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    Default Shia LaBeouf Out of TF4. Ehren Kruger is Writing.

    DreamWorks President of Production Adam Goodman made only a two sentence update on TF4 but it was enough to shed some light on two of the more important aspects of the movie - Story and Male Lead.

    THR: Is making Transformers 4 without Shia LaBeouf risky? Is he out?

    Goodman: The story is going in a different direction now. Ehren Kruger [who wrote the past two Transformers movies] is writing it for us, and we're starting to engage, but I can't say anything more.
    Honestly I'm happy that we'll get a fresh cast and I was really hoping that they would change the writer too. After all that's the easiest way if you want to go in a different direction. And don't get me wrong I love Shia (his performance in the 2007 movie was outstanding) and Ehren, just wanted to see a different take on the story.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...labeouf-315801

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    Looking forward to Ehren's new take on the direction. Hope to see even more thick/emotional storyline and plot twists.

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    yeah i wanted new cast and new writers as well.. dotm looked amazing, but story was lame, we have seen it before. this guy is also writing for spiderman 2.

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    Call me a shia fan, personal let down for me. i Will get over it.
    Not happy with the writer, agreed dotm was boring.
    New fresh blood is needed in the writers department
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    Default Re: Shia LaBeouf Out of TF4. Ehren Kruger is Writing.

    Quote Originally Posted by starscream1017 View Post
    this guy is also writing for spiderman 2.
    Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman (TF 2007, ROTF) are writing Spiderman 2 not Ehren Kruger (ROTF, DOTM). I think Ehren is a great writer. I love Arlington Road, The Ring and The Skeleton Key. Very clever stories but a change is always welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by i-MAN View Post
    Call me a shia fan, personal let down for me.
    I recently watched TF 2007 and I think Shia's performance there is award winning. I can't imagine the first movie without him. Still I think his performance degraded in the sequels and the change was needed especially for him.



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    Default Re: Shia LaBeouf Out of TF4. Ehren Kruger is Writing.

    A lot of "love" on this thread, huh?

    I'm curious, what kind of story do you folks want in a "Transformers" movie? What kind of "script" do you expect? I've seen a lot of complaints about the script and the story in all three films...and no one actually said what was so "bad" about them. And no, it's not the humor. The humor is part of the script, it's not the entire script.


    It's hilarious how many people complain about the story and the script of the "Transformers" films, yet no one says anything about the script or the story of...for example, "The Expendables". The defense is that "The Expendables" is an action movie where badass action stars kick butt. And no one cares about the story or the script.

    Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but last time I checked the "Transformers" films are also action films and they certainly don't pretend to be more than that. So why the double standard? Why "The Expendables" gets a pass and "Transformers" is constantly criticized in that area? And most importantly, why the "script critics" demand so much from the story, while at the same time they keep saying that "Transformers" is just about giant action and giant robots beating the crap out of each other? Make up your minds, folks.


    So...if someone can actually explain that "double standard" to me, I'd be grateful.


    P.S. In my view, Kruger did a good job in "Dark of the Moon". The story was engaging enough and I liked the twist with Sentinel. If that means that I have a bad taste, then so be it.
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    Default Re: Shia LaBeouf Out of TF4. Ehren Kruger is Writing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bayhem View Post
    Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but last time I checked the "Transformers" films are also action films and they certainly don't pretend to be more than that. So why the double standard? Why "The Expendables" gets a pass and "Transformers" is constantly criticized in that area? And most importantly, why the "script critics" demand so much from the story, while at the same time they keep saying that "Transformers" is just about giant action and giant robots beating the crap out of each other? Make up your minds, folks.
    Considering transformers is a well established franchise, surely people have high expectations for a live action movie; and that means a good balance of story, good action and good character development.
    The expectation for expendables was just action (as you would expect from a movie filled with just action movie stars.)

    A movie is pointless if its just action. Incorporating some sort of theme to TF would be good.

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    Its a big mistake to bring back Ehren Kruger as a writer for TF4,don't everyone notice that the story and fight scene are mess since this poor writer join the franchise in TF2 & TF3,his idea is really poor and no imagination at all,we need a solid script like TF1, or maybe find someone talented etc like James Cameron to write the script,we need powerful villain and not the lousy Decepticons Protoform Soldier!!!Please note this seriously..I beg you Michael Bay, cause you are the greatest action director in the world right now,just don't ruin it with Ehren Kruger Script,I rather you find the writer who wrote "The rock" & "Bad Boys 2"...

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    Default Re: Shia LaBeouf Out of TF4. Ehren Kruger is Writing.

    Tf4 could be humans make a space shuttle using tf technology to find other planets with life now finding the planet its unicron disguised with many of the cool unseen decepticons ,relizing from video footage they are building an army, optimus and the other bots search the galaxy for other autobots to kill all the other guys. Now bring in the rest of the wreckers dinobots and make 1.5 billion $ because of all the awesome action

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    I really hope Ehren can pull this off.. i hope he has a crazy filled head with awesome ideas for this movie..
    When i Transform i release rockets with nanobot-viruses that destroys you from within... the fuel inside you will turn into acid, metal will melt instantly...
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    Default Re: Shia LaBeouf Out of TF4. Ehren Kruger is Writing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flyingheart View Post
    I really hope Ehren can pull this off.. i hope he has a crazy filled head with awesome ideas for this movie..
    I hope so too, but if there is a chance to get a new writer please take it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by swishbig View Post
    I hope so too, but if there is a chance to get a new writer please take it!
    Or at least another. I don't think one writer is enough.
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