If you, a true fan, had any say....

[Bumblebee1983]

how would you bring back Megatron for the sequel?

[Mech_1000]

1. Too obvious
Regenerated by the cube fragments in his chest (and new ability to withstand all that water, temperature, and pressure to rebuild an underwater base)

2. Too Easy
Starscream returns with technology to rebuild is allies with the assumption his courage and grace will shine down praise and leadership.


3. Winner!
Unicron sensing the cubes power as it is destroyed locates earth. He disassembles himself into a finite sized model (temporarily to) rebuild the decepticon army and bring us Galvatron to do his bidding. Starscream comes in shortly after with his newly found allied rebels to form a 3 way battle - Starscream's Brigade, Unicron's forces, and the Autobots.

[Shadow]

1. Too obvious
Regenerated by the cube fragments in his chest (and new ability to withstand all that water, temperature, and pressure to rebuild an underwater base)

2. Too Easy
Starscream returns with technology to rebuild is allies with the assumption his courage and grace will shine down praise and leadership.


3. Winner!
Unicron sensing the cubes power as it is destroyed locates earth. He disassembles himself into a finite sized model (temporarily to) rebuild the decepticon army and bring us Galvatron to do his bidding. Starscream comes in shortly after with his newly found allied rebels to form a 3 way battle - Starscream's Brigade, Unicron's forces, and the Autobots.
As for the first one..... Dont see that happening....Why? Cause from the looks of it there was only one fragment piece left that Prime took. As for the Second, Starescream knows that the Decepticons that died were only loyal to Megatron, so why bring them back? I think if any of the dead Decepticons come back, Soundwave will bring them back to serve with him and Megatron. Starscream will just come back with his own loyal Decepticons. And three would make the most sence but I really dont think the fans are ready to see Unicron, if at all. I think that in all honesty no one even knows just what the cubes raw power will do to a transformer. Prime asumed that it would distroy him and the cube if the cube was pushed into his chest. Well that was sort of the case when Megatron and the cube became one, so to speak. But do we really know Megatron is dead? Just maybe the cubs power that as we know is in Megatron will bring him back even more powerfull then he was or maybe even so powerfull that he comes back as Galvatron. There would be no need to even bring Unicron into the story at all then. There can still be and I hope there is a three way war between Megatro/Galvatron if that happens, Starscream and Autobots.

[siwel]

I think the most sensible solution is to have Soundwave (or other loyal Decepticon) retrieve and revive Megs. I don't think the cube fragment should be too significant, Starscream would never do it, and Unicron is a ridiculous deus ex machina for making magical things happen and he should never appear in these films. Simple is better. Soundwave dredges him up.

[Shadow]

I think the most sensible solution is to have Soundwave (or other loyal Decepticon) retrieve and revive Megs. I don't think the cube fragment should be too significant, Starscream would never do it, and Unicron is a ridiculous deus ex machina for making magical things happen and he should never appear in these films. Simple is better. Soundwave dredges him up.
That is what I say too and it just sounds most realistic.

[barricade505]

when turning on his power,his red light flashes three times.that means to send him back to the manufacturer....:) have a submarine transformer/ decepticon go down and retrieve megatron.simple.....revive him with two nuclear torpedos fired into the chest.

[autobot2007]

I will shortly be posting a huge post that I have written with my own complete ideas for Transformers sequel almost like a treatment as such it is long and probably only for those who are really interested in TF universe and what fans have to say about it. For megatrons revival, I have stated that sound wave arrives on earth after laserbeak and ravage take survey and locate barracade, ravage is a car tyre and temporarily resides as a spare tyre in barricades trunk while soundwave arrives. Soundwave knows the full story of events on earth. He brings with him Megatrons DNA spark, which was cloned copy of Megatron, whilst alive Megatron commanded him and only him to do this ,Laserbeak flys down the abyss and installs the dna spark, a cubic revival program is commenced through soundwave remotely and you see it holographically form his optics showing a mesh wire diagram of megatron and reconstruction. Scientists etc on cybertron were wiped out there is no more supply of this technology as the war has destroyed so much. Megatron blasts out of the abyss, and laserbeak is connected to megatron. this im still drafting out a little, Soundwave requires the matrix in primes chest to complete the process and near the end of the film, we see a mangled optimus from not only soundwave but other decepticons. we are unsure if he will live and require to wait until TF3, There is no better way to have the tranformers film end, it would keep people itching to see TF3

[uraydo]

well, I wouldn't have let "Sam" kill him in the first place.



Weak!

[siwel]

well, I wouldn't have let "Sam" kill him in the first place.

Shhh, uraydo, it's ok. There, there. None of us would have let that happen either. It was silly and odd and anti-climatic, and you should do what I do: when that scene comes up in the film, just yawn and close your eyes slightly so you can't really see it. It'll be ok. I won't let any little boys kill any more huge war machines from outer space, I promise.

[Shadow]

well, I wouldn't have let "Sam" kill him in the first place.



Weak!Ok we dont know for sure that the cube really killed him. How do we know that the cube didnt just put him into a shut down and is now like some sort of a virus that as we speek is changing him and rebuilding him. He will be stronger, faster and this may be a way to bring him in as Galvatron. You never know!!!

[Shadow]

Also I just watched Armageddon last night(LOVE THIS MOVIE)and said to myself.*Self* It would be cool if Bay ever added Astrotrain(Decepticon) in one of the movies, that he would look cool as one of the Shuttles from Armageddon. The black with the curved wings and the extras that were added to them. SWEET!!! Everyone should take a look and see what im talking about.

[Bumblebee1983]

Also I just watched Armageddon last night(LOVE THIS MOVIE)and said to myself.*Self* It would be cool if Bay ever added Astrotrain(Decepticon) in one of the movies, that he would look cool as one of the Shuttles from Armageddon. The black with the curved wings and the extras that were added to them. SWEET!!! Everyone should take a look and see what im talking about.

Interesting....very interesting......:cool:

[Double]

My theory is that Megatron was never left in the Ocean Abyss, it was just a show put on for the President/Public (if the public knows about it) to make us think he was.

OR

He WAS dropped in the ocean but there was something hiding in there already.

[elemental fantasy]

He is dead, let star scream take over, too mane bad ass decepts. to bring that bonehead back, accept, if there is a third, maybe bring him back at the very end, as for how, I haven't thought of it as he should be crushed by the deep sea depths as indicated by Voit at the end.

[moe]

If I had a say in the making of the next TF movie I would say: Make it 4 hours long w/ a 1/2 hour intermission after the first two hours. You know like they did in the old days when popcorn was 10 cents a gallon.

[siwel]

I don't know, moe, have you ever tried to sit through a theatre show with an intermission, let alone a film? It's awfully trying. 3 hours max.

[Shadow]

I don't know, moe, have you ever tried to sit through a theatre show with an intermission, let alone a film? It's awfully trying. 3 hours max.Ya three hours would be great. Bay likes to make long movies and movies do seem to be getting longer these days.

[Bumblebee1983]

Ya three hours would be great. Bay likes to make long movies and movies do seem to be getting longer these days.

I say the bigger the budget...milk it for all it's worth!!! :D

[Shadow]

I say the bigger the budget...milk it for all it's worth!!! :DYa!! The more the better!

[Starscreamisthebest]

1. Too obvious
Regenerated by the cube fragments in his chest (and new ability to withstand all that water, temperature, and pressure to rebuild an underwater base)

2. Too Easy
Starscream returns with technology to rebuild is allies with the assumption his courage and grace will shine down praise and leadership.


3. Winner!
Unicron sensing the cubes power as it is destroyed locates earth. He disassembles himself into a finite sized model (temporarily to) rebuild the decepticon army and bring us Galvatron to do his bidding. Starscream comes in shortly after with his newly found allied rebels to form a 3 way battle - Starscream's Brigade, Unicron's forces, and the Autobots.

Pfft. Yeah, like Screamer would actually do THAT. (number 2) :rolleyes:

[Bumblebee1983]

Pfft. Yeah, like Screamer would actually do THAT. (number 2) :rolleyes:

What? Screamer do number 2?

Okay, bad joke. :o

*slaps self*

[Rhonda]

how would you bring back Megatron for the sequel?

Lord Galvatron.

[phoenixgirl]

Here is how I see Megatrons revival. Megatron is lying at the bottom of abyss. Crushed by the oceans weight and his inner circuitry fried by the allspark. The once terroizing leader now a shadow of his former self. within the earth that he rests on, a rumbling starts becoming louder by the minute. Bursting from the rock is Scorponok, the only transformer able to resist the pressure of the abyss. He then hauls megatrons empty shell through the tunnels he made back up to the surface where decepticons still loyal to Megatron now wait. Once there, his body is completly rebuilt. What was once the scrap heap that was Megatron has now been reborn as the more powerful and power-hungry scourge of the universe, Galvatron:eek:.

[alexsm]

I wouldn't bring it back. The death of a character should always be definitive. At least in the same saga.

[Aimless]

Well imho it's WAY to early to bring in Galvatron and the rest of 'G2'! There's way too much awesome material to take from.

If you remember from the cartoons, it was Teletran 1 that first 'animated' the autobots into life. Lazerbeak spied on the process and flew back to Soundwave. Atleast that's how i remember it. I also refuse to believe Jazz isn't coming back, the same way as Megatron will.

I can also remember the green underwater people the Decepticons met and allied with, when they got their underwater base, but they'll prolly be a bit far-fetched to bring in to the movies.

The reviving process of Megatron has to be a job for Shockwave. And i bet Perceptor will have no problem fixing Jazz.

I really hope there'll be loads of movies untill we see Galvatron, Ultra Magnus, Elita One and Fortress Maximus and the rest of that Generation. There are SO many cool characters to be introduced first!!!
-Give us Blaster and Omega Supreme or Metroplex for instance! Astrotrain was a great idea... Set him up against Jetfire ;)

/rant off

[Warzone]

The way I would write it:

The bodies of the fallen decepticons lie in the abyss. The camera zooms down through the ocean into the abyss and focuses upon the graveyard before settling upon Megatron, whose eyes start sparking and glowing red. A glow emits from the hole in his chest where the Allspark made contact, and you can see his spark pulsing amid the aura. This aura of energy grows larger until it consumes his whole body - the power of this aura causes the water to boil and evaporate as Megatrons body has been transformed by the Allspark in a method similar to Primals change into Optimal Optimus in Beast Wars.

The aura fades, and there is Galvatron. He uses the power of the Allspark, which he has absorbed, and revives the fallen decepticons, giving them new bodies and new life. Blackout is reformatted into a new loyal second, Cyclonus. Then the two go to hunt starscream.

[Smokescreen_5]

The way I would write it:

The bodies of the fallen decepticons lie in the abyss. The camera zooms down through the ocean into the abyss and focuses upon the graveyard before settling upon Megatron, whose eyes start sparking and glowing red. A glow emits from the hole in his chest where the Allspark made contact, and you can see his spark pulsing amid the aura. This aura of energy grows larger until it consumes his whole body - the power of this aura causes the water to boil and evaporate as Megatrons body has been transformed by the Allspark in a method similar to Primals change into Optimal Optimus in Beast Wars.

The aura fades, and there is Galvatron. He uses the power of the Allspark, which he has absorbed, and revives the fallen decepticons, giving them new bodies and new life. Blackout is reformatted into a new loyal second, Cyclonus. Then the two go to hunt starscream.

Yeah.. see I dunno if that'd work... Because the way the all spark acted with Meg's spark, is like lava burning everything in its path. There wasn't a spark left. I don't see him coming back.

[moron2themax]

Here's to all thoe people who think megatron should be brought back as Galvatron:

IT CAN'T BE DONE. For that to happen, you need to bring in Unicron, which would be way too expensive to make. Megatron could just be brought back to life some other way, and still be called Megatron.

[Starscreamisthebest]

What? Screamer do number 2?

Okay, bad joke. :o

*slaps self*

Um.....awkward?:o

[punkboy]

Ya three hours would be great. Bay likes to make long movies and movies do seem to be getting longer these days.

Nah. Let's not turn TF2 into another bloated 'Pirates of the Caribbean' sequel...

And the first and last time I've ever watched a film that had an intermission was 'Lawrence of Arabia' (on DVD)

[Devastator]

I wouldn't bring it back. The death of a character should always be definitive. At least in the same saga.

I second that but Megatron was one of the only robots in the movie I liked. Hell, the TF cartoons killed Prime like 4 times so fuck it. He gets rebuilt by Soundwave with the other parts from the tank(whatever his fucking name is supposed to be), Blackout, and Scorponock(sp?). Throw Jazz parts in there for good measure.

[Warzone]

Yeah.. see I dunno if that'd work... Because the way the all spark acted with Meg's spark, is like lava burning everything in its path. There wasn't a spark left. I don't see him coming back.

Look, Prime says it himself at the start of the movie: pretty much all they know about the power of the allspark is that it can create worlds and infuse them with life. The Allspark fusing with Megatrons Spark could have removed it from his body temporarily and caused it to regenerate later on. They simply don't know what all of its capabilities are.

Besides, the new toys out there is Nightwatch Prime, which says he has absorbed new powers from the Allspark, presumably from the piece he kept at the end of the movie. Prime gains power from a piece - Megs absorbed the majority. This causing a rise as Galvatron is no great stretch of the imagination.

[elemental fantasy]

Megs died, let it go!!!

Thats the last thing this franchise needs is a bunch of trans fans fuckin things up, kinda like last year, all the stupid requests for TF original voice actors and the old outta date G-1 design. Which would be wacky!!! So yeah, he's dead. And if for whatever reason he is still alive, I probably wouldn't bring him back until the last 2 minutes, maybe just showing he didnt die down there, but is still down there clinging to life, that could lead into a 3rd and final, but to bring him back shows a great lack of imagination from everybody who wants to see it. Overall, it was maybe a mistake to kill Megs at the end, but either way, he's dead and should NOT be brought back for TF2. Perahps they might be able to transfer his essence to another forum, but there are NO decepticons that wanna bring Megs back. They're glad he's dead, especially Starscream. No reason at all to revive him!!! And if they do bring him back, then the ending of TF1 will be completely fucked as the cube in the chest will kill. <---meaning dead, not comin back.

[Bay_Fan_Gibson]

Megs died, let it go!!!

Thats the last thing this franchise needs is a bunch of trans fans fuckin things up, kinda like last year, all the stupid requests for TF original voice actors and the old outta date G-1 design.

Huh? How do requests for original voice actors and designs fuck things up?
So Peter Cullen as Optimus was a negative thing?

I don't understand how fanboys requesting source references is a bad thing....you kinda expect it. Whenever a comic movie comes out the geeks do the same thing...and I don't see it as negative. You can't satisfy them all, but their presence hardly "fuckin things up". They may be annoying sometimes, but their geek knowledge can be useful.




Which would be wacky!!! So yeah, he's dead. And if for whatever reason he is still alive, I probably wouldn't bring him back until the last 2 minutes, maybe just showing he didnt die down there, but is still down there clinging to life, that could lead into a 3rd and final, but to bring him back shows a great lack of imagination from everybody who wants to see it. Overall, it was maybe a mistake to kill Megs at the end, but either way, he's dead and should NOT be brought back for TF2.

Why not?

From a storyline standpoint: Megatron's character is very interesting, and the movie version has plenty of room to develop further. We basically only got introduced to him in the last movie...we can know much more.

From a business standpoint: Megatron is one of the most well known and popular Decepticons out there, right alongside Optimus and Starscream. There's more cash left from that cow. Also, if Soundwave is gonna be in the second one, then Megatron should be there at some point, no?



Perahps they might be able to transfer his essence to another forum, but there are NO decepticons that wanna bring Megs back. They're glad he's dead, especially Starscream. No reason at all to revive him!!! And if they do bring him back, then the ending of TF1 will be completely fucked as the cube in the chest will kill. <---meaning dead, not comin back.

The fact that Starscream doesn't like Megatron is all the more reason for Megatron to return.



He is dead, let star scream take over, too mane bad ass decepts. to bring that bonehead back, accept, if there is a third, maybe bring him back at the very end, as for how, I haven't thought of it as he should be crushed by the deep sea depths as indicated by Voit at the end.

Uh....doesn't that kind of ruin it? Doesn't the fun of Starscream's entire existence stem from the fact that he's a wannabe leader that never quites get there? If you just hand him leadership in part two doesn't that mess that all up?
Starscream's whole purpose would be gone.

[elemental fantasy]

^^^ Well, to be honest, it's a good thing for fans to give ideas, Mike really does read through these threads and he does take things into consideration.

What I was talkin about is how 99% of trans fans were against Bay makin this movie, they wanted ALL the original voice actors and came down on Mike when the new TFs were first revealed. Now they love it....
As a transfan, I totally agree, you cant really have TF without Megs, but as a standard guy or gal (80% of the world) who wasn't into the cartoon but enjoyed the film, will more then likely be appalled by Megs coming back and does indeed seem very uncreative on the film makers behalf.

You also dont have a clue what Starscreams roll is. You have no idea what other decepticons roam out there that could take over from Starscream. After all, isnt his roll an f-15, things change. And no, just because Soundwave is in the sequel, doesnt mean Megs should be. As I said, 80% of this movies revenue came from people who arent even into TF so they dont know the difference anyways. Dont make a potential good film bad cause fan boys want it just like in the cartoon, ya'll look out for the good of preserving TF, but thats not looking out for the good of preserving the reality of the new TF movies which are not the same.

Sorry, didnt mean to lash out at transfans, It's good to bring ideas into things, but just ask what is it for, the movie, or the cartoon movie?

[moron2themax]

OK, here's how i think Megatron will be brought back, now remember, it's just a theory so I don't wanna see you guys start bashing at me for this:


You know how Mr. Bay said that he had an idea for an aircraft carrier decepticon??? What if it wasn't a robot, but a ship? Possibly the Nemesis. Here's a pic that some guy sent to me, he said it was in the special features of the Transformers DVD:

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h171/moron2themax/bscap0115.jpg?t=1211243296

NOw if this is real, which i'd doubt it, this could be something that can definatly go underwater and retrieve Megs.

Also, near the end of the movie, when they drop Megs into the depths and that one guy says that it'll crush and entomb them, I'm thinking that they made the assumption that any earthly metals can be crushed, but what about cybertronian metals??? For all we know, Megs wasn't crushed or anything, but is preserved due to the extreme cold of the depths.

[CaNCeR_thecrabus]

Megatron should remain dead, even though I've thought about how he would return quite a bit (Galvatron much later, but not as Meg). Jazz should remain dead as well. It's good that the cube is destroyed. This isn't a cartoon series and we'll never get 100 movies, death makes the battles actually mean something. If Megatron and Jazz showed back up by being "fixed" by other 'bots, then what is the real point to care about who wins or loses?

You might as well kill Prime at the end of every movie and turn the series into South Park with Kenny. As much as I love Starscream, it's gonna be amazing to see Meg/Galvatron literally reduce him to dust... and he should stay dead when it happens.

[Devastator]

You know how Mr. Bay said that he had an idea for an aircraft carrier decepticon??? What if it wasn't a robot, but a ship? Possibly the Nemesis.

Bay said no spaceship for the robots will ever be in his movies.

[phoenixgirl]

In the novel Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday, both the ark and the Nemesis were shown as the autobots and decepticons primary mode of transportation through space. The comet was only for planet entry. Even if Michael does not show the ships physically, he should at least have them mentioned as they're orbiting a nearby planet.

[degenerateone]

I know everyone is waiting for the movie to follow the cartoon but why does it have to?
How many times can Prime die?
Or Starscream fail megatron?
I am 32 and a huge TF fan but do you really want to see a movie version of Blur or the Dino Bots?
If it were up to me TF2 story would revolve around the AB and DC fighting for control of megatrons body.
That way you can introduce new Transformers and set up a huge story line for TF3 the return of megatron.
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks!

[King of Kings]

I think the most sensible solution is to have Soundwave (or other loyal Decepticon) retrieve and revive Megs. I don't think the cube fragment should be too significant, Starscream would never do it, and Unicron is a ridiculous deus ex machina for making magical things happen and he should never appear in these films. Simple is better. Soundwave dredges him up.

I gotta agree, Soundwave should revive Megs with mayhaps help from Shockwave IMO.

[degenerateone]

Agree that would make a good movie but…
Where do you go from there?
Prime VS. Mega (Galva) tron again?
I am looking forward to a twist to the original story.
Makes it that much better.
Imagine if you saw Hot Rod and Ultra Magnus in TF2 right from the start you would say Oh, Prime’s gonna die and pass the torch to Magnus and then to Rodimus Prime.
Boring…..
Bring on the new shit

[Smokescreen_5]

You also dont have a clue what Starscreams roll is. You have no idea what other decepticons roam out there that could take over from Starscream. After all, isnt his roll an f-15, things change.

I thought he was an F-22


You know how Mr. Bay said that he had an idea for an aircraft carrier decepticon??? What if it wasn't a robot, but a ship? Possibly the Nemesis. Here's a pic that some guy sent to me, he said it was in the special features of the Transformers DVD:

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h171/moron2themax/bscap0115.jpg?t=1211243296

NOw if this is real, which i'd doubt it, this could be something that can definatly go underwater and retrieve Megs.

I believe this is a concept still for a Transformer that most likely resembles Tidal Wave


Bay said no spaceship for the robots will ever be in his movies.

I believe he was referring to ships such as boats.

[degenerateone]

Wow and Micahel Bay posted this on Flickr November 2007.
Way to keep the leaks from getting out Mike!

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/kielbryant/2034757785/in/photostream/)http://www.flickr.com/photos/kielbryant/2034757289/

[Skowl]

I'd bring Megatron back, but only at the very end of the second film. Let Starscream have his day in the sun, he's waited over 20 years for it...

[phoenixgirl]

As much as I want megatron to stay dead, Michael is going to have to bring him back. Megatron started the war and the war should end with his death. Also, for the most evil machine in the universe, he was only active for the last quarter of the movie.

[Rorschach]

As much as I want megatron to stay dead, Michael is going to have to bring him back. Megatron started the war and the war should end with his death. Also, for the most evil machine in the universe, he was only active for the last quarter of the movie.

Yeah, but at least it worked better than the disaterous Venom bit in Spider-Man 3

[phoenixgirl]

Yeah, but at least it worked better than the disaterous Venom bit in Spider-Man 3

Haven't seen it. Lost complete interest in the spidey series after the second. Parker just seems too . . . mopey.:confused:

[Rorschach]

Trust me, ya didn't miss much with Spidey 3...my buddy rented it a while back and it just plain sucked; Peter Parker was emo, Gwen Stacy was way off, Sandman was once again the "Criminal who has a moral reason" and Venom was played by Topher Grace

[phoenixgirl]

glad I didn't see it. Probably would have gagged

[phoenixgirl]

There is the question if Megatron will come back as himself or as Galvatron. Probably Galvatron, seeing as his internal machinery would have to be
completly rebuilt.

[moron2themax]

I believe this is a concept still for a Transformer that most likely resembles Tidal Wave

I know about tidal wave. It was just a theory i had, that's all.

[guitarded]

how would you bring back Megatron for the sequel?

start with a scene above the Laurentian abyss................slowly move the camera down....some sharks, some colorful fish....camera moving down.........some sunken ships and aircraft......junk from just about every war era.

Amidst it all............."MEGATRON"..........camera moves in closer to his seemingly lifeless body in darkness........

Seismic activity shifts some of the junk around, and Megatron is knocked around...........His eyes light up........he's back online, but faintly. He makes use of the junk around him to help power him up. Looks around at Devastator, and Blackouts carcasses......grunts, then transformers, and jets straight up outtat he water......

[Rorschach]

Ed what part of Ontario you from?

I'm in the Mississauga area

[guitarded]

Ed what part of Ontario you from?

I'm in the Mississauga area

Cool!
I grew up in Hamilton and visit there often, but now I live in Port Hope..........east of Oshawa

[Rorschach]

I know roughly where Port Hope is, don't get out Oshawa way very often though

[guitarded]

Your not missing anything if you never go to "The Shwa" :D

I lived there for a few years when I first got hired at the Nuke Plant in Pickering. Rural area of Port Hope is much nicer!

[autobot2007]

.....

[autobot2007]

=o|

[Smokescreen_5]

Cool!
I grew up in Hamilton and visit there often, but now I live in Port Hope..........east of Oshawa

Hamilton eh... hmm.. I used to know a hot lil blonde over on Belividere Ave in Hamilton.. an ice skater.. maybe you knew her? Last name Toporowski?