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Trailbreaker
02-24-2009, 06:51 PM
This question came to mind when I remembered this post that Bay made:


The shooting in the the Middle East is ground breaking - an awesome time had by all the crew.

The Transformer Ride at Universal making all the press rounds - not sure yet - they had me in a press release saying I supported it - but Universal has a long way to go in my mind. I don't support it yet - I'm not involved and not sure the story of the ride works, and I know Optimus is not going to just show up to be directed by some new people that have never worked with him. I hate when people bullshit a quote from me that I never said.

I'll keep you informed. Maybe the guy making the rides at Universal will direct Transformers 3????

Bay

Last time I checked, it was Empire who said Bay said Megatron isn't in the movie. Well, I think what Bay said about people bullshitting a quote he never even said is the same case for the whole Megatron debacle. From now on, I am only taking Bay's word for what he writes right here on this forum.

What do you guys think?

littleman794
02-24-2009, 06:55 PM
This question came to mind when I remembered this post that Bay made:



Last time I checked, it was Empire who said Bay said Megatron isn't in the movie. Well, I think what Bay said about people bullshitting a quote he never even said is the same case for the whole Megatron debacle. From now on, I am only taking Bay's word for what he writes right here on this forum.

What do you guys think?

Hmm...thats a tough one....BUT IT WOULD BE SO AWESOME IF HE WASN'T....wait a sec...

wow....now i kind of don't mind...hmmm....you guys saying he will be in it so much has almost convinced me...hmm....whatev....movinforward will protect me from converting:D

but ya, you make an excellent point...and may be right...but with all the "proof" we have seen, i think he may be in it...

MouseNo4
02-24-2009, 07:12 PM
Personally, i am not counting megs in until i see 'without a doubt' proof he is.

For instance, i know optimus, bumblebee, fallen, scorponok, ravage, starscream, barracade and devastator ARE in the movie as we have all seen them in the trailer.

Other than those mentioned, the rest is pure speculation and all out guess work.

You may quote whomever and whatever you like, but the endless misinformation being circulated makes it difficult to determine who is actually telling the truth and who is lying in an attempt to conceal the real story for as long as possible.

Blackout_FanTard
02-24-2009, 08:27 PM
Last time I checked, it was Empire who said Bay said Megatron isn't in the movie. Well, I think what Bay said about people bullshitting a quote he never even said is the same case for the whole Megatron debacle. From now on, I am only taking Bay's word for what he writes right here on this forum.

What do you guys think?

Sounds reasonable... unless Bay is lying to us as well. But Megatron seems (to me, at least) to have too much of a role in the Transformers Universe to be excluded from these movies, even if it's just one movie. Here's my example: it's like not having peanut butter with your peanut butter and jelly sandwich; it would seem... weird.

But I'm a newbie, so what do I know? I'll simply say this much: we sure as heck can't trust Wikipedia. :rolleyes:

Trailbreaker
02-24-2009, 08:33 PM
Sounds reasonable... unless Bay is lying to us as well. But Megatron seems (to me, at least) to have too much of a role in the Transformers Universe to be excluded from these movies, even if it's just one movie. Here's my example: it's like not having peanut butter with your peanut butter and jelly sandwich; it would seem... weird.

But I'm a newbie, so what do I know? I'll simply say this much: we sure as heck can't trust Wikipedia. :rolleyes:
Or IMDb.

Blackout_FanTard
02-24-2009, 08:36 PM
Or IMDb.

Oh, heck yes.

Firefrost
02-24-2009, 08:37 PM
This should be enough:

Transformers writer Roberto Orci confirmed (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-211.html#post3333713) that Megatron returns in Transformers 2. His exact quotes are "Megatron returns!...Keep it quiet". I guess this is big news but then the Voyager class toy packaging (http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2009/01/packaging-pics-hint-at-megatron.html) gave this away already

'nuff said. I trust Roberto/Alex/Bay only

Shadow
02-24-2009, 08:38 PM
Personally, i am not counting megs in until i see 'without a doubt' proof he is.

For instance, i know optimus, bumblebee, fallen, scorponok, ravage, starscream, barracade and devastator ARE in the movie as we have all seen them in the trailer.

Other than those mentioned, the rest is pure speculation and all out guess work.

You may quote whomever and whatever you like, but the endless misinformation being circulated makes it difficult to determine who is actually telling the truth and who is lying in an attempt to conceal the real story for as long as possible.um... we never see Barricade in the trailer? You see the Audi.... and that is Sideways. Also Megs is in the trailer... twice;)

littleman794
02-24-2009, 08:41 PM
This should be enough:

Transformers writer Roberto Orci confirmed (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-211.html#post3333713) that Megatron returns in Transformers 2. His exact quotes are "Megatron returns!...Keep it quiet". I guess this is big news but then the Voyager class toy packaging (http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2009/01/packaging-pics-hint-at-megatron.html) gave this away already

'nuff said. I trust Roberto/Alex/Bay only


could be fake...

Firefrost
02-24-2009, 08:42 PM
I doubt it

littleman794
02-24-2009, 08:42 PM
I doubt it

probably true, but bay said himself they have released lots of fake information

Burnflare
02-24-2009, 08:43 PM
could be fake...

Dude, no offense, but you and the other peeps that don't want Megs back need to face the facts. There's just too much credible info to think he won't be back.

littleman794
02-24-2009, 08:46 PM
Dude, no offense, but you and the other peeps that don't want Megs back need to face the facts. There's just too much credible info to think he won't be back.

I actually don't mind him coming back now...in fact....whatev

im just saying it could be fake...

bay said "fake info released", and what ppl think they saw in the trailer is different in some cases...just rooting for the lesser, cuz i don't want too be a mean person...wow...im gonna stop posting my feelings now, srry guyz:(

TIMtationX
02-24-2009, 08:47 PM
...I don't think Orci would just flat out lie....

littleman794
02-24-2009, 08:48 PM
...I don't think Orci would just flat out lie....

but he could have been told to, to trick us a little and get our minds active

Blackout_FanTard
02-24-2009, 08:52 PM
I actually don't mind him coming back now...in fact....whatev

im just saying it could be fake...

bay said "fake info released", and what ppl think they saw in the trailer is different in some cases...just rooting for the lesser, cuz i don't want too be a mean person...wow...im gonna stop posting my feelings now, srry guyz:(

Hey, don't be sorry. After all, the less there is of Megatron, the more there will be of... OTHER ROBOTS! :D Like... BLACKOUT! :D :D

Besides, it's not like you're in everyone's face with: "OMGBBQROFLCOPTER!"

Shadow
02-24-2009, 08:56 PM
how about this.... there has been no false info put out there!!! Bay said that they were going to release all this fake/false info and they did no such thing. Bay let the fans run with it and make up things and ideas on their own and one thing led to another and soon everyone's info that they think was false and or true came from..... some other fan on the net somewhere else. And all the while Bay went on making the movie while everyone fought over info that never had a thing to do with the movie. THERE WAS NO FALSE INFO CAMPAIGN. Every bit of info we did get that was said to be false was true and they were just trying to cover it up by saying it was false.

Firefrost
02-24-2009, 08:58 PM
but he could have been told to, to trick us a little and get our minds active
I know what you are thinking but Orci's faith in the "misinfo" campaign has been said. He's just telling us what we already know. Transformers as a whole needs Megs/Prime, at least for instances.

Burnflare
02-24-2009, 08:59 PM
how about this.... there has been no false info put out there!!! Bay said that they were going to release all this fake/false info and they did no such thing. Bay let the fans run with it and make up things and ideas on their own and one thing led to another and soon everyone's info that they think was false and or true came from..... some other fan on the net somewhere else. And all the while Bay went on making the movie while everyone fought over info that never had a thing to do with the movie. THERE WAS NO FALSE INFO CAMPAIGN. Every bit of info we did get that was said to be false was true and they were just trying to cover it up by saying it was false.

So, he let us make up the fake info by messing with us and giving us info that was heavily open to debate? Sweet! We got used by Mr. Bay!

m1tsu
02-24-2009, 10:21 PM
I read somewhere in the Orci thread on tfw2005 where Orci said that the only false info that was leaked was to the insider and other media websites, with Bay doing the dirty work and Orci helping forge the false info.

However, he also said he would not lie directly to the fans though sometimes he uses sarcasm in his words when relating to things that shouldn't be leaked yet. Like when people first found out about Arcee in the walmart behind the scenes footage he would simply quote someone and say "Arcee?". Or when someone pulled up the Soundwave and Ravage design leaks, he would say, "Wouldn't the picture refer to the truck as Ravage and not Soundwave?"

Also that reminds me of that picture, which leaked way back in November/December before the teaser trailer, which depict Ravage to be a cyclops. It very much resembled what we saw in the teaser trailer exactly, except he had missiles on his back like the G1 version. Everyone was hellbent that Soundwave was the truck because of his grill on his waste, and Orci kept saying that Soundwave was NOT a truck. So I beliven Orci.

calmontoya
02-25-2009, 12:12 AM
how about this.... there has been no false info put out there!!! Bay said that they were going to release all this fake/false info and they did no such thing. Bay let the fans run with it and make up things and ideas on their own and one thing led to another and soon everyone's info that they think was false and or true came from..... some other fan on the net somewhere else. And all the while Bay went on making the movie while everyone fought over info that never had a thing to do with the movie. THERE WAS NO FALSE INFO CAMPAIGN. Every bit of info we did get that was said to be false was true and they were just trying to cover it up by saying it was false.

I'm with you on this one.... I just think that it would be a waste of time and money if they had to design fake stuff to post (like the megs designs)... plus, I also agree with megs appearing twice in the trailer (why show a fake meg in the trailer???).... and the obvious confirmation by Orci and the toy box are the last word there...

At least for me, there's no reason to doubt about it at all....

Bay only had to say 'I'm gonna leak fake info' and that triggered everyones imagination (including mine for a while):D

taybrian1
02-25-2009, 12:26 AM
At this point I'm taking everything with a grain of salt. You can't really believe anything until you see it yourself.

Shadow
02-25-2009, 12:39 AM
At this point I'm taking everything with a grain of salt. You can't really believe anything until you see it yourself.and you do see Megs in the trailer. Its Megs that jacks Prime in the face and its Megs that has Sam pinned down. IN the first 30 second trailer it was hard to tell but when the second trailer came out, you get a better shot of the arm holding Sam dow and as that shot pans out you can clearly see its Meg's arm and not Starscream.

Shadow
02-25-2009, 12:43 AM
I read somewhere in the Orci thread on tfw2005 where Orci said that the only false info that was leaked was to the insider and other media websites, with Bay doing the dirty work and Orci helping forge the false info.

However, he also said he would not lie directly to the fans though sometimes he uses sarcasm in his words when relating to things that shouldn't be leaked yet. Like when people first found out about Arcee in the walmart behind the scenes footage he would simply quote someone and say "Arcee?". Or when someone pulled up the Soundwave and Ravage design leaks, he would say, "Wouldn't the picture refer to the truck as Ravage and not Soundwave?"

Also that reminds me of that picture, which leaked way back in November/December before the teaser trailer, which depict Ravage to be a cyclops. It very much resembled what we saw in the teaser trailer exactly, except he had missiles on his back like the G1 version. Everyone was hellbent that Soundwave was the truck because of his grill on his waste, and Orci kept saying that Soundwave was NOT a truck. So I beliven Orci.ya and Orci also said in an interview when asked if Megs was coming back... "wasnt he dropped in the ocean with his partner"? This kind of to me hinted that Blackout may be revived along with Megs.

littleman794
02-25-2009, 12:55 AM
ya and Orci also said in an interview when asked if Megs was coming back... "wasnt he dropped in the ocean with his partner"? This kind of to me hinted that Blackout may be revived along with Megs.

yay!!!!!!!!

darthrage
02-25-2009, 01:00 AM
well the whole misinformation campaign was started by him

he might as well contribute to it directly

Blackout_FanTard
02-25-2009, 01:36 AM
ya and Orci also said in an interview when asked if Megs was coming back... "wasnt he dropped in the ocean with his partner"? This kind of to me hinted that Blackout may be revived along with Megs.

Hurray! BLACKOUT! :B <3

Firefrost
02-25-2009, 10:42 AM
Hurray! BLACKOUT! :B <3
Easy pal, I wouldn't put too much faith in that. As easy as it would be to have many of them back, it would get confusing as all hell.

Megatron makes sense because Soundwave will no doubt be looking to bring him back. Scorponok, yes because he was still in the desert and apparently can travel quite well and Barricade because he disappeared. I'm still starting to wonder about him because we haven't seen the slightest hint yet. Either way, there is going to be an awful lot of s**t going on in this movie as it is. We wanted more bots, we'll get them, for how long we don't know. It's just starting to seem like too much believe it or not. They know what they are doing so all we can do is sit back and wait...or search then wait :(

littleman794
02-25-2009, 02:14 PM
might as well search...maybe they will show barricade in the next trailer?

guppyvh
02-25-2009, 02:19 PM
when will the next trailer air(launch?)? any time soon or a few weeks for the release of the movie? or is it still unknown?

Shadow
02-25-2009, 02:20 PM
when will the next trailer air(launch?)? any time soon or a few weeks for the release of the movie? or is it still unknown?probably before the new Trek movie in May.

proson
02-25-2009, 06:42 PM
I remember a while back, i saw a video on youtube where like mtv asked him if megatron was gonna be in the new movie, and he said no.. im 99% sure of it.. But i cant find the movie :s

littleman794
02-25-2009, 06:46 PM
I remember a while back, i saw a video on youtube where like mtv asked him if megatron was gonna be in the new movie, and he said no.. im 99% sure of it.. But i cant find the movie :s

see if you can!..sounds like some ggoooooooood information:p

proson
02-25-2009, 06:59 PM
see if you can!..sounds like some ggoooooooood information:p


I will look for it tomorrow, work in 6 hours so going to bed now. will look for it when i get home.

dragonfire144
02-25-2009, 09:46 PM
Bay i do wonder what he is thinking noticing that all sorts of megatron and transformers leaked stuff is getting on the net. im mean he is probebly a little pissed

Firefrost
02-25-2009, 10:43 PM
Bay i do wonder what he is thinking noticing that all sorts of megatron and transformers leaked stuff is getting on the net. im mean he is probebly a little pissed
Doubtful, it was meant to be privy after awhile

megatron42
02-25-2009, 10:58 PM
if orci said megs is in the movie then he's in it.. for us old members we know how bay
is.. so newbies that's how he likes to do things

primusnine
02-26-2009, 12:43 AM
Didn't we all know Megatron wasn't really dead though? I mean, come on... It's Megatron! The Fallen may be a cool villain, but he is nowhere near as iconic as Megs, nor as popular, nor does he have the awesome background and history.

So long as Optimus lives, there will be Megatron. One cannot live without the other... Remember, Agent Smith is Megs, so that makes Optimus Neo. He is the dark side of the One.

XD

Iakobos
02-26-2009, 01:01 AM
The way I recall it, Bay said, and it was reported as an exact quote, that "Megatron would not be in ROTF". SO based on Orci's retraction, plus the Megatron tank toy and the tank tracks visible in the trailer where Sam is pinned down, I believe it's quite safe to say Bay, according to his misinformation campaign, misinformed us.

When Bay said Megs wouldn't be back I was pretty disappointed but took it with a grain of salt. The cartoon Megatron is one of my all time favorite bad guys. I loved the way he laughed that evil laugh.

Here's hoping Hugo Weaving has been recording some evil laughter for the upcoming movie.