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vittaldadambbs
06-21-2009, 12:59 AM
hai guys i am sure that transformers ROTF is going to released on 24th .
so how much do you think the film will gross in its first 5 days!!!!
vittaldadambbs
06-21-2009, 01:00 AM
i think it will around $200 mln
Ayser Jubair
06-21-2009, 01:10 AM
lol!!!
why would you make a topic! and post the first reply!!
and we had threads about this!!
i give 80 - 110 mil...
vittaldadambbs
06-21-2009, 01:13 AM
lol!!!
why would you make a topic! and post the first reply!!
and we had threads about this!!
i give 80 - 110 mil...
i don't think we have thread about this i:e about 5 day collection .
and what is the problem in i am posting a first reply man
brAnd7onX
06-21-2009, 01:16 AM
$165 million
i don't think we have thread about this i:e about 5 day collection .
and what is the problem in i am posting a first reply man
It is silly to post a 1st reply to your own thread answering your own question when you could have put what you thought it would make in your initial posting and then asked for opinions.
swishbig
06-21-2009, 11:55 AM
There was already a post like this but i would say around 120mil maybe?
fu2kimus_prime
06-21-2009, 11:57 AM
I'll go with Paramounts own estimate of 160 mil.
Michael Do
06-21-2009, 01:09 PM
over $90000000
Drake
06-21-2009, 01:20 PM
Two-fiddy
Sonya
06-21-2009, 02:26 PM
Way lots.
Superion
06-21-2009, 02:37 PM
I'd guess that it will make slightly less than the first movie made in terms of 5-day gross. But over time, I'd expect the numbers to even out a little because I think this one will be re-watched more than the first.
It's a little annoying that those of us who have seen it aren't allowed to post our thougths in the official discussion thread (which is clearly marked SPOILERS, so I don't see how anybody could complain about being "spoiled" because they read it).
All I will say is that I think there is a strong core of adult fans of these movies, judging by the crowds I've seen the two times I've been to see it so far - and I think ROTF is designed to offer a little more appeal to this older audience. The comedy is definitely more mature and the action is darker and more violent. I definitely prefer it to the first movie - this one is action packed from start to finish - you don't go for longer than 6 or 7 minutes without seeing a Transformer or some cool CGI effect.
I loved it!
(Now open the damn discussion thread so we can discuss the movie, if you haven't seen it yet, keep out of the thread until you have - it's not rocket science!)
nelson
06-21-2009, 05:27 PM
Transformers 2 opened spectacularly in their world debuts in the UK and Japan, grossing a total of $20 mil from 846 locations. The Michael Bay directed film was a clear #1 in both territories, with the UK’s opening total of $14.1 mil from 517 locations outperforming rival comic book sequel Spider-Man 2 by 18%, the original Transformers movie by 71% and coming within 3% of the Dark Knight weekend total. In Japan, the film’s gross of $5.8mn from 329 locations was 64% ahead of The Dark Knight, and only 13% behind Transformers which had the advantage of opening in Summer school holidays.
The franchise’s eagerly awaited second instalment opens across most of the rest of the world next week on Wednesday June 24th.
Mindfreak87
06-21-2009, 06:30 PM
I am proud of the UK. That is quite a sum for us. Star Trek has only made £20 million in 6 weeks. And TF2, £8.5 million on it's first 3 day weekend!
Now lets see those really big numbers next Sunday. Come on USA.
transfrominside
06-21-2009, 08:06 PM
That's good to hear. I cant wait to see how T2 performs in USA.
Jason Gould
06-21-2009, 08:41 PM
Cool lets see how it does this week.
Trigger Mike
06-21-2009, 10:38 PM
Does it really matter? Do you have money riding on the outcome? Are you a Paramount stock holder?
Just enjoy the movie people! This isn't a horse race.
darthrage
06-22-2009, 12:45 AM
Does it really matter? Do you have money riding on the outcome? Are you a Paramount stock holder?
Just enjoy the movie people! This isn't a horse race.
Of course it doesn't matter
But people like to root for their movies just like they are rooting for their favorite football team
If it makes lots of money, we're happy. If it doesn't, we're dissappointed. There ain't no harm in that.
I love predicting movie box office takes, especially during the summer blockbuster season
redqueenar
06-22-2009, 02:39 AM
Transformers 2 opened spectacularly in their world debuts in the UK and Japan, grossing a total of $20 mil from 846 locations. The Michael Bay directed film was a clear #1 in both territories, with the UK’s opening total of $14.1 mil from 517 locations outperforming rival comic book sequel Spider-Man 2 by 18%, the original Transformers movie by 71% and coming within 3% of the Dark Knight weekend total. In Japan, the film’s gross of $5.8mn from 329 locations was 64% ahead of The Dark Knight, and only 13% behind Transformers which had the advantage of opening in Summer school holidays.
The franchise’s eagerly awaited second instalment opens across most of the rest of the world next week on Wednesday June 24th.
You should replace the countdown with a dollars up. :D
Trigger Mike
06-22-2009, 03:01 AM
Of course it doesn't matter
But people like to root for their movies just like they are rooting for their favorite football team
If it makes lots of money, we're happy. If it doesn't, we're dissappointed. There ain't no harm in that.
I love predicting movie box office takes, especially during the summer blockbuster season
And that's EXACTLY what confuses me. A movie isn't a football team.
How can you be so invested in the financial side of a movie you haven't even seen yet? It would be different if a classic film from your childhood was getting re-released to theatres. I could understand the mentality to cheer that on and hope it does well, but c'mon, you haven't even seen these movies yet.
I completely understand that people are invested in the characters and story because it's a sequel continuing an already established narrative. Fair game. What I'm saying is cheer on the story and quality of the movie instead. Fuck the box office. Talk about how good you want the film to be and not how much money you want it to make. Yes, this is show business, but it's storytelling first and foremost.
*sigh*
I long for the days when box office wasn't reported in the mainstream media. Now we have these Internet critics labeling movies a "hit" or "flop" on Saturday morning.
No one is talking about the movies anymore and that's all I'm trying to stress. It's all about Spider-Man 3 made an outrageous amount of money. Yeah, but the film stinks.
Story, story, story. Leave the bottom line to the bean counters.
brAnd7onX
06-22-2009, 03:21 AM
You should replace the countdown with a dollars up. :D
Love that idea... It would shut up the haters :)... only one problem... can numbers go that high? :lol
darthrage
06-22-2009, 03:33 AM
And that's EXACTLY what confuses me. A movie isn't a football team.
How can you be so invested in the financial side of a movie you haven't even seen yet? It would be different if a classic film from your childhood was getting re-released to theatres. I could understand the mentality to cheer that on and hope it does well, but c'mon, you haven't even seen these movies yet.
I completely understand that people are invested in the characters and story because it's a sequel continuing an already established narrative. Fair game. What I'm saying is cheer on the story and quality of the movie instead. Fuck the box office. Talk about how good you want the film to be and not how much money you want it to make. Yes, this is show business, but it's storytelling first and foremost.
*sigh*
I long for the days when box office wasn't reported in the mainstream media. Now we have these Internet critics labeling movies a "hit" or "flop" on Saturday morning.
No one is talking about the movies anymore and that's all I'm trying to stress. It's all about Spider-Man 3 made an outrageous amount of money. Yeah, but the film stinks.
Story, story, story. Leave the bottom line to the bean counters.
its not a footballe team but we all still wanna route for Michael Bay to do well and outdo himself. And the best thing to compare it to is to compare it to the first one as well as other box office giants and direct competitors.
That's all part of what Hollywood has turned into. Society and media has made (some of) us actually care about this sort of thing. Why else do you think they report it on a weekly basis?? Because people actually care about box office numbers.
I sure as hell do but its not going to affect my enjoyment of the movie. I love some major box office bombs and I despise some box office giants. But while I love Michael Bay movies, I'm going to be watching the movie, enjoying the hell out of them, watching them again and also reading what other people think and also checking out the box office results on a weekly basis.
I want it to do well. This kind of thing is hard to ignore when the media shoves it our faces through various websites. I love checking the top 10s of the week and the best openers for a particular month or week. It is really interesting information. It has nothing to do with whether or not I'm invested in the movie financially, we are just interested.
The same goes for a movie from a director that I despise like Uwe Boll for example. I like to look at his box office takes because I hope he does poorly. We all look at the box office take for different reasons and the fact that we're not invested is irrelevant. I wanna root for my favorite director and giving him my money. The fact that I contributed 0.000001% to his movie's box office take warrants a slight amount of concern of how much it does. I believe that's a fair statement. But like I said, it doesn't affect my enjoyment of the movie.
It's a Transformers movie, you can give me a thin-ass plot with holes that when combined is larger than the one up in the ozone layer in it and as long as robots are fighting, that's all I really care about in the end. I think Michael Bay delivered the goods and he deserves the box office numbers that some of us who care have box office have predicted.
And predicting box office takes is part of the fun of the summer blockbuster season.
Trigger Mike
06-22-2009, 03:39 PM
its not a footballe team but we all still wanna route for Michael Bay to do well and outdo himself. And the best thing to compare it to is to compare it to the first one as well as other box office giants and direct competitors.
That's pretty much the WORST thing to compare in my humble opinion. If you have to 'race' your movies against each other, then compare them on a basis of story/character/execution. In other words, let's compare the CONTENT of the film and not some esoteric numbers.
That's all part of what Hollywood has turned into. Society and media has made (some of) us actually care about this sort of thing. Why else do you think they report it on a weekly basis?? Because people actually care about box office numbers.
People enjoy betting on things. Like I said; they've reduced it all to a horse race. But why films? We never compared opening weekend sales of music CDs. We don't talk about the opening weekend of every DVD release. I don't think it helps studios, ultimately. If the film doesn't open big, then the media is going to rip it apart and it becomes very hard for a film to make its money back. Movies have one weekend to perform these days and that's an unfair amount of pressure to put on any film.
It's a Transformers movie, you can give me a thin-ass plot with holes that when combined is larger than the one up in the ozone layer in it and as long as robots are fighting, that's all I really care about in the end.
Then you are one easily satisfied individual. Unfortunately for me, I'm more demanding of filmmakers I respect.
Sillypuddy
06-22-2009, 04:26 PM
I'll go with Paramounts own estimate of 160 mil.
Box-Office Mojo is reporting TF2 will be in 4000 theaters...basically the same as the first movie...With this film being longer than the first, I do not see it doing much more than the first thru its 1st 5 days which was around 110 million(Wed thru Sun)a. However, taking into account the Tuesday opening for the first one, there should be more weekend busines for this one, but it will be hurt by its running time...151 minutes... Paramounts prediction of $160 million is bold...thats an 8000per theatre avg per day, which is HUGE....the first movie only did 7250 avg for its best day, and a 6092 avg thru its first weekend...the fan-boy in me says 150 million for its first 5 days...the realist in me says 135 million...and a long run thru the summer...making a total of around 350 million...
berrycoolz
06-22-2009, 05:14 PM
Box-Office Mojo is reporting TF2 will be in 4000 theaters...basically the same as the first movie...With this film being longer than the first, I do not see it doing much more than the first thru its 1st 5 days which was around 110 million(Wed thru Sun)a. However, taking into account the Tuesday opening for the first one, there should be more weekend busines for this one, but it will be hurt by its running time...151 minutes... Paramounts prediction of $160 million is bold...thats an 8000per theatre avg per day, which is HUGE....the first movie only did 7250 avg for its best day, and a 6092 avg thru its first weekend...the fan-boy in me says 150 million for its first 5 days...the realist in me says 135 million...and a long run thru the summer...making a total of around 350 million...
why would the running time hurt?
who cares what the critics say
Titanic and The Dark Knight are the two highest grossing movies in the US and Dark Knight is just as long as Transformers 1 or 2. Titanic was well over 3 hours. I don't see how people will not like T2. (this is just my honest opinion)
160 million.. just as Paramount predicts.
HURRY UP TOMORROW NIGHT 12AM!!!!
Trigger Mike
06-22-2009, 05:21 PM
Amid all my rambling above, I forgot to give my prediction.
I think Transformers 2 should make $423 million in it's first five days domestically. I'm going to be real disappointed if it doesn't. Cos box office is so important and determines whether I'll see a movie or not.
:rolleyes:
darthrage
06-22-2009, 05:26 PM
We pay attention to box office numbers but we ultimately don't care about them. It doesn't affect our enjoyment. But it does makes a decent topic of discussion for some people.
Anyways back on topic,
Transformers (2007) did
1st day - $36.6 (includes July 2 8pm preview)
6 day opening - $155 (includes July 2 8pm preview)
Domestic Gross - $319
International Gross - $389
World Wide total - $708
My prediction for Transformers ROTF
1st day - $41
5 day opening - $171
Domestic Gross - $390
International Gross - $500
World Wide Total - $890
ROTF has no direct competition. It is directed at the general audience including kids and 80s fanboys. Families will be attending. Its only real competition is Ice Age and Harry Potter. Both will mainly be directed towards kids and fans of the originals and its followers of the novels. Although Public Enemies is anticipated, it is rated R, and the only thing it has going for it is star power. It will be a great movie but it is a different demographic. I like Michael Mann but I think he might've lost some followers after Miami Vice (which I totally enjoyed). And Michael Bay has already gained a whole bunch of new fans from the first Transformers movie. Those who did not catch Transformers in 2007 in the theater and only on DVD are definitely going to watch ROTF on the big screen. And also, don't forget about repeat viewings and as well people re-watching it on IMAX. There's alot of positive stuff going for it that will help it outdo the original in box office numbers. The critics aren't going to do much about it because everyone knows what to expect in these kinds of movies. And that is to have a fun time and be entertained. Michael Bay said it himself in the Bad Boys commentary, he's just looking to entertain people. And good entertainment is what brings in the box office dollars.
darthrage
06-22-2009, 05:33 PM
why would the running time hurt?
who cares what the critics say
Titanic and The Dark Knight are the two highest grossing movies in the US and Dark Knight is just as long as Transformers 1 or 2. Titanic was well over 3 hours. I don't see how people will not like T2. (this is just my honest opinion)
Running time can hurt box office dollars
If a movie is too long, there will be less screenings of the movie
Titanic is an exception because it was a ground breaking movie and regardless of a 3 hour movie, it made people want to go back again and again and again. There was a girl who watched it 100 times. And the consistent box office kept it in the theater for almost a whole year.
That is why Miramax insists that Quentin Tarantino split his movies, because he makes overly long movies ever since Kill Bill. They think, why would get $10 for a movie when you can split the movie in half and get audience to pay again to watch the other half??
Dark Knight made a well deserved domestic total because it was just an all around awesome film in every aspect and the long run time didn't affect it.
I don't believe run time will affect ROTF because it is only a few more minutes longer than the first one and we all know it will do better than the first.
darthrage
06-22-2009, 05:36 PM
Cos box office is so important and determines whether I'll see a movie or not.
:rolleyes:
nope, cuz you've already seen it (twice) by the time it reaches that amount, hence the argument is irrelevant at this point
Box office dollars has never affected whether or not someone sees a movie. It just happens to be a common topic of discussion for this type of movie
gstommylee
06-22-2009, 05:45 PM
It'll probably gain more screens the following week.
nelson
06-22-2009, 05:46 PM
News from China:
http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/ec79ab31c5cc600dfcd4f9e20d1d923d-531.html
News from China:
http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/ec79ab31c5cc600dfcd4f9e20d1d923d-531.html
Wow a convoy of Bumblebees! I have to give props to their dedication to the movie. :)
Jason Gould
06-22-2009, 06:01 PM
I hope it makes $400 million Domestic gross.
Sillypuddy
06-22-2009, 06:21 PM
why would the running time hurt?
who cares what the critics say
Titanic and The Dark Knight are the two highest grossing movies in the US and Dark Knight is just as long as Transformers 1 or 2. Titanic was well over 3 hours. I don't see how people will not like T2. (this is just my honest opinion)
160 million.. just as Paramount predicts.
HURRY UP TOMORROW NIGHT 12AM!!!!
Titanic never made more than $14 million on any given day, but that movie had serious staying power....it made at least a million dollars for 101 straight days during its release....to compare...Transformers only did this feat for 34 days..... Titanic had a major reason for being so huge...everybody wanted to see the damn boat sink....
The Dark Knight had three Major things going for it... 1)Heath Ledger 2)A Lightning in a bottle storyline. 3)it was in 4366 theaters!!!! Almost 10% more than what TF2 will be in. It averaged 12k per theater per day in its first weekend for 158 million...even if TF2 opened on a Friday, it has no chance of doing that type of number.....
I don't think it will be a matter of liking the film...160 million is 32 million per day for the 5 days....does it get that high the first two days??? If it doesn't, what does it have to make over the weekend to compensate? Tough call....
Sillypuddy
06-22-2009, 06:24 PM
Amid all my rambling above, I forgot to give my prediction.
I think Transformers 2 should make $423 million in it's first five days domestically. I'm going to be real disappointed if it doesn't. Cos box office is so important and determines whether I'll see a movie or not.
:rolleyes:
:lol..... well said!!! I am a numbers junkie when it comes to movies....always have been....
nelson
06-24-2009, 02:38 PM
TF2 made $16 million in just on the midnight showings alone.
Only The Dark Knight and Star Wars Ep. 3 have done such but they did it on a Thursday plus had the benefit opening earlier in the day.
Jason Gould
06-24-2009, 02:46 PM
How do you know that, and will this count for Wednesday gross tomorrow to.
darthrage
06-24-2009, 03:12 PM
I'm looking for some serious records to be broken
And then they can give Michael a bigger budget to work with :)
joeV31
06-24-2009, 08:30 PM
I' want to be modest and say $85 million but if it made 20 million in one midnight showing i will go with $120 million
gstommylee
06-25-2009, 12:26 AM
HOLY! tf2 made an estimate 55m+ opening day on a Wednesday for a new record.
Jason Gould
06-25-2009, 07:58 AM
Looks like the movie will be making allot of money as I expected.
wingzero
06-25-2009, 10:17 AM
As long as the general public won't listen to critics nonsense lies and paid bashers whining and ranting against the movie to bring down the franchise then as of today my current estimates are:
Opening Week 5-day US Domestic total: $145-215million
Final US Domestic total (September?): $330-420million
Opening Week 5-day Rest Of The World total: $90-150million
Final Rest Of The World total (September?): $380-550million
pearllharbourwasntthatbad
06-25-2009, 11:01 AM
i think I agree with this cycle
gstommylee
06-25-2009, 11:31 AM
60.6m opening day :eek::eek::eek::eek:!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i037fd3bd514a4f30580927895c8e8ede
Jason Gould
06-25-2009, 11:57 AM
60.6m opening day :eek::eek::eek::eek:!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i037fd3bd514a4f30580927895c8e8ede
That's allot and good.
taybrian1
06-25-2009, 06:01 PM
We're doing it you guys! We're making this movie into history!
Based off 1 day totals I am gonna say 450 million world wide. By the time does it run in theaters I am gonna predict near if not over the 1 billion mark.
Firefrost
06-25-2009, 06:39 PM
Glad to be a part, I'll add to it this weekend. Eff the nay sayers!!!
xSoundwave
06-25-2009, 11:14 PM
I'm tacking on to that total this weekend. =]
I say, ballpark figure, somewhere around $375 million domestically.
S.A.A.D
06-26-2009, 12:47 AM
The movie has made not counting today worldwide is Domestic: $60,628,141 50.5% + Foreign: $59,457,905 49.5%
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= Worldwide: $120,086,046
And this isn't even including the places the movie opened in yesterday and that are going to open in today.
Mech_1000
06-26-2009, 02:34 AM
For some reason I'm thinking this movie is going to get between 300 and 400 million. I'd love to see it be extremely successful, as was the first (and hopefully nudge Bay to agree to a 2011 release date). Hell, today I was watching Xplay (G4TV Show) and they basically said Transformers Revenge of the Fallen sucked :(
BeetleJuice
06-26-2009, 04:43 AM
Based off 1 day totals I am gonna say 450 million world wide. By the time does it run in theaters I am gonna predict near if not over the 1 billion mark.
It will suffer a massive second week collapse. The hype alone is the only reason this movie had a monster opening day.
Word of mouth will kill it.
wingzero
06-26-2009, 05:06 AM
It will suffer a massive second week collapse. The hype alone is the only reason this movie had a monster opening day.
Word of mouth will kill it.
If for word of mouth you mean the competitors employees paid to bash the movie on forums spreading lies...
Because real people, the real audience is loving the movie.
On the 'net it's full of fake accounts used by the competition to kill Transformers2.
spencey7
06-26-2009, 09:32 AM
Because real people, the real audience is loving the movie.
Haha, and your reason for thinking this is...? What empirical, quantitative research have you conducted?
And what of the critics (worldwide), who condemned the movie (http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen/) as worse than Land of the Lost, Night at the Museum 2, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Angels & Demons, Knowing, Ghosts of Girlfriends Past and many other cinematic turds?
On the 'net it's full of fake accounts used by the competition to kill Transformers2.
You're too funny man... :D The fact you actually seem to believe this kills me!
Word of mouth and the racism furore will already have killed this movie - it's dead in the water.
alexsm
06-26-2009, 09:52 AM
When i went to see it we where 8:
Of those 7:
-1 Girl hated it (found all the transformers characters and their names ridicolous and hated all the fem characters)
-1 Girl didn't like it very much (think it was too long and didn't get really involved)
-1 Girl thought it has some flaws but for the rest was Amazing (gives it 8,5/10)
-1 1 Guy thought it was OK. Funny and spectacular.
-2 Guys found it great
-2 Guys (one was me) found it AWESOME.
We have 2 AWESOME, 3 great, 1 ok, 1 "a bit bad", 1 awful (but also hates Transformers universe).
Not bad i think.
S.A.A.D
06-26-2009, 03:45 PM
It will suffer a massive second week collapse. The hype alone is the only reason this movie had a monster opening day.
Word of mouth will kill it.
Wroooooong. Despite many movie critics not liking the movie,there are more normal people who like/love than normal people who hate/dislike
the movie despite where you live that is what is the general consensus all over the world. And by this Tuesday the movie will have made $300+ million worldwide and with continue making lots of money.
alexsm
06-26-2009, 03:49 PM
Wroooooong. Despite many movie critics not liking the movie,there are more normal people who like/love than normal people who hate/dislike
the movie despite where you live that is what is the general consensus all over the world. And by this Tuesday the movie will have made $300+ million worldwide and with continue making lots of money.
¿Tuesday? On Sunday night you will have those 300 Million.
Now is 89 domestic (wednesday+thursday)
60 overseas (not counting thursday).
150 Million.
There will be (more or less) another 100 Million domestic until sunday and probably the same overseas (thursday + weekend).
S.A.A.D
06-26-2009, 04:11 PM
¿Tuesday? On Sunday night you will have those 300 Million.
Now is 89 domestic (wednesday+thursday)
60 overseas (not counting thursday).
150 Million.
There will be (more or less) another 100 Million domestic until sunday and probably the same overseas (thursday + weekend).
Well I said Tuesday because that is the actual time that box office mojo website updates the box office numbers foreign wise.
Inflataman
06-27-2009, 04:23 AM
Wow it's just smashing expectations "Sources tell me Paramount's Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen is looking like it took in $35M tonight from 4,234 theaters. The studio is now estimating its 3-day weekend cume bigger than expected: $105M vs $90M previously anticipated. That means the robot sequel can get to $195M for the 5-day opening total." link here (http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/link%20here).
vittaldadambbs
06-27-2009, 04:43 AM
http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5266
alexsm
06-27-2009, 06:56 AM
wow, that means probably 350+ at the end of the weekend.
gstommylee
06-27-2009, 08:25 AM
Its only an estimate and it might be a bit low than what the actual is.
xSoundwave
06-27-2009, 12:17 PM
Looks like the $175-180 million estimates are looking pretty good.
Sillypuddy
06-27-2009, 12:32 PM
Looks like the $175-180 million estimates are looking pretty good.
If it follows the normal weekend pattern of most movies....we should be looking at 185mil through Sunday--- That is flipping awesome!!!! Second weekend numbers won't matter as much because it will have been in theaters for 10 days already.....I would think a 45 million weekend is probably what it will do...remember, we lose the ladies from the audience come wednesday with the Johnny Depp movie coming out.... I still say the movie does $350 million, but not much more than that....
Inflataman
06-27-2009, 01:39 PM
To the guy who said it might be lower then expected it's actually 1.7 million dollars higher. "Paramount-DreamWorks' action-sequel "Transformers: The Revenge of the Fallen" continued to dominate the box office Friday raking in $36.7 million and raising its running domestic cume to $125.9 million over three days." link here (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118005466.html?categoryid=1043&cs=1) It's probably ending with 180 million or just short of that unless it has a monster weekend that's the only way it's beating Dark Knight. FYI everyone I've talked to outside of the internet loved it.
TIMtationX
06-27-2009, 03:53 PM
It will suffer a massive second week collapse. The hype alone is the only reason this movie had a monster opening day.
Word of mouth will kill it.
That's funny, because i haven't heard a bad review from anyone I know that's seen it. Fact is, the general public is enjoying the movie, and the only people that hated it are critics and those TF fans who'll never be satisfied no matter what.
taybrian1
06-27-2009, 04:37 PM
That's funny, because i haven't heard a bad review from anyone I know that's seen it. Fact is, the general public is enjoying the movie, and the only people that hated it are critics and those TF fans who'll never be satisfied no matter what.
Same here. I'm the only TF fan amongst my friends and coworkers and we all really liked it. Almost everyone from my job has told me that they thought it was amazing.
alexsm
06-27-2009, 04:42 PM
Looking at imdb votes is clearly seen that a fairly big amount of people hates the movie (nearly 10%) but most people loves it. Nearly 70% are voting 7 or more and 30% says 10/10.
wingzero
06-27-2009, 06:41 PM
Looking at imdb votes is clearly seen that a fairly big amount of people hates the movie (nearly 10%) but most people loves it. Nearly 70% are voting 7 or more and 30% says 10/10.
On IMDB it's full of competitors studio plants employees trying to bring down the movie and give it a very low IMDB rating to influence people from watching it. The competition has to push Public Enemies and HarryPotter6 mainly and they are really scared now by the huge success of Transformers2 (that has some flaws that the novel version of it doesn't have unfortunately but that it still is the best movie of 2009 for sure and featuring the best CGI ever seen to date).
The IMDB rating is a joke that is currently being played by competitors studios scam. It's currently rated 6.9 and going down which is just crazy. Transformers2 for the CGI alone deserves a straight 8.5/10. I still value it 9.5/10 overall BUT I would have loved to see Bay fix some flaws and I hope that the Blu-Ray version at least will re-integrate the filmed finalized deleted scenes that make it more like the novel.
Whoever likes Transformers2 and whoever wants Transformers3 to happen should spend a bit of time voting on sites like IMDB to bring the rating up now. All help is needed until mid-August at least to counter-attack competitors scam and to let people not get influenced by paid bashers with their fake accounts posting false negative things about the movie.
alexsm
06-27-2009, 06:56 PM
On IMDB it's full of competitors studio plants employees trying to bring down the movie and give it a very low IMDB rating to influence people from watching it. The competition has to push Public Enemies and HarryPotter6 mainly and they are really scared now by the huge success of Transformers2 (that has some flaws that the novel version of it doesn't have unfortunately but that it still is the best movie of 2009 for sure and featuring the best CGI ever seen to date).
The IMDB rating is a joke that is currently being played by competitors studios scam. It's currently rated 6.9 and going down which is just crazy. Transformers2 for the CGI alone deserves a straight 8.5/10. I still value it 9.5/10 overall BUT I would have loved to see Bay fix some flaws and I hope that the Blu-Ray version at least will re-integrate the filmed finalized deleted scenes that make it more like the novel.
Whoever likes Transformers2 and whoever wants Transformers3 to happen should spend a bit of time voting on sites like IMDB to bring the rating up now. All help is needed until mid-August at least to counter-attack competitors scam and to let people not get influenced by paid bashers with their fake accounts posting false negative things about the movie.
I don't thin they paid too much people to vote 1... and Bay movies usually have many people wich hates 'em. For me it's hard to understand, but happends. The people i know usually loves them or hates them, but it's hard to find people who say something in betwen.
And in the case that happends, when the number of votes reaches 100.000+ votes the influence of that should be negligible.
gstommylee
06-27-2009, 11:21 PM
paramount is now estimating 115m for opening weekend which will be enough to pass the dark knight.
Mech_1000
06-27-2009, 11:29 PM
paramount is now estimating 115m for opening weekend which will be enough to pass the dark knight.
I hope it does :D
scalan15
06-28-2009, 01:35 AM
$39,500,000 Million for Saturday!!!!! That makes a total of $165,400,000. I have a feeling it will be more like 43 Million, this guy always seems to go low on the total. Dark knight record, here we come!!!
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/transformers-2-midnights-16-million/
Mech_1000
06-28-2009, 02:12 AM
I really hope its able to pass The Dark Knight!!!
darthrage
06-28-2009, 03:06 AM
The Dark Knight is an awesome movie but I soooo want Transformers ROTF to beat it and break a new record in its first 5 days
I'm there tomorrow in IMAX with my parents
sls3553
06-28-2009, 05:45 AM
$39,500,000 Million for Saturday!!!!! That makes a total of $165,400,000. I have a feeling it will be more like 43 Million, this guy always seems to go low on the total. Dark knight record, here we come!!!
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/transformers-2-midnights-16-million/
Yup, I got the same feeling too. Apparently that guy still thinks thet TFROTF will never beat TDK. We'll see........
alexsm
06-28-2009, 06:58 AM
Seems that we have $39,5M on Saturday. That makes $165,5M full domestic gross and $245,5M Worldwide (with International data just reaching thursday).
If the weekend goes as with the first movie, Sunday will be around 13% higher than saturday, wich means $44M and a total of $209,5M for the 5 days Opening week.
This will give a worldwide gross of around $290M (with international data just reaching thursday).
Once we had the worldwide gross until Sunday i can't think in anything less than $350-400M.
And now I have a question. How much money is needed to start having benefits? Because the $200M budget is just production, isn't it? How much could be typically spent in promotion+distribution? and how much of the total gross returns to the studio? Sometime ago i read you need to double the budget, but i'm not sure if that could be sayd about every movie.
Jason Gould
06-28-2009, 08:17 AM
I'm sorry guys, but doesn't Sunday usually go down a little bit. Will find out later on today at Box Office Mojo.
alexsm
06-28-2009, 08:23 AM
I'm sorry guys, but doesn't Sunday usually go down a little bit. Will find out later on today at Box Office Mojo.
You're right, the position of the days in Boxofficemojo confused me. I didn't read the name of the days and thought that the last of the line would be sunday.
So we'll have in the first movie that sunday was around 0,9 saturday, so we'll have around 35,5M wich will make a total amount of 201 Million $, two below TDK.
The rest i think is still correct.
wingzero
06-28-2009, 08:50 AM
Seems that we have $39,5M on Saturday. That makes $165,5M full domestic gross and $245,5M Worldwide (with International data just reaching thursday).
If the weekend goes as with the first movie, Sunday will be around 13% higher than saturday, wich means $44M and a total of $209,5M for the 5 days Opening week.
This will give a worldwide gross of around $290M (with international data just reaching thursday).
Once we had the worldwide gross until Sunday i can't think in anything less than $350-400M.
And now I have a question. How much money is needed to start having benefits? Because the $200M budget is just production, isn't it? How much could be typically spent in promotion+distribution? and how much of the total gross returns to the studio? Sometime ago i read you need to double the budget, but i'm not sure if that could be sayd about every movie.
I don't work in the showbiz and so I don't know they profits margin but if we want to see an outstanding practically flawless Transformers3 movie created with an higher budget then Transformers2 needs to gross more than the first movie for sure. I think that a final worldwide box office gross below the $850million mark could create troubles to get an higher budget for the next movie. If it reaches up to $890millions like Spiderman3 then I think investors would raise the budget for the third movie with no worries.
Transformes3 will need at least $250million budget in order to create something unique and have the storyline and all scenes refined and flowing better than on Transformers2.
Drake
06-28-2009, 10:21 AM
I don't work in the showbiz and so I don't know they profits margin but if we want to see an outstanding practically flawless Transformers3 movie created with an higher budget then Transformers2 needs to gross more than the first movie for sure. I think that a final worldwide box office gross below the $850million mark could create troubles to get an higher budget for the next movie. If it reaches up to $890millions like Spiderman3 then I think investors would raise the budget for the third movie with no worries.
Transformes3 will need at least $250million budget in order to create something unique and have the storyline and all scenes refined and flowing better than on Transformers2.
I think ROTF will make a very nice profit...
gstommylee
06-28-2009, 10:29 AM
dhd always tend to lowball the number. Saturday's # would be in the 40s with actuals then the sunday # would be what sat's actual estimate is. With Actual it could increase maybe 1-2m but that's a maybe.
Jason Gould
06-28-2009, 11:05 AM
The movies opening weekend is $112,000,000, Saturday it made $40,600,000, and Sunday made $34,600,000. All together on 5 days it made $201,246,000. And we will find out how much it made on Foreign later, I think.
Inflataman
06-28-2009, 11:14 AM
Isn't today Sunday how is that possible.
alexsm
06-28-2009, 11:18 AM
estimates
berrycoolz
06-28-2009, 11:36 AM
Why does box office mojo estimate $201 million domestically as of today?
I know the Film made 39.5 million for saturday, so I'm guessing that the box office is wrong as of now?
Are you guys talking about North America only or worldwide?
alexsm
06-28-2009, 11:44 AM
Are you guys talking about North America only or worldwide?
Just the USA.
Inflataman
06-28-2009, 11:44 AM
North American it is puzzling to me how this works.
Just the USA.
And TDK has a record for USA only?
Inflataman
06-28-2009, 11:48 AM
Yes but how can they estimate the Sunday gross yet everyone is taking it to heart. Variety seems to be predicting the future.
Sillypuddy
06-28-2009, 01:29 PM
Yes but how can they estimate the Sunday gross yet everyone is taking it to heart. Variety seems to be predicting the future.
Sunday grosses are always an estimate, but for some reason the estimate is always about 90-95% on the money....
201 Million is freaking phenominal!!! That is an OMG number!!!
I will be contributing another $20 this evening....wow..201!!!!!!!!!!
Mech_1000
06-28-2009, 01:30 PM
The movies opening weekend is $112,000,000, Saturday it made $40,600,000, and Sunday made $34,600,000. All together on 5 days it made $201,246,000. And we will find out how much it made on Foreign later, I think.
Its all estimated right now. Sunday has just begun and they already gave it a total :wtf
brAnd7onX
06-28-2009, 01:40 PM
Its all estimated right now. Sunday has just begun and they already gave it a total :wtf
I have never seen boxofficemojo stray more than $2 million off from its estimates...
darthrage
06-28-2009, 01:40 PM
estimates can be off by 1 milllion or a little bit but not that much off
its too bad it didn't beat Dark Knight
BUT THE MOVIE STILL ROCKS and it already made its budget
Congrats to Michael Bay, ILM, the cast and crew
Jason Gould
06-28-2009, 04:02 PM
According to Worstpreviews.com the movie has made $387 million world wide, check it out for your self. http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=14041&count=0
halofan1
06-28-2009, 04:06 PM
THE HURT LOCKER had the best on screen average. :D That made me happy.
I'm sure the actual's might be a bit better for both, but we'll see.
scalan15
06-28-2009, 04:57 PM
YUP, I think $387,000,000 WORLDWIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is confirmed!!!!
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/transformers-2-midnights-16-million/
nelson
06-28-2009, 08:00 PM
THE HURT LOCKER had the best on screen average. :D That made me happy.
I'm sure the actual's might be a bit better for both, but we'll see.
The Hurt locker will make back it's catering budget after 7 years.
:p
carlpickard
06-28-2009, 08:27 PM
The Hurt locker will make back it's catering budget after 7 years.
:p
From Rotten Tomatoes:
The Hurt Locker - 96% (http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/hurt_locker/)
"Consensus: A well-acted, intensely shot, action filled war epic, Kathryn Bigelow's The Hurt Locker is thus far the best of the recent dramatizations of the Iraq War."
Revenge of the Fallen - 21% (http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen/)
"Consensus: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is a noisy, underplotted, and overlong special effects extravaganza that lacks a human touch."
I have a question Nelson, in all seriousness: Do you personally believe that, with the prevalence of reality TV, the rise of "celebrity culture" and the illiteracy rate seemingly also on the increase, that society is getting dumber?
darthrage
06-28-2009, 08:54 PM
the hurt locker will make back it's catering budget after 7 years.
:p
hahahaaa! :d
razgriz21
06-28-2009, 09:26 PM
YUP, I think $387,000,000 WORLDWIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is confirmed!!!!
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/transformers-2-midnights-16-million/
Wow.:eek:
halofan1
06-28-2009, 10:48 PM
The Hurt locker will make back it's catering budget after 7 years.
:p
I'm sorry, which movie is getting good word of mouth while the other is getting crapped on by audiences?
Yeah, that's what I thought. ;)
vittaldadambbs
06-29-2009, 12:57 AM
We made it happen guys . the BOX OFFICE for 5 days reached 201mln!!!
thanks for all the people who made it happen!!!!
ChozoGhost87
06-29-2009, 04:15 AM
I have a question Nelson, in all seriousness: Do you personally believe that, with the prevalence of reality TV, the rise of "celebrity culture" and the illiteracy rate seemingly also on the increase, that society is getting dumber?
Nope. People just like being entertained, and that's exactly what RoTF does. Get off your high horse.
nelson
06-29-2009, 05:41 AM
I'm sorry, which movie is getting good word of mouth while the other is getting crapped on by audiences?
Yeah, that's what I thought. ;)
Where are you getting this fictitious "bad word of mouth facts?"
One is being praised by critics which doesn't mean jack.
Critics don't equal bad word of mouth.
Haters don't equal bad word of mouth.
You speak like this movie tanked like the first Hulk movie.
Here is the internal exit polling done by Paramount:
Paramount's national exit polling revealed several notable facts. While the first "Transformers" film, released in 2007, skewed 60-40 toward men over women, the split in the new film was more even at 54% male, 46% female. More than 90% of those surveyed said the new movie was as good as or better than the first film. About 67% of moviegoers polled said the film was "excellent," an even better score than that generated by Paramount's "Star Trek," one of the year's best-reviewed movies.Maybe you should stop foaming at the mouth and realized that people just *liked* this movie.
guitarded
06-29-2009, 06:41 AM
ahh, some things never change here:)
I took the family to see the movie yesterday, and all the shows were soldout!
I'll be going to see it again very soon!
Andreas
06-29-2009, 08:38 AM
I can report that RotF is the number one film here in Sweden!
1. Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
2. The Proposal
3. The Hangover
4. Johan Falk (Swedish)
5. Terminator Salvation
6. Angels & Demons
7. Drag Me To Hell
8. A Night At The Museum 2
9. Män Som Hatar Kvinnor (Swedish)
10. My Bloody Valentine (3D)
Over 100,000 Swedes have seen RotF since its premiere on June 23.
Sweden loves ya, Michael!
carlpickard
06-29-2009, 09:51 AM
One is being praised by critics which doesn't mean jack.
It means it's widely regarded as a good movie by people whose job is to write (and know) about cinema...
Here is the internal exit polling done by Paramount:
"Internal exit polling"? I dare say that's as reliable as what's coming out of Iran. :rolleyes:
alexsm
06-29-2009, 10:54 AM
It means it's widely regarded as a good movie by people whose job is to write (and know) about cinema...
"Internal exit polling"? I dare say that's as reliable as what's coming out of Iran. :rolleyes:
IMDB still says nearly 70% people gives the movie 7 or higher.
And critics are just like you or me, they usually don't know about cinema more than any other person wich likes cinema.
halofan1
06-29-2009, 11:14 AM
Where are you getting this fictitious "bad word of mouth facts?"
One is being praised by critics which doesn't mean jack.
Box office does not equal quality. TWILIGHT making so much money should prove that.
Maybe you should stop foaming at the mouth and realized that people just *liked* this movie.
Maybe you should practice what you preach. I didn't hate this movie, and I LIKED PARTS OF IT but the script is trash (so is ID4, but I still love it.) Also, Megan Fox was only pretty to look at and couldn't act at all.
I've never once said anywhere I hated this movie, but just that to me (and others) it was a disappointment.
nelson
06-29-2009, 11:21 AM
It means it's widely regarded as a good movie by people whose job is to write (and know) about cinema...
Considering that 99.99% of film critics don't even know how to operate a camera or write an entertaining script there opinions are worthless.
It's like taking advice from some who is a wannabe surgeon as opposed to a real one who has performed a lot of successful surgeries.
UltimatePrime
06-29-2009, 11:40 AM
I like what Bay is quoted as saying in L.A. Times:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-bay29-2009jun29,0,6806652.story
"I think they reviewed the wrong movie. They just don't understand the movie and its audience. It's silly fun," Bay said over the weekend of the many "Transformers" critical detractors. "I am convinced that they are born with the anti-fun gene."
He's right. It's a movie that is to entertain, to appeal to our inner child on a nostalgic level. If people went into this movie and were entertained, reminiscent, or were introducing new fans to the Transformer franchise (like I've done with my kids :D) then Michael Bay has done his job, and he did an amazing one at that.
Critics are not worth squat to me.
ChozoGhost87
06-29-2009, 12:08 PM
Also, Megan Fox was only pretty to look at and couldn't act at all.
:deadhorse1:
It's funny people say this. I think she's a pretty average actress to be honest; not good, not bad. I was quite impressed with her acting during the "i love you" part at the end though.
UltimatePrime
06-29-2009, 12:16 PM
:deadhorse1:
It's funny people say this. I think she's a pretty average actress to be honest; not good, not bad. I was quite impressed with her acting during the "i love you" part at the end though.
As was I. I thought she did much better in this second film than the first. It didn't seem as forced as the first one, to me. She seemed more relaxed or something.
scalan15
06-29-2009, 12:22 PM
I'm 33 years old, Married with a 1 year old, I grew up on the Generation 1 Series, I LOVED that series, I still remember crying when Optimus Prime Died in the original animated movie, when I heard the first Transformers movie was coming out, I couldn't wait, I loved Michael Bay's previous films, I even loved "the Island", The first Transformers film was awesome, I've been following the filming of ROTF since it was announced, I even stopped by the filming in Princeton since it is 5 minutes down the road from me, I consider myself a hardcore fan of the mythology, I have the whole G1 Collection in my attic, I also bought all of the ROTF toys before the movie came out, I have seen ROTF 3 times since it came out, all in IMAX, I have just one word for the movie.....
EPIC
I LOVED IT!!!
spoiler.....
when Optimus died, it brought a tear to my eye, reminded me of my youth when I saw the first animated movie, I knew he would be back but it was still emotional. that reason alone is why I think this movie will generate a ton of repeat viewers, I could easily watch it a few more times, I just have to find some friends to see it with, I don't like going to the movies alone. I think this movie will earn somewhere between $500 to $550 Million domestically, and will hit 1 Billion worldwide when it's done.
carlpickard
06-29-2009, 01:04 PM
Considering that 99.99% of film critics don't even know how to operate a camera or write an entertaining script there opinions are worthless.
So by that logic - the opinions of every single poster on this message board are worthless.
How about my earlier question Nelson? Society getting dumber?
Paesandon
06-29-2009, 03:09 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i2c0d30928617f5ec8d85a5d2ba00e1ef
As of today, Transformers has grossed $201 million domestically for the 1st 5 days of showing!!!! That is only 2 million behind Dark Knight incredible $203 million from last year!!!
This movie is well on pace to eclipse the $400 million mark within another week (especially with 4th of July weekend coming up) and probalby the $1 Billion mark worldwide!!!!
I just wanted to personally thank Michael Bay, Robert Orci, and Alex Kurtzman for taking the time and effort to write and produce such an epic film of this caliber. Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is another awesome addition to the Transformers legacy, and makes hardcore fans like myself so happy, and brings the young boy out of me, the boy who loved watching G1 Transformers everyday after school, or transforming his G1 Optimus Prime toy until it broke. It brings back childhood memories, and helps me escape to another place and just feel so great when things arent going great.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Cannot wait till T3 in 2012. Have scene this movie twice already, going again this weekend, possibly 2 more times!!!!
:)
chops
06-29-2009, 03:33 PM
People were anxious to see it and that's why it made so much so fast. Don't expect the numbers to hold steady. It will drop like Prime dropped the Fallen - very fast!
Inflataman
06-29-2009, 04:42 PM
It'll drop because no movie can hold that kind of a ridiculous first weekend.
TIMtationX
06-29-2009, 07:09 PM
From Rotten Tomatoes:
The Hurt Locker - 96% (http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/hurt_locker/)
"Consensus: A well-acted, intensely shot, action filled war epic, Kathryn Bigelow's The Hurt Locker is thus far the best of the recent dramatizations of the Iraq War."
Revenge of the Fallen - 21% (http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen/)
"Consensus: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is a noisy, underplotted, and overlong special effects extravaganza that lacks a human touch."
I have a question Nelson, in all seriousness: Do you personally believe that, with the prevalence of reality TV, the rise of "celebrity culture" and the illiteracy rate seemingly also on the increase, that society is getting dumber?
Are you trying to say that if a critics hate a movie, and people still go see that movie, they're somehow not as smart?
Sillypuddy
06-29-2009, 08:08 PM
It'll drop because no movie can hold that kind of a ridiculous first weekend.
it wil do 50 million this weekend....sail past 300 million in the US and continue past 400 two weeks later.......this is from the guy who was convinced 350 million might be possible.....lol!!
Jason Gould
06-30-2009, 02:55 PM
Worldwide is now $419,350,220. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers2.htm
darthrage
06-30-2009, 02:59 PM
I want this movie to do Spider-Man and Pirates Sequel numbers if not Dark Knight numbers (hopefully)
Mech_1000
06-30-2009, 03:00 PM
Looks like ROTF scored about 14M on monday's box office. Pretty good for a week day :D
alexsm
06-30-2009, 03:57 PM
Looks like ROTF scored about 14M on monday's box office. Pretty good for a week day :D
It sufferd less first Sunday-Monday drop than the first one.
alexsm
06-30-2009, 04:03 PM
Now ROTF is the 100th grossing movie all time worldwide, after 6 days
419 Million $
Firefrost
06-30-2009, 05:45 PM
I still think there are many people holding out to see it again until it calms down. I went Saturday afternoon and it was still nuts. I'm going to wait until this weekend to see it on the real IMAX
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i2c0d30928617f5ec8d85a5d2ba00e1ef
As of today, Transformers has grossed $201 million domestically for the 1st 5 days of showing!!!! That is only 2 million behind Dark Knight incredible $203 million from last year!!!
This movie is well on pace to eclipse the $400 million mark within another week (especially with 4th of July weekend coming up) and probalby the $1 Billion mark worldwide!!!!
:)
And in Canada, we have July 1 off for Canada Day so the theatres will be full as well.
xSoundwave
06-30-2009, 09:23 PM
I'm guessing the box office numbers will continue to be fairly big next week as it's Independence Day weekend and there will be plenty of people out seeing movies. Plus, no real competition.
UltimatePrime
06-30-2009, 11:34 PM
14 mill for a weekday is pretty good!
If it was to hold 14 mill per day from yesterday to next Sunday, that's another 98 mill!
I would love that!
berrycoolz
07-01-2009, 05:39 PM
6/30 Tuesday's Box Office Total: $30.3 Million
US $13.5
International $16.8
chops
07-01-2009, 09:49 PM
Box office does not equal quality. TWILIGHT making so much money should prove that.
Maybe you should practice what you preach. I didn't hate this movie, and I LIKED PARTS OF IT but the script is trash (so is ID4, but I still love it.) Also, Megan Fox was only pretty to look at and couldn't act at all.
I've never once said anywhere I hated this movie, but just that to me (and others) it was a disappointment.
I agree that the script needed much help it was still entertaining. and screw the critics. they are afraid to say a Michael Bay movie based on Transformers with Hasbro is good because of how others in the industry will look at them. I never pay any attention to critics except for specific ones that like the same things I do. Their opinion matters to me. The ones I trust. I go to sci-fi websites for reviews for sci-fi movies. fantasy movies reviews from a fantasy site etc. Not rotten tomatoes lol that dumb ass site.
scalan15
07-02-2009, 03:48 PM
ICE AGE: DAWN OF THE DINOSAURS took in $13,791,157 on Wednesday
TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN took in $10,939,131
not bad considering it was Ice Age's opening day
Firefrost
07-02-2009, 04:27 PM
I'm going to the real IMAX tonight so I'll see how the crowd is holding up here in Orlando. Most people are getting tomorrow off so I think it might be another good weekend for numbers. I'm also going with two people that have not seen because they were waiting until the crowds die a bit and all the people I went with opening night want to go back this weekend. It's not over yet!
transfrominside
07-02-2009, 07:53 PM
SO how much is the worldwide box office right now?
Mech_1000
07-02-2009, 08:08 PM
SO how much is the worldwide box office right now?
474.8 Million
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers2.htm
Firefrost
07-02-2009, 10:21 PM
I said I would give an update when I got back. When we walked into the only real IMAX in Orlando for the 7pm showing it was 75% full at 6:45pm. By the time the movie started, people were turning away because there were no seats. I don't know if they were over selling or what. There were alot of mofos there though :p
taybrian1
07-02-2009, 10:33 PM
I stopped caring about box office totals because someone is always going to diss you no matter how much it makes.
Firefrost
07-02-2009, 10:36 PM
I stopped caring about box office totals because someone is always going to diss you no matter how much it makes.
I agree, but I love watching the nay sayers underestimate the power of coolness :D
Sonya
07-02-2009, 10:54 PM
I agree, but I love watching the nay sayers underestimate the power of coolness :D
Yah. It brings a smile to my face.:)
halofan1
07-03-2009, 12:08 AM
I hate a world where The Wrong Michael can win at the box office.
razgriz21
07-03-2009, 12:18 AM
I'm a bit irked that the new Ice Age movie is getting good press and box office.:rolleyes:
Unimpressive.
halofan1
07-03-2009, 12:26 AM
I'm a bit irked that the new Ice Age movie is getting good press and box office.:rolleyes:
Unimpressive.
Simon Pegg makes it worth it.
razgriz21
07-03-2009, 12:28 AM
^^^Fox is no Pixar and I can get Simon Pegg in better movies (Hot Fuzz, Star Trek, etc).
Hope Transformers 2 can rebound. Cannot let Fox win.
halofan1
07-03-2009, 12:28 AM
^^^Fox is no Pixar and I can get Simon Pegg in better movies (Hot Fuzz, Star Trek, etc).
I never said it was even close to being as great as UP now. ;)
Jason Gould
07-03-2009, 03:11 PM
Transformers Revenge Of The Fallen beats Ice Age Dawn Of The Dinosaurs on Thursday. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/
Hase0
07-03-2009, 10:33 PM
woww , still going strong :cool:
pattoncanby
07-04-2009, 11:47 AM
I watched it again at the Burbank(CA.) AMC theatres(IMAX) at 9am.....it was almost packed. The night shows were sold out.
I hope Transformers will really do well Saturday.....
The media are really ganging up on Bay's movie. Im not stupid how political and corrupt they operate raving about Ice Age and Public Enemies so Transformers is off the radar. It's my third time to watch Transformers and I will watch it again. In all the theatres I went to at the end there were lots of cheers and applause for the movie.
I feel sick to read bloggers taking aim at our military because of Bay and Transformers. I take this personal because my boyfriend is in
Iraq right now and many of his band of brothers.
Its America's Birthday and some idiotic brats really need to step back and appreciate what our country and troops do for us.
razgriz21
07-04-2009, 02:54 PM
I appreciate the military support and I don't pay too much attention to those who rag on them. I agree pattoncanby.
ChozoGhost87
07-04-2009, 03:45 PM
I watched it again at the Burbank(CA.) AMC theatres(IMAX) at 9am.....it was almost packed. The night shows were sold out.
I hope Transformers will really do well Saturday.....
The media are really ganging up on Bay's movie. Im not stupid how political and corrupt they operate raving about Ice Age and Public Enemies so Transformers is off the radar. It's my third time to watch Transformers and I will watch it again. In all the theatres I went to at the end there were lots of cheers and applause for the movie.
I feel sick to read bloggers taking aim at our military because of Bay and Transformers. I take this personal because my boyfriend is in
Iraq right now and many of his band of brothers.
Its America's Birthday and some idiotic brats really need to step back and appreciate what our country and troops do for us.
Agreed. I think it's pretty sad when someone criticizes TF2 for portraying the military in a positive light.
Firefrost
07-04-2009, 05:34 PM
Agreed. I think it's pretty sad when someone criticizes TF2 for portraying the military in a positive light.
Everyone needs something to bitch about. The critics are freaking out because their elaborate plan is failing miserably and they are swatting at flies now.
xSoundwave
07-04-2009, 06:00 PM
Good to see RoTF outperforming Ice Age at the box office, even though it's newly released.
Hase0
07-04-2009, 08:26 PM
yea 2 days in a row now :rolleyes:
halofan1
07-05-2009, 09:01 AM
People who are complaining about the military use in this movie are bitching just to bitch.
vittaldadambbs
07-05-2009, 10:09 AM
10 days at box office and already breaking most of the records
Domestic: $268,737,000 {52.8%} + Foreign: $240,178,819 {47.2%} = Worldwide: $508,915,819
Jason Gould
07-05-2009, 12:15 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers2.htm
TOTAL LIFETIME GROSSES Domestic: $293,459,000 49.6% + Foreign: (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=transformers2.htm) $298,000,000 50.4% = Worldwide: $591,459,000
Where are you getting this fictitious "bad word of mouth facts?"
One is being praised by critics which doesn't mean jack.
Critics don't equal bad word of mouth.
Haters don't equal bad word of mouth.
You speak like this movie tanked like the first Hulk movie.
Here is the internal exit polling done by Paramount:
Maybe you should stop foaming at the mouth and realized that people just *liked* this movie.
I wouldnt waste my time dude. This is the same guy that insulted me for calling him out of his bullshit when the first movie came out. He actually doubted the first one would make as much money as Bad Boys 2, clueless then, clueless now. Way to go self proclaimed movie critic. Maybe he'll get it right by the time the third one rolls out.
halofan1
07-05-2009, 12:56 PM
I wouldnt waste my time dude. This is the same guy that insulted me for calling him out of his bullshit when the first movie came out. He actually doubted the first one would make as much money as Bad Boys 2, clueless then, clueless now. Way to go self proclaimed movie critic. Maybe he'll get it right by the time the third one rolls out.
Are you seriously talking about me? Because there's so much wrong here it's not even funny.
halofan1
07-05-2009, 01:16 PM
What is?
I'm almost 100% sure I never said the first film wouldn't make as much as Bad Boys II. And unless you or nelson can provide proof, I'm inclined to say you're full of shit.
I'm almost 100% sure I never said the first film wouldn't make as much as Bad Boys II. And unless you or nelson can provide proof, I'm inclined to say you're full of shit.
LMAO sure dude, how convenient, you're not sure, but I am, I'll give you the short version, you said TF1 wouldnt pass Bad Boys 2 because of the "bad word of mouth from the TF fanbase" regarding the robot designs, this was about 2-3 weeks before release day, I said you were clueless and that, TF1 could pass Armageddon, as Bay's highest grossing film, your comeback was an insult and some random rant.
halofan1
07-05-2009, 01:33 PM
LMAO sure dude, how convenient, you're not sure, but I am, I'll give you the short version, you said TF1 wouldnt pass Bad Boys 2 because of the "bad word of mouth from the TF fanbase" regarding the robot designs, this was about 2-3 weeks before release day, I said you were clueless and that, TF1 could pass Armageddon, as Bay's highest grossing film, your comeback was an insult and some random rant.
So it was BEFORE release? Not after? Again, BEFORE, when everyone outside of the visitors here were bitching about the designs and Michael Bay?
So it was BEFORE release? Not after? Again, BEFORE, when everyone outside of the visitors here were bitching about the designs and Michael Bay?
Yes, and you used that as gospel instead of common sense to back your points up, by this time they had also posted that TF1 was getting higher test screening scores than Armageddon, 94-96% or something crazy like, going off on memory, so what's the difference? You were wrong about Box Office numbers before release on the first one, and now you're wrong about Box Office numbers after release on the second one.
halofan1
07-05-2009, 01:47 PM
Yes, and you used that as gospel instead of common sense to back your points up, by this time they had also posted that TF1 was getting higher test screening scores than Armageddon, 94-96% or something crazy like, going off on memory, so what's the difference? You were wrong about Box Office numbers before release on the first one, and now you're wrong about Box Office numbers after release on the second one.
At the time I didn't think it would have performed so strongly. Then I saw it at 8:00 PM the night before it's actual "opening day" and saw how crowded the theaters were. So as amazing as it may seem, there was a change, but again my opinion was BEFORE release. On a side note, I ended up seeing the first film 12 times in theaters.
I'm ready to admit I was wrong about the B.O. for this. It put up a good fight and I assume general audiences are taking it well. Also, if you actually read my review and some of my postings, I didn't exactly hate the film.
But then again, people here seem to only focus on the negative things of what I say, so I suppose me admitting I was wrong will be swept under the rug.
At the time I didn't think it would have performed so strongly. Then I saw it at 8:00 PM the night before it's actual "opening day" and saw how crowded the theaters were. So as amazing as it may seem, there was a change, but again my opinion was BEFORE release. On a side note, I ended up seeing the first film 12 times in theaters.
I'm ready to admit I was wrong about the B.O. for this. It put up a good fight and I assume general audiences are taking it well. Also, if you actually read my review and some of my postings, I didn't exactly hate the film.
But then again, people here seem to only focus on the negative things of what I say, so I suppose me admitting I was wrong will be swept under the rug.
Not really, I speak only for myself, I think when someone is willing to admit that they are wrong shows alot about them. I dont need to read your review, because I'm not here to defend the movie from critics, this is the B.O. thread after all.
halofan1
07-05-2009, 02:07 PM
Not really, I speak only for myself, I think when someone is willing to admit that they are wrong shows alot about them. I dont need to read your review, because I'm not here to defend the movie from critics, this is the B.O. thread after all.
Good point. It had a large drop off, but still, it was number one so I was wrong. Guess audiences are enjoying the film better than I thought.
Firefrost
07-05-2009, 02:18 PM
Good point. It had a large drop off, but still, it was number one so I was wrong. Guess audiences are enjoying the film better than I thought.
I also think many people are taking the advice to see it again because it's too much to take in for one viewing
I also think many people are taking the advice to see it again because it's too much to take in for one viewing
It is way to much to see once. I enjoyed it more the second and even more the third. Just a little to much action going on to see everything one time through. It was like shell shock,. lol
:lol
taybrian1
07-05-2009, 05:24 PM
It's a tie! Transformers and Ice Age have a tie for number one this week. That is freaking hilarious!
TIMtationX
07-05-2009, 05:37 PM
It's a tie! Transformers and Ice Age have a tie for number one this week. That is freaking hilarious!
And that's only the estimate. TF2 could still end up #1 after final numbers come out.
halofan1
07-05-2009, 07:17 PM
Well, The Wrong Michael may have won the Box Office but...
..The Hurt Locker still has the best per screen average. :P
darthrage
07-05-2009, 08:10 PM
ROTF is doing what the first movie did in half the amount of time
we can expect ROTF to do Spider-Man 2 and POTC:DMC numbers at the end of it's theatrical run
halofan1
07-05-2009, 09:37 PM
I'll predict $350M-$375 by the end of it's run.
vittaldadambbs
07-05-2009, 10:53 PM
12 days at box office and already breaking most of the records
Domestic: $293,459,000 49.6% + Foreign: $298,000,000 50.4% = Worldwide: $591,459,000
I'll predict $350M-$375 by the end of it's run.
I hope that is your domestic total because it has already surpassed that total easily worldwide.
taybrian1
07-05-2009, 11:30 PM
I can't believe IMDB. It was obviously a tie between ROTF and Ice Age, and yet they gave Ice Age the top spot. Idiots.
halofan1
07-06-2009, 12:14 AM
I hope that is your domestic total because it has already surpassed that total easily worldwide.
No, it's my galaxy wide total. :P
Mech_1000
07-06-2009, 12:16 AM
I think it might have a record for domestic total. However... The new Harry Potter is coming out and that seems to clear 800M to damn near a billion per theatrical showing.
taybrian1
07-06-2009, 12:36 PM
I just read the real amounts for the weekend. TF won!
Dave_6
07-06-2009, 12:55 PM
I just read the real amounts for the weekend. TF won!
Awesome!
Jason Gould
07-06-2009, 01:42 PM
Transformers 2 is # 1 again.
vittaldadambbs
07-07-2009, 11:21 PM
13 days at BOX OFFICE:
Domestic: $299,762,339 49.3% + Foreign: $307,921,442 50.7% = Worldwide: $607,683,781
Trailbreaker
07-07-2009, 11:35 PM
13 days at BOX OFFICE:
Domestic: $299,762,339 49.3% + Foreign: $307,921,442 50.7% = Worldwide: $607,683,781
It now ranks #42 in highest grossing films. Impressive...most impressive. :cool:
Trailbreaker
07-07-2009, 11:42 PM
I'm loving these numbers:
Worldwide Highest Grossing film of all time: #42
Biggest Opening Weekend Gross of all time: #7!
Biggest Opening Day Gross of all time: #2!
Highest Grossing Film in 2009: #1!!!!
vittaldadambbs
07-09-2009, 10:30 AM
FORTNIGHT at BOX OFFICE and seems like its getting UNSTABLE:
Domestic: $305,522,774 49.0% + Foreign: $317,465,807 51.0% = Worldwide: $622,988,581
BEAT THIS!!!!!!!!
Sillypuddy
07-12-2009, 02:41 PM
385 million to 410 million domestic should be where it settles into....750-850 world wide seems about right....
Bayhem
07-12-2009, 04:31 PM
My God, I just saw the latest box office results and "Revenge of the Fallen" is already the 16th ( THE 16TH!!! ) most successful film of all time, domestically.
Simply incredible!
megatron42
07-12-2009, 07:27 PM
looks like bruno is in the #1 spot.. will be a temp thing
ROTF in third bruno makes $30.4 million.
The Last Autobot
07-12-2009, 07:30 PM
Bruno. Lol.
"I've given him a traditional African name....."
Talk about putting the twins on a back burner....
razgriz21
07-12-2009, 09:59 PM
^^^Finally, the bickering folks will have a new scapegoat and let us enjoy robotic carnage along with military and Megan Fox action.
I don't care about financial material, but I'm glad Transformers 2 is making bank. Just wait till DVD and Blu-Ray.
taybrian1
07-13-2009, 12:07 AM
Bruno may have won this week, but it did no where near as well as ROTF.
aravind221
07-13-2009, 04:04 AM
the movie is jam packed in INDIA and is doing well in box office despite of the late release , here on july 11 th , i saw it yesterday late night show and it was jam packed , once again micheal bay gives a great epic sequel
just wanna give a update from India itz doing pretty cool here
M.r bay u rock for ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):)
sideswipe2005
07-13-2009, 06:54 AM
the movie is jam packed in INDIA and is doing well in box office despite of the late release , here on july 11 th , i saw it yesterday late night show and it was jam packed , once again micheal bay gives a great epic sequel
just wanna give a update from India itz doing pretty cool here
M.r bay u rock for ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):)
Good to hear it;s going well in India. I was looking at some stats on Box office mojo and Japan has fallen way short (approx $14m) compared to the first film (aprrox $34m). They even had the world premiere there and you would think that alone would generate enough to get people into the theatre but not so. Come on Japan, it;s not too late to see the best and biggest film in 2009 ! Any ideas on why Sora (you are from Japan right) ?
Good to hear it;s going well in India. I was looking at some stats on Box office mojo and Japan has fallen way short (approx $14m) compared to the first film (aprrox $34m). They even had the world premiere there and you would think that alone would generate enough to get people into the theatre but not so. Come on Japan, it;s not too late to see the best and biggest film in 2009 ! Any ideas on why Sora (you are from Japan right) ?
Yeah, it's a shame. Possible causes are,
- June isn't the holiday season here, young moviegoers are busy with exams. The blockbuster season in Japan is from mid July to late August.
- There are strong competitors these weeks. Rookies, Evangelion, and Gokusen. Those three are based on very popular TV series, a flood of TV spots each and every day.
- Paramount Japan is still advertising this franchise as a Sci-Fi disaster film like 'War of the Worlds'. Most of average audiences don't realize this is the story about well-known Convoy untill they see the film. Taglines are "The unknown invasion begins with transformation" and "New transformation begins with a revenge", those sound nonsensical even in Japanese. Their PR activities lack strong tie-ins with Takara Tomy and Hasbro. They apparently failed to promote Star Trek too. What Japanese distributors usually say are just "New!" "Scaled up!" and "A huge hit in the U.S.!".
However, the reaction from the audiences is very positive. People are purely enjoying the film and new IMAX theaters (we have only three IMAXs in the country) are working really well. I truly hope Paramount Japan will do a better job of PR next time.
vittaldadambbs
07-13-2009, 11:01 AM
19 days at the BOX OFFICE :
Domestic: $339,208,000 50.5% + Foreign: $333,094,317 49.5% = Worldwide: $672,302,317
Good to hear it;s going well in India. I was looking at some stats on Box office mojo and Japan has fallen way short (approx $14m) compared to the first film (aprrox $34m). They even had the world premiere there and you would think that alone would generate enough to get people into the theatre but not so. Come on Japan, it;s not too late to see the best and biggest film in 2009 ! Any ideas on why Sora (you are from Japan right) ?
I'm confident that China will overtake Japan's roll as one of the biggest box office markets. TF2 is already on it's way to make 65M+ there. :eek:
At the moment, TF2 is on it's way for a total gross of 405M. Hopefully the legs don't get chopped off when Harry P. arrives at the boxoffice on wednesday.
Japan might also be suffering severly from the recession and thus affecting the cinema business but that's just speculation on my part.
Japan might also be suffering severly from the recession and thus affecting the cinema business but that's just speculation on my part.
And the movie ticket is expensive in Japan. $18 for adult, $10 for kid/junior/senior and $20 for IMAX.
Therefore people tend to go see the movie adaptation of TV dramas they're familiar with and they can relate to.
Geez I feel like I'm making excuses like Starscream.
sideswipe2005
07-14-2009, 06:51 AM
And the movie ticket is expensive in Japan. $18 for adult, $10 for kid/junior/senior and $20 for IMAX.
Therefore people tend to go see the movie adaptation of TV dramas they're familiar with and they can relate to.
Geez I feel like I'm making excuses like Starscream.
If it makes you feel any better the prices in Australia are much more expensive $15 adults and $25 for Imax. But we love Transformers so much in Australia that prices dont matter. thats how we roll down in Australia :) **take note** Michael Bay next time have your world premiere for the third installment in Sydney.
jamjam101
07-14-2009, 09:31 AM
If it makes you feel any better the prices in Australia are much more expensive $15 adults and $25 for Imax. But we love Transformers so much in Australia that prices dont matter. thats how we roll down in Australia :) **take note** Michael Bay next time have your world premiere for the third installment in Sydney.
how about a premiere Canada? or a filming up here! Not too expensive up here. About 11.50 adult, 16.50 Imax. I guess its roughly the same in the US
vittaldadambbs
07-15-2009, 05:00 AM
20 days at BOX OFFICE and already grossed more than the first ONE :
Domestic: $342,305,825 48.1% + Foreign: $369,314,131 51.9% = Worldwide: $711,619,956
Bayhem
07-19-2009, 12:44 PM
Domestic: $363,867,000
Foreign: $383,058,021
= $ 746,925,021
I mean, just WOW!
Talk about a huge success.
taybrian1
07-19-2009, 01:22 PM
As of now, it's holding steady at number 3 in America. The movie that beat it last week, Bruno, was kicked down to 4.
brAnd7onX
07-19-2009, 10:50 PM
My Prediction
Final Numbers:
Domestic - $400,000,000
International - $440,000,000
Total - $840,000,000
Michael Do
07-20-2009, 09:22 AM
why haven't they update China's boxoffice gross? it was reported that rotf has earned $60M, beating Titanic record. If this were updated, the foreign gross would be over $400M.
Anyway, I just hope it does reach $800M or more by the end of it runs. Can't wait for the DVD/Bluray too!
Bayhem
07-20-2009, 01:06 PM
it was reported that rotf has earned $60M, beating Titanic record. If this were updated, the foreign gross would be over $400M.
I just saw the article and I honestly don't know what to say.
The movie definitely exceeded my personal expectation in terms of box office, and it really makes me happy that despite the critics and their "attempts" to bring the movie down.......the winner at the end of the day is still Mike Bay!
Job well done!
taybrian1
07-20-2009, 01:23 PM
I just saw the article and I honestly don't know what to say.
The movie definitely exceeded my personal expectation in terms of box office, and it really makes me happy that despite the critics and their "attempts" to bring the movie down.......the winner at the end of the day is still Mike Bay!
Job well done!
I think the winner is us. Mr. Bay made the movie for us and we proved that we are the true voices, not the critics. I'm so proud of my fellow fans I could just burst.
Jason Gould
07-20-2009, 02:25 PM
According to transformerslive.blogspot.com the movie has now made $766.8 worldwide.
http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2009/07/harry-potter-6-fails-to-beat.html
jamjam101
07-20-2009, 09:43 PM
i only want him to make movies for his fans, cuz thats the only thing that counts. Critics arnt going to force a sequel or a third TF, but the fans are.
Mech_1000
07-21-2009, 02:54 AM
For some reason I was just thinking this movie was going to do badly... happy to be wrong :D
razgriz21
07-21-2009, 08:50 AM
i only want him to make movies for his fans, cuz thats the only thing that counts. Critics arnt going to force a sequel or a third TF, but the fans are.
That is all that matters.
If no one else understands, that is too bad and there loss.
Trailbreaker
07-22-2009, 11:24 AM
It's gonna beat the original Star Wars pretty soon.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/
warhorse
07-23-2009, 07:38 PM
I just saw the article and I honestly don't know what to say.
The movie definitely exceeded my personal expectation in terms of box office, and it really makes me happy that despite the critics and their "attempts" to bring the movie down.......the winner at the end of the day is still Mike Bay!
Job well done!
I still think the critics were paid by Warner Brothers to bash Transformers. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I think it has something to do with egos, and the fact that Star Trek demolished Terminator Salvation (Star Trek by Paramount, Terminator Salvation by WB)
Trailbreaker
07-23-2009, 08:28 PM
I still think the critics were paid by Warner Brothers to bash Transformers. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I think it has something to do with egos, and the fact that Star Trek demolished Terminator Salvation (Star Trek by Paramount, Terminator Salvation by WB)
Hollyformers: Revenge of the Warner. :lol
warhorse
07-23-2009, 09:26 PM
Hollyformers: Revenge of the Warner. :lol
Well, think about it. Half of the online websites and newspapers are owned by Time Warner, who owns Warner Brothers.
Trailbreaker
07-23-2009, 09:28 PM
Well, think about it. Half of the online websites and newspapers are owned by Time Warner, who owns Warner Brothers.
It's a conspiracy!!!
warhorse
07-23-2009, 09:33 PM
It's a conspiracy!!!
Love my conspiracies. 1947 Roswell, Area 51, Lochness Monster, Big Foot, 2012!:D
wingzero
07-24-2009, 05:04 AM
It's a conspiracy!!!
Unfortunately it's business nowadays. Just look at Rupert Murdoch and its Sky/20thFOX and what he did in the UK...
Or look at the current worldwide financial crisis caused by bankers cheating and stealing.
You don't need to think about secret agencies and conspiracy theory to get that WarnerBros was behind if not all the critics attacking the Transformers franchise at least the majority of them. It happened in 2007 on a smaller scale and it happened now in an insane and quite obvious larger scale.
Anyway regarding Star Trek beating Terminator Salvation at box office.. no, that is not the reason. The Terminator franchise is currently still owned by WarnerBros and Halycon BUT Sony which distributes the movie and owns rights to the franchise it's highly likely going to win the trial and get full rights over the franchise. So what did WarnerBros actually do? Well, just what FOX Network did by cancelling the TSCC tv series despite the 'net worldwide demanding more episodes and DVD/Blu-Ray selling many copies. Then WarnerBros ensured Terminator4 to underperform, they mined its success by forcing it to be a PG-13 movie with a theatrical cut 40minutes shorter than what they actually filmed and finalized, and it's still unknown if the full version will be released on disc. And all of that just to attack Sony and lowering the value of the Terminator franchise as much as possible..
So.. go figure what WarnerBros could do to promote HarryPotter movies against Transformers ones... Yep... you got the critics reviews.. all writing the same bashing things and all doing that in the same way clearly following an agenda and a template they received and were ordered to follow.
This is the worst possible business using the worst possible methods.. unfortunately almost everyone does it but FOX and WarnerBros seem to be the best ones at it...
warhorse
07-24-2009, 09:33 PM
Unfortunately it's business nowadays. Just look at Rupert Murdoch and its Sky/20thFOX and what he did in the UK...
Or look at the current worldwide financial crisis caused by bankers cheating and stealing.
You don't need to think about secret agencies and conspiracy theory to get that WarnerBros was behind if not all the critics attacking the Transformers franchise at least the majority of them. It happened in 2007 on a smaller scale and it happened now in an insane and quite obvious larger scale.
Anyway regarding Star Trek beating Terminator Salvation at box office.. no, that is not the reason. The Terminator franchise is currently still owned by WarnerBros and Halycon BUT Sony which distributes the movie and owns rights to the franchise it's highly likely going to win the trial and get full rights over the franchise. So what did WarnerBros actually do? Well, just what FOX Network did by cancelling the TSCC tv series despite the 'net worldwide demanding more episodes and DVD/Blu-Ray selling many copies. Then WarnerBros ensured Terminator4 to underperform, they mined its success by forcing it to be a PG-13 movie with a theatrical cut 40minutes shorter than what they actually filmed and finalized, and it's still unknown if the full version will be released on disc. And all of that just to attack Sony and lowering the value of the Terminator franchise as much as possible..
So.. go figure what WarnerBros could do to promote HarryPotter movies against Transformers ones... Yep... you got the critics reviews.. all writing the same bashing things and all doing that in the same way clearly following an agenda and a template they received and were ordered to follow.
This is the worst possible business using the worst possible methods.. unfortunately almost everyone does it but FOX and WarnerBros seem to be the best ones at it...
Nice to see someone gets it. And it's not only the critics that are bought and paid for, but the awards too. You really can honestly be a professional and pick the Golden Compass for best visuals over Transformers or POTC? GTFO! And they give this boloney that the Golden Compass was more difficult. Well, if it was, then why did it lose to Transformers in the official awards show designated for best visual effects?
Trailbreaker
07-24-2009, 09:47 PM
Well, if it was, then why did it lose to Transformers in the official awards show designated for best visual effects?
Because Transformers had...the best visual effects. :D
razgriz21
07-25-2009, 12:32 AM
Nice to see someone gets it. And it's not only the critics that are bought and paid for, but the awards too. You really can honestly be a professional and pick the Golden Compass for best visuals over Transformers or POTC? GTFO! And they give this boloney that the Golden Compass was more difficult. Well, if it was, then why did it lose to Transformers in the official awards show designated for best visual effects?
The academy must of been bribed or been on drugs.
Maybe both.
warhorse
07-25-2009, 06:26 AM
The academy must of been bribed or been on drugs.
Maybe both.
Definitely bribed during the 2007 oscars. They were on drugs when they picked Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan for best picture. What a bunch of bull shit.
Hey, speaking of which, how many times has Steven Spielberg, definitely one of the greatest directors of all time, (in my opinion, he is the best, because he can do anything, all the other directors stick with one formula and do not change) has gotten the shaft from the Academy Awards for years! He should have gotten something from the start with Duel! But Jaws was incredible!
Bayhem
07-26-2009, 12:30 PM
Well, congratulations are in order - "Revenge of the Fallen" is already on the Top 10 list of most successful films of all times.
Absolutely incredible!
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm
Congratulations, Bay!
Jason Gould
07-26-2009, 01:46 PM
Great, we will congratulate him again when the movie reaches the the $400 million mark.
megatron42
07-26-2009, 02:34 PM
congrats michael
Michael Do
07-26-2009, 07:01 PM
awesome Mike.
warhorse
07-27-2009, 01:32 AM
I bet the critics are hating this now!
Bayhem
07-27-2009, 01:59 AM
I bet the critics are hating this now!
To say the least.
Michael Do
07-27-2009, 10:44 AM
the production went up to $250M at BoxOfficeMojo o.O
Bayhem
07-27-2009, 11:49 AM
the production went up to $250M at BoxOfficeMojo o.O
Hmm, you're right.
Someone out there is not happy with the success of the movie and he's literally making stuff up.
I mean, the entire planet knows for sure that the budget was $200 million ( $196 million to be exact ).....but I guess we have to consider the fact that IMDb ( yes, I hate that website too ) owns BoxOfficeMojo and we all know what that means.
Dear IMDb, people are well aware that you hate Michael Bay and anything that has to do with Michael Bay but for God's sake, don't be so obvious.
Trailbreaker
07-27-2009, 02:02 PM
Hmm, you're right.
Someone out there is not happy with the success of the movie and he's literally making stuff up.
I mean, the entire planet knows for sure that the budget was $200 million ( $196 million to be exact ).....but I guess we have to consider the fact that IMDb ( yes, I hate that website too ) owns BoxOfficeMojo and we all know what that means.
Dear IMDb, people are well aware that you hate Michael Bay and anything that has to do with Michael Bay but for God's sake, don't be so obvious.
Considering IMDb's affiliation with Amazon.com, I bet the customer reviews for the DVD and Blu-Ray on Amazon.com are going to be rather low.
alexsm
07-27-2009, 03:53 PM
Well, real worldwide Box Office is now over $820M due to the at least $30M that box office mojo is not counting on China and the rest of the not updated countries.
Mech_1000
07-28-2009, 07:18 PM
Top 9 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm) All Time Domestic!
It might just be able to claim Spider Man's #8
Well, real worldwide Box Office is now over $820M due to the at least $30M that box office mojo is not counting on China and the rest of the not updated countries.
What are you talking about? China has been counted for over a week now. The only countries not reporting so far are the following; Cyprus, India, Serbia and Montenegro.
taybrian1
07-29-2009, 01:04 PM
It's good to know these numbers. I know for a fact that I am going to get so much crap from my extended family about being a TF fan when I'm camping with them, so it's good to have a little bit of ammo against them!
Hase0
07-30-2009, 10:14 PM
What are you talking about? China has been counted for over a week now. The only countries not reporting so far are the following; Cyprus, India, Serbia and Montenegro.
so what is the actual gross ?
prediction maybe ?
dragon
07-31-2009, 12:30 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=transformers2.htm
Worldwide: $800,402,546
you rock m. bay looking forward to your return for number 3
Jason Gould
07-31-2009, 12:32 PM
Transformers Revenge Of The Fallen has official made $800 million worldwide. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers2.htm
Bayhem
07-31-2009, 04:07 PM
Transformers Revenge Of The Fallen has official made $800 million worldwide
Great news!
I'm really happy for Mike and the crew.
taybrian1
07-31-2009, 08:31 PM
Holy crap, that is a buttload of money.
warhorse
07-31-2009, 11:46 PM
Box Office mojo went back to reporting Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen production cost to 200 million again. That site is pretty screwy!
Bayhem
08-01-2009, 02:18 AM
That site is pretty screwy!
Of course it's screwy, it's part of IMDb.
warhorse
08-01-2009, 10:16 AM
Does WB own IMDb. I ask because a couple of people I know who had memberships on the site said some not so nice things about TDK, and they had their account deleted. So, I'm just wondering.
I also wonder how many critics work for news papers and other online sites that are owned by Time Warner.
Dynasty
08-01-2009, 11:10 AM
Of course it's screwy, it's part of IMDb.
Seconded. It's ridiculous half the time. I used to think it was either fan submissions that weren't right- or caught by the mods, or malicious people... but I dunno, it's so awry! Random people listed as cast for things they never touched etc.
Trailbreaker
08-01-2009, 11:15 AM
Does WB own IMDb. I ask because a couple of people I know who had memberships on the site said some not so nice things about TDK, and they had their account deleted. So, I'm just wondering.
I also wonder how many critics work for news papers and other online sites that are owned by Time Warner.
IMDb is owned by Amazon.com, they are totally separate from Time Warner.
IHeartBayhem
08-01-2009, 09:04 PM
Very surprised to see it make as much money as it has, considering the majority of critics and other people hate the crap out of this movie.
I am not one of those people however, so to this Box Office success, I say "VICTORY!".
warhorse
08-02-2009, 01:26 AM
Very surprised to see it make as much money as it has, considering the majority of critics and other people hate the crap out of this movie.
I am not one of those people however, so to this Box Office success, I say "VICTORY!".
It's just the critics and the internet tools who hate it. The regular people enjoyed the movie. Many went back for second or third viewings.
Bayhem
08-02-2009, 04:56 AM
It's just the critics and the internet tools who hate it. The regular people enjoyed the movie. Many went back for second or third viewings.
My point exactly.
Thank you.
razgriz21
08-02-2009, 08:25 PM
It's just the critics and the internet tools who hate it. The regular people enjoyed the movie. Many went back for second or third viewings.
Now I don't feel so bad anymore. Not that I did anyway but that is encouraging because I enjoyed Transformers 2 despite flaws.
warhorse
08-04-2009, 08:15 PM
I don't see why anyone would feel bad about the movies they enjoy. If they do, then I just think they're falling in line with that whole peer pressure thing.
The reactions you get when you don't like a popular movie are priceless though.