GRIMLOCK suggestion

[Kenzo]

so how about this http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/06/Dragon-Truck-01.jpg

I wonder how Michael Bay thinks about this monstrososty ;)

[MegaOctane]

looks a bit cool, but in the movie it might seem to be a bit over the top...
Should be a giant ass truck or something instead. I think I have seen a drawing of such a truck turning into a transformer....



He would look so gigantic and signalize brute force, just like Grimlock :)

[Alpina]

I suppose that when talking about the character Grimlock you're talkingabout an autobot with somewhat the same personality as the cartoon incarnation? This as his altmode? Fine by me, we must keep every animal, insectoid-characters as far away from movie 2 as possible. Scorponock did serve what purpose?

[Bumblebee1983]

I suppose that when talking about the character Grimlock you're talkingabout an autobot with somewhat the same personality as the cartoon incarnation? This as his altmode? Fine by me, we must keep every animal, insectoid-characters as far away from movie 2 as possible. Scorponock did serve what purpose?

Scorponok wasn't in the movie that long....maybe like ten minutes tops.

He's very stealthy, but not as deadly as say Starscream, devastator, and other decepticons.

[Sso02V]

looks a bit cool, but in the movie it might seem to be a bit over the top...
Should be a giant ass truck or something instead. I think I have seen a drawing of such a truck turning into a transformer....



He would look so gigantic and signalize brute force, just like Grimlock :)

Problem being, There's not much to that truck than the engine and wheels. Case in point (http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_on_5_23_2006_23_22_21/preview8.jpgece8b623-d7fe-4cd1-b5b3-1a101c3d56b2Large.jpg).

[moe]

looks a bit cool, but in the movie it might seem to be a bit over the top...
Should be a giant ass truck or something instead. I think I have seen a drawing of such a truck turning into a transformer....



He would look so gigantic and signalize brute force, just like Grimlock :)
This and one of those big drills (an earth..something)they use in deep underground tunneling would be fantastic in a TF movie. Constructicons unite!!!! or what ever. ; )

[Omega Prime]

Am I the only one here who doesn't see the need for Grimlock? Sure if you can come up with a believable backstory for fitting him in the sequal then sure bring him through but as of now I don't see the need for him making an appearance

[siwel]

He's not my first choice, but he is a fan favorite (for various reasons). I'm a fan of the comics version, but I'd rather see Jetfire, or Arcee, or Kup, someone who adds an interesting dynamic to the group (and some more variety to the vehicle forms)

[Omega Prime]

He's not my first choice, but he is a fan favorite (for various reasons). I'm a fan of the comics version, but I'd rather see Jetfire, or Arcee, or Kup, someone who adds an interesting dynamic to the group (and some more variety to the vehicle forms)

replace Kup with Prowl and Grimlock with Ultra Magnus then i'd agree :D

[barricade505]

Seeing something this big makes me nervous.i could imagine the scene where one of these things runs something over......ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!:eek: Or imagine when this transformer takes a dump on someone??AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!! transform and terrorize!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[MegaOctane]

i can see it in my head.. two or three deceptiocons chasing bumblebee, and they end up in a mine area or something. Bumblebee stops by this huge truck, and the decepticons transform and say: "no place to run now autobot"....
And then, the truck behind bumblebee starts to transform into this huge robot, it activates its weapon systems, locks on to the decepticons, and with the same deep base-filled voice as megatron says "Me....GRIMLOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
That would be so cool.

[Bumblebee1983]

i can see it in my head.. two or three deceptiocons chasing bumblebee, and they end up in a mine area or something. Bumblebee stops by this huge truck, and the decepticons transform and say: "no place to run now autobot"....
And then, the truck behind bumblebee starts to transform into this huge robot, it activates its weapon systems, locks on to the decepticons, and with the same deep base-filled voice as megatron says "Me....GRIMLOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
That would be so cool.

Who would voice grimlock....that is the question now.....:cool:

[moe]

Who would voice grimlock....that is the question now.....:cool:
Brad Garrett

[Shadow]

Ok.... Just an idea but in TF1 the All spark is said to be carbondated around 10,000 BC. What if when Prime sent the All Spark through the worm hole it went back in time and space to Earth before man and landed on Earth just before the Dinosaurs died out. As it was on earth it started to change Earth's life into new robotic life. Scanning some Dino's to turn into new life. And you got Dinobots. But then the meteor hit and killed everything and started the ice age.

[Shadow]

Ok.... Just an idea but in TF1 the All spark is said to be carbondated around 10,000 BC. What if when Prime sent the All Spark through the worm hole it went back in time and space to Earth before man and landed on Earth just before the Dinosaurs died out. As it was on earth it started to change Earth's life into new robotic life. Scanning some Dino's to turn into new life. And you got Dinobots. But then the meteor hit and killed everything and started the ice age.The All Spark as well as the Dinobots were frozen. Now the Dinobots still have yet to be found but when they are they are as stupid as what they were created from and the Autobots with Prime and the Matrix gives them a spark thous makeing them semi-smart with some speech and are inducted into the Autobots. At the end of the movie the Dinobots that do live like Grimlock take on new forms to better fit in.

[DaHaRaN]

I just see the same problem here with transformers as the x-men string of movies... too many characters with stories already developed and such little screen time. Gambit should have been in x-men so I say Grimlock one way or another should be in Transformers. I don't think that he needs to be a dinobot though.

[Sso02V]

Ok.... Just an idea but in TF1 the All spark is said to be carbondated around 10,000 BC. What if when Prime sent the All Spark through the worm hole it went back in time and space to Earth before man and landed on Earth just before the Dinosaurs died out. As it was on earth it started to change Earth's life into new robotic life. Scanning some Dino's to turn into new life. And you got Dinobots. But then the meteor hit and killed everything and started the ice age.

But the Ice age was over before the Allspark even landed. And Dinosaurs were extinct long before the Ice age.

[Bumblebee1983]

I just see the same problem here with transformers as the x-men string of movies... too many characters with stories already developed and such little screen time. Gambit should have been in x-men so I say Grimlock one way or another should be in Transformers. I don't think that he needs to be a dinobot though.

I so agree with you there. :D

Actually, on everything you said. :cool:

[raddimus]

I loved the first movie.I didnt even have a prob with megatron being a jet. I even let the reference to devastator being a tank slide; though me and everyone I know noticed this typo,and as a fan of the new movie as well as the cartoon and I did not appreciate a popular name being thrown on some random robot. if you cant do devastator you cant do devastator just use him as a reference. please do not turn my dinobots into gmc cars for the sake of making money or placing a popular name on just some character for rememberence sake. think of a new name that sounds good. If this isn't going to be the case void this message as will self destruct before the second movie is released.just remember this If you can't do/make/ or fit grimlock in you can't fit him in. but please dont add his name for the sake of adding his name.

[raddimus]

and as for grimlock not needing to be a dino bot would you of been happy let's say wolverine was called gambit professor x being called say colossus? I dont think anyone would of went to see it once word got out what had been done.

[raddimus]

hey bee would you of still seen x-men if say wolverine was called gambit for the sake of havving gambit in the film,or say proffessor x being called colossus? Ithink the film woulda flopped once word got out the names were all messed up. cause lets face it,though there are alot of people that see these movies but its the fans that get the hype/buzz on the net going out,not to mention convincing friends and family to see these movies. I know I personally saw trans alone,then took my girl, then took my mom,once she liked it and thought it would be ok for my nephew. I got my brother to view it which he then said yhea it was okay for my 3 yr old nephew to see. so its a fan like me,I personally spent 139 dollars alone taking my family to see the movie thats not counting my ps 3 game and dvd.

[OmarB]

Hmm, just decided to look in this thread because I think the Diobots are kinda lame. Anyways, that picture of the proposed Grimlock pretty much spits in the face of incognito, don't notice me, robots in disguise thing. That's just my opinion, but it's pretty hard to ignore that thing.

[Kenzo]

Hmm, just decided to look in this thread because I think the Diobots are kinda lame. Anyways, that picture of the proposed Grimlock pretty much spits in the face of incognito, don't notice me, robots in disguise thing. That's just my opinion, but it's pretty hard to ignore that thing.




Well Grimlock is somewhat like Megatron

That is he is too proud and considers beneth him that he should disquise

Besides that thing would be much better then a T Rex and he would have about the same size as Prime

[OmarB]

Well Grimlock is somewhat like Megatron
That is he is too proud and considers BENEATH him that he should DISGUISE
Besides that thing would be much better THAN a T Rex and he would have about the same size as Prime - Edited for spelling and grammar.

If you say so, I've never seen Grimlock as some sort of prideful robot, I was him pretty much as a big dumb lout who didn't know any better.

[Bumblebee1983]

hey bee would you of still seen x-men if say wolverine was called gambit for the sake of havving gambit in the film,or say proffessor x being called colossus? Ithink the film woulda flopped once word got out the names were all messed up. cause lets face it,though there are alot of people that see these movies but its the fans that get the hype/buzz on the net going out,not to mention convincing friends and family to see these movies. I know I personally saw trans alone,then took my girl, then took my mom,once she liked it and thought it would be ok for my nephew. I got my brother to view it which he then said yhea it was okay for my 3 yr old nephew to see. so its a fan like me,I personally spent 139 dollars alone taking my family to see the movie thats not counting my ps 3 game and dvd.

Probably not. And yes, it would have flopped had those changes take place.

But Singer probably has too much admiration for the original comics, and Stan Lee was on board, and he probably wouldn't have let that happen.

*shrugs*

Way off topic though....;)

Me and my fiance probably spent over $150 seeing Transformers....three times in regular theaters and once in IMAX, and then the merchandise (which I've mainly bought), the movies...the books...etc. etc. etc.

Thank God for IMAX.

As for Grimlock, I agree, he's just a dumb lout. :cool:

[Kenzo]

- Edited for spelling and grammar.

If you say so, I've never seen Grimlock as some sort of prideful robot, I was him pretty much as a big dumb lout who didn't know any better.


Well in episodes like "Call of the Primitives" Grimlock appeared to be very proud after saving the world.

Besides the comic book version was somewhat smarter and darker which would fit movie and that truck

Example when he interogates Runabout. Runabout is so convinced that Grimlock won't hurt him because he's an Autobot, right up until Grimlock rips his arm off. Much to everyone else's horror as he reply's "Me Dinobot, same rules not apply. Now tell me what I need to know or next piece I take.... Is head!"

[Silencer001]

Would Kup or Arcee or Ultra Magnus or Jetfire be any different than any of the current characters? You see, Transformers is an action movie. If there is one thing to be taken away from the first movie, its that the Decepticons are a lot stronger than the Autobots. Would any of those characters listed above be any stronger or more powerful than any of the current Autobots? Answer: No. Granted, they're interesting personalities, but, even on that note, they're all just sort of "cookie-cutter" good guys with slightly different personalities.

Grimlock, on the other hand. He's a completely different animal. Does anyone want the Grimlock from the cartoon? Hell no. But the Grimlock from the Dreamwave and other comic series? Hell yes. Grimlock isn't like everyone else. He's a brooding, moody, half good and half bad guy. No one knows what he's going to do or what he's capable of. On top of that, he does NOT get his ass handed to him by decepticons. He rivals Prime's strength and there in lies another possible plot device.

I love Prowl and Ultra and Arcee and Springer and Kup and all those characters too, but they're just too simple and way to similar to the current characters to bring in.

I want to see action on an unprecedented scale, not more of the same kind of Autobots all getting their asses handed to them.

Now, as for what Grimlock should be? I'm not sure, but here is an artist representation of Grimlock from "War Within" series on Cybertron, convert him from here: (He's a large tank type vehicle.)

http://dcjosh.deviantart.com/art/Dons-Grimlock-design-in-color-63848793

[siwel]

I loved the War Within series and I'm still holding out hope that IDW will pick it up at some point. I'd love to see that style of character design. And I'd love to see that interpretation of Grimlock's character.

As for characterization in an action film, you're right, variety doesn't count for much when pulse guns start to sizzle. But I think Arcee (a small bot) or Jetfire (an aerial fighter) would add new dimensions or possibilities or styles to the combat.

[Shadow]

But the Ice age was over before the Allspark even landed. And Dinosaurs were extinct long before the Ice age.
Ya but what if the carbondateing was wrong and it really was on Earth alot longer then is really known. I know the Dino's were extinct before the ice age but what im saying is WHAT IF.... this was the case... All Spark lands in the time of Dino's just before the meteor hits, starts to make new robo life based on Dino's, meteor hits, everything dies but the Dinobots that were created. Later the ice age comes and well the rest is history.

Also who said they have to look like robo dino's. UMMM Jurassic Park/Spielberg!!!! We all know he can do wounderful things with dino's. And he is also Co Producer on TF's

[siwel]

What if the Allspark WAS the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs??? Woooooooo! And Barricade assassinated JFK? And Starscream sank the Titanic? The possibilities are endless!!

[DaHaRaN]

HAHAHAHA Siwel.... your absolutely right about that. We are only limited by our imagination. I'd rather wait then speculate.

[raddimus]

I agree with swivel to an extent,but on that note I got tosay the concept of the dating being wrong and the dino bots being frozen is a good Idea, and as Ive said about the reference to devastator it applies to the dino bots as well. If they can't do the dino bots don't do them, just don't throw their names in their because they were popular characters. I think bay and his team beleive in doing things right; so please bay do the dino bots right are don't do them at all.

[siwel]

I'm cool with new and different as long as it's cool. The Dynobots or Dinobots can show up any number of ways, as long as it's cool. The misnamed tank guy was pretty cool. He took on Jazz, Ironhide, Rachet, and the US military singlehanded for a good spell and when the camera stopped shaking we got some cool scenes (Jazz yanking the cannon aside like Kup in the animated movie). So bring them on. Just don't leave them in the background picking their dino-noses.

[Shadow]

I'm cool with new and different as long as it's cool. The Dynobots or Dinobots can show up any number of ways, as long as it's cool. The misnamed tank guy was pretty cool. He took on Jazz, Ironhide, Rachet, and the US military singlehanded for a good spell and when the camera stopped shaking we got some cool scenes (Jazz yanking the cannon aside like Kup in the animated movie). So bring them on. Just don't leave them in the background picking their dino-noses. Ya if the Dinobots are in the movie I want to see them kick some ass!!!

[Bumblebee1983]

But...what would their alt modes be?

And please, no repeat of Jurassic Park.

I really don't care for the dinobots considering they seemed to be stupid in the cartoons...but if they can get off that little stigma, they may be okay. :cool:

[Shadow]

But...what would their alt modes be?

And please, no repeat of Jurassic Park.

I really don't care for the dinobots considering they seemed to be stupid in the cartoons...but if they can get off that little stigma, they may be okay. :cool:If they are in the movie they have to be Dino's or dont put them in at all. Thats why they are called Dinobots. I really hope that their names are not used just to be used. It will drive me batty if they use the names of the Dinobots and they are not Dino's. I mean if they are used and their names are used then please dont reffer to them in the movie as the Dinobots thats all.

[Bumblebee1983]

If they are in the movie they have to be Dino's or dont put them in at all. Thats why they are called Dinobots. I really hope that their names are not used just to be used. It will drive me batty if they use the names of the Dinobots and they are not Dino's. I mean if they are used and their names are used then please dont reffer to them in the movie as the Dinobots thats all.

Then they're not robots in disguise! LOL:D

[Shadow]

Then they're not robots in disguise! LOL:DOk if no Dino's I guess I could deal with somthing like the comics. In the comics the Dinobots were not from Earth and were a covert-ops team that was kind of a wild card. Of corse they did not like the Decepticons but in most cases did not get along with any other Autobot as well and they had Cybertronian Alt forms as well. Grimlock, Slag, Sludge, And Snarl were Cybertronian Tanks and Swoop was a Cybertronian bomber. Now if included in the next movie or the third they all dont have to be tanks but could be military ground units and Swoop could be a stealth bomber. just a thought:)

[MegaOctane]

.....and Swoop could be a stealth bomber. just a thought:)

I think that would work. after all the autobots need some kind of air support also. But maybe they'll put in Jetfire??

[Bumblebee1983]

Ok if no Dino's I guess I could deal with somthing like the comics. In the comics the Dinobots were not from Earth and were a covert-ops team that was kind of a wild card. Of corse they did not like the Decepticons but in most cases did not get along with any other Autobot as well and they had Cybertronian Alt forms as well. Grimlock, Slag, Sludge, And Snarl were Cybertronian Tanks and Swoop was a Cybertronian bomber. Now if included in the next movie or the third they all dont have to be tanks but could be military ground units and Swoop could be a stealth bomber. just a thought:)

Hmm.....okay, that could work. :)

[autobot2007]

dinobots are too childish, and I dont want to see a full unprecedant action movie? it just temporarily awes your senses and numbs them after and becomes boring. I want to see the spark of the autobots, their personality , their wisdom.

grimlock is a silly idea, it seems passable if he is a tank or hummer, personally Id prefer Blaster decked out in a red/yellow Hummer with a major sound system

[Shadow]

dinobots are too childish, and I dont want to see a full unprecedant action movie? it just temporarily awes your senses and numbs them after and becomes boring. I want to see the spark of the autobots, their personality , their wisdom.

grimlock is a silly idea, it seems passable if he is a tank or hummer, personally Id prefer Blaster decked out in a red/yellow Hummer with a major sound systemNo one said they have to be childish or dumb. Bay could give them personality.

[raddimus]

I'm lmao over the idea of the dinobots being childish,lol.,ok let's start with the concept of vehicles that change based on a popular cartoon in the eighties,man. the whole thing is somewhat childish but at least I can admit it; and still say I like it as it was an extremely creative concept. I don't think the dinobots would be any sillier than lets say a truck that turns into a gint robot that likes to protect humans along with a human buddy that owns his friend called bumblebee.I think these movies are great and if bay wants to make dinobots even with their mental deficiencies I say great all I ask is don't give them alt modes and don't make them veihcles, make them what they are and were made to be;DINOBOTS! If bay can't do this or think he could pull it off,he shouldn't do them at all. Thats my opinion.

[Shadow]

I'm lmao over the idea of the dinobots being childish,lol.,ok let's start with the concept of vehicles that change based on a popular cartoon in the eighties,man. the whole thing is somewhat childish but at least I can admit it; and still say I like it as it was an extremely creative concept. I don't think the dinobots would be any sillier than lets say a truck that turns into a gint robot that likes to protect humans along with a human buddy that owns his friend called bumblebee.I think these movies are great and if bay wants to make dinobots even with their mental deficiencies I say great all I ask is don't give them alt modes and don't make them veihcles, make them what they are and were made to be;DINOBOTS! If bay can't do this or think he could pull it off,he shouldn't do them at all. Thats my opinion.Im soooo with you on that. Dinobots just have to be Dinobots!!

[raddimus]

finally someone agrees with me. thanks shadow

[Shadow]

finally someone agrees with me. thanks shadowNo problem! Iv been saying that from the start.:D

[raddimus]

Hey how did the idea of dinobots being gm cars and trucks,even get started? I think that is kinda silly concept.

[Double]

Dinobots would make NO sense in the movie. In the Bay version they transform to "hide in plain sight". What would be the point of a robot transforming into a Dinosaur? Not to hide, that's for sure.

In the cartoon they transfrom to sell toys. So changing into a Dinosaur ok.

[raddimus]

well first off I was thinking about this in another post about weather optimus trailer should make an appearence.

[raddimus]

I came to the conclusion If the trailer was to appear it would have to be devolped by the autobots or human engineers or both; As the allspark creates the ability these robots posess. Secondly the dinobots in the cartoon were bones...I need to watch the episode again,but I thought there were dinosaurs discovered by spike and his dad. The autobots ship wich was akin to the allspark was able to repair and construct new forms for the robots; Well to my point if humans built the trailer using autobot technology,then the government slipped it to sector seven,they could work to creat there own robots that once ruled the land thus creating the greatest force the planet has known as far as a predator is concerned the thunder lizard,but the humans knowing about the starscream and...I'm reluctant to even use the name. Devistator(BRAWL)and the decepticons air superiority would know that grimlock would need some back up. the dinobots are created not for the autobots but for man as a defence against all these machines should anything happen to the autobots as they are sentient robots that can't be controlled and subject to viruses.LMAO damn that was good for the spur of the moment no?:)

[siwel]

I think the best excuse for Grimlock as a T-rex would be that he is a rebel who doesn't care about hiding, he just wants a form that he likes. I can imagine he gets into an argument with Prime right after he arrives and picks the T-rex just to spite Prime.

[Massani]

go with the comics origin and it all makes damn good sense.

The Dinobots in the comic were not created on Earth, but were a distinct and pre-existing unit of five Autobot soldiers that were aboard the Ark when it crashed to Earth. The comic Dinobots, while not exactly Perceptor-grade, were significantly more intelligent than their cartoon counterparts. (Their commander, Grimlock, served as overall Autobot Commander on more than one occasion.)However, the not as strong as their cartoon counterparts either. Shortly after the crash the Ark's computer detected Shockwave landing on the planet in the Antarctic land-out-of-time that would one day become known as the Savage Land. The Ark used the last of its capabilities to revive these five warriors and rebuild them to transform into the Savage Land's dominant lifeform: dinosaurs. They were then dispatched to deal with the Decepticon, where they sank to the bottom of a tar pit and remained dormant until Ratchet revived them in the 1980s.





we also get shockwave!!!! ((or the dinobots fought megatron into the ice and they were all frozen underground, if thats how bay wants to roll))e

[Silencer001]

I like that idea Massani, finally an Autobot that can stand up to Megatron (And yes, Grimlock is tough enough to stand up to anyone...even Devastator...though he might not win, he'd do a lot of damage.) That takes me back to my point everytime. The Autobots need someone tough that can actually go 1 for 1 with a Decepticon.

[raddimus]

I like the concept massani. and as for 1 on 1 prime went 1 on 1 with two decepticons ,bumbblebee took on barricade. but your right. some tougher autobots are needed.

[Yurre]

What if in the next movie Ratchet sense a weak alien energy source here on earth, then Ironhide or Optimus Prime remembers about an autobot mercenary/lone wolf/former commander who left Cybertron millions of years ago.. (reason is up to the writers to find out)...

The energy signature resembles the one of this powerful autobot by the name of... Grimlock...

They trace the energy source, the grand canyon is where the trace leads them, and buried he leys...

Ratchet manages to revive the beast to find out that he suffers of brain damage which makes him a little.. slow... (not so smart)...

Still he is fearless, arrogant, and powerfull like no other, (well optimus is more powerful, but grimlock thinks outherwise)

His alt-mode is of a T-rex since he came to earth when dinosaurs ruled earth. This alt-mode works for him and that is final!

He wants to be left alone, (using comical comments, like in the g1 cartoons)... Still he helps his former team mates in battle against the decepticons...

During battle Optimus saves Grimlocks life where prime gets hurt, badly... Grimlock realizes that Optimus is the stronger leader and now respects him as his leader... Grimlock assumes the leader role while Optimus gets well...

The rest is up to the script writers.. :)

[raddimus]

sounds alright, Who else thinks they should have all the dino's. It seems like alot character directions open for bay and his team.

[guitarded]

keeping ties with the first movie, Sector 7 kept a lot of secrets....right to the point where they were forced to release Bumblebee. Who knows, maybe The Dinobots were some of those secrets......... their lack of intelligence could be explained by failed experimentation to make them more docile....

If the Dinobots appear, they would be a great comic relief, but I wouldn't want them to be as annoying as jar-jar binks

[raddimus]

hhhmmmm... Interesting point guitarded, I kinda like the idea. to be honest guys. Where is this whole idea they can't be a bit slow come from. I thought bernie mack as well as bumblebee's love song scenes kinda made me relate to the character.maby some of the dino's like swoop...he was always more rational,though did never like the rest of the dino's question there leader grimlock. maby they could in the next movie they could evolve the decepticons characters personalities; as well as introduce some new autobots with long lasting personalities(rodimus/hotrod, ultra magnus,and possibly etc.) possibly some other autobots. Introduce some major decepticon characters like;devastator,for a sec; but end of movie starts with dinobots resparked with the assistance of spikes dad or human enginers of sector seven. having the dino's comming(this is if any of these characters make an appearence which should.) to the rescue of raddimus after ultra takes a major hit and passing on his matrix of leadership that was passed to him when after sending signal to autobots decepticons pick up transmission and catch prime slipping...

what you guys think? the end of what I wrote was kinda weak I know but what about the rest did you like or dis like?:rolleyes:

[Bumblebee1983]

What if in the next movie Ratchet sense a weak alien energy source here on earth, then Ironhide or Optimus Prime remembers about an autobot mercenary/lone wolf/former commander who left Cybertron millions of years ago.. (reason is up to the writers to find out)...

The energy signature resembles the one of this powerful autobot by the name of... Grimlock...

They trace the energy source, the grand canyon is where the trace leads them, and buried he leys...

Ratchet manages to revive the beast to find out that he suffers of brain damage which makes him a little.. slow... (not so smart)...

Still he is fearless, arrogant, and powerfull like no other, (well optimus is more powerful, but grimlock thinks outherwise)

His alt-mode is of a T-rex since he came to earth when dinosaurs ruled earth. This alt-mode works for him and that is final!

He wants to be left alone, (using comical comments, like in the g1 cartoons)... Still he helps his former team mates in battle against the decepticons...

During battle Optimus saves Grimlocks life where prime gets hurt, badly... Grimlock realizes that Optimus is the stronger leader and now respects him as his leader... Grimlock assumes the leader role while Optimus gets well...

The rest is up to the script writers.. :)

Wouldn't that be processors, not brains?

He just needs a memory upgrade!

I crack myself up sometimes. :o

[raddimus]

I'm listening /watching/typing to; I feel so numb. who else thinks this should be starscreams background music entering cybertron?

[Bumblebee1983]

I'm listening /watching/typing to; I feel so numb. who else thinks this should be starscreams background music entering cybertron?

Never heard of it.

[raddimus]

here's a song I'm listening too...tell me what you think?

"What have I done";
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzz_2ISJpKY

Doesn't that sound like a cool theme for starscream. or no?

[raddimus]

first time I heard this song was in this cartoon vid dedicated to starscreams, memory.
here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86P0nPI2bVw

[xXRavenXx]

This and one of those big drills (an earth..something)they use in deep underground tunneling would be fantastic in a TF movie. Constructicons unite!!!! or what ever. ; )


I Dunno why but the Chunnel Machine would be great! I think they are called TBMs. I like that idea, but then again it would attack at the speed of a sloth dipped in Karo syrup and stoned out of his mind on Opium.


**This is post 666 if I die... we will know why**

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[raddimus]

are you dead yet? lol, just checking. And I'm all for forgetting bays typo reference to devastator. That is if does the constructicons.lol

[MegaOctane]

a cool pic of grimlock from deviantart.com

[darkyoda141]

I personally would really like to see Grimlock in Transformers 2

btw, thats a really cool pic of Grimlock, MegaOctane

Justin

[Shadow]

first time I heard this song was in this cartoon vid dedicated to starscreams, memory.
here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86P0nPI2bVwsorry Rad but that song was already used in the first TFs movie. They would never use it for Starscream. And I really would like them to use a new song by someone like God Smack or Disturbed. Something hard.

[Ricardo]

first time I heard this song was in this cartoon vid dedicated to starscreams, memory.
here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86P0nPI2bVw

It is too bad, because it is a nice song.

[Alpina]

We don't even know what the dinosaurs looked like, and no transformer has been around on earth for more than 4 million years, or as in the movie, a couple of thousands. That's, at best, still 50 million years to early for them to arrive here and find a big lizard to replicate. So no dinasaur-transformer crossover's please, I'd buy grimlock beeing big and stupid but no dinosaur-modes!

[raddimus]

So another words you don't want DINO-bots,then alpina? and where did you come up with the figures on how long robots have been on earth cause as I recall didn't the someone say, as far as they know these robots have been here for...but not that they knew for sure how long they had been here.

[Alpina]

In the cartoon they crash on earth 4 million years BC, but that's the cartoon. In the movie Banacheck states that Megatron "crashlanded probably a few thousand year ago", and he's obviously the first of all to arrive att earth since every other Decepticon is searching for him.

[Dman]

"Me Grimlock worried they make me big and clunky like Me Grimlock was in cartoon!"

If they're going to add the Dinobots, and they had to scan other dinosaurs to get their forms, Grim canNOT look like this:



By now, we have a nearly definite idea of what dinosaurs looked like. This tail-dragging, wind-up toy abomination that looks like it'd move about as fast as a riding mower is NOT what I imagine when I think of the king of the dinosaurs.


Now, this:



This is something I'd love to see Grimlock take the form of. Just give it a mechanical look, and it looks like it might actually functions effectively as a warrior in both forms, instead of that ugly hunk of mechanical parts in picture 1.


I don't doubt that Michael Bay will do everything he can to make Grim look a realistic t. rex, but I just hope he gets someone who actually draws dinosaurs for a living, instead of getting someone with no experience drawing them. There are artists out there called "Paleo-artists," who specialize in drawing dinosaurs, and I'm sure there are a few who would be more than happy to design the Dinobots for Bay. I'll jot down some names at the end.
I just hope he doesn't make Grim look like a robotic clone of Spielberg's rex. Give ol' "hood-eyes" a break.

Luis Ray
Todd Marshall
Brett Booth (A comic artist for Dark Horse and an accomplished paleo-artist.)
David Krentz (did the production art for "Dinosaur" (2000))

And, ehm... FYI, I'm also thinking of becoming a paleo-artist myself. I'm planning to draw a few designs for Grimlock's rex mode, if anyone wants to see them.

FIRST POST LOL

[Alpina]

Ehum, picture 1 is what you get when you mechanichalize picture 2...

[guitarded]

Grimlock would look awesome if they follow the lines of the Scorponok design

[raddimus]

Thank you I normally don't agree with you on things but on this you hit it on the head.Hear me out. If the autobots in a sign of good faith to protect the humans help them revive or rebuild a messed up autobot that is unknown to sector seven,or even help create a machine using autobot technology that is lacking the cube which gives certain properties or lack thereof,sounds plausible

[Dman]

Ehum, picture 1 is what you get when you mechanichalize picture 2...

Seriously?

You look at picture one and see the exact same thing as picture two?
Seriously?

No, dude, picture one is what you get when someone tries to mechanize picture two while they're drunk, or suffering from a major head injury.

Anyway, here's a concept picture I did for Grim's rex form. I hate this picture because of the crappy attempt at metal rendering, but it gives you a good idea of how I think Grim should look to fit the 2000's perception of tyrannosaurus.



I'll start work on version 2, because this ain't it.

[Bumblebee1983]

Seriously?

You look at picture one and see the exact same thing as picture two?
Seriously?

No, dude, picture one is what you get when someone tries to mechanize picture two while they're drunk, or suffering from a major head injury.

Anyway, here's a concept picture I did for Grim's rex form. I hate this picture because of the crappy attempt at metal rendering, but it gives you a good idea of how I think Grim should look to fit the 2000's perception of tyrannosaurus.



I'll start work on version 2, because this ain't it.

I can just hear him speaking looking at that.

Pretty cool.

[MaxGod]

I think the War Within Dinobots (sorry: Dynobots) in their Cybertronian modes could be the perfect solution to make everybody happy: Realism combined with strong traditional characters.

G1 Dinobots were and still are my favourite Transformers of all times...but honestly big stupid dinosaurs wouldn't fit into Bay's vision. He should turn them into bullish, crude and aggressive warriors. My suggestion for a great subplot (and more Transformers screentime): Grimlock and Prime in struggle for the Autobot leadership.

[raddimus]

and then hot rod comes in and becomes rodimus and takes over for both prime and the dynobots,lol.