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    Directed by Gore Verbinski. Here's the first official image of Johnny Depp and Armie Hammer:


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    Too much Jack Sparrow?
    "You know why the departures and the arrivals at LAX are on separate levels? So the 30,000 heartbreakers that come here each month don't notice the 30,000 that are leaving with their hearts broken."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayhem
    Directed by Gore Verbinski. Here's the first official image of Johnny Depp and Armie Hammer:

    <img src="http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5298"/>

    Too much Jack Sparrow?
    Cue Michael Bolton!

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    Too much Jack Sparrow?

    A mixture of Edward Scissorhands and Jack Sparrow.


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    Looks like an Indian medicine man of some sort to me.

    tumblr_lri5j0zUv11r2lk8po1_500.jpg

    The only thing that really says "Jack Sparrow" is that he has some sort of headband on, which (SURPRISE) some Indians actually wore, including Tonto if I remember right. Of course the most famous Tonto, Jay Silverheels, wore a little string instead, but let's keep in mind that the original Lone Ranger didn't draw much inspiration from reality. It was more of a cartoon than anything. It seems this film, on the other hand, looks to do just that, at least as far as Tonto and the Ranger's appearances are concerned.And please, don't let anything I said up there about the original show suggest that I'm not a fan of the Lone Ranger. I just try not to be blinded by nostalgia.

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    "You know why the departures and the arrivals at LAX are on separate levels? So the 30,000 heartbreakers that come here each month don't notice the 30,000 that are leaving with their hearts broken."

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    I like!


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    Looks like the previous trailer was removed by the user. Try this one instead.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqYQxz-tNyA

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    Quote Originally Posted by frolunda71 View Post
    Looks like the previous trailer was removed by the user. Try this one instead.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqYQxz-tNyA
    That one's down too.

    Try this...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoVhgaj6PiE



    Good stuff.

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    2nd trailer! Use the 720p option.


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    I've been waiting for this movie for 25 years since it was in development hell in Starlog magazine when i heard John Landis was gonna direct but the project got shelved all those years.

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    Has anyone seen this yet? (Early screening, etc.) Because I'm hearing that the reviews for this movie are—um, well—not satisfactory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    ...I'm hearing that the reviews for this movie are—um, well—not satisfactory.

    It's a big, Bruckheimer-produced summer movie. I'm not, at all, surprised that it receives bad/mixed reviews. Speaking for myself I'll see this movie even if it's trashed by every single person on the planet. It's been a while since I've seen a "funny western" and honestly...."The Lone Ranger" looks ridiculously entertaining. I'm certainly there when it opens.
    "You know why the departures and the arrivals at LAX are on separate levels? So the 30,000 heartbreakers that come here each month don't notice the 30,000 that are leaving with their hearts broken."

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    Their biggest selling point is "it's from the same guys who brought you Pirates of the Caribbean".

    I see don't see this one being all that successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIMtationX View Post
    Their biggest selling point is "it's from the same guys who brought you Pirates of the Caribbean". I see don't see this one being all that successful.

    It is their biggest selling point because "Pirates" is one of the biggest franchises in history. Makes perfect sense to use it as a marketing tool. Doesn't mean it'll automatically make "The Lone Ranger" a box office success but it's certainly a bonus. Especially when it comes to the european audiences. The "Pirates of the Caribbean" brand is huge there (same for Depp). And big summer movies like "The Lone Ranger" rely heavily on the overseas market.
    "You know why the departures and the arrivals at LAX are on separate levels? So the 30,000 heartbreakers that come here each month don't notice the 30,000 that are leaving with their hearts broken."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post

    Yeah, the numbers are pretty bad.

    I saw it the other day and, as expected, I really liked it. A fun summer ride. It's unfortunate that it's not doing better at the box office and as far as Bruckheimer is concerned it's a huge, huge loss. It's a known fact that some of the money for the movie were coming directly from his own pocket so you can be sure that he's not very happy at this particular moment. I've always been a huge fan of the man but his brand is taking a serious beating.

    First "The Prince of Persia", then "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" and now "The Lone Ranger". All very expensive movies that underperformed or flat-out flopped at the box office. At this point he can only rely on the "Pirates" brand.

    Personally I really miss the 90's/early 00's Jerry Bruckheimer. I miss movies like "Crimson Tide", "Enemy of the State", "Gone in 60 Seconds", "The Rock" and "Con Air". Not that expensive yet very, very effective...and successful at the box office.

    Hard for me to accept it but with the death of Tony Scott that era is now officially gone.
    "You know why the departures and the arrivals at LAX are on separate levels? So the 30,000 heartbreakers that come here each month don't notice the 30,000 that are leaving with their hearts broken."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayhem View Post
    Yeah, the numbers are pretty bad.

    I saw it the other day and, as expected, I really liked it. A fun summer ride. It's unfortunate that it's not doing better at the box office and as far as Bruckheimer is concerned it's a huge, huge loss. It's a known fact that some of the money for the movie were coming directly from his own pocket so you can be sure that he's not very happy at this particular moment. I've always been a huge fan of the man but his brand is taking a serious beating.

    First "The Prince of Persia", then "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" and now "The Lone Ranger". All very expensive movies that underperformed or flat-out flopped at the box office. At this point he can only rely on the "Pirates" brand.

    Personally I really miss the 90's/early 00's Jerry Bruckheimer. I miss movies like "Crimson Tide", "Enemy of the State", "Gone in 60 Seconds", "The Rock" and "Con Air". Not that expensive yet very, very effective...and successful at the box office.

    Hard for me to accept it but with the death of Tony Scott that era is now officially gone.
    I think part of it has to be the fact that The Lone Ranger was popular way back in the 50s. It's hard for this generation (and the one before it), to get really excited about something they were never actually apart of.

    But you're right about the old Bruckheimer movies. "The Rock" and "Con Air" are a couple of my favorites. Always watch them when they're on TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayhem View Post

    Personally I really miss the 90's/early 00's Jerry Bruckheimer. I miss movies like "Crimson Tide", "Enemy of the State", "Gone in 60 Seconds", "The Rock" and "Con Air". Not that expensive yet very, very effective...and successful at the box office.

    Hard for me to accept it but with the death of Tony Scott that era is now officially gone.
    Couldn't agree more. I don't really like talking about box office takes, but I wonder if as an unintended consequence, we will see a return to these types of films in the Brucks stable. Or whether that format has simply become more profitable in TV for him.

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    Wow, I like it. It's not just goofy popcorn flick, but serious historical commentary.
    lots of superb action sequences captivate me. How did it bomb in box office?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r-type View Post
    ...I wonder if as an unintended consequence, we will see a return to these types of films in the Brucks stable.

    I was asking myself the same thing.

    But it doesn't look good. Here's what JB said in a brand new interview:


    "We had Hollywood Pictures, which is now basically done by DreamWorks. And we now make Disney movies, which are PG or PG-13. So a lot of the films they made in the 1990s you can't make anymore. "


    As they say in the interview these days it's easier to make a $150 million movie than a $40 million movie. Weird, but apparently it's true.

    Anyway, go through the whole thing, it's pretty interesting - http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/jerr...on-air-critics
    "You know why the departures and the arrivals at LAX are on separate levels? So the 30,000 heartbreakers that come here each month don't notice the 30,000 that are leaving with their hearts broken."

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    I know Bayhem already posted this in the TF4 forum but I think it's relevant here too: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,4257389.story

    What blows my mind is how they could spend that much money on this kind of movie. Marky Mark pretty much killed it when he said "They're spending $250 million for two dudes on a horse? Where's the money going?" For a comparison, Dark of the Moon had a budget of $190 million, and that movie had what was probably the most intricate CGI models and visual effects ILM has ever produced. At least you know where the money went in that movie. That's one of the things I love about Michael Bay, he knows how to keep a movie's cost down and make use of every penny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    I know Bayhem already posted this in the TF4 forum but I think it's relevant here too: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,4257389.story

    What blows my mind is how they could spend that much money on this kind of movie. Marky Mark pretty much killed it when he said "They're spending $250 million for two dudes on a horse? Where's the money going?" For a comparison, Dark of the Moon had a budget of $190 million, and that movie had what was probably the most intricate CGI models and visual effects ILM has ever produced. At least you know where the money went in that movie. That's one of the things I love about Michael Bay, he knows how to keep a movie's cost down and make use of every penny.
    I guess that the money went to build a real, couple of miles long railroad track in the middle of a desert and ship a real steam train to the desert as well...
    But $250 million for that movie sure is a lot! As you said, it didn't have even close to so much complicated CGI stuff as DOTM had!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayhem View Post
    I was asking myself the same thing.

    But it doesn't look good. Here's what JB said in a brand new interview:


    "We had Hollywood Pictures, which is now basically done by DreamWorks. And we now make Disney movies, which are PG or PG-13. So a lot of the films they made in the 1990s you can't make anymore. "


    As they say in the interview these days it's easier to make a $150 million movie than a $40 million movie. Weird, but apparently it's true.

    Anyway, go through the whole thing, it's pretty interesting - http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/jerr...on-air-critics
    Great article as always Bayhem!
    Too bad Bruckheimer can't do movies like he did back in the 90's. Today everything has to be PG-13 just so a movie can make as much money as possible at the box office. Personally I find it ridiculous that a movie gets R-rated just because somebody says the word fuck in it's various forms. Then there can hardly be any blood either. Guess the movies are gonna be released in two versions in the future like with the case of Wolverine. It's PG-13 at the movie theaters and it's gonna be released in a director's uncut version on Blu-ray with more sliced heads and hands and guts and blood spilling all over the place. It's pretty funny with these sword fights in todays PG-13 movies like in Wolverine and G.I. Joe 2. A guy slices another guy in half with a sword and the sword is crystal clear! No blood on the blade of the sword just cause the movie is PG-13...
    Thank God for directors like Tarantino who doesn't know what the hell PG-13 means!

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    I will see this movie when its out on Blu-Ray. I think I will actually really like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailbreaker View Post
    I know Bayhem already posted this in the TF4 forum but I think it's relevant here too: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,4257389.story

    What blows my mind is how they could spend that much money on this kind of movie. Marky Mark pretty much killed it when he said "They're spending $250 million for two dudes on a horse? Where's the money going?" For a comparison, Dark of the Moon had a budget of $190 million, and that movie had what was probably the most intricate CGI models and visual effects ILM has ever produced. At least you know where the money went in that movie. That's one of the things I love about Michael Bay, he knows how to keep a movie's cost down and make use of every penny.
    Here's a comparison:

    Django Unchained was made for $100 million, made almost $163 million domestically, and $261 million internationally, for about $424 million worldwide. Its biggest names were Jamie Foxx, Leo DiCaprio, and the director Quentin Tarantino.

    The Lone Ranger was made for $215 million, made about $87 million domestically, and almost $89 million internationally, totaling about $176 million worldwide. It starred Johnny Depp, Helena Bonham Carter, and was directed by Gore Verbinski.

    There's really no excuse. Instead of inflating it and trying to make it an effects-driven blockbuster, they should have concentrated on the script, the characters, the story, and the tone. A lean, spaghetti-western inspired version of the Lone Ranger could have been really cool. Instead they bought into this revisionist history crap that Tonto was always the real star, same as what happened with the Green Hornet (who, by the way, was from the same creator, and was in fact supposed to be a relative of the Lone Ranger).

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