iPhone 4S, Siri...

[nelson]

One of the best things about the internet and it various forms of social networks is that fact that a person can maintain an online persona that completely hides and/or contradicts your real personality, beliefs and opinions.

Actually, I go by my real name. My opinions are widely know by those here as are my beliefs and persona. So who are you referring to?

[Albershide]

I love Apple's products but Nelson you sound like you have a share in that company.

[evergamer]

In the very near future desktops and laptops will be a thing of the past.

Of course not all desktops will be gone.

:head

Please show me how I'm wrong by quoting facts or essay from prominent tech writers instead of name-calling.

1. You claimed desktops and laptops would be gone in 'the near future'(in the I.T. field that's less than 5 years, maybe even less than 3)

2. You then say 'oh nevermind, not all of them'.

3. You then share a sales forecast assuming desktop sales will drop only 5% over the next 4 years, and laptops only 1% over the next 4 years.

4. Now, let's go back to Step 1, where you claimed desktops and laptops will disappear.


So please, you show me what "facts" or "essays" say that Desktops and/or Laptops will be gone within 5 years. Declined a bit? Yes. Declined a lot from 3 years ago? Obviously. But gone? Like, forever? Not a chance.

Lastly...name-calling? I never called you anything. I said I think you are trolling us, and I still do.

[nelson]

I love Apple's products but Nelson you sound like you have a share in that company.

Actually, I hate misinformation of any kind and bias. It's one thing to have a discussion on facts and another on anecdotal evidence.

[nelson]

:head



1. You claimed desktops and laptops would be gone in 'the near future'(in the I.T. field that's less than 5 years, maybe even less than 3)

2. You then say 'oh nevermind, not all of them'.

3. You then share a sales forecast assuming desktop sales will drop only 5% over the next 4 years, and laptops only 1% over the next 4 years.

4. Now, let's go back to Step 1, where you claimed desktops and laptops will disappear.


So please, you show me what "facts" or "essays" say that Desktops and/or Laptops will be gone within 5 years. Declined a bit? Yes. Declined a lot from 3 years ago? Obviously. But gone? Like, forever? Not a chance.

Lastly...name-calling? I never called you anything. I said I think you are trolling us, and I still do.

Actually, if you can't discern the term "a thing of the past" as metaphorical, maybe I should just stop.

Mainframe computers are a thing of the past as are Studebakers, but that doesn't mean that some people still have them and use them.

The way technology is going, desktop will eventually disappears. Or do I have to point out how new technology has replaced the old?

And the reason I don't go by IT's timeline is because IT people are the worse at predicting trends.

[nelson]

I just have one question: those bashing Apple and/or it's products, have you guys ever owned one or used one for a prolonged time?

[megatron42]

my self i've owned both apple and android.. i like them both apple is more easier to use i'm done with the whole android phone

[evergamer]

Actually, I hate misinformation of any kind and bias. It's one thing to have a discussion on facts and another on anecdotal evidence.

This whole thread points in the opposite direction. Seriously.

Actually, if you can't discern the term "a thing of the past" as metaphorical, maybe I should just stop.

Oh. So we're debating android/iOS by using metaphors now? I didn't realize I should be reading between the lines of your 'apple has world domination; everything else is trash' hyperbole fest.

Mainframe computers are a thing of the past as are Studebakers, but that doesn't mean that some people still have them and use them.

The way technology is going, desktop will eventually disappears. Or do I have to point out how new technology has replaced the old?

Of. Course. They. Will. But that is a VERY long ways away. It's even further away when it comes to businesses, and high end applications. ie: video editing, gaming, graphic rendering.

And the reason I don't go by IT's timeline is because IT people are the worse at predicting trends.

So what is 'very near future' to you then? I was being generous by saying 5 years is very near. I want to know what you consider 'very near future'. Oh, and IT people are bad at predicting trends because we live in reality. While people are predicting trends, we're making sure they have functional tools available to predict those trends.

I just have one question: those bashing Apple and/or it's products, have you guys ever owned one or used one for a prolonged time?

Yep. I haven't owned anything recently, but there's still an iPod nano in my house. I've setup numerous iOS devices for new users, repaired maybe a dozen Macbooks, installed OS X a few times now, and most recently I setup my father-in-law's house to interface with his iPad(music streaming, bluetooth stuff all over the place, airprint, etc).

I don't think it was directed at me, but if I recall, I never bashed them. I only said I dislike iTunes, and Apple as a company, and that I prefer Android/Google. I'm just BS'ing about the two.



Another question for everyone who seems to love the word 'anecdote': How else do you("you" on a personal level) have a discussion about a product, based on anything but personal experiences? Do you just regurgitate what Apple/Google/MS says and hope people buy in to it? You can throw around trends, analysis, and whatever other impersonal information you want, but on a realistic, personal level, like you were having a drink with a friend and each of you are telling the other about your product of choice, do you all really use the manufacturers propaganda to prove your points?

[Mr Majestic]

I just have one question: those bashing Apple and/or it's products, have you guys ever owned one or used one for a prolonged time?

Yes, I had an iPod and the first gen iPhone for about 4 weeks... it just never appealed to me like they did for everyone else. First of all, I have big hands (not fat, just big) and I found typing out messaging on the touchscreen too annoying and difficult at times, secondly that fact that you can't freely share music with others (not endorsing piracy) but simply not being able to transfer songs or video's i had produced or remixed to other iPhone users, Dj's & producers, animators, designers, VJ's etc. I ended up having to email the song or video as a compressed format attachment. Thirdly the inability to use the device as an external HDD without various restrictions and lastly I think i was immune to iPhone fever. When it came out people were acting like God himself/herself came down from the heavens, proceeded to bend over and then dropped a big fat fresh dookie in their hands and it was the best thing ever! Suddenly all was right in the world, all murders, rapes, greed, corruption, hunger & poverty mysteriously vanished while people wallowed in sweet ignorant bliss. It's not simply a iPhone VS Android, Mac VS PC, PS3 VS Xbox 360 issue... i just find that some iPhone users behave like a different class of people.

[TIMtationX]

I just have one question: those bashing Apple and/or it's products, have you guys ever owned one or used one for a prolonged time?

I sometimes rag on some of the diehard fanboys, but I think it's pretty stupid and ignorant to bash everything Apple. It's almost comical how much they have influenced the market over the past several years. And my iPod Touch gets used so much it's going to turn into dust soon.

But phone wise I guess the main reason I prefer Android is the customization. Couple that with 3rd party apps and you can go crazy with personalizing and really make the phone your own. I also prefer the larger phone screens.

[nelson]

Yes, I had an iPod and the first gen iPhone for about 4 weeks... it just never appealed to me like they did for everyone else. First of all, I have big hands (not fat, just big) and I found typing out messaging on the touchscreen too annoying and difficult at times,

Ok, valid point.

secondly that fact that you can't freely share music with others (not endorsing piracy) but simply not being able to transfer songs or video's i had produced or remixed to other iPhone users, Dj's & producers, animators, designers, VJ's etc. I ended up having to email the song or video as a compressed format attachment.

This is a phone that we're talking about, but ok.

Thirdly the inability to use the device as an external HDD without various restrictions and lastly I think i was immune to iPhone fever.

Again, it's a phone, but oh well.

When it came out people were acting like God himself/herself came down from the heavens, proceeded to bend over and then dropped a big fat fresh dookie in their hands and it was the best thing ever! Suddenly all was right in the world, all murders, rapes, greed, corruption, hunger & poverty mysteriously vanished while people wallowed in sweet ignorant bliss. It's not simply a iPhone VS Android, Mac VS PC, PS3 VS Xbox 360 issue... i just find that some iPhone users behave like a different class of people.

See, now you're guilty of doing what you're accusing Apple fans of doing.

As far as I can tell in this thread, no one has treated you the way you've treated Apple fans in this thread.

[megatron42]

i'm creating a thread iphone vs android this is getting way off base running nelson down cause he likes apple product.. i had an iphone in the past

[r-type]

i'm creating a thread iphone vs android this is getting way off base running nelson down cause he likes apple product.. i had an iphone in the past

This is my slow clap moment.

For what? This one devolved into one just fine already, no need for another one.

[TIMtationX]

Funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h5JS...e_gdata_player

[Flyingheart]

I've had the Iphone 4S for a week or so now and it's been really nice so far having this phone

I got a decent screen protector on it now and a nice case around it and its REALLY NICE to have this thing in my hand, looks good, feels good, sounds good.
I'm really glad to have this phone, the menu's are great and clear and easy to use, great web-surfing experience so far no problems with viruses and sh*t like that.

Freakin awesome camera! great apps! extensive contacts is great and being able to add people from the Gouden Gids (white pages for US) to my contacts is awesome and easy to have!
Being able to view where pictures were taken = WTF? O_o lol great 3G experience so far, texting is great, i haven't used Face Time yet but I'll try it this weekend maybe.
Great satellite tracking, the TomTom apps are freakin expensive but that has nothing to do with the iPhone of course, the map of Europe are twice as expensive then the maps of Canada and America combined.. a*sholes TomTom -_-
I got about 4 to 5 email addresses added to my phone so i can view all my emails in ONE inbox ITS FANTASTIC! for important emails i go behind my Windows 7 PC of course.

Some negative things:
- When surfing and entering some sites i did get redirected to some sites but it was my own fault of course for visiting sites that do that.
- No Flash, but most sites have alternatives for Flash so its still viewable.


I'm just saying what i am experiencing with the iPhone, i see a lot of negativity here on the forum AGAIN, so don't start giving me bullshit comments like "ohh your ramming it down my throat nag nag nag blablabla."

[Flyingheart]

You guys can argue and discuss stuff all you want but just don't give me sh*t for my previous post alright..

IPHONE IS BETTER! bwahaha lol, just kidding

[megatron42]

man how we went from talking about siri... to android phones

[Flyingheart]

man how we went from talking about siri... to android phones

Yeah great thread XD i don't know its just that some great things get massive fans/groups/followers and they tend to get irritated by the opposite group lol, its just like us TF fans and HP fans you know, but I'm trying to be less serious about it all now.. there are worse things in the world then these things like the financial crisis were all in..

[Flyingheart]

OMfreakinG dudes O_o i was surfing on the web, getting in and out of Apps to search for something for my brother while he was ON THE PHONE! O_o XD with speaker on =D and no lagg what so ever! this iPhone is awesome!! XD :P sorry android guys :P

[evergamer]

sorry android guys :P

lol, why? I do that often.

[megatron42]

i left android.. and now i joined the darkside and bought an apple iphone 16G from sprint, my girlfriend called me a traitor
i said no i'm not

[Flyingheart]

i joined the darkside and bought an apple iphone 16G from sprint, my girlfriend called me a traitor

lol, why are people acting like having a certain brand is like being in a cult or something???
The lord old mighty has nothing to do with this, religion should stay in churches people. :P

[megatron42]

i was using the refrence of starwars.. when anakin joined them to become darth vader

[Flyingheart]

i was using the refrence of starwars.. when anakin joined them to become darth vader

Oh that makes perfect sense.

Anybody know if there is a Transformers 1/2/3 iPhone 4/4S case??

[Flyingheart]

WATCH TILL THE END!



they probably both fake anyways but we'll never know will we..