Bonecrusher is ALIVE!!

[trashcollector]

This is just my theory, but I think that Bonecrusher is still at large in a small size because when Frenzy lost his body trying to get the glasses from Sam, he was still alive and able to move.

And Bonecrusher lost his connection with his body after dueling with Optimus Prime. So I think that Bonecrusher is still alive, tending this wounds and waiting to be casted in the next film with all the other constructicons.

Anybody agree with me?

[Smokescreen_5]

Uhh.. Bonecrusher is dead. Frenzy is dead. Jazz is Dead. Blackout is Dead. Brawl is dead. Megatron is dead. Lets move forward with new characters!

[Shadow]

This is just my theory, but I think that Bonecrusher is still at large in a small size because when Frenzy lost his body trying to get the glasses from Sam, he was still alive and able to move.

And Bonecrusher lost his connection with his body after dueling with Optimus Prime. So I think that Bonecrusher is still alive, tending this wounds and waiting to be casted in the next film with all the other constructicons.

Anybody agree with me?


Uhh.. Bonecrusher is dead. Frenzy is dead. Jazz is Dead. Blackout is Dead. Brawl is dead. Megatron is dead. Lets move forward with new characters! You are right about Bonecrusher. If they really wanted to bring him back they could. Frenzy lost his head and still lived so why not Bonecrusher? If the Constucticons are indeed in the next movie he should be there as well. And no one knows for sure that Magatron is dead. Yes the Allspark seemed to shut him down but there is no clearification that it destroied him. He may just be in a shutdown mode. The power from the cube may just make him more powerful.

[Smokescreen_5]

You are right about Bonecrusher. If they really wanted to bring him back they could. Frenzy lost his head and still lived so why not Bonecrusher? If the Constucticons are indeed in the next movie he should be there as well. And no one knows for sure that Magatron is dead. Yes the Allspark seemed to shut him down but there is no clearification that it destroied him. He may just be in a shutdown mode. The power from the cube may just make him more powerful.

Frenzys' Head was chopped off and then transformed into a spider looking thing that changed into a phone, yes this is true. But while he was having a battle with the Defense Secretary, Glen and Maggie, you may recall that he threw out one of his ninja looking stars, and it boomaranged back at him and split his head in two, killing him. Unless of course he just said, "Oh Shit!", for no apparent reason.

[megatron42]

i ain't dead yet i'll be back in the sequel built bigger and badder

[Smokescreen_5]

i ain't dead yet i'll be back in the sequel built bigger and badder

Jazz: You wanna piece of me?

[uraydo]

I have a theory (and really this is me trying to explain away a badly written script) that Frenzy's regenerative attributes were more advanced than any other Transformer in the movie. this would explain how he survived as a head, how he changed form with ease (?Bumblebee?) and how his parts were the most manipulatable of the cast of bots. (how he transformed into a cell phone.)

if this theory was true, it would allow frenzy to survive a two thirds of his head being cut off. However if his spark was located in his head, the trauma of his final injury could have been enough to kill him.


I hate bad story telling. you would not believe the flack I receive from my peers for liking this movie.... I get more flack from my teachers.

[Shadow]

Frenzys' Head was chopped off and then transformed into a spider looking thing that changed into a phone, yes this is true. But while he was having a battle with the Defense Secretary, Glen and Maggie, you may recall that he threw out one of his ninja looking stars, and it boomaranged back at him and split his head in two, killing him. Unless of course he just said, "Oh Shit!", for no apparent reason. We all know about him killing himself with the star. What he was refering to was if Frenzy could have his head chopped off and live then why couldnt Boncrusher, thats all. Remember the transformers can regenerate. So as long as a spark remains they can heal themselves. We really dont know if there sparks were extinguished. Remember its hollywood so anything or anyone can come back. Both the Boncrusher and Brawl toys state they were not killed. Brawl was revived buy the cubes powers when it merged with Megatron and Bonecrusher did do just what we are talking about. He regenerated and hid in the South Americas and took on a green color for camo wich to me hints at the traditional coloring of the Constucticons.

[trashcollector]

Thank you Shadow2879, at least you know what I am talking about. Of Course I know Frenzy died after getting himself ninja starred, but I was talking about the first time when he got his head cut off.

And another thing about Bonecrusher's death is that there were no "sparks" flying out from his body when he was being cut, only the orange "normal sparks" that you see in everyday life which means that Bonecrusher's might still be alive and Michael Bay better put him in.

[Shadow]

Thank you Shadow2879, at least you know what I am talking about. Of Course I know Frenzy died after getting himself ninja starred, but I was talking about the first time when he got his head cut off.

And another thing about Bonecrusher's death is that there were no "sparks" flying out from his body when he was being cut, only the orange "normal sparks" that you see in everyday life which means that Bonecrusher's might still be alive and Michael Bay better put him in.Well all I can say is that if Bay wants to use the Constuticons then Bonecrusher need to be brought back

Movie Deluxe Class Jungle Bonecrusher (2008/unreleased)A redeco of the original Deluxe class toy and part of the "Allspark Power" series. The toy tech-specs state after his fight with Prime, he fled until he was in the South-American jungle and, like Deep-Desert Brawl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brawl_%28Transformers%29), altered his form to blend in. It is not known if this will involve a sequel.

[megatron42]

Jazz: You wanna piece of me?

no, i want two!

[xAgonyxScenex]

nope...dont agree with you....he got a sword through the face...he's gone!

[Smokescreen_5]

We all know about him killing himself with the star. What he was refering to was if Frenzy could have his head chopped off and live then why couldnt Boncrusher, thats all. Remember the transformers can regenerate. So as long as a spark remains they can heal themselves. We really dont know if there sparks were extinguished. Remember its hollywood so anything or anyone can come back. Both the Boncrusher and Brawl toys state they were not killed. Brawl was revived buy the cubes powers when it merged with Megatron and Bonecrusher did do just what we are talking about. He regenerated and hid in the South Americas and took on a green color for camo wich to me hints at the traditional coloring of the Constucticons.

Uhhhhhhhh.. yeah.. the toys came out before the movie. Before the movie, they were alive. After the movie .. they were dead. I've looked at all of the toy figures. Bonecrusher deluxe figure, Brawl deluxe figure, Brawl Leader figure, Brawl that came in the package with Scorponok and Ultimate Bumblebee, as well as the package from Sam's club that came with Deluxe Brawl, Bonecrusher, and Jazz. Nowhere on those packages do they say anything about being revived and not killed and or hiding in the South Americas with camo coloring. Otherwise, wherever you are getting your information, is unsubstantiated. And no, this is not me walking all over you, or trying to put you down in any way. It's me telling you that you may want to verify the facts first.

[Shadow]

Uhhhhhhhh.. yeah.. the toys came out before the movie. Before the movie, they were alive. After the movie .. they were dead. I've looked at all of the toy figures. Bonecrusher deluxe figure, Brawl deluxe figure, Brawl Leader figure, Brawl that came in the package with Scorponok and Ultimate Bumblebee, as well as the package from Sam's club that came with Deluxe Brawl, Bonecrusher, and Jazz. Nowhere on those packages do they say anything about being revived and not killed and or hiding in the South Americas with camo coloring. Otherwise, wherever you are getting your information, is unsubstantiated. And no, this is not me walking all over you, or trying to put you down in any way. It's me telling you that you may want to verify the facts first. My info on these toys is of the 08 releases that are to be released in 08.


Movie Deluxe Class Jungle Bonecrusher (2008/unreleased)A redeco of the original Deluxe class toy and part of the "Allspark Power" series. The toy tech-specs state after his fight with Prime, he fled until he was in the South-American jungle and, like Deep-Desert Brawl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brawl_%28Transformers%29), altered his form to blend in. It is not known if this will involve a sequel.
Movie Fast Acton Battlers Deep Desert Brawl (2008/unreleased)A redeco of Fast Action Battlers Brawl.
Movie Leader Class Deep Desert Brawl (unreleased)A redeco of Leader Class Brawl in tan with blue highlights. "Saturated with power from the AllSpark and freed from the influence of MEGATRON, DECEPTICON BRAWL disappeared into the rugged land around the Hoover Dam. Making his way over the course of months to the most troubled spot on Earth, he adapted his vehicle mode to the new environment, went to ground and waited. Hiding in the deep desert, he soaks up energy from the blazing sun, and emerges only to satisfy his hunger for destruction by attacking and annihilating human convoys and armored columns. He is a ghost in the desert, attacking randomly and without reason, and disappearing before human air power can arrive to track him. To those living in the region, he is a myth, but to those few who survive his attacks he is a monster." . Like Jungle Attack Bonecrusher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonecrusher_%28Transformers%29), it is unknown if this will affect the sequels.

[Smokescreen_5]

My info on these toys is of the 08 releases that are to be released in 08.
Movie Deluxe Class Jungle Bonecrusher (2008/unreleased)A redeco of the original Deluxe class toy and part of the "Allspark Power" series. The toy tech-specs state after his fight with Prime, he fled until he was in the South-American jungle and, like Deep-Desert Brawl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brawl_%28Transformers%29), altered his form to blend in. It is not known if this will involve a sequel.
Movie Fast Acton Battlers Deep Desert Brawl (2008/unreleased)A redeco of Fast Action Battlers Brawl.
Movie Leader Class Deep Desert Brawl (unreleased)A redeco of Leader Class Brawl in tan with blue highlights. "Saturated with power from the AllSpark and freed from the influence of MEGATRON, DECEPTICON BRAWL disappeared into the rugged land around the Hoover Dam. Making his way over the course of months to the most troubled spot on Earth, he adapted his vehicle mode to the new environment, went to ground and waited. Hiding in the deep desert, he soaks up energy from the blazing sun, and emerges only to satisfy his hunger for destruction by attacking and annihilating human convoys and armored columns. He is a ghost in the desert, attacking randomly and without reason, and disappearing before human air power can arrive to track him. To those living in the region, he is a myth, but to those few who survive his attacks he is a monster." . Like Jungle Attack Bonecrusher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonecrusher_%28Transformers%29), it is unknown if this will affect the sequels.

Ahh.. ok.. so you got it off of wikipedia. Hmm.. Well anybody can add information to that site, so its sometimes a good source for information, other times its not. Has there been anything released by Hasbro about any toys of that sort? I saw Australia had a bluish colored Leader Class Optimus Prime called Nightwatch Optimus Prime (http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-Optimus-Prime-Night-Watch-HOT_W0QQitemZ200191111429QQihZ010QQcategoryZ155343 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) or something like that.. and I think it came with a blue sword (saw that off of eBay), other than that, the only new figures I've seen since the movie are Final Battle Jazz (http://www.hasbro.com/default.cfm?page=ps_results&product_id=19860), Recon Barricade (http://www.hasbro.com/default.cfm?page=ps_results&product_id=20494), Autobot Camshaft (http://www.hasbro.com/default.cfm?page=ps_results&product_id=20596), and Cliffjumper (http://www.hasbro.com/default.cfm?page=ps_results&product_id=20595). So not really sure where the comments about a Jungle Bonecrusher or Brawl came from. Is there something online elsewhere that talks about it besides Wikipedia? Like for example on www.bwtf.com (http://www.bwtf.com) or www.tfarchive.com (http://www.tfarchive.com) ?

[Shadow]

Ahh.. ok.. so you got it off of wikipedia. Hmm.. Well anybody can add information to that site, so its sometimes a good source for information, other times its not. Has there been anything released by Hasbro about any toys of that sort? I saw Australia had a bluish colored Leader Class Optimus Prime called Nightwatch Optimus Prime (http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-Optimus-Prime-Night-Watch-HOT_W0QQitemZ200191111429QQihZ010QQcategoryZ155343 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) or something like that.. and I think it came with a blue sword (saw that off of eBay), other than that, the only new figures I've seen since the movie are Final Battle Jazz (http://www.hasbro.com/default.cfm?page=ps_results&product_id=19860), Recon Barricade (http://www.hasbro.com/default.cfm?page=ps_results&product_id=20494), Autobot Camshaft (http://www.hasbro.com/default.cfm?page=ps_results&product_id=20596), and Cliffjumper (http://www.hasbro.com/default.cfm?page=ps_results&product_id=20595). So not really sure where the comments about a Jungle Bonecrusher or Brawl came from. Is there something online elsewhere that talks about it besides Wikipedia? Like for example on www.bwtf.com (http://www.bwtf.com) or www.tfarchive.com (http://www.tfarchive.com) ?Bro everything about TFs dose not have to come from these sights.
Go to TFORMERS.com and SEIBERTRON.com

Movie Deluxe Jungle Bonecrusher & Overcast

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JUNGLE BONECRUSHER

Barely functional after his battle with Optimus Prime, Bonecrusher crawled away from the scene of his defeat and hid. Effecting what few repairs he could on his own, he also removed his locator beacon and communications hardware, cutting himself off entirely from the other surviving Decepticons.


Fleeing south, farther and farther, he eventually found himself deep in the jungles of South America (http://tformers.com/transformers-movie-deluxe-jungle/8713/news.html#). Hidden in the most remote area on Earth, he is free to indulge his rage on the rainforest without interruption.
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http://tformers.net/g/generated/8713/005__scaled_500.jpg (http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&album=8713&dispsize=800&start=0)

[S!gma]

throwing in my 6 cents...

In one case [like the Beast wars] a body can be destroyed but by "re-polarizing" or by simply channeling the spark from the afterlife a Cybertronian can be revived, or put into a completley new body.

Which can explain rebirth, but is sort of corny because if characters cannot die [be destroyed] who the hell cares how many times you blow them up?
IMO it will discredit any future prime killings as sequel fodder.


If on the other hand the dead are gone it makes the series feel more real, and with Bay's promise that there will be new and amazing TFs in the next I hope that few are brought back.

The list is something like all Autobots except Jazz, Starscream, Barricade and Scorponok are alive. Megatron and frenzy seem dead, Blackout is also down. To me it seems like Bonecrusher is dead. Slow-mo that Mo-fo and it looks like prime jams the sword down his chest into his spark, and then rips BC's head off for good measure. While Constructicons stay a popular topic, Devastator is dead too, toys call him brawl but in the movie we are going to have to deal with it... or ignore it completley.

[Smokescreen_5]

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JUNGLE BONECRUSHER

Barely functional after his battle with Optimus Prime, Bonecrusher crawled away from the scene of his defeat and hid. Effecting what few repairs he could on his own, he also removed his locator beacon and communications hardware, cutting himself off entirely from the other surviving Decepticons.


Fleeing south, farther and farther, he eventually found himself deep in the jungles of South America (http://tformers.com/transformers-movie-deluxe-jungle/8713/news.html#). Hidden in the most remote area on Earth, he is free to indulge his rage on the rainforest without interruption.
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http://tformers.net/g/generated/8713/005__scaled_500.jpg (http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&album=8713&dispsize=800&start=0)


And I presume that you have links to the actual figures? Pictures? Something of that sort? After seeing there was a Nightwatch Optimus Prime out there, its very possible. Oh cool.. .there is a Jungle Bonecrusher (http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-Movie-2007-Jungle-Bonecrusher_W0QQitemZ250203593437QQihZ015QQcategor yZ155343QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem), but I don't see a Brawl out there. It doesn't give much details about it, and I can't read whats on the back, but thats cool that they've got them coming out.. looks like theres a few others coming out as well.. Overcast, Landmine, Stockade.. I'm intrigued now... :)

[S!gma]

Bro everything about TFs dose not have to come from these sights.
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JUNGLE BONECRUSHER

Barely functional after his battle with Optimus Prime, Bonecrusher crawled away from the scene of his defeat and hid. Effecting what few repairs he could on his own, he also removed his locator beacon and communications hardware, cutting himself off entirely from the other surviving Decepticons.


Fleeing south, farther and farther, he eventually found himself deep in the jungles of South America (http://tformers.com/transformers-movie-deluxe-jungle/8713/news.html#). Hidden in the most remote area on Earth, he is free to indulge his rage on the rainforest without interruption.
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http://tformers.net/g/generated/8713/005__scaled_500.jpg (http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&album=8713&dispsize=800&start=0)

Those have always differed from the plot of the incarnation of Transformers at the time. Tech specs like that are needed to write in re-paints and toys that have never been featured before. Theyre taken as gospel if there is no other info like in Universe, Robot masters, Alternators, BinalTech or Masterpieces but they provide little help towards real plot.


Let him sleep, the dude is dead
...IMO

[raddimus]

You are right about Bonecrusher. If they really wanted to bring him back they could. Frenzy lost his head and still lived so why not Bonecrusher? If the Constucticons are indeed in the next movie he should be there as well. And no one knows for sure that Magatron is dead. Yes the Allspark seemed to shut him down but there is no clearification that it destroied him. He may just be in a shutdown mode. The power from the cube may just make him more powerful.
Um I think the energon blade did the trick.:D

[Smokescreen_5]

Um I think the energon blade did the trick.:D

I was looking at this link here for Jungle Bonecrusher (http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-Movie-2007-Jungle-Bonecrusher_W0QQitemZ250203593437QQihZ015QQcategor yZ155343QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) and noticed the seller had other new Transformers he had found as well.. Jolt which looks kind of like Swindle. Incinerator, which looks kind of cool with a picture of a First Strike Optimus Prime on the back, then theres Big Daddy, Grindcore, and Divebomb. I like the sounds of Big Daddy and Jolt.. lol..

[Xaniss]

I have a theory (and really this is me trying to explain away a badly written script) that Frenzy's regenerative attributes were more advanced than any other Transformer in the movie. this would explain how he survived as a head, how he changed form with ease (?Bumblebee?) and how his parts were the most manipulatable of the cast of bots. (how he transformed into a cell phone.)

if this theory was true, it would allow frenzy to survive a two thirds of his head being cut off. However if his spark was located in his head, the trauma of his final injury could have been enough to kill him.


I hate bad story telling. you would not believe the flack I receive from my peers for liking this movie.... I get more flack from my teachers.

Okay I don't know how authentic this is but this comes from the Transformers 'The Movie Guide' by Simon Furman - it's a hard covered book with a lenticular cover of Optimus going to the Autobot symbol. Frenzy is in this book and in a little fact box about him it says and I quote, 'A non-centralized logic net means that various bit of Frenzy can funtion independently, even if disconnected from the main torso strut.' End quote...

So I think that is why Frenzy was able to still function when he was just a head after the Bumblebee/Barricade fight. I do love this book, it's so fun! Simon has many a bit of info on most of the bots - stuff I didn't even pick up watching the movie, such as Bumblebee's exo-armour is coated in solar receptors, Blackout can shut down all auditory senses to protect himself from sonic backwash (makes sense really) or Barricade harbouring resentment for Starscream talking the credit of his work when he breached the stronghold of Ky-Alexa... okay off topic here sorry!

[Smokescreen_5]

Okay I don't know how authentic this is but this comes from the Transformers 'The Movie Guide' by Simon Furman - it's a hard covered book with a lenticular cover of Optimus going to the Autobot symbol. Frenzy is in this book and in a little fact box about him it says and I quote, 'A non-centralized logic net means that various bit of Frenzy can funtion independently, even if disconnected from the main torso strut.' End quote...


The movie guide huh? I'll have to see if I can still find a copy and pick it up...

[Michael Do]

In my theory, IF SoundWave ever go to earth and restore Megatron back to life (taken from the leak script) then all the other decepticons should be revive too since they were dumped in the sea together with Megatron.

[Bumblebee1983]

The movie guide huh? I'll have to see if I can still find a copy and pick it up...

I got one! And the prequel comic.

I haven't had time to read 'em yet, but I will.

You can order the Furman book from Amazon.com if you can't find any in your local bookstore.

[Xaniss]

The movie guide huh? I'll have to see if I can still find a copy and pick it up...

I found my copy in Kmart for $25 back in October but I live in Australia so it might be easier to get your mitts on a copy - haven't even seen them stock it anymore, shops are so fickle with movie merchandise! :mad:


I got one! And the prequel comic.

I haven't had time to read 'em yet, but I will.

You can order the Furman book from Amazon.com if you can't find any in your local bookstore.

You haven't read the prequel yet! I am shocked! :eek:

It's a good read, but far too short! I love Don's work when Megs is landing in the Arctic, second chapter/comic if you have the individual ones. Look out for G1 characters too! Trailblazer was one I missed but Ironhide is really easy to spot! ;)

[StefsChemicalRomance]

Right! My turn to have my input, its a goodie, too ;)

Ok, First, answer yourself this. How did Megatron die? Raw Power to his 'spark'. (in his Chest)

Bonecrusher was like any normal Transformers, legs arms, average height, a chest! Where his 'spark' would be, right?

Well Frenzy, being built a little smaller, you could easily understand why his 'spark' would be in his head, as it is PROBABLY (So dont try prove me wrong, this is just a theory) the most thick, supported part in his body, thus him being able to survive with no body.
This would explain him being gone after taking a NinjaStarThing to the HEAD :cool:

So in conclusion, if you havn't worked it out yet. Bonecrusher, is dead. :D

[Smokescreen_5]

I got one! And the prequel comic.

I haven't had time to read 'em yet, but I will.

You can order the Furman book from Amazon.com if you can't find any in your local bookstore.

Yeah I found it at Barnes & Nobles (http://www.bn.com) for about $19. Thanks anyways.

I didn't pick up the prequel, but I have it on DVD.

[Smokescreen_5]

I got one! And the prequel comic.

I haven't had time to read 'em yet, but I will.

You can order the Furman book from Amazon.com if you can't find any in your local bookstore.

Hmm... I just found it at Barnes and Nobles for I believe its $18. Not much to the book and can't say its worth picking it up. I has lots of colorful pictures.. but $18 for a book that looks like a book that should be only $10? Ehhh.. I dunno...

[raddimus]

bone crusher is dead energon blade took care of that.

[supras989]

rofl at some people who actually think megatron is dead for good, they obviously havent watched any of the cartoon, and i believe the storywriters were trying to convey a hint across to the fans at the end. UM the decepticons were all dumped in the water in the first episodes of g1 after being defeated.

Ofcourse he isnt dead and bonecrusher could very well come back, they will construct their underwater base just like in G1 lol. Transformers 2 won't be the same without megatron everybody knows that.

damn i never knew i could sound so much like those crazy g1 fans. whether megatron comes back g1 style or a different style, mark my word him and some others will be back, besides what good is soundwave when megatron isnt around, there was always that strong loyal bond and the not so loyal bond between starscream and megatron.

[xXRavenXx]

Frenzy is just different I guess. After all that could mean that Jazz is alive, because after all he lost his top half from his bottom... so he could be walking around on his arms in a neighborhood near you! [/sarcasm

But, really i think Frenzy is just special. A lil mini bot. Bone Crusher got a sword through his face... that's major MAJOR ass kickage!

[megatron42]

and left a huge mark

[Shadow]

Frenzy is just different I guess. After all that could mean that Jazz is alive, because after all he lost his top half from his bottom... so he could be walking around on his arms in a neighborhood near you! [/sarcasm

But, really i think Frenzy is just special. A lil mini bot. Bone Crusher got a sword through his face... that's major MAJOR ass kickage!Frenzy is special. He has a non-centralized logic net which means any portion of his body that is severed from his core can function on its own. Hence this is why his head was able to operate on its own.

[StefsChemicalRomance]

Frenzy is special. He has a non-centralized logic net which means any portion of his body that is severed from his core can function on its own. Hence this is why his head was able to operate on its own.

Fine. Just CRAP all over my post a page back or so :(

LOL

[barricade505]

I think when Bonecrusher died by beheading.He didn't get up.Frenzy did.Who knows? Maybe this story is different than the cartoon enough,that it actually will have characters die off...(Megatron,Bonecrusher,Brawl,Blackout).Damn come ta think of it.Some Autobots need to be sent to tha scap-heap in 2.They lost Jazz.Boo hoo.You wanna talk about loss? Everyone is gone.No wonder Barricade ditched and bailed-outta there.I'm sure who ever is in it,it's gonna be good.:D........But please refrain from cheering when Decepticon revenge is made.HAHAHAHAHHAH*cough*choke...ahemn,just kidden'...go easy on us.It's only Barricade,Scorponok, and Starscream now.Without Megatrons leadership,our Manufacturers Warranty has ran out.AHAHAHAH

[megatron42]

not to worry cade once i'm revived you'll have mega cycles of warrantys
figures that cheapskate starscream would let them run out

[jetfirerules]

Jazz: You wanna piece of me?

no, i want.............2

[hollowed]

It's possible for Bonecrusher could be back. Simply being that if the constructicons are in it he would be needed. Assuming that his spark is located in his chest he might be able to since he was decapitated.

Also I think we all now Megatron will be back. He was the main foe of the Autobots. Unless that's the reason that it's rumored The Fallen is involved in this movie.

[EmmyDelight]

It's not about the thing that his head has been cut off,but Bonecrusher's head was penetrated by Prime's sword,so there is no way he could live again as long as his main processor is destroyed!
Ironhide said about Jazz that they couldn't save him and he suffered a much easy death with larger come-back possibilities than Bonecrusher with his impaled head!:deadhorse1:
Muu cow muu:deadhorse1::deadhorse1:
:lol

[Shadow]

It's not about the thing that his head has been cut off,but Bonecrusher's head was penetrated by Prime's sword,so there is no way he could live again as long as his main processor is destroyed!
Ironhide said about Jazz that they couldn't save him and he suffered a much easy death with larger come-back possibilities than Bonecrusher with his impaled head!:deadhorse1:
Muu cow muu:deadhorse1::deadhorse1:
:lol see now even with this probably being true there is a lot of what if behind all this. First off we all know in Hollywood anything or anyone can come back if the demand and money is there. LMAO!!! But as for Transformers... if and I do mean if they go by the fact that Transformers die when their sparks are terminated, we could very well see Bonecrusher come back. Why? Cause a Transformers Spark is in their chest not the head. As long as the spark is still operational then I dont see a problem with any Transformer not being able to come back. look at Frenzy. His head was taken off and he still lived. Anything can happen is all im saying.

[Trailbreaker]

And take a look in other Transformers series. Optimus Prime died and came back to life like a gazillion times. Bonecrusher is child's play for Hasbro.

[EmmyDelight]

see now even with this probably being true there is a lot of what if behind all this. First off we all know in Hollywood anything or anyone can come back if the demand and money is there. LMAO!!! But as for Transformers... if and I do mean if they go by the fact that Transformers die when their sparks are terminated, we could very well see Bonecrusher come back. Why? Cause a Transformers Spark is in their chest not the head. As long as the spark is still operational then I dont see a problem with any Transformer not being able to come back. look at Frenzy. His head was taken off and he still lived. Anything can happen is all im saying.


With the Hollywood thing you are right,but then,like you said,transformers have their spark inside their chest, so why Frenzy did not die?:wtf

[EmmyDelight]

And take a look in other Transformers series. Optimus Prime died and came back to life like a gazillion times. Bonecrusher is child's play for Hasbro.


Optimus came back to life a gazillion times because he was the main character in the Transformers universe.Taking Optimus Prime away it's like taking the sun away from our galaxy:(...not only that the story wouldn't survive like the mankind wouldn't survive without the sun,but the series then would be dry...no purpose...no reason to continue:confused:

[hollowed]

With the Hollywood thing you are right,but then,like you said,transformers have their spark inside their chest, so why Frenzy did not die?:wtf

possibility of spark being located elsewhere for such a small robot? Or perhaps the spark has to actually be misfunctioned. Basically the same thing happened with that happened with Bonecrusher. He lost his head. Honestly we can't answer the questions we can only wait and see what happens and not pick it apart.

[Shadow]

With the Hollywood thing you are right,but then,like you said,transformers have their spark inside their chest, so why Frenzy did not die?:wtf


possibility of spark being located elsewhere for such a small robot? Or perhaps the spark has to actually be misfunctioned. Basically the same thing happened with that happened with Bonecrusher. He lost his head. Honestly we can't answer the questions we can only wait and see what happens and not pick it apart. This is why Frenzy still lived after his head was taken off with the saw.......he has a non-centralized logic net, which means that if any portion of his body is severed from the main torso it will still function. This info comes right out of the movie book that has all their profiles in it. I found it at Boarders Books. Now I dont know if the bigger bots can do this but I think Frenzy is able to do this to help him survive better being he is a infiltrater type. Now my question on Frenzy would be... being we seen his head went on to reform into him what happend to the body? It states that the closer a bot is to the Allspark the faster they regenerate. So wouldnt Frenzy's body Regen as well but at a slower rate and being his core was still untouched his arms and legs should have still functiond so then there should have been two Frenzy typs running around right?

[alexsm]

Frenzy is dead, jazz is dead, megatron is dead, bonecrusher is dead, brawl is dead.

Rumble is here, the Fallen is here and.... well, some other.

[Shadow]

Frenzy is dead, jazz is dead, megatron is dead, bonecrusher is dead, brawl is dead.

Rumble is here, the Fallen is here and.... well, some other.Rumble maybe... i think that puppit we seen is Ravage being it look cat like. As for the Fallen... Thats not going to happen. Way to much history to work with for Bay to just jump right into the Fallen history.

[Swift]

wow. I wonder if they'll put him back in TF2? :P

[megatron42]

who knows anything is possiable

[DecepticonsRule]

Listen, here is why Frenzy can survive without his head, and Bonecrusher (or pretty much any other TF) can't.

Frenzy has his spark in his HEAD not his TORSO. In his torso is the mechanism that holds and fires those discs of his. There is no room for his spark down there, so it is in his head. When his disc sliced his head off, his spark went with it, so it killed him. To kill Frenzy, you would have to take off his head.
It is basically the same function as humans. Your heart and brain have to work together. If you were to loose your head, you would die. Same with TFs, they need their head to survive, to control their bodies. Frenzy (I assume) is almost unique in the aspect that he can survive just as a head.

And no, leave Bonecrusher dead. Bring in Demolisher or Sledgehammer to replace him as the bulldozer Constructicon.

[highdefw]

Did they say 20 bots all together or 20 NEW bots.... :confused:

[megatron42]

new

[Shadow]

Did they say 20 bots all together or 20 NEW bots.... :confused: see this is still up in the air. Its not a fact yet.


new sorry Megs but I dont think there is 20 new bots unless most are just no names that are there to get killed off right away for more of that galactic battle feel:D

[megatron42]

i think your right.. we'll have to see i guess