Transformers rise of galvatron

[BAYliner]

since Megs has 99% of the cube in him..why not have him be the story, afterall cowards do ..survive..and..MB could show a little bit of Unicron..

[littleman794]

No...imo I think they should just keep megs...besides it would confuse anyone who wasn't fans like us...

[EpicBacons]

I agree with you all the way. As a matter of fact, I'd like Galvatron to be the insane G1 Galvatron - I think it would add character. Although I'd perfer TF3 be about both Unicron, Galvatron and his Decepticons - but I wouldn't mind if Galvatron was the main focus of the next movie, especially an insane one (always punching other Decepticons, always talking about what is his destiny is, etc.)

Galvatron: "We will attack other planets! We will suck them dry! We will build a planet 100 times more powerful than Cybertron and I WILL RULE THE GALAXY!!!"

Blitzwing: "Who will rule the galaxy?"

Galvatron: "ME! It is my DESTINY!!!"

[EpicBacons]

No...imo I think they should just keep megs...besides it would confuse anyone who wasn't fans like us...

Sorry for double post, but I want to say this - in TF2 it was awfully confusing with the new characters, and many said they didn't know which was which (besides Megatron, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee).

I think if they show Megatron becoming Galvatron, and give a proper introduction - I don't think people will get confused. Besides, Megatron TF1 and TF2 seemed like the generic evil bad guy "BLARGHHHH DIE HUMANZ!!!!" Not the guy that dreams about conquering the universe, and always talks that he hates the Autobots. Unlike Optimus Prime, who is such an epic character.

[littleman794]

LOL, u make some good points, I give u that

[the_almighty_moo]

they could have galvatron comming in and killing megatron for doing a piss poor job for 2 movies, replacing him as leader of the decepticons.

:D

[littleman794]

^Hahahahahaha..you do know thats impossible i hope...i really hope:D

[Battlebot]

I'm not saying I wouldn't want Galvatron in the movie. But I am saying I wouln't want him to be a recycled Megatron!! I like the idea of Galv's being a seperate being from Megs. I think that would work much better the Megs dying again and being reborn with a new name. I thought that was dumb.

[littleman794]

i think it would be just redundant....lets kill him again!! AND THEN BRING HIM BACK AGAIN!!!

no, thats just insane...at that point, no matter how cool galvatron would be, it would just boring

and if you had them both at the same time...that would just murder the fans

[EpicBacons]

This time Megatron is alive but sustained heavy injuries, its kind of the same character in a way - just reformatted, stronger, and a different personality. I think he should keep the signature "purple" look that G1 had, plus the signature 'crown' silohuette (kind of like how Optimus kept his silohuette, 'windshield' chest and the basic colors, etc) and the large Decepticon symbol in the middle of his chest. He's more cunning, driven and more insane than Megatron was.

[BAYliner]

hmm..according to this video megs umm was ALIVE when he was turned into galv. and...unicron did it...and thats why i posted my idea..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQXTLM_caXg

[littleman794]

Ok I see...cool idea....but I think it would still confuse ppl

[uraydo]

No...imo I think they should just keep megs...besides it would confuse anyone who wasn't fans like us...
like "Grindor" who I still refer to as Blackout.

[Michael Do]

well they didn't named him Grindor in the movie. Only the toy.

[littleman794]

In the movie they didn't name him anything... If it were blackout they would have so it's safe to assume it's grindor

[EpicBacons]

The constructicons were awfully confusing as well, doubles and triples of them. I heard even people said they couldn't tell an Autobot and a Decepticon apart from each other (hence Optimus Prime, Bumble bee, Megatron, Starscream, and everyone I know who calls Jetfire 'that old robot with the beard').

[Drake]

Nah. Just the actual transforming Constructicons and the components that made Devastator.

A short narrative by Optimus describing them would've been cool, but he was dead for most of the movie.

[littleman794]

^LOL it took me to read that to realize that!! Wow..most of the movie was just "let's explore Egypt"

[the_almighty_moo]

well tf2 suffered frim writers strike. maybe they got the original g1 writers to do the script for rotf as that was allways badly written :P

[omegaweapon2]

Just an opininion really. Why not make the third movie more decepticon based? They need a comeback and a Galvatron arc would be a great build up. Just don't add too many characters that happens to be "there" and it will be confusing. Ir should also put how the earth and autobots got friendly with each other and autobots has to have a base since the government always loves to watch over us. And who is exactly winning in cybertron?

Now I am hoping for Unicron in a finale because when an enemy is as big as a planet, you got to watch how the other side reacts.:p

[littleman794]

yes, they should get a little more into the thoughts of the decepticons, enhance their personalities...we know what ironhide and sideswipe and bb and op are all like, we would know how to act around each of them...but the only decepticons we would know what to do would be starscream (we would laugh at him) and megatron (we would cower in fear)...but no one else! i want to get a little more into the decepticons heads

[fu2kimus_prime]

I'm all for adding Galvatron. However this time I'd like him to be a seperate unique character, not Megatron in a new body.

[Drake]

But Galvatron IS Megatron.

[Trailbreaker]

But Galvatron IS Megatron.
Unless you follow the G1 Marvel Comics.

Still, I don't even wanna hear Galvy's name in the movie.

[EpicBacons]

But Galvatron IS Megatron.

Yep, it wouldn't make much sense to have to very different 'trons' characters. Albeit Megatron and Galvatron are the same character in spark, but Galvatron is more powerful and insane, like foaming at the mouth insanity.


Unless you follow the G1 Marvel Comics.

And TF: Armada, TF: Energon and TF: Cybertron, etc. Most Galvatron's have him as a reincarnation of the Decepticon leader, Megatron.

[fu2kimus_prime]

Yeah guys, ofcourse I know Megatron becomes Galvatron in most of the series he appears in.

That's my point though, I've seen it so many times. I'd prefer not to retread that story again in live action. Especially as movie Megatron is one of my favourite versions of the character don't want to sacrifice him.

The recent IDW comics have done a good job of establishing Galvatron as a character seperate from Megatron, so it can be executed pretty well.

[EpicBacons]

I think of all the versions of Megatron, this seems the weakest of them all and the most bland of characters. He fears the Fallen, all other Megatron's would've said "I belong to nobody!" "I will die with the satisfaction that there will be two more Autobots to mourn muhahaha!"

Sure he seems scary, but it seems the writers made it the only redeeming quality, honestly. He growls too, now thats not necessary IMO. In TDK, which would be better? A Joker thats scary or one that can act as the part like Nicholson? That's why I hope for Galvatron, he's a great character. I liked Unicron alot as a character, but I loved Galvatron - he had great one liners too IMHO.

Maybe its because Megatron didn't really have much of a role these two movies, and didn't interact enough with fellow Decepticons and enemy Autobots enough. But I'm trying to see this in a subjective way. :)

[fu2kimus_prime]

I think of all the versions of Megatron, this seems the weakest of them all and the most bland of characters. He fears the Fallen, all other Megatron's would've said "I belong to nobody!" "I will die with the satisfaction that there will be two more Autobots to mourn muhahaha!"

Sure he seems scary, but it seems the writers made it the only redeeming quality, honestly. He growls too, now thats not necessary IMO. In TDK, which would be better? A Joker thats scary or one that can act as the part like Nicholson? That's why I hope for Galvatron, he's a great character. I liked Unicron alot as a character, but I loved Galvatron - he had great one liners too IMHO.

Maybe its because Megatron didn't really have much of a role these two movies, and didn't interact enough with fellow Decepticons and enemy Autobots enough. But I'm trying to see this in a subjective way. :)

Perhaps I am over rating movie Megatron somewhat. He's not got much depth, however I think I like that he's a force of nature. Though I do share your hope that we get to see him interact more with his fellow Decepticons in future movies. Especially now that he's fully incharge.

I also probably over rate him because of the fact over the years we've had alot of really terribly written Megatrons who weren't even scary they were just stark raving mad (and yes I include G1 Megs in that list)

Out of all the characters, I actually think he has the most potential for movie three. If Bay, and Kruger want to go down that route.

[Trailbreaker]

They should not use Galvatron for the general audience's sake. Seriously, how many people out there have heard of the guy? A hell of a lot less than people who know who Megatron is! Megatron is an iconic character in the Transformers franchise, just his very name is iconic. It's a scary and badass name, way more badass than Galvatron.

Oh, and the Unicron Trilogy interpretations of Galvatron only served for the purpose of selling more toys. All Megatron did was "power up," change into a different color, and declare himself as Galvatron.

As for Megatron in the movie, what we saw was the evolution of a villain. He starts off as an apprentice, a pawn of this old dark lord. Now that the Fallen is dead, the student is now the master, and must take full control and responsibility of the Decepticon cause, and showing absolutely no mercy. He'll probably realize how much of a burden it was to be the errand boy of a dark lord and take pride in being the absolute supreme leader. The result of this would be a no nonsense, vicious, powerful, and merciless Decepticon leader, maybe even more deadly than the Fallen himself.

And he can do all of this without changing his name into Galvatron.

[uraydo]

In the movie they didn't name him anything... If it were blackout they would have so it's safe to assume it's grindor
no, it's safe to assume that no one in this production knew a damn thing about continuity, or had any ambition to make this a well thought out and coherent film.

[littleman794]

No, we don't assume that, we know that;)

[EpicBacons]

Perhaps I am over rating movie Megatron somewhat. He's not got much depth, however I think I like that he's a force of nature. Though I do share your hope that we get to see him interact more with his fellow Decepticons in future movies. Especially now that he's fully incharge.

No not at all, to be fair... Hugo Weaving Megatron does have alot of potential to be a real solid and likeable character, if he is given more screen time to communicate more and show us viewers some one-liners. To be honest here, I am affected by Frank Welker Galvatron nostalgia. :lol


They should not use Galvatron for the general audience's sake. Seriously, how many people out there have heard of the guy?

TBH, these movies haven't been exactly been the most non-confusing of movies. Besides, if they show him becoming Galvatron and give him a really good introduction, then there is no reason why the audience would be confused. On top of all those things, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman wanted to eventually put Galvatron in future Transformers movies but they are no longer in it. Also, lets say Optimus Prime gets a whole new body, new name and they call him Star Convoy... that in IMO would be more confusing.



A hell of a lot less than people who know who Megatron is! Megatron is an iconic character in the Transformers franchise, just his very name is iconic. It's a scary and badass name, way more badass than Galvatron.

Sure alot of people that were kids in the modern age know who Megatron is, especially Beast Wars. Other than that, nobody knows who Megatron is - unless they had kids that they bought toys for, or whatever.

Megatron sounds awesome, agreed. Although when I think Galvatron, I think of a demigod... lol dunno why. I think it sounds intimidating and powerful.




Oh, and the Unicron Trilogy interpretations of Galvatron only served for the purpose of selling more toys. All Megatron did was "power up," change into a different color, and declare himself as Galvatron.

Think of it as a Super Saiyan'ed Megatron.



As for Megatron in the movie, what we saw was the evolution of a villain. He starts off as an apprentice, a pawn of this old dark lord. Now that the Fallen is dead, the student is now the master, and must take full control and responsibility of the Decepticon cause, and showing absolutely no mercy. He'll probably realize how much of a burden it was to be the errand boy of a dark lord and take pride in being the absolute supreme leader. The result of this would be a no nonsense, vicious, powerful, and merciless Decepticon leader, maybe even more deadly than the Fallen himself.

And he can do all of this without changing his name into Galvatron.

However we don't have any proof from what we've seen (TF1 and TF2), unless he gets significant screen time... Megatron sees his faults, that the Fallen had a power over him (a dark power), and now it is unleased uppon the universe! With an evil laugh! I hope to see an evil laugh! (I really believe Hugo Weaving can make a really awesome evil laugh, I've seen in movies where he had a sinister maniac laugh)

On the flip side though:

In TF1 he seemed like a metalical gigantic beast that growls "MEGA..... TROORRAAAAWWWRRRRRR"

In TF2 he seemed more like the real Megatron who is a big fat coward and uses his his minions to even the odds that were against him, but he seemed weak when the Fallen (which is your point that I'll get to below) seem like this student of evil, not the guy who always was the face of the Decepticons and dreamed about what ultimately belonged to him... conquering the universe, this version of Megatron doesn't really speak about what he believes his purpose is. I'll admit I suffer from G1 Frank Welker Galvatron nostalgia.

My feeling is that with Galvatron (if they deside to go with a different voice actor who can fit like a glove with Lord Galvatron and show the insanity that Galvatron can bring to the Decepticon leadership) they can bring the true character, a character that is insane, hungry for vengence, driven by dreams that would kill others that attempts to conceive his dreams of his destiny for Decepticon domination! Decepticons forever! :p

[omegaweapon2]

From the new animeted series Megatron is much more bad ass and they should make it appear in the movie like the decepticons are really a fearsome race. Not to be hunted down like animals, it should be the other way around. Isn't that why the autobots are scattered and why Prime called them to regroup on earth. The decepticons should have the advantage in numbers and force and the autobots will have to win through it with sheer faith and will power. Only Sam does that in the movie.

[boudie13]

Something needs to be done with the development of Starscream. He was cowardly in TF2 and I wasn't that impressed with his role. The whole Megatron vs. Starscream bickering in g1 is what I remember dearly from the series. When they had Megatron revived in TF2, I was expecting Starscream to have done more in Megatron's absence, afterall Megatron was gone for two years. When Megatron arrived at the Nemesis I was hoping for more of a "What the hell have you done Starscream?" instead of the "Starscream I'm home" dialogue that was there. There could have been much better development in that relationship that wasn't there. I don't think bringing Galvatron in is the way to go because at that point we may not have seen enough of the power struggle that is the relationship between Megatron and Starscream. If Mr. Bay wants to get things emotional, he needs to develop the power struggle here, and he needs to do something with the Autobots. Galvatron isn't the solution to making things more emotional.

[Drake]

Well we could have Starscream kill Megs, which is what he probably wants to do anyway, and instead of the old logic that Shockwave was in charge of forces on Cybertron, it was Galvatron. That way, Galvatron AND Shockwave, his lieutenant, can both come to Earth, to first handle Starscream, and then finish off a problem they see as having gone on for too long.

Sound like a decent fix?

[littleman794]

yusss!! then i get to see screamer win for a bit!!

[Drake]

And as a neat G1 homage, you could have this scene take place...

Starscream; Galvatron?! Why have you come here?

Galvatron: Here's a hint!

*Galvatron transforms and vaporizes Starscream*

This would be cool too, because it would give a demonstration of how powerful Galvatron is compared to the other bots.

[littleman794]

uuhh..no that ending is waaay to fast...he has to epically kill him, long and drawn out:D

make his traitor suffer, right?

[Drake]

I've never seen Galvatron as a sadist. He has always been down to business.

[littleman794]

hmmm...but twisted...:D it would be boring for him to just walk up to starscream and be like bam! dead! walk away! it was to be bam! hit! smack! stab! why! why you betray me! whack! kabloooeeey!!!!!!

[Drake]

Just see what Galvatron did to him in the original movie. If done like that with today's effects...it would be beautiful!

[littleman794]

ya...but still...i don't want to see screams go out without a leeetle bit of a fight

[omegaweapon2]

Star scream is going to backstab megs again if he wants to beat megs.

[CesarCardoso]

I hope this doesn't sound too corny. what if the fallen transfered his conscience into megatron before being killed and begins to slowly take possession of Megs as a split personallity? This could justify megatron going insane and ultimatley giving birth to a new character, Galvatron.

[Drake]

I hope this doesn't sound too corny. what if the fallen transfered his conscience into megatron before being killed and begins to slowly take possession of Megs as a split personallity? This could justify megatron going insane and ultimatley giving birth to a new character, Galvatron.

That could work. It may take some work to get people to buy the possession bit, but if they can do an Autobot heaven, this shouldn't be too farfetched.

[chops]

since you posted a title i thought i would tell you the name of the third movie:

The Allspark Experiment.

[littleman794]

Hahaha, nice:D

[Kimba]

And as a neat G1 homage, you could have this scene take place...

Starscream; Galvatron?! Why have you come here?

Galvatron: Here's a hint!

*Galvatron transforms and vaporizes Starscream*

This would be cool too, because it would give a demonstration of how powerful Galvatron is compared to the other bots.

That would be an awesome G1 homage! :D

[chatterbox]

no more G1 homoges!!! movieverse is different :deadhorse1:

[megatron42]

here we go again with rise in the title.. we don't need that as for galvatron
why should he be in the movie

[Drake]

no more G1 homoges!!! movieverse is different :deadhorse1:


I know that, which is why Galvatron would be a different character, and Shockwave wouldn't be the commander there. So far, every movie has had a G1 homage in it, so I was saying that this would be a cool one. Galvatron doesn't have to be purple and voiced by Leonard Nimoy. I just think the "Here's a hint!" line could be in there, like the "One shall stand, one shall fall" line from the first one.

[Drake]

here we go again with rise in the title.. we don't need that as for galvatron
why should he be in the movie

Because some people are getting sick of Megs, I'd imagine.

[megatron42]

it's been posted that megatron is galvatron in the movie is the writers didn't want to
confuse the audience.. which makes sence to me

[EpicBacons]

Orci and Kurtzman are not writing it anymore... I'd think they would add some more writers to help Kruger also. Like I said, if they give Galvatron a really good introduction... it won't confuse anybody.

G1 created this whole phenomenon of Transformers lore, so it is understandable that it deserves the homage, and rightfull so in my opinion. Whether its continuity or not, I think. There is alot of really awesome characters, you obvious you can't put em' all in - but some I'd like to see make an impact in the movies at some point.

[Drake]

it's been posted that megatron is galvatron in the movie is the writers didn't want to
confuse the audience.. which makes sence to me


Right. Like we weren't confused enough when Jetfire blew open the cargo dors and suddenly they were in AZ. Or like how everyone was doing their own mini math when they screwed up the number of robots coming back up after Megs was resurrected.

Or maybe how the sun was still going down in China, and it was supposedly 10pm in the evening?

And if you don't want to confuse the G1'ers, if you are going to make Devastator and the Contructicons different bots entirely, at least make an effort to explain it.

So yeah... they could probably start the third movie with no Megs and just Galvatron, and we'd be no more or less confused than we were when we watched ROTF.

[Galvatron007]

II like the idea of Megs having a split personality, insane and calling himself Megs and Galvs at different times... maybe the upgrade to become more powerful did a number on him and his sanity is compramised to gain his incredible new strength... also if he is supposingly galvs in tf2, then movie galvs is piss weak... smacked down by prime and weak compared to fallen... na;)

[BAYliner]

i think its down right funny the way all of you carry on about the movie, thank goodness NONE of you are making any of the choices that go into this movie. MB will do what he wants, it will be great and you guys, myself included, will go watch this when it comes out. i just posted the title to see the response it would get.. i dont spend hours upon hours on this forum. unlike some of you. it can be fun knowing before the public i agree. but give MB a break. who cares what, who is in the movie. as long as it has great special effects like the last one. and for those ones and the critics who said there wasnt a plot or it had holes..you wouldnt know a great one if it hit you in the face. the only thing i hope that doesnt make it in.. is the useless curse words and sexual innuendo. a movie can be great w/out the use of it.

[Drake]

i think its down right funny the way all of you carry on about the movie, thank goodness NONE of you are making any of the choices that go into this movie. MB will do what he wants, it will be great and you guys, myself included, will go watch this when it comes out. i just posted the title to see the response it would get.. i dont spend hours upon hours on this forum. unlike some of you. it can be fun knowing before the public i agree. but give MB a break. who cares what, who is in the movie. as long as it has great special effects like the last one. and for those ones and the critics who said there wasnt a plot or it had holes..you wouldnt know a great one if it hit you in the face. the only thing i hope that doesnt make it in.. is the useless curse words and sexual innuendo. a movie can be great w/out the use of it.

It had a lot of plot holes, and the writing seemed VERY sloppy, but I attribute that to the writers' strike. Sorry, but ROTF wasn't nearly as good as TF1.

[omegaweapon2]

As long as the presentation of how the idea of Megs tunred into Galvatron is good it will be great. If they just added him without a good story to back him off he lose his entrance. Like what happened to spiderman 3. They added venom, sandman and a new goblin. Then it went kaput.

[shadowinvid]

It's time for Megatron to become Galvatron, the guy has had his arm ripped off, half his face blown away, and 98% of the Cube shoved in his chest, you can't just fix him with some new parts, like last time, I think he will use the remaining Energon on the crashed battle cruser with all the decpticon hatchlings on it to evole into Galvtron.

[megatron42]

and i'll voice galvatron