View Full Version : The decepticons need to win this one
proson
11-01-2009, 03:23 PM
Seriously, are they gonna come back for the 3rd time and fucking lose AGAIN? they better be prepared this time and have a fucking good plan to take out the autobots, its gonna make them look like stupid retards if not.
If this movie happend in real life, we would all be dead ages ago and the planet would be ruled by Decepticons. so eh just make it happend ok?
fu2kimus_prime
11-01-2009, 03:40 PM
How do you give the movie a satisfactory conclusion if they win though?
Morethanmeetstheeye
11-01-2009, 03:47 PM
I hope they kill of some Autobots when they return for TF3. They won't win because Bay doesn't like cliffhangers and if this is his last TF movie, why would he leave the series with a cliffhanger?
Just don't kill off Sam or Mikaela :)
Trailbreaker
11-01-2009, 04:09 PM
If it's the last chapter of the Bay-verse then no, good guys need to win.
proson
11-01-2009, 04:34 PM
How do you give the movie a satisfactory conclusion if they win though?
Dude, that would be totally satisfactory if they win.
We cant have 3 movies of the autobots kicking the asses of the decepticons.
IF there is no way in hell they are gonna let the decepticons win atleast let them take out most of the autobots, im talking total annhilation here of the autobots almost :p bumblebee, ratchet and irhonhide would all have to die atleast. and the damn twins. and then just give optimus prime some super power to kill the bad guys in the end so they 'win'
I hope they kill of some Autobots when they return for TF3. They won't win because Bay doesn't like cliffhangers and if this is his last TF movie, why would he leave the series with a cliffhanger?
Just don't kill off Sam or Mikaela :)
Why would it be a cliffhanger if the bad guys win? seriously, everyone loves the evil guys just let them win and the autobots are all gone and ye decepticons take over the universe, it would be the best ending of a movie ever.
Trailbreaker
11-01-2009, 04:37 PM
Satisfactory only to die hard Decepticon fans. Would not bode well with the general audience.
Leshiy133
11-01-2009, 05:04 PM
Decepticons must not win. I want a happy end!
r-type
11-01-2009, 05:10 PM
Frankly, I don't think Bay would be so nihilistic with an ending. If it were going to happen (and if it turns out to be only 3 TF Films by Bay) I think it would have happened in ROTF. To some extent it did happen, as the Deceps. won a small (albeit temporary) victory in downing Prime.
Morethanmeetstheeye
11-01-2009, 06:05 PM
Why would it be a cliffhanger if the bad guys win? seriously, everyone loves the evil guys just let them win and the autobots are all gone and ye decepticons take over the universe, it would be the best ending of a movie ever.
It would be a cliffhanger because the audience would be left wondering what is going to happen to the heros (autobots). The earth would be in chaos, how wouldn't that be a cliffhanger?
taybrian1
11-01-2009, 06:15 PM
In my opinion, no one won that fight. The true evil got away. They succeed in keeping their agenda alive to build a stronger force. They are learning the weaknesses.
prowler66
11-01-2009, 07:00 PM
Although I am a die hard autobots fan, I do think the decepticons should win big, at least in the beginning. like killing Ironhide, Ratchet & the twins. After Something like that, it would be cool for prime ta go super badass, maybe even somehow get jazz back in the picture? (never gonna happen I know)
littleman794
11-01-2009, 11:54 PM
I absolutely agree proson, on 1 condition : this isn't the last movie
Seriously, are they gonna come back for the 3rd time and fucking lose AGAIN? they better be prepared this time and have a fucking good plan to take out the autobots, its gonna make them look like stupid retards if not.
If this movie happend in real life, we would all be dead ages ago and the planet would be ruled by Decepticons. so eh just make it happend ok?
Its about GOOD winning over EVIL. Throughout the History of the TF universe the Decepticons NEVER WIN. I can't think of any time when they ever won. Even in good ol G1, Megatron would have this evil plan to destroy the Autobots and by the end of the episode, he was running/flying off with his "Tail" tucked between his legs.
proson
11-02-2009, 04:31 PM
Its about GOOD winning over EVIL. Throughout the History of the TF universe the Decepticons NEVER WIN. I can't think of any time when they ever won. Even in good ol G1, Megatron would have this evil plan to destroy the Autobots and by the end of the episode, he was running/flying off with his "Tail" tucked between his legs.
ye well thats no fun, im tired of the good guys always winning :p
The decepticons are soo much cooler so they should win, they totally would if this happend irl anyways so why not? show people what would really happend if big fucking robots came to earth.
Trailbreaker
11-02-2009, 05:03 PM
That's your opinion. I think Autobots are the coolest.
Decepticons are gonna get their asses handed to them, that's how it was in the cartoons, that's how it was in the comics, and that's how it's gonna be in the movies! It's standard Hollywood rules, the plot needs a resolution, and the Decepticons winning is not that.
That's your opinion. I think Autobots are the coolest.
Decepticons are gonna get their asses handed to them, that's how it was in the cartoons, that's how it was in the comics, and that's how it's gonna be in the movies! It's standard Hollywood rules, the plot needs a resolution, and the Decepticons winning is not that.
Unless its done like in The Empire Strikes Back. The Empire Dominated the Rebelion in that movie but were ultimately defeated in Return of the Jedi (I don't know why I used this reference. I guess it's the first thing that came to mind).
Which at this point would mean a Forth TF movie.
Trailbreaker
11-02-2009, 05:49 PM
Unless its done like in The Empire Strikes Back. The Empire Dominated the Rebelion in that movie but were ultimately defeated in Return of the Jedi.
Which at this point would mean a Forth TF movie.
Exactly. But I have a feeling in my gut that it's not gonna be that way. Personally, I'm perfectly fine with a nice comfortable trilogy.
proson
11-02-2009, 05:49 PM
Unless its done like in The Empire Strikes Back. The Empire Dominated the Rebelion in that movie but were ultimately defeated in Return of the Jedi.
Which at this point would mean a Forth TF movie.
Why they didnt do that with this movie is beyond me, they knew they were gonna make a third one atleast when making this one so they should have let the decepticons pwn the autobots in the second movie, but lets hope they make a 4th one and even more so the bad guys can win once atleast :)
chops
11-02-2009, 07:55 PM
The decepticons should have won in the second movie setting it up for the third movie but the writers aren't that smart. nor is bay.
Trailbreaker
11-02-2009, 07:55 PM
The decepticons should have won in the second movie setting it up for the third movie but the writers aren't that smart. nor is bay.
Do you ever come onto these forums with something positive to say?
chops
11-02-2009, 08:15 PM
Do you ever come onto these forums with something positive to say?
Everyone has an opinion. Do you think if it's negative or if it doesn't match what you think I shouldn't be able to voice my opinion?
Trailbreaker
11-02-2009, 08:27 PM
Everyone has an opinion. Do you think if it's negative or if it doesn't match what you think I shouldn't be able to voice my opinion?
You may express negative opinions but insults cross the line, which you clearly did. That's a lack of respect in my opinion. Some people I might not like, but it doesn't mean I immediately don't respect them. I only show no respect for malicious people, and Bay is not malicious.
chops
11-02-2009, 08:42 PM
You may express negative opinions but insults cross the line, which you clearly did. That's a lack of respect in my opinion. Some people I might not like, but it doesn't mean I immediately don't respect them. I only show no respect for malicious people, and Bay is not malicious.
Clearly, I stated an opinion of mine even if you fail to understand that.
Mr.Gabba
11-02-2009, 08:52 PM
Unless its done like in The Empire Strikes Back. The Empire Dominated the Rebelion in that movie but were ultimately defeated in Return of the Jedi (I don't know why I used this reference. I guess it's the first thing that came to mind).
Which at this point would mean a Forth TF movie.
You typed my idea first! ;)
Maxima
11-03-2009, 03:38 AM
The Decepticons winning has not been something rather constant and concrete in any of the Multiverses. Megatron has been a solid staple in seeking what he wants and getting it. But whether successful or not, he doesn't bask in his glory for long due to Prime and the Autobots removing him from his pedistal.
I don't think I've known ANY Multiverse where Megatron is successful in all out conquest. Pity really. Megatron is THE ultimate bad guy. Seriously, when you think about it, he's the One.
Shocked the hell out of me that Megatron followed The Fallen and called im Master. In the 1986 cartoon movie and in Gen 1, Megatron belongs to no one, he's no one's slave, and no one is his Master. He makes his own destiny. All reasons cause of his past, his background of meager means, as a gladiator and nobody. Unlike in these films where he'rs a Lord High Protector, he's at the top!
Yeah, The Decepticons need to win.
They need to off some Autobots.. preferably Wheelie and those damned twins! Get the real twins back - Sideswipe AND Sunstreaker! They are more fun. ;) And of course, A constant that I always hear, especially from my nephew... Bring in GRIMLOCK and the Dinobots.
Reason why TF was a cartoon in the 80s... ahhh, the amount of awesome stories that were created and told, the characters ironed out (so to speak), got plenty of parts and again, had some decent stories or great stories if you were a kid! Hell, the Decepticons taking over NYC and attempting to convert it into New Cybertron... was awesome! And their plundering of every type of resource this world had to offer... Oh, one could go on and on.
What about those "hatchlings"? (come on... Hatchlings? Where did that come from? Suppose to be protoforms! What? Do they have an organic base to them? If so, kinda throws it off for a loop.)
Again, I'm with you... Megatron and the Decepticons need to win or something. I just hope that Megatron is not killed off in the next film. :( Or worse, turned into Galvatron, which is what everyone is thinking. GAH! I SO hope not.
~Lady B
fu2kimus_prime
11-03-2009, 02:21 PM
We have to ask ourselves, do the general audience want the bad guys to win?
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and wager that as cool as Megatron and company are to alot of movie goers. They ultimately want to see Prime and Bumblebee handing them there asses, when the smoke clears.
Ofcourse I agree with many that the Decepticons should make life very hard for everyone before they go down.
littleman794
11-03-2009, 02:40 PM
they better!! im sure the audience will love the cons winning in tf3 as long as there is a clear sign of a tf4 aswell
Crainy
11-03-2009, 03:11 PM
Maybe it could be handled like this:
Both factions take serious damage and in the end of the third movie, only very few transformers survive the battle between decepticons vs autobots in the whole universe, so the cybertorian race is unable to survive.But the war ended, in some way.
♥Sari_Sumdac♥
11-03-2009, 07:33 PM
No way man, thats never going to happen, autobots always win, ALWAYS:Dhttp://fc06.deviantart.com/fs17/f/2007/221/d/7/Autobots_Wallpaper__Defend_by_GacktJOBnoMiko.jpg
Trailbreaker
11-03-2009, 08:24 PM
^^ Now that's the spirit!
littleman794
11-03-2009, 10:43 PM
Wow... Bumblebee has a damn epic pose there
omegaweapon2
11-03-2009, 11:02 PM
I just noticed this but... Can't they make Optimus shoulders and arms little bigger? He looks skinny. He should be a big macho bot. Bee's pose reminds me of Wolerine for reason. it must be the color yellow :D
littleman794
11-03-2009, 11:19 PM
^well that's also tf1 art so it's changed in tf2, especially after his jetfire combo deal:D
omegaweapon2
11-04-2009, 04:46 AM
But he removed them. :D
littleman794
11-04-2009, 12:06 PM
^ he only took off the big shoulder cannons and the huge gun and stuff, he left on the legs and arms as an update for more armour...
Maxima
11-06-2009, 07:16 PM
Larger to be the same size as Megatron I suppose. Considering Megs is larger than Prime... or ... umm, was. But baffled me when I saw the stats on the Special Features of the bios for the TFs, where Prime was pretty much all 10 and Megatron was 10 in a couple of place. Ummm, huh? Megatron is faster, Megatron is bigger, has more firepower, etc... In the past and other multiverses, Prime and Megatron have been equals... symbolizing the stalemate between the two factions.
Would be nice to see the Decepticons obtain something for once... maybe Energon or something else. Just as long as Megatron is not killed off!
~Lady B
proson
11-09-2009, 03:46 AM
^ he only took off the big shoulder cannons and the huge gun and stuff, he left on the legs and arms as an update for more armour...
He drops it all eventually, when he is sending his message out to space in the very end im pretty sure he is just normal optimus prime. i might be wrong though, gonna check it out when i get home from work.
littleman794
11-09-2009, 01:12 PM
ya, i paid attention to him on the boat too...he is a little smaller, but you can definitely see that he kept a little...
proson
11-10-2009, 05:11 PM
ya, i paid attention to him on the boat too...he is a little smaller, but you can definitely see that he kept a little...
Well, i have it on my PC and was just watching the him on the boat now and paused it and he looks like normal Optimus prime too me. but i dunno
littleman794
11-10-2009, 05:15 PM
your probably right...but i think that he kept something inside...maybe he didn't...if he did it probably doesn't even matter......
anyways, the decepticons need to do some damage...
BIG Tee
11-15-2009, 04:53 PM
I agree. Bay is making so much money off TF that he will probably make 10 of them. Yes let the Decepticons win this one and leave a cliff hanger. Whenever the bad guy wins it leaves the audience in shock and looking more forward to the next one and guess what, TF4 may gross $1B in the first three months.
littleman794
11-15-2009, 07:53 PM
^that would be epic!
EpicBacons
11-15-2009, 08:04 PM
I agree. Bay is making so much money off TF that he will probably make 10 of them. Yes let the Decepticons win this one and leave a cliff hanger. Whenever the bad guy wins it leaves the audience in shock and looking more forward to the next one and guess what, TF4 may gross $1B in the first three months.
YES! I would love to see the Decepticons win this time around, and I love cliff hangers. At the end of the movie, Megatron/Galvatron (or what ever TRON it is) makes an epic victory speech with a diabolical evil laugh. :D
"is there anyone in the universe who dare challenge the MIGHT of MEGATRON?"
littleman794
11-15-2009, 08:27 PM
That would be awesome!!! Instead of prime sending a message it's megs!!:eek::eek:
proson
11-17-2009, 06:35 AM
YES! I would love to see the Decepticons win this time around, and I love cliff hangers. At the end of the movie, Megatron/Galvatron (or what ever TRON it is) makes an epic victory speech with a diabolical evil laugh. :D
"is there anyone in the universe who dare challenge the MIGHT of MEGATRON?"
Michael Bay needs to make this shit happend!
BIG Tee
11-26-2009, 02:44 PM
That would be awesome!!! Instead of prime sending a message it's megs!!:eek::eek:
What would Megatron say? I'm sure he would broadcast it worldwide. I imagine it would involve sapping the world of it's energy and, making humans his slaves until he no longer needs them. Upon hearing the message worldwide panic would ensue.
littleman794
11-26-2009, 02:48 PM
"All Decepticons, we have won the war. For eternity we have been defeated, but thanks to the stupidity of those worthless humans, we have won. I, am Megatron, and I send this message to any decepticons being awesome among the planets. I am here. I am winning."
Swift
11-26-2009, 03:14 PM
Every time, Proson, every time. Keep dreaming. :rolleyes: