Pearl Harbor

[Flyingheart]

Pearl Harbor:



Hey guys!

Found these great vids seeing Michael in action on the set, thought you guys might like this if you haven't seen this yet on your DVD or Blu-ray.

Behind the scenes:

[Flyingheart]

The Making of Pearl Harbor - Sudden Attack!

[kevski]

Interesting quote from a recent article "Ben Affleck, GQs film maker of the year"

------------------------------
More big roles followed. Exactly how and when the tide turned against Affleck is complicated, but certainly one of the first markers was his second Michael Bay movie, Pearl Harbor. "The problem was," he says, "that Michael just wanted to make Armageddon putting it in an aircraft carrier in World War II. You can put it almost anywhere, but you can't put it in the Second World War." Still, Pearl Harbor is one of those movies that, while remembered as something of a fiasco, was actually a significant international hit. And so Affleck, who deferred his usual fee but got a share of the profits, presumably made a fortune.

"Yeah, it worked out pretty well," he says evenly. "Yeah. Although I feel like I earned every penny. I remember someone doing a joke that said, 'That movie Pearl Harbor is the worst thing that happened to America since Pearl Harbor.' "

What are the chances of you ever making a third movie with Michael Bay?

"Uh, I don't have any interest in engaging in that sort of speculation."

------------------------------------------

Would be interesting to hear Bay's thoughts....

[Bayhem]

Would be interesting to hear Bay's thoughts....

Personally, I don't think it's a big deal. They's both pals and it's not like Affleck said that the movie flat-out sucks. I remember him saying a while back that despite some its flaws he still likes "PH". So basically he's saying the same thing in the GQ piece. And if you ask me, compared to some of his other films ("Bounce", "Gigli", "Jersey Girl" and "Surviving Christmas") "Pearl Harbor" is a complete masterpiece. It's also important to point out that many of the actors from the movie are proud of it - Alec Baldwin, Jon Voight, Josh Hartnett, Ewan Bremner and Kate Beckinsale to name a few. Cuba Gooding too (I actually met the guy and briefly we talked about the movie - and yes, he likes it).

Affleck is a cool guy and unlike some other actors (think B. Willis and "Armageddon") he's not going to trash a movie he's in or the director just for the heck of it.

By the way, I find it quite hilarious that so many people on the internet still think that "Pearl Harbor" was a flop. Sure, in terms of critics/reviews it was a flop. But box office-wise. No. Not even close. Good thing that the GQ article mentioned that fact.

The movie made half a billion dollars worldwide and at the time of its release on DVD/VHS it became the most successful DVD of all time. And it stayed that way for a while.

If that's not a sizeable hit I don't know what is.

[HarryCanyon]

Glad i saw it 4 times in theaters but i had to wait for the director's cut to hit DVD and got it for my birthday.

[kevski]

Pearl Harbor is on TV in the UK. Top trending on Twitter, getting a lot of love.

[Bayhem]

Very, very good article about Tom Sizemore and his battle with...well, pretty much everything (from drugs to Val Kilmer). It seems that he barely made it through the "Pearl Harbor" shoot (and gave a great performance I might add).

"...he was strung out again, ending up in the hospital after overdosing on methadone and heroin. Still, he made it through the filming of “Pearl Harbor” (2001) where, he writes, he delivered a pep talk to Ben Affleck. The star appeared to be cracking under the pressure of carrying a Michael Bay extravaganza."

Go through the whole thing, it's worth it - http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1290899

[Flyingheart]

I don't think they are huge buddies Michael and Ben but i think Michael can be proud that he made Ben a big star and that action movies were a hype back than and is still a great part of the Hollywood movie culture now and still very enjoyable to watch.
I believe Michael even said this somewhere that he was proud he made B. A big star and that he even made sure he looked good on camera by fixing his front teeth cause there was space between the two front ones. (Ryan Renalds had this also)

As far as i could remember back than Ben Affleck said he was tired of Michael's way of shooting and wanted to do some "real acting" and was tired of all the action stuff, this is why he wasn't really glad or proud with PH.
I remembered this from when the movie was out in an interview afterwards if i'm correct.

It's the same situation with Shia i believe, but Ben talked way more trash about the movie than Shia ever did. (Maybe cause Ben thought "he's in" and got arrogant."

I remembered all this back when i found a interview on YouTube with Ben regarding PH.

I'll try to find the interview for you guys right now.

[Bayhem]

I don't think they are huge buddies Michael and Ben...

...Ben Affleck said he was tired of Michael's way of shooting and wanted to do some "real acting" and was tired of all the action stuff, this is why he wasn't really glad or proud with PH.

Yeah, that's why he made a bunch of action movies after "Pearl Harbor" ("The Sum of All Fears", "Daredevil", "Paycheck"). Because he was not proud of that film and because he was "tired" of the action stuff...

In your comment you claim that he said a lot of different things but you don't back anything up. I'm pretty sure that movie sites will rush to report if he says that he's "tired" of Bay. So where/when exactly did he said that? And since when they're not "huge buddies"?

[Flyingheart]

Yeah, that's why he made a bunch of action movies after "Pearl Harbor" ("The Sum of All Fears", "Daredevil", "Paycheck"). Because he was not proud of that film and because he was "tired" of the action stuff...

In your comment you claim that he said a lot of different things but you don't back anything up. I'm pretty sure that movie sites will rush to report if he says that he's "tired" of Bay. So where/when exactly did he said that? And since when they're not "huge buddies"?

I can not find that freakin vid anymore.. but trust me i found that vid when i posted the video's on this thread and i thought they were to negative to talk about here.. i didn't wanna bring it up on here but since you guys are talking about it i wanted to correct you on this.
Further i have no idea what the status is of their friendship is right now.

It was with a British lady interviewing Ben and she even asked Josh about it and he agreed a little that Ben wants to do something else (back than.)
Personally i don't have anything against them, they can have their own opinion.


image-350637206.jpg

Maybe one of their agents managed to get it off of the net..? I don't know.
If someone finds it please do post it here, thank you.

Now to leave this behind i found a pretty fun video of bloopers etc.

Funny bloopers:



And for the hell of it :P

Ben Affleck's American Express Card Commercial:

http://youtu.be/OU5566dO5NM
Lol

[Flyingheart]

It could also have been a stunt using psychology to make the movie more appetizing or more digestible for British people if a Hollywood actor would agree it's to much "Hollywood" you know.. so more people might view the movie for the ones who viewed that interview.

Cause i believe a lot of people were bitching about a error in the movie something about a British air squadron not being in the movie cause in Tora Tora Tora! they were in it.. this might have been why Ben made these remarks, i don't know..

[Flyingheart]

The Way We Were trailer:



P.S: Sorry for posting seperate posts everytime.

[jianozi]

Is this part of the interview? But it dosn't contain what you were talkin about.

[Flyingheart]

Is this part of the interview? But it dosn't contain what you were talkin about.
Video Link: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqsfkg_pearl-harbor-ben-affleck-interview_shortfilms#.UU-lblfcfqs

Yeah thats where i got the screenshot from to give you guys an idea of where the interview was held.
But its not the interview i talked about.

I'll try to find the interview somewhere this week if i can ok.

[kucharsk]

Interesting quote from a recent article "Ben Affleck, GQs film maker of the year"

------------------------------
"Yeah, it worked out pretty well," he says evenly. "Yeah. Although I feel like I earned every penny. I remember someone doing a joke that said, 'That movie Pearl Harbor is the worst thing that happened to America since Pearl Harbor.' "

That's OK; I re-watch Pearl Harbor regularly and love it, but have no intention of seeing Argo again.

[Flyingheart]

Hot damn.. Faith Hill totally nailed it with that song. great feelings, memories and emotions are coming back from this song/movie.
So much depth in that song.
Every person who keeps bitching about Pearl Harbor not being historicly correct really doesn't get this movie..

If you hear or see that movie again it really stands out out of all other great WWII movies.. i was a WWII freak when i was younger (less now) and i understood the movie and i saw TORA TOTA TORA as well, and i wanted to forget it as fast as possible cause it was boring as hell! And i couldn't relate to it and forgetting that movie was as easy as blowing air through a whisle.

The Thin Red line was a bit memerable but not very.. Pearl Harbor on the other hand did totally stick to me because there was structure and a story and really showed how these planes really worked and stuff, it intregued me and so i could easily remember everything better.
Michael did a fantastic (mildley said) job at showing what Pearl Harbor meant back than.
And this for someone who lives on the other side of the Atlantic who really didn't have any interest or knowledge for what happened between Japan and USA back than.
Michael you got me totally dragged into the film in every way, and you brought me once again great, fantastic memories with this movie i will never forget it!

If people wanna see a WWII historical correct docu-movie go watch a different movie.

[halofan1]

By the way, I find it quite hilarious that so many people on the internet still think that "Pearl Harbor" was a flop. Sure, in terms of critics/reviews it was a flop. But box office-wise. No. Not even close. Good thing that the GQ article mentioned that fact.

As a huge, huge hater of this film, you can't deny it made money.

And absolutely Pearl Harbor deserves to be in the same breath as Surviving Christmas, Gigli, and some others. 2001-2005 was not kind to Mr. Affleck.

[greensmoke]

As a huge, huge hater of this film, you can't deny it made money.

And absolutely Pearl Harbor deserves to be in the same breath as Surviving Christmas, Gigli, and some others. 2001-2005 was not kind to Mr. Affleck.

Ahh I don't think so.
Pearl harbor deserves to have better reputation.

[Bayhem]

And absolutely Pearl Harbor deserves to be in the same breath as Surviving Christmas, Gigli, and some others. 2001-2005 was not kind to Mr. Affleck.

2001-2005? No. Not true.

Your "hate" is clearly clouding your judgement. After "Pearl Harbor" Affleck made two of the movies he's most proud of and they were well received. And these movies are "Changing Lanes" and "The Sum of All Fears". They were successful at the box office and most critics liked them. His "downfall" started in 2003, two years and a few other movies after "Pearl Harbor". It all started with "Daredevil", then Beniffer, then "Gigli", then "Surviving Christmas" and then "Jersey Girl". It's all from 2003 to 2006. Even his pal Kevin Smith said that it all started in 2003.

So his bad rep is not because of "Pearl Harbor". And a lot of people who write about him still say "the Pearl Harbor star". They don't say "the Jersey Girl star" or "the Gigli star". Ask yourself why.


Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion, and I respect that opinion, but you also have to acknowledge the fact that a lot of folks out there like "Pearl Harbor". A lot. Among womed and young girls, it's actually the most popular Michael Bay film.

So for the fans that movie, with all its flaws (no movie is perfect), is better in every possible way than flops like "Gigli" and "Surviving Christmas".

[kucharsk]

A PH quote from the NY Times article I posted in a different thread:

Having waged these battles often enough, Mr. Bay all but expects to be misunderstood, and to be vindicated. But not always: He took a critical beating for his 2001 war drama “Pearl Harbor, ” a film he maintains was a financial success but on which he said he was hampered by requirements to release it with a PG-13 rating. “I would have made it a little harder,” he said. “There wouldn’t have been as much love story.”

which is, to a certain degree, what the Vista Series version beloved by many of us is.

[halofan1]

2001-2005? No. Not true.

Your "hate" is clearly clouding your judgement. After "Pearl Harbor" Affleck made two of the movies he's most proud of and they were well received. And these movies are "Changing Lanes" and "The Sum of All Fears". They were successful at the box office and most critics liked them. His "downfall" started in 2003, two years and a few other movies after "Pearl Harbor". It all started with "Daredevil", then Beniffer, then "Gigli", then "Surviving Christmas" and then "Jersey Girl". It's all from 2003 to 2006. Even his pal Kevin Smith said that it all started in 2003.

So his bad rep is not because of "Pearl Harbor". And a lot of people who write about him still say "the Pearl Harbor star". They don't say "the Jersey Girl star" or "the Gigli star". Ask yourself why.


Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion, and I respect that opinion, but you also have to acknowledge the fact that a lot of folks out there like "Pearl Harbor". A lot. Among womed and young girls, it's actually the most popular Michael Bay film.

So for the fans that movie, with all its flaws (no movie is perfect), is better in every possible way than flops like "Gigli" and "Surviving Christmas".

Maybe I'm still a little mad at him for DAREDEVIL. But you're right though, CHANGING LANES and SUM OF ALL FEARS were great.

They reference PEARL HARBOR because it made money, not because it was a good film. In fact, up until REVENGE OF THE FALLEN, it was widely regarded as Bay's worst picture, and in some circles still is.

[Bayhem]

They reference PEARL HARBOR because it made money, not because it was a good film.

It made money not only during its theatrical run, but it also made a lot of money when it was released on DVD. And as it was reported, at the time it became the best-selling DVD of all time. Pretty good, to say the least.


As for the "good film" part of your comment. Well, what makes a good film? The answer is nothing. Nada.

Why?

Because "good" or "bad" is not something factual. Critics hate to admit that it's all matter of opinion. The fact that we're both here proves that. You see "Pearl Harbor" as a bad movie, I see it as a good movie. I doubt I'm changing your opinion and you're certainly not changing my opinion. And that's the way it is.

In fact, up until REVENGE OF THE FALLEN, it was widely regarded as Bay's worst picture, and in some circles still is.

In some circles "The Dark Knight" is the greatest motion picture of all time. In some circles "Shawshank" is a boring sentimental crap and one of the worst films of all time. In some circles Obama is a white man spying on America. So this "cirlce" talk is useless. It's the internet - you have an opinion, you have a circle.

As for the movie: just because certain critics and hardcore movie buffs on the web see it as Bay's worst movie doesn't mean that the people who like the movie should automatically agree with them. There's room for every opinion out there. I think we can agree on that.

[kucharsk]

Yep - all you have to do is look at IMdB where Star Wars and Close Encounters of the Third Kind are considered "dull" and "talky" and viewers can't make it more than five minutes into Casablance or Citizen Kane.