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shadowinvid
11-01-2009, 05:37 PM
The only thing that really annoyed me in TROTF is how easily Optimus Prime defeated the Fallen. I thing whether it be good or bad who prevails in the third film, the final fight scene needs to be longer, harder and more epic.

jamjam101
11-01-2009, 05:46 PM
i think it was due to the lack of time that Mike wasnt able to spend as much time as he wanted to, he stated so on the bluray comentary and that he was sorry to the fans. I guess its time to make up for it ;)

EpicBacons
11-01-2009, 05:56 PM
I liked the ending for ROTF, honestly I am tired of cliched drawn out fight scenes.

Morethanmeetstheeye
11-01-2009, 06:01 PM
I liked the ending for ROTF, honestly I am tired of cliched drawn out fight scenes.

I have to agree, Optimus just kicked ass and he just put it all out on the line against The Fallen/Megatron. I liked it, especially when Optimus shot Megatron in the face with Megatron's gun:D

But the "long" forest scene was just awesome :D

EpicBacons
11-01-2009, 08:12 PM
Yep, both of those scenes show what kind of emotional and charismatic leader that Optimus Prime truly is. To me, I really like both the forest battle and the final battle in equal value. Since you mention it, if a battle has to be drawn out long - I'd love for it to be more like the forest battle. :p

littleman794
11-01-2009, 11:59 PM
Ya same with devs...wayyy to easy

omegaweapon2
11-02-2009, 01:24 AM
It was a good comeback k.o rush for Optimus. I just laughed at Megs when he saw the fallen die. He was scared hiding in the pillars :D
How many did Ironhide shoot down anyway? it felt like he was the only autobot holding off the hordes of decepticons.

littleman794
11-02-2009, 01:53 AM
LOL megs look wen fallen was killed wus priceless!!!

IHeartBayhem
11-02-2009, 02:23 AM
I actually liked how fast the fight went. After that chaotic sequence of events in the battle leading up to Prime's resurrection, it felt as if Prime was like "Let me show you how it's done."

Bayhem
11-02-2009, 04:37 AM
I liked the ending for ROTF, honestly I am tired of cliched drawn out fight scenes.


Agreed.

Sometimes less is better.

Scorpio
11-02-2009, 11:15 AM
TF1 had a fairly good ending in that it felt like it lasted long enough but it didnt have enough robots.

TF ROTF had a lame ending as alot of the cool bots were either killed off or not included in the final battle as much as fans wanted.

For TF3 they need a fair amount of robots. Prime shouldnt be the only one to save the day. Have Bumblebee do something to save Sam and maybe damage Starscream or something while Prime battles Megatron.

Or make it a huge all out battle inside and around Unicron to give the fans the ultimate parting gift.:cool:

chops
11-06-2009, 08:06 PM
If they took some time away from Sam's parents and spent it on the ending we would have had a great ending. Instead, Devastator was killed by humans and Megatron and the Fallen were taken out at the same time by Optimus. uh ok...

Kimba
11-06-2009, 09:56 PM
If they took some time away from Sam's parents and spent it on the ending we would have had a great ending. Instead, Devastator was killed by humans and Megatron and the Fallen were taken out at the same time by Optimus. uh ok...

I thought the ending was great! :) I agree with EpicBacons and Bayhem; After so many clichéd battle scenes in movies, the endings start to become very expected - I like to see the unexpected :D

uraydo
11-06-2009, 11:18 PM
The only thing that really annoyed me in TROTF is how easily Optimus Prime defeated the Fallen. I thing whether it be good or bad who prevails in the third film, the final fight scene needs to be longer, harder and more epic.
See this movie is very deceptive because Optimus defeating the fallen is not the climatic act. the climatic act is same striking optimus with the matrix. everything after that, is causal effect. even if it was long, we wouldn't feel anymore attached to it. Sam is the only character that the movie set us up to care about. once his job is done, the movie is pretty much over. of course that makes the last fight the most action packed "slow curtain" I have ever seen.

uraydo
11-06-2009, 11:19 PM
I thought the ending was great! :) I agree with EpicBacons and Bayhem; After so many clichéd battle scenes in movies, the endings start to become very expected - I like to see the unexpected :D
and you liked this movie?

Swift
11-07-2009, 12:35 PM
Yep, both of those scenes show what kind of emotional and charismatic leader that Optimus Prime truly is. To me, I really like both the forest battle and the final battle in equal value. Since you mention it, if a battle has to be drawn out long - I'd love for it to be more like the forest battle. :p

Agreed ^^

Drake
11-07-2009, 01:22 PM
It wasn't cool seeing Optimus slapped around by Megs in TF1.

As for the last scene, I am sure it was completely and utterly intentional.

Devs being killed by humans? No, Devs was killed by a RAILGUN, which, in theory, would've probably done even more damage than the movie portrayed. Just because they are big robots doesn't make them immune to a freaking railgun shot to the back.

Chromia/Maybell
11-07-2009, 01:32 PM
I liked the ending, but it could have been better. I did like when Megs was shot with his own gun, though. And Optimus was all, like, "Give me your face!"(( And chops, the Quote is, "I'm never giving you this Allspark" not, "I'll never give you this Allspark" Just FYI. I've seen the movie more times in two years than most would see it in a lifetime. ;) ))

The forrest battle, however, was perfect. It was beautifully written and directed, Kudos to all who took part in it. Optimus' use of the blades was epic, and his deth brought out just the right emotions. It wasn't too sappy, but not too callous, either.
Sorry for the rant.

Chromia/Maybell~

uraydo
11-07-2009, 03:18 PM
I liked the ending, but it could have been better. I did like when Megs was shot with his own gun, though. And Optimus was all, like, "Give me your face!"(( And chops, the Quote is, "I'm never giving you this Allspark" not, "I'll never give you this Allspark" Just FYI. I've seen the movie more times in two years than most would see it in a lifetime. ;) ))

The forrest battle, however, was perfect. It was beautifully written and directed, Kudos to all who took part in it. Optimus' use of the blades was epic, and his deth brought out just the right emotions. It wasn't too sappy, but not too callous, either.
Sorry for the rant.

Chromia/Maybell~which brings up another good point. The second act climax ( or was it the first, I haven't seen the film since theaters) was more climatic than the last act. the forest scene absolutly made this film in my eyes, yet it happened less than halfway in the telling.

Kimba
11-07-2009, 06:51 PM
and you liked this movie?

Sorry, my last post probably didn’t convey the meaning I was trying to get across very well....Yes, I do like this movie...a lot :)

almostthethird15
11-10-2009, 05:56 PM
I liked the ending, but it could have been better. I did like when Megs was shot with his own gun, though. And Optimus was all, like, "Give me your face!"(( And chops, the Quote is, "I'm never giving you this Allspark" not, "I'll never give you this Allspark" Just FYI. I've seen the movie more times in two years than most would see it in a lifetime. ;) ))

The forrest battle, however, was perfect. It was beautifully written and directed, Kudos to all who took part in it. Optimus' use of the blades was epic, and his deth brought out just the right emotions. It wasn't too sappy, but not too callous, either.
Sorry for the rant.

Chromia/Maybell~

ahahahaha, optimus saying, give me your face! was an awsome line. im happy to see other people hearin him say that cuz for some reason none of my friends heard it except me.

as a matter of fact, optimus was mumblin alot of mean things in this movie. if you listened in the fight scene at the forest, he was mumblin all sorts of stuff. it was great!

the endin was fine. we didnt need a long optimus fight. it was meant to be quick and have optimus filled with rage and want revenge for himself. they had it comin. he wasnt messin around.

Chromia/Maybell
11-10-2009, 07:13 PM
ahahahaha, optimus saying, give me your face! was an awsome line. im happy to see other people hearin him say that cuz for some reason none of my friends heard it except me.

as a matter of fact, optimus was mumblin alot of mean things in this movie. if you listened in the fight scene at the forest, he was mumblin all sorts of stuff. it was great!

the endin was fine. we didnt need a long optimus fight. it was meant to be quick and have optimus filled with rage and want revenge for himself. they had it comin. he wasnt messin around.


Yeah, no one seems to listen to all of the great lines he has while beating the crap out of the Decepticons.~

Mech_1000
11-10-2009, 10:30 PM
I think the ending was good, it just seemed a little rushed. Maybe dividing some of the more action/suspense scenes with some side stuff like humans fighting decepticons, or other autobots giving out orders/attacking, adding a couple minutes to that spot would have been nice. Or extending the devastator thing to be more part of the movie than the last little end run.

Kimba
11-10-2009, 10:32 PM
as a matter of fact, optimus was mumblin alot of mean things in this movie. if you listened in the fight scene at the forest, he was mumblin all sorts of stuff. it was great!

“Weak…Puny waste of metal...Junkyard scrap!” I reckon it fuels his anger too, saying all that stuff, puts more ‘oomph’ in his punches, if you know what I mean – gotta love it! Especially when he says “Piece of Tin!” :D

uraydo
11-10-2009, 11:10 PM
“Weak…Puny waste of metal...Junkyard scrap!” I reckon it fuels his anger too, saying all that stuff, puts more ‘oomph’ in his punches, if you know what I mean – gotta love it! Especially when he says “Piece of Tin!” :D
Actually, come to think of it, they could have pushed this and actually added depth to the flat character of Prime. A leader that is so compassionate to an alien (us) race, yet so spiteful and hateful to a faction of his own. All this dispite the fact that he sees some of the same qualities in humans that he does in Deceptions. Now that would make for an interesting character.

chatterbox
11-11-2009, 05:27 AM
Sorry, my last post probably didn’t convey the meaning I was trying to get across very well....Yes, I do like this movie...a lot :)

think he was taking the piss:p unexpected? prime came back to life, good guys won etc etc

BIG Tee
11-12-2009, 12:39 PM
ahahahaha, optimus saying, give me your face! was an awsome line. im happy to see other people hearin him say that cuz for some reason none of my friends heard it except me.

as a matter of fact, optimus was mumblin alot of mean things in this movie. if you listened in the fight scene at the forest, he was mumblin all sorts of stuff. it was great!

the endin was fine. we didnt need a long optimus fight. it was meant to be quick and have optimus filled with rage and want revenge for himself. they had it comin. he wasnt messin around.

That was the old G1 Prime coming out. Prime always talked smack. For example in the second episode of Season 1 Prime said to Megatron,"You're old, Megatron. Yesterday's model—ready for the scrap heap!" and "Junk! That's what you are, junk!" So Prime was full of insults. I loved it when he called Grindor "Piece of tin" after ripping his head apart. This is nothing new for Prime. It's his personality that I hope we see more of in TF3.

Chromia/Maybell
11-13-2009, 06:14 PM
That was the old G1 Prime coming out. Prime always talked smack. For example in the second episode of Season 1 Prime said to Megatron,"You're old, Megatron. Yesterday's model—ready for the scrap heap!" and "Junk! That's what you are, junk!" So Prime was full of insults. I loved it when he called Grindor "Piece of tin" after ripping his head apart. This is nothing new for Prime. It's his personality that I hope we see more of in TF3.


Ah, yes... Good 'ol G1 Optimus~ But I don't think he was rude QUITE that frequently... XD Well, not to anyone but Megatron.... X3 I still loved it~

BIG Tee
11-15-2009, 04:43 PM
Ah, yes... Good 'ol G1 Optimus~ But I don't think he was rude QUITE that frequently... XD Well, not to anyone but Megatron.... X3 I still loved it~

If it was a Decepticon he was talking smack. "I'm sorry there is only three of you because clobbering less than four Decepticons at a time is boring" That's what he said before smashing Starscream, Thundercracker and, Skywarp.

Chromia/Maybell
11-15-2009, 07:18 PM
If it was a Decepticon he was talking smack. "I'm sorry there is only three of you because clobbering less than four Decepticons at a time is boring" That's what he said before smashing Starscream, Thundercracker and, Skywarp.

I don't remember that one... XD

EpicBacons
11-15-2009, 07:28 PM
LOL, G1 Optimus/ROTF Optimus has more of that "John Wayne/Cowboy-ish" swag' and personality in him, more than I thought. I knew he had a little, but more than I thought. :p

BIG Tee
11-17-2009, 06:48 PM
I don't remember that one... XD
A Prime problem: Episode 11: Season 1. It's the episode when Megatron cloned Prime.

Chromia/Maybell
11-23-2009, 02:39 PM
A Prime problem: Episode 11: Season 1. It's the episode when Megatron cloned Prime.

I've seen the episode, but only once. *Will watch again*

littleman794
11-23-2009, 02:47 PM
^i gotta see that!!!