interesting casting, and a lot of interesting possibilities for future films. This certainly fits in with the larger DC movieverse model, which is to introduce everything already developed in one fell swoop as opposed to building it up. When it comes to Batman I'm actually very okay with this - everybody in the world knows who The Penguin and The Riddler are, and we don't need to watch their first meeting with Batman yet again.

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    I seriously hope they do the Court of Owls story.

    I love the Batman comics on that. I love the Batman animated movie on that.

    It's one of the more serious Bat stories out there. And it parallels the real world because the Court of Owls is a secret society in Gotham City. They're the elite. And they control everything. They've been manipulating everything even the death of Bruce Wayne's grandfather. That kind of parallels the secret societies in today's world and how they operate. It's a mature story line. Imagine Stanley Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut crossing over with Batman! That's what its like!

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    Ben Affleck Is Now Executive Producer Of JUSTICE LEAGUE
    The drama continues.
    Quote Originally Posted by EVAN SAATHOFF
    Hold up, the red phone is ringing. Oh hey, it’s Devin Faraci, who has this to add:
    My sources have told me that Affleck was incredibly unhappy about the reception of BvS. He felt humiliated after spending so much of the press tour saying how much better this film would be than Daredevil. On top of that his agent was furious when Kevin Tsujihara jumped the gun and announced him as the director of The Batman - there were still negotiations happening.


    This move seems to help placate Affleck while also edging Zack Snyder out of a controlling central position in the DC Movieverse.
    Inquisitr:
    Zack Snyder On The Outs With DC, Warner: New ‘Justice League’ Boss Could Be Coming
    Quote Originally Posted by Aric Mitchell
    While the rumored-to-cost $450 million for shooting and marketing BvS fared better at the box office in terms of pure gross, it did the vast majority of its business in its opening weekend and crashed hard among a sea of bad critiques from both professional film critics and movie audiences alike.

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    TheWrap:
    Deathstroke Will Be Main Villain in Ben Affleck’s Batman Movie (Exclusive)


    Joe Manganiello to Play Deathstroke in Ben Affleck’s ‘Batman’ Movie

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    Good to see more of Batman's Rogue's gallery being utilized rather than it being the Joker all the time.
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    Rumor: Ben Affleck’s ‘The Batman’ Script Is a Mess and Warner Bros Doesn’t Care to Fix It
    Quote Originally Posted by Angie Han
    Despite the fact that we don’t actually know when it’s coming, Ben Affleck‘s The Batman has looked like one of the more promising films on Warner Bros.’ DC slate. Not only was Affleck one of the highlights of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, but he’s also planning to direct the film himself. Affleck’s been saying all the right things about the project, too, talking up his collaboration with Geoff Johns and emphasizing that they’re taking the time to get it right.


    But if American Psycho author Bret Easton Ellis is to be believed, fans may want to temper their expectations. According to Ellis, Affleck’s The Batman script is a total mess. And even worse, he claims Warner Bros. doesn’t care to bother fixing it.


    Ellis’ thoughts on Affleck’s The Batman come as part of a larger story by The Ringer about the current state and future of the movie industry. Here’s Ellis on Batman:
    I was having dinner with a couple of executives who know other executives who are working on the [forthcoming] Batman movie, The Batman. And they were just telling me that there are serious problems with the script. And that the executives I was having dinner with were complaining about people who work on the Batman movie. And they just said they went to the studio and they said, ‘Look, the script is … Here’s 30 things that are wrong with it that we can fix.’ And [the executives] said, ‘We don’t care. We don’t really care. The amount of money we’re going to make globally, I mean 70 percent of our audience is not going to be seeing this in English. And it doesn’t really matter, these things that you’re bringing up about the flaws of the script.’ So I do think global concerns play a big part in how movies, and what movies, are being made, obviously.



    Ben Affleck Is Not in a Rush to Make His Batman Movie
    Quote Originally Posted by Angie Han
    It seems pretty clear that Warner Bros. would like to get Ben Affleck‘s Batman movie out sooner rather than later, ideally before Justice League 2. But as far as Affleck is concerned, there’s no need to rush. During a recent interview, he insisted that he has no interest in “reverse-engineering” the movie to hit a release date, stressing that he’s more concerned about finding “the right story” before he proceeds.



    Comics Alliance:
    DC Movie Producer’s Comments Illustrate What’s Wrong With the ‘Justice League’ Universe
    Quote Originally Posted by Britt Hayes
    Although recent comments from WB execs and Ben Affleck imply that the studio has learned a few lessons from its mistakes, new comments from a top DC movies producer prove otherwise.


    In a recent interview, Ben Affleck directly addressed the studio’s core problem when he said that he’s in no rush to make his solo Batman film — mostly because he thinks the “reverse-engineering” approach (rushing a project to meet a release date) is a bad one. But that’s been the DCEU approach from the get-go.


    Today, THR published a lengthy interview with producer Charles Roven, who recently took his involvement with the DCEU down a notch. When asked about the franchise, Roven’s response is illuminating:


    The studio made me the producer of all the DC movies, and they announced eight. When we finished the [timetable], we looked at each other and said, ‘This is incredibly ambitious, but we haven’t taken into consideration if something goes wrong.’ We also hadn’t decided where we were going to shoot those movies. As difficult as it was for me to commute from Toronto to London to Italy, it became really clear I couldn‘t do the job that I do as a producer [with Aquaman likely to shoot in Australia]. I’m for sure producing the sequels of the movies that I have made.
    Whether or not Roven is aware that he’s acknowledging the DCEU’s problems, that’s exactly what he’s done. WB has been far too ambitious with its slate, and far too presumptuous about its audience. Instead of introducing heroes in standalone films that would gauge interest in further sequels and eventual crossover events, like Marvel, the DCEU has taken a completely backwards approach — without course-correcting, that damage becomes increasingly difficult to undo, and each film that doesn’t attempt to right the ship only adds to the problem.


    Also telling is Roven’s response when asked if the upcoming DCEU films will have lower budgets, since Suicide Squad and Batman v Superman failed to meet box-office expectations:
    Suicide Squad made almost $750 million. Batman v. Superman did $873 million. Those two movies were huge hits.
    That’s…not an answer. But it is a hilarious way to deflect the question, which isn’t about whether or not those two films were successful, but whether they were successful enough to justify their budgets — and they weren’t. Not on a commercial level, and certainly not on a creative one.

    Ben Affleck says standalone Batman movie is ‘not a set thing’
    “If it doesn’t come together in a way I think is really great I’m not going to do it.”

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    Variety:
    Ben Affleck Will Not Direct ‘The Batman’ (EXCLUSIVE)
    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Kroll
    Ben Affleck has decided to step down as director of “The Batman” and remain on as a producer and star of the project.


    Affleck is still on board to play the superhero, but sources close to the talent said Affleck and Warner Bros., after discussing how to best make the film possible, came to the decision together.


    “There are certain characters who hold a special place in the hearts of millions,” Affleck said in a statement. “Performing this role demands focus, passion and the very best performance I can give. It has become clear that I cannot do both jobs to the level they require. Together with the studio, I have decided to find a partner in a director who will collaborate with me on this massive film. I am still in this, and we are making it, but we are currently looking for a director. I remain extremely committed to this project, and look forward to bringing this to life for fans around the world.”




    Sources say this decision was solely made based on what’s best for the project and had nothing to do with the recent disappointment of Affleck’s recent directing job “Live by Night.”


    Affleck and Warner Bros. will now begin searching for a new director. Sources say there is a shortlist and that “War for the Planet of the Apes” helmer Matt Reeves is among those on the list.


    “Warner Bros. fully supports Ben Affleck’s decision and remains committed to working with him to bring a standalone Batman picture to life,” the studio said a statement.


    Affleck has completed work as the Caped Crusader in “Justice League,” which opens Nov. 17, and he was preparing to go into prep on the solo “Batman” movie this summer. Affleck co-wrote the script with Geoff Johns.


    There had been rumblings that Affleck was considering not directing the film during the past month, but in recent weeks sources say the multi-hyphenate came to the decision it was best to let the directing job go and focus on playing the part.


    He first appeared as the superhero in last year’s “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.”

    Variety:
    Ben Affleck’s ‘Live by Night’ Flop Results in $75 Million Loss (EXCLUSIVE)

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    Ben Affleck Not Directing Batman
    The studio is eyeing a shortlist of shooters that includes Captain Fantastic helmer Matt Ross and other major filmmakers including Matt Reeves, who just helmed the latest Planet of the Apes installment.






    10 Directors to Watch: Matt Ross Returns to Sundance with ‘Captain Fantastic’
    Character actor turned helmer Matt Ross taps into Viggo Mortensen's back-to-nature spirit with fantastic family drama.

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    The 'Batman' Movie Gets New Script, New Director, And Likely 2019 Release
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Hughes
    As this week's announcement that Ben Affleck would step down as director of his solo superhero movie The Batman continues to reverberate through Hollywood and fandom, sources confirm the script originally penned by Affleck and Geoff Johns was rewritten by scribe Chris Terrio (whose Argo screenplay won an Oscar for Best Adapted Screenplay, and who did a page-one rewrite on Batman v Superman), but the project will undergo substantial changes and possible/probably another full rewrite. Warner Bros. is already speaking to several filmmakers about taking over in the director's chair -- including one of my personal longtime favorites to direct a Batman movie, Matt Reeves, who seems to be the frontrunner -- and word is the project will essentially get a fresh start once a new creative team has been put together.


    For now, Affleck remains attached to play Batman/Bruce Wayne, and has publicly asserted his intention to remain in that role now that he has less pressure to write and direct while also prepping mentally and physically for the performance. However, since he's already played Batman in three films to date -- including two extended and demanding productions over the course of about two years -- and has managed to act-write-direct other major projects in the past, it's fair to question whether he will remain committed to the project over the next several months while a new filmmaker and new script are acquired.


    It's true Affleck's public statement (see below) insists he wants to make the film and will star in it, but he made similarly firm remarks just three weeks ago on Jimmy Kimmel Live! when asked if he was still directing the film. We've all learned it's impossible to take such public denials or assertions at face value every time, since the demands of the big-budget business of cinema realistically require playing cards close to the chest. Here is Affleck's full statement announcing his departure as director:


    "There are certain characters who hold a special place in the hearts of millions. Performing this role demands focus, passion and the very best performance I can give. It has become clear that I cannot do both jobs to the level they require. Together with the studio, I have decided to find a partner in a director who will collaborate with me on this massive film. I am still in this, and we are making it, but we are currently looking for a director. I remain extremely committed to this project, and look forward to bringing this to life for fans around the world."


    The story for The Batman originally included the assassin Deathstroke as a main villain, with Joe Manganiello cast in the role, as well as a few other likely villainous appearances by characters including the Joker, according to sources familiar with the project. Jared Leto, who portrayed the Joker in Suicide Squad, has for months expressed his displeasure about the removal of substantial portions of his performance from the final cut of the film, raising questions about whether he would return to the role in future movies. He seems to have softened his stance lately and appears interested in a possible return, but whether he will ultimately be part of The Batman or Gotham City Sirens remains to be seen.


    With scripting duties and directing demands off his shoulders, Affleck will have more time to commit to overcoming the exhaustion and frustrations that became a problem for him recently after a demanding schedule that included Batman v Superman, Suicide Squad, The Accountant, Justice League, and Live By Night. Acting in all five of those films, plus doing scripting and editing duties on a few as well, and of course serving as writer-director-actor for Live By Night, put a strain on Affleck and made it difficult for him to focus on the screenplay for The Batman. Besides his work in those films, he also traveled around the country and world doing press junkets to promote most of the films, all of this while dealing with personal issues that added to his stress.


    However, while the changes to The Batman seem to provide more breathing room and time to relax and refocus his efforts, the reverse side of that coin is quite simply that pressures dramatic enough to necessitate such a dramatic step-back could also be inherently serious enough to pose problems going forward, at least in the interim. Especially in light of the fact performing as Batman is something he's had a few years of experience with already now, and since rumors continue to spread that there is more going on than meets the eye -- rumors that gain traction when we can't be sure how long public assurances will last and when the rollout of information comes slowly and in small doses instead of ripping the bandaid off quickly.


    If Affleck and Warner had spent the last few weeks noting Affleck's schedule and the particularly important needs of The Batman might necessitate him bringing in a collaborator, and if the remarks about the script had admitted Terrio was being sought to help get the script into shape for production, those frank admissions would've removed the seeming veil of secrecy and appearance of damage-control-mode, and the announcement of Affleck quitting the directing job wouldn't have seemed quite so sudden or huge. Now, we face another round of slow leaks, with word about continued script problems and the possible need for the new creative team to go back to the drawing board, and rumors that Affleck might continue slowly stepping away from the project.


    This could all be solved by a simple announcement that a new director coming onto the project means the studio and Affleck are postponing further script development so they can work closely with the director on a unified vision, and that the extra time will let Affleck regain the focus he needs while teaming him with the best director and writers possible to get the project on firm ground. When it comes in bits and pieces that contradict one another and seem to reveal previously undisclosed developments, then it gives the impression -- fair or not -- that there is no coherent plan, and that the process is entirely reactive instead of proactive.


    It's also not really fair to put all of the responsibility for these changes on Affleck's shoulders. Warner wanted Affleck to delay Live By Night so the DCU projects could be prioritized and filmed almost non-stop for several years, creating a dual situation of long production schedules for Affleck in the bat-cowl while leaving him far less time to focus on his labor of love, Live By Night (which I'll continue to note is in fact a great movie despite the obstacles Affleck faced getting it into production and ready for release); Warner made the decision to demand editing changes in Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad that caused a lot of the negative critical receptions for those movies, setting up a year of unfortunate media coverage that inevitably contributes to any artist's mood and energy level going forward on related projects; and Warner pushed for a faster production schedule for The Batman, despite Affleck's repeated public and private remarks expressing uncertainty about meeting those expectations.


    My point is, there are lots of factors that led us to this moment, and while most reporting has focused on Affleck himself, it's a mistake to set up a scenario where the delays and changes -- and Affleck's departure as director -- are all framed as entirely his doing. And if he does choose to eventually bow out of the performance, it will be important to understand that the same array of factors from various directions, due to various players, will be behind it all. Everyone had their own reasons, there were unforeseen events, there were unintended consequences, and there's the simple fact everyone involved are human beings who get tired and change their minds sometimes and have to respond to realities around them.


    That the script would need more rewrites, particularly with a new director joining the picture, was a given. How extensive the process will be -- I'm hearing anything from "major rewrites" to "a completely new script," including starting from scratch on the story if that's what it takes -- is unclear, not just to us but probably to those involved as well, since the new filmmaker might look at the story and script and decide there's plenty to salvage that appeals to them. Once the director is in place, more will become clear, but for now Warner Bros. is suffering far more negative perceptions than they need to, simply because of the attempt to slow and control the spread of information. The fear this causes and the speculation arising from that fear is far worse than whatever reaction resulted from putting the current known information out there for public consumption. Likewise, the more the press and public get the impression they can't trust public statements and the more the flow of information is slowed and controlled, the more it feeds the perception that larger problems loom for the DCU.


    If Affleck stays on as lead actor, then this is actually an easy fix if the studio takes it slow, is open about the problems on the front end instead of fueling speculation and concern, and focuses on the relatively easy task of getting a great director and great writer to take all the time they need to pick the right story and then develop a great screenplay. There's more than enough talent involved and available to do this, and since we're likely looking at a release date in 2019 anyway (assuming things get on track now and there aren't further major delays), there's no need to rush it. They can spend the next year and several months letting the creative team focus on finding a story and writing a script for The Batman, and still have another year and several months to shoot it and get it ready for release by July 2019. If Ben Affleck is even just possibly -- on the low end of odds -- going to depart as actor, there is plenty of time to put together a list of replacement actors who could take over. That doesn't have to happen, but being ready for all outcomes would be a good idea at this point.


    As I've said many times, I am a huge fan of Affleck's work and want him to be Batman, and I was very sad to see him depart as director. My heart broke a little when he quit as director, and it will break again if he walks away from the cowl altogether. But Batman is bigger than any one filmmaker or actor, and the most important thing is to get this project on the right footing and move forward with confidence. That's why I think the best option now would be clearing the air and ripping the bandaid off, making sure that Affleck is either 100% committed to at least making this one more movie as Batman OR letting him go ahead and state his intention to leave while remaining as producer and helping with the transition team until they are all in place and up to speed.


    The project can survive either way, and meanwhile the priorities have to be: giving Wonder Woman the best promotion possible; building up anticipation and buzz for Justice League through the rest of the year; getting Aquaman ready and into production while making certain it's on the firmest footing possible; and getting Gotham City Sirens ready and into production in the same way to ensure it's as good as it can be. Those should be their main focuses this year, along with setting up The Batman team. For the rest of the DCU projects, wait to see how things go for this year's slate of films -- we all know that regardless of what plans are made for Flash, Cyborg, Green Lantern in the coming months, it could all change depending on how things go when Wonder Woman and Justice League are released.


    There's no point in constantly assembling teams and plans, only to rush around amending or changing them as events overtake everything with each new film's release. If it were possible to just stick to the plans regardless of reactions to the other films, then that'd be one thing, but we simply know that won't be the case. Thus these changes wind up fueling fear and negative perceptions that only worsen whatever negative reviews or coverage is already out there, perpetuating a bad situation and compounding the problems exponentially. So avoid it entirely by being patient, moving ahead on these few films, and waiting to see how things develop in June and November.


    Two films this year, two films next year in 2018 (if Gotham City Sirens can get into good shape without rushing), and The Batman having a great new creative team to develop it in plenty of time for 2019 is a solid plan. If over the course of this year reactions to Wonder Woman and Justice League are good enough that a Flash-Cyborg project -- The Flash is already being rewritten by Joby Harold and will wind up with its third director sometime this year, in hopes of getting into production by next Spring -- can be developed to everyone's satisfaction, it'll have more than enough time to come together and complete production in time for an August or November 2019 release after The Batman. Trying to push too many of these things when so much is uncertain, with constant reactive changes, is what created most of these problems already. It makes sense to slow down and put maximum effort into a smaller set of projects to establish a better reputation and base from which to go forward with other films.


    And for the record, I'm personally increasingly convinced The Flash should become a Titans project, with not only Cyborg but also Nightwing and Batgirl involved, to turn 2019 into a "year of the Bat" in which we get several bat-themed movies to celebrate the 80th anniversary of Batman's first appearance in comics. I've even come to think it might be best to also go slower with Gotham City Sirens and release that movie in 2019 as well, and just accept that Aquaman will be the DCU's ambassador for 2018. This might upset some fans, but it turns 2019 into a year in which all three of those potential projects -- Titans, The Batman, and Gotham City Sirens -- could include subplots that tie them all together in a neat little bat-package to celebrate Batman's anniversary.


    Regardless of the specific timing for those films, it's clear that Warner needs to really finally put together a small group of people fully empowered to come up with a well-developed game plan for the DCU overall. Their mission should be as follows: selecting the characters to be used and dividing them into their own corners (the bat-family for example is ripe for some great exploitation in various team-ups and spinoffs for years, as does the Superman family or the Shazam character base, and so on); figuring out the ideal concepts and stories around which the characters' films and eventual crossovers should be based; and using all of that as a basic framework and outline to guide the selection of various collaborative teams for each project. This doesn't have to be carved in stone with details for every story, just a few key stories from source material to provide guidance for where each character's own path is headed and where the overall DCU is headed.


    Take time to talk to several directors and writers, figure out who works best together and want to work together on which projects, and then give them time to go write their story ideas and plan things. When they're done, approve or modify those story plans, and greenlight them only if and when everything seems solid and is proceeding as needed. This is the way to have a larger DCU overarching story and connective tissue while letting all of the projects focus on stories derived from the best source material options, in a form giving wide creative latitude to the directors and writers to explore their own visions within a simple but clear set of expectations (like the Bond franchise, for example).


    And all the while, respect the privacy and need for some secrecy while stories are developed, but don't try to hide disagreements or avoid revelations of problems. This is art, it's a creative process, but it's also a multi-billion dollar business, so disagreements and problems are bound to happen and only become bigger stories that provoke worse press and speculation if and when the facts are obscured or clouded by confusion and reluctant admissions. It's easier to put positive spin on bad news if you just admit it outright, treat it as no big deal, and point to the positives and how you're going to address the issue.


    Warner's been doing this a long time, so of course they know all of this already. The problem is that it has seemed, for various reasons, like lately they haven't been sure how to apply these obvious and simple truths to the DCU, even while they do their usual great job of it with other projects and franchises. And often, they were too quick to try to solve problems that weren't necessarily problems, or that were problems on the way to working themselves out already.


    A few minor changes in the past -- releasing the original director's theatrical cuts of Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad, waiting to announce Ben Affleck as director on The Batman until a finished script was in hand and he was firmly contractually committed to direct it, going slower with The Flash and not hiring directors when the screenplay wasn't in the best shape to proceed (the fact it's being rewritten now despite the lack of a new director at the helm is a sign the studio is moving in a different direction with it at their own discretion) -- would've resulted in better critical reception for the released films, less appearance of constant changes in leadership on upcoming projects, and less impression of trouble behind the scenes due to uncertainty about how to proceed with these huge properties.


    The DCU is a vast library of properties and stories dating back nearly 80 years, with a jumbled internal history containing an endless assortment of great stories from which to pull inspiration. Taking all of that, finding the right combinations for each of a dozen or more characters, and then making it all work together in a way that's faithful enough to please the fans, critics, and mainstream audiences who don't read comic books is surely an immense task few people could be expected to handle without some bumps in the road.


    But look, let's be frank -- Marvel did it, and did it to near-perfection (I don't want a Marvel vs DC debate here; I love both, but even if you don't like Marvel, there's no rational way to deny Marvel has done a superb job translating their comic book universe to the big screen correctly and effectively with enormous success), and Warner has done it to near-perfection with individual characters many times in the past. Early Superman movies, most Batman movies, and Watchmen (which remains one of the true masterpieces of the genre) for example are all pretty commonly praised today, even if we can debate the merits of the current DCU pictures (I love Batman v Superman, I think Suicide Squad was pretty terrific -- especially the extended cut -- and I like Man of Steel). So it can be done, and done to acclaim.


    So getting the DCU right takes time and takes a lot of work, but it's not hard to figure out how to get it right and all of the tools necessary to do it are readily available. Time and advance planning are the two ingredients that seem to be most important right now, and that have been in shorter supply during the period of studio reactions to early negative press. There are hundreds of millions of dollars tied up in each of these films, people's careers and reputations are on the line, and there's billions of dollars in revenue on the table waiting to be had, so the reasons for the stress and some of these bumps are obvious. But that's all the more reason to invest in the time and planning to make the best use of the huge library of great material and characters and decades of history at their disposal, because that's the obvious and easy recipe that takes care of all of those concerns about the investments and careers and reputations and revenue. That's the ONLY answer, the ONLY combination, in fact, that works.


    Making a great Batman movie that Ben Affleck wants to be part of shouldn't be painful or cause headaches and grief. Getting a fantastic director who wants to make such a movie should be a snap, they should be lining up at the door to ask for that job. Sketching out a rough outline for a few Batman movies -- including spinoff potential for a larger bat-world with Gotham City Sirens, Nightwing, Batgirl, Robin, Suicide Squad, and the Teen Titans -- should be an exciting and interesting and fairly obvious, simple process. It's only hard right now because of a series of snowballing events that were avoidable and in retrospect should be easy to avoid recurring in the future. The path is obvious, the map readily available. I hope that despite the unfortunate developments with The Batman, the silver lining will be an eagerness to turn this into an opportunity to use that map for vigorous planning.

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    EXCLUSIVE: I’ve heard Warner Bros has offered the directing job on its Batman franchise to Matt Reeves, the filmmaker who just finished War for the Planet of the Apes for Fox. This comes weeks after Ben Affleck decided that directing and starring in such a massive undertaking was too much. The emergence of Reeves is hardly a surprise; it was known that he was the filmmaker the studio engaged when Affleck made his decision after weeks of wavering.


    If the deal makes, this is a big opportunity for Reeves, who came up as a JJ Abrams protege after starting as a writer on such films as Under Siege 2, The Pallbearer and The Yards. He became a director to watch on the sleeper genre hit Cloverfield, and followed with the remake of the hit vampire coming of age import Let The Right One In. Reeves took the leap to event sized films with Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, the first of his two films in that hit series for Fox. The latest installment, War For The Planet of the Apes, will be released by Fox July 14. Word is that film would have put him on the tent pole A list, so what better time to take on a high profile assignment like relaunching Batman as a free standing franchise for Warner Bros and DC?


    There have been two films by Tim Burton, two more by Joel Schumacher and then the Dark Knight trilogy by Christopher Nolan. All this started when Affleck agreed to write a script with Geoff Johns, for Affleck to star and direct. Warner Bros and DC have been working on getting that launch film right, with the most recent rewrite turned in by Affleck’s Argo scribe Chris Terrio, sources said. Reeves is repped by CAA and 3 Arts. Stay tuned to this Batchannel to see if the deal consummates.

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    Will New Batman Director Bring Out Another Side of the Dark Knight?


    Grant Morrison Says BATMAN Is "Very Very Gay"
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant Morrison
    "He's very plutonian in the sense that he's wealthy and also in the sense that he's sexually deviant. Gayness is built into Batman.


    "I'm not using gay in the pejorative sense, but Batman is very, very gay. There's just no denying it. Obviously as a fictional character he's intended to be heterosexual, but the basis of the whole concept is utterly gay. I think that's why people like it. All these women fancy him and they all wear fetish clothes and jump around rooftops to get to him. He doesn't care - he's more interested in hanging out with the old guy and the kid."

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    THR FEBRUARY 17, 2017:
    'Batman' Negotiations Break Down With Director Matt Reeves (Exclusive)
    The studio is intent on making the movie no matter what, as the Batman franchise has proven to be bigger than one person.
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    A week after entering negotiations to direct The Batman, Matt Reeves has exited the talks, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.


    A studio source confirms that negotiations have broken down. The possibility, however, exists that talks could resume when heads cool. The studio is intent on making the movie no matter what, as the Batman franchise has proven to be bigger than one person.


    Reeves is currently deep in postproduction on War for the Planet of the Apes, which is shaping up to be the biggest entry in the Fox franchise.


    Ben Affleck was set to helm the superhero feature, but ultimately decided not to pull double duty as both director and Dark Knight. Affleck co-wrote the script with DC Films co-head Geoff Johns.


    Prior to Reeves' receiving the offer, Ridley Scott and Don't Breathe helmer Fede Alvarez were among the names being floated for the director's chair.


    The Batman is the latest DC/Warner Bros. project to undergo a director shuffle. The Flash stand-alone has gone through multiple directors, including Seth Grahame-Smith and Rick Famuyiwa.

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    FORBES FEB 8, 2017:
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    The 'Batman' Movie Gets New Script, New Director, And Likely 2019 Release
    Screen Rant 02.09.2017:
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    The Batman: Warner Bros. & Ben Affleck ‘Very Happy’ With Current Script

    /film March 15th, 2017:
    ‘The Batman’ Delayed as the Script is Rewritten From Scratch
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    There are two ways to look at all of the noise surrounding The Batman, Ben Affleck‘s upcoming solo adventure as the Caped Crusader. One narrative is that Warner Bros. has no idea what to do with their DC comic book properties. The other is that The Batman is hitting speed bumps because everyone involved is actively working to get this one right and want to avoid disappointing fans who were let down by Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Suicide Squad.


    It has already been reported that The Batman will be delayed due to director Matt Reeves‘ pre-existing commitments to another project. Now, we are hearing that the film is being completely rewritten from scratch.


    That first piece of news comes our way via Variety’s Justin Kroll, who took to Twitter to report that Reeves is working on War For the Planet of the Apes until the end of June, confirming earlier reports from Mark Hughes at Forbes and Sean Gerber of the Batman News podcast. That means The Batman won’t even begin production until 2018 at the earliest, which means that the rumored 2018 release date is impossible.
    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Kroll
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    Hearing Matt Reeves contracted to work on APES till at least end of June, so production on BATMAN likely not starting till 2018

    Kroll also warned that Reeves won’t even meet with any actors until the summer, so outside of Ben Affleck himself, no casting rumors that pop up between now and then will carry much weight.
    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Kroll
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    Also means any casting rumors you hear are likely BS seeing that he wouldn't have time to meet with any talent till at least July

    We can now report that there is more going behind-the-scenes as well. According to sources close to the production, the screenplay for The Batman is being rewritten from the ground up, so it’s entirely possible that everything we’ve heard about the film’s story will no longer be in play.


    For the record, the original screenplay for The Batman was supposedly in flux last month, when it was initially reported that the studio was eyeing a “fresh start.” A day later, it was reported that everyone was happy with the latest draft. Affleck, Chris Terrio, and DC Comics writer and CCO Geoff Johns were among those who worked the first version of the screenplay, which reportedly featured Batman facing off against Deathstroke.


    While the internet’s knee-jerk response to reshoots and rewrites in general is to shout “Trainwreck!”, this actually sounds like good news. This means that Reeves, a talented director and a fine match for the Dark Knight, isn’t simply taking on leftovers – he’s actively involved in tailoring the film to his sensibilities. It’s not clear who is responsible for the new script quite yet, but this feels like everyone slowing down, taking a moment, and setting out to do this right rather than rush to meet a release date.


    At this rate, a 2019 release for The Batman sounds about right. However, the more important thing is that Reeves and Affleck aim to make a great movie, not hit a release date.

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    /film March 19th, 2017:
    Joe Manganiello Sounds Less Certain About Playing Deathstroke in ‘The Batman’ Now

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