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quinlan
02-17-2009, 10:51 PM
I just watched the movie trailer with french dubbing (awful!), and read some coments about it.
It's just some kind of a perception about what we (Frenchies) think about Michael Bay's movie. I'll try to translate them words as good as possible.
'Careful, some are hard... :deadhorse1:


Of course you can comment. It's just some advises of my "fellow citizens" :), I thought it could be interesting.

Trailbreaker
02-17-2009, 10:55 PM
Did some have hard feelings about the TF's landing in Paris, destroying a building in the process?

quinlan
02-17-2009, 11:00 PM
1
Sounds darker than the first one. It's better becuse Transformers was just some parody of Mecha Shônen.

2
That's all Michael Bay : explosions, no screenplay. I'm not waiting it, even if some pics are good.

3
Sounds the huge kind of movies as Michael Bay knows to do them. Anyway, SFX are great.

quinlan
02-17-2009, 11:03 PM
Did some have hard feelings about the TF's landing in Paris, destroying a building in the process?

I don't think. Michael allready did it in Armageddon. :D
But some are disturbed (?) by the geography he gave to our capital city. Not a problem for many others : the esthetic feeling of Michael is most approved and acclaimed.

quinlan
02-17-2009, 11:09 PM
Precision : the third one seemed t don't like the ovie, except for the SFX.

4
Just a word : wow!

5
Promises beautiful special effects, bigger than in the first one! I want it! Hope we will see it in 3D in theaters!

6
Wow!!! Stop it please! I cum!

(Sorry for that one. :lol)

quinlan
02-17-2009, 11:20 PM
7
Oh my God! That movie gonna be amazing! The teaser is amazing. I gonna see it when it's in theaters! (July 8t for us :()

8
Great! Even if we don't know a lot about the script, but it's not the mst important. Anyway... I want the summer to see it.

9
Good trailer... But I'm afraid about the script.

10
When will they confisc (?) Michael Bay's toys?

UnclePetey
02-17-2009, 11:28 PM
Good to see our fellow fans in France are likeing the traller, although the dubbing apparently sucks...

Mr. Bay has always been better at the action/SFX/soundtrack end... the storyline is there, but is usually way overpowered by the other aspects- not that I'm complaining... we've seen in Pearl Harbor that the storyline just gets in the way, anyhow...

quinlan
02-17-2009, 11:31 PM
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Well, yurk. That's Michael Bay.

12
Great idea it's the evil or the FX. Amazing! (I didn't understand that one... even in French :confused:)

13
Two mistakes in the first two shots of the trailer :
First , what does the Eiffel Tower north of the Concorde place? - yes I know, Americans do not know Paris.
And two, in the first shot the asteroids are passing on the left of the Eiffel Tower, and on the right in the second shot.
Anyway, dark sequels are now a cliché, almost when they don't respect this way - like int Harry Potter 6.

14
Michael Bay stop playing with your robots! :D
Where you fnd your inspiration for the action sequences, dear Michael?

quinlan
02-17-2009, 11:34 PM
Good to see our fellow fans in France are likeing the traller, although the dubbing apparently sucks...

Mr. Bay has always been better at the action/SFX/soundtrack end... the storyline is there, but is usually way overpowered by the other aspects- not that I'm complaining... we've seen in Pearl Harbor that the storyline just gets in the way, anyhow...

Well, it's more because of the screenwriters, I think. I think that the Island's storyline was good. But yes, in an action movie we want... action.
And yes, we loved the trailer. Not everybody (of course). But some reactions are strange. Some told they wouldn't see the movie because thee was no music in the trailer :deadhorse1:, for example.

UnclePetey
02-17-2009, 11:36 PM
Well... ...Some told they wouldn't see the movie because thee was no music in the trailer :deadhorse1:, for example.

They're prob still editing the score!

quinlan
02-17-2009, 11:41 PM
They're prob still editing the score!

Yes, certainly. But it's a good trailer, and the fact there's no music is good, I think. Something new that changes for better.

UnclePetey
02-17-2009, 11:49 PM
I just think it's funny how we've seen, maybe 2 minutes+ of movie combined in the two trailers... and maybe know of 1/2 the bots in the movie- and no one knows about the plot except Mr. bay, the editors, and those close to filming the majority of the scenes!

quinlan
02-17-2009, 11:50 PM
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Ok. Visualy it's good. But the story is just Grrrr - bam - Aaargh. But don't await something deep, anyway.

16
A trailer as the first one that is perfect. But if the movie is as the first and gives some headackes with the FX, it gonna be without me.

17
Well, we don't know anything more on the storyline, ecxept Sam's father will have hallucinations. I hope it!

18
It's good. It will be huge, this time.
For those who think it's "only Michael Bay" and "there's no storyline", it's good to remember this is just a trailer.
I want it, as an animated series fan.

19
Strange trailer, and don't inspires to see it. There's no music and the black cuts make me think about an horror movie. I hope the movie's better because I'm waiting for it since a year...

quinlan
02-17-2009, 11:52 PM
I just think it's funny how we've seen, maybe 2 minutes+ of movie combined in the two trailers... and maybe know of 1/2 the bots in the movie- and no one knows about the plot except Mr. bay, the editors, and those close to filming the majority of the scenes!

Yes, this is new too. :) We don't have the whole movie in the trailer, and we don't know exactly what it is about exactly. It will be a surprise for you. Less for us, because here everybody will have told the storyline before it's in theaters. :(

UnclePetey
02-17-2009, 11:54 PM
True... but mebbe you'll be able to see the English w/out the dubbing and enjoy it more than your friends who may not speak English that well!

quinlan
02-18-2009, 12:01 AM
True... but mebbe you'll be able to see the English w/out the dubbing and enjoy it more than your friends who may not speak English that well!

It's hard to have an English subtitled version for that kind of movies - most people prefers to see it in French... I'll wait the DVD issue, as the last time.
But thanks for my English practice. :cool:

UnclePetey
02-18-2009, 12:05 AM
Your English is very good... I don't know much French... :p

quinlan
02-18-2009, 12:08 AM
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Huuuuuuuuuge!!! I told you : Michael Bay strikes back!

21
100% Michael Bay and Steven spielberg. The storyline can be bad, but with these special effects I love it.
And about the asteroids, you can see some of them on the left and on the right because there are more than two.
'Want to be on July!

22
French dubbing still sucks.
Original version only!

23
Not a fan of these movies that exploses everything, but... it kicks the ass!
Michael Bay doesn't think, he just destroys anything. And he does it very well.

24
How some bad dubbing can transform :rolleyes: a good movie in B-movie... I'll be there!

UnclePetey
02-18-2009, 12:10 AM
Nice talkin with you, Q- time for bed!

quinlan
02-18-2009, 12:10 AM
Your English is very good... I don't know much French... :p

:D I'll learn to you. I'll make a post with the whole french dialogs of Transformers. Haha

quinlan
02-18-2009, 12:15 AM
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Not good for the carrier. We can see it's CGI.

26
Hard to discover the french voice when you only know the original. The stoyline seems being good. I hope it will be the same for Transformers 3.

27
A pop-corn movie to see absolutely, and going insane out the cinema. July!

28
I'm in love!

29
:eek:

quinlan
02-18-2009, 12:28 AM
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I saw the trailer o an other site. It was brighter and better.
Except for th carrier that looks CGI, the whole thing is really good.
A big pop-corn movie, but we don't want to think, in summer.

31
Really not good. No music, only some metallic and mechanic sounds that remains Power Rangers. I liked the first one, I gonna keep this, and won't go to see that one.

32
You want some music in a trailer to see a movie? :D

33
Gaaaaaa :wtf

34
Good but, when you have seen the first Transformers, can you believe in that one?

quinlan
02-18-2009, 12:48 AM
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For those who thinks it's bad because there's no music... You sucks, it's a trailer. The score will be amazing. But yes, of course. We are too much good to see that kind of movies. Just have some French comedys as "les Ch'tis". Good French movies, with god actors :deadhorse1:and good (erf) jokes. Good idea : don't see it, I'll be aloe and I love that.

36
:cool::cool::cool:

37
Petition : let's find a screenplay for Transformers 2. They say me it's too late. Well, we'll have those bom bam Noooooo blam 'I'm an American soldier! We must fight these robots!'

38
Yeah it's great... But the first one deceived me.

39
One thing to say : I want it now!

quinlan
02-18-2009, 01:01 AM
Well... I let you comment all this :D
It's dawn here, and I need to sleep a little.

I give you the link if you want to see the trailer with a French dubbing, to compare the voices.

http://www.allocine.fr/video/player_gen_cmedia=18866506&cfilm=132420.html

quinlan
02-18-2009, 08:18 AM
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Excellent! Don't say it's bad because there's no music. It keeps an ambiance and some secret... But the first teaser was more mysterious. Of course, I gonna see it.

41
No one's chocked (?) to see the Eiffel Tower on the Concord square?

42
Where can I vote (for a screenplay). Seriously, the first one had some kind of a quest : they had to find the Allspark, protect it, etc... What do we do now? Just watching at robots fighting each others? It's only some kind of a revanche story, because the decepticons didn't like losing in front of the Autobots. But the fabulous Camaro and Megan Fox will maybe save that movie.

43
Sounds badder and darker than the first one. But wait and see. Anyway, the trailer sucks.

44
There was no story in the teaser : normal. THere's still no story in the trailer, I vote too!

quinlan
02-18-2009, 08:31 AM
45
Greaaat!!!

46
The trailer sounds good but I think have llready seen somewhere... Yes, it's a copy of T4's trailer. Maybe with Spielberg as executive producer we gonna have some storyline this time.

47
The trailer is quite blur (blured?) and I don't see what happens. Bad robots are coming on Earth. I missed the music that would have given some 'epic' style.

48
No music, no dialogues... That trailer is more a big teaser... Perfect! I will see it in theaters!

49
The Movie to go to see this summer! Another Michael Bay blockbuster! The first one was great,but this one will be awesome!

quinlan
02-18-2009, 10:06 AM
Well... I found several massages on another french forum where some people think stupid or an insult to move the Eiffel Tower. They say that Michael Bay is stupid, bla bla...
I - and others - told'em that's not a problem, in an entertainment movie, particularly directed by Bay. Actualy, I don't know exactly where is the Eiffel Tower in Paris - and I'm French.
'Keep you informed abou it. If you want to comment, I'll be able to transmit to the French Fans.

Ja-mi-roquai
02-18-2009, 02:27 PM
Hey you're a French member too in this Forum ?! :)
You make an interesting Thread about the french's opinion on the movie, It's exactly what I think about the darker Tone, who made me feel that It gonna be more deeper than the the first TF.
But i just want that Michael don't give us more informations about the "Real" Plot... Because in these french forum, I have the impression that people find something who could be very close of the original screenplay (it's just an impression)

hautbasclair
02-18-2009, 02:28 PM
Actualy, I don't know exactly where is the Eiffel Tower in Paris - and I'm French.

Like most french people... Most tourists know that better.

BTW, the first shot from the trailer has a CGI Eiffel tower. In that location (La Place de la Concorde), from that angle, the Effiel tower would be right behind you.

Trailbreaker
02-18-2009, 02:32 PM
I think they did that in the trailer so people would see that it's Paris and not just some random city. I bet in the final cut, they would put it back in it's original spot.

hautbasclair
02-18-2009, 03:20 PM
I think they did that in the trailer so people would see that it's Paris and not just some random city. I bet in the final cut, they would put it back in it's original spot.

I highly doubt they will put it back in it's original spot since it is really only just a detail.

UnclePetey
02-18-2009, 03:25 PM
It's a small detail, and all but those who have been there will actually know the placement...

quinlan
02-18-2009, 04:15 PM
Of course it's not really important. In Armageddon, Bay had concentrated all the Paris' mouments in one shot, and it disturbed nobody.
It's the same i several movies, like in Siderman, where New York is really different that truth.
And also in the first Transformers, Bay shot the final battle in two or three city - added to the Universal Studios backlots, and nobody was showked about it.

quinlan
02-18-2009, 04:24 PM
It's good to find some other Frenchies in here. I thought I was the only one. :D Coucou tout le monde!

quinlan
02-18-2009, 04:50 PM
I keep continue my list... Some are funny, I think. Many people doesn't know anything about cinema or Transformers.

50
Great! Michael Bay's back! Great SFX, soundtrack, robots... Souds amazing! Like in the first one, I loved it.

51
Would Linkin Park compose a song for the album? It sounds great, even if some pictures reminds me the first one. Wait and see...

52
Awesome! The first one was already great, but here we meet the old Decepticon and the Fallen! Wow!

53
Great! :mad: The guy who made the last Indiana Jones sucks is back!

54
Wow it looks very good. We don't discorver a lot about the storyline and we can't judge yet if the movie will be as good as the first. But really beautiful!

quinlan
02-18-2009, 04:54 PM
Well, I remember.
The French Bay-fans and Transfans says 'hello' to you. ;)

quinlan
02-18-2009, 06:33 PM
Last ones chosen...

55
gonna be huge!!! I hope there'll be the same humour as in the first one.

56
I highly hope it will be less stupid than last time.

57
Really so cool!

58
Why does Hollywood always make some remakes and sequels? Is there is this only way to make profit?

59
Wow the trailer... It'll gonna be better than the first one!

60
Gonna be the better movie in the world!

quinlan
02-18-2009, 06:53 PM
I'll finish here - for now.

Has you can see, most of people who post comments about the trailer are awaiting the movie with excitation.
Some others are thinking differently. For them, 'blockbuster' means no script, no storyline and, of course, no talent.
Many people says tha kind f movies are made by fat Americans for fat Americans, and made to sale some soda or burgers. It's hard to change those minds, even with some good argumentation.
For now, in france, the most expansive movie was Asterix aux Jeux Olympiques, with around $ 45/50 millions. Quite far from a Spiderman 3, the dark Knight and, even, Jurassic Park, made in 1993. And it sounded like a scandale fo many people, to pay that money only for a movie (a bad movie, but it's my opinion). We are not ready to give money to the cinema industry, and it won't be exported while it won't change (I'd like to know what French movies you have in U.S.). More, most of our movies are produced by TV channels, who want some not to much expansive movies that would be good at the TV for everybody - adults and children, and never chock or hurt anybody...

I think that's also why so many people is waiting every movie by MichaelBay, or Jerry Bruckheimer's production : good blockusters, that are an entire part of the cinema, artistic, various and just... for people and not particularly for the elite.

quinlan
02-19-2009, 06:46 AM
Mr Bay... French people is waiting your movie too... It gonna be a hit!

quinlan
02-19-2009, 08:41 AM
New adds. I'm still laughing. :D They're so silly!

- I don't know if you've seen that, but it's again some foreign monuments that are attacked : Paris, Egypt, and no Americain monuments. Maybe some social trauma after 9/11?
I remember the 90' when everything was explosing in ID4 or Armageddon (the White House etc...)
Anyway the trailer is good, for those who like this movie-style. Personnaly I hate that.

The answer :
- I hope you saw the first one where I saw the American couldn't defend themselfs. Anymore, the entire planet is in danger. Don't feel targeted (?) if Paris exploses.
This film seemsawesome just as the first one, and I hope it will respect the comics and the animated series.

- That movie looks great with these SFX (thanks ILM)

- Wow The Autobots gonna have problems. Awesome!

- Sounds as boring as the first one. I slept.
(How did he??? :deadhorse1:)

Trailbreaker
02-19-2009, 08:56 AM
Yeah, the sound was practically piercing my ears in the first.

quinlan
02-19-2009, 09:01 AM
Yeah, me too. :)

I love the one who says there some 'social trauma'. I don't know where he found that idea, particularly when we see the destructions in the first one, and the attack of the carrier in the trailer.

quinlan
02-19-2009, 12:01 PM
Well... We have a question here about Jablonsky's score for the second one (two questions, actually) :
You ned (needed?) some petitions to have the first movie's score released on cd and, in despite of our efforts, we couldn't have it in France (except from import).
Do you think they will release this one without petition? (If they do, we maybe have it in France, I hope). It would be cool for Jablonsky - and his whole fans...

My second question wasn't that important, but... Well. do you think that Zimmer will collaborate at this one as he did on the first one for themes like Arrival on Earth? I heard he was on holidays, but seems to compose Angels & Demons' score.

quinlan
02-19-2009, 04:40 PM
'Found some others comments.

Most are, of course, really agree and happy to see the new pictures of the movie.
Some others thinks it's another boring action movie with stupid robots.
Well... Everybody thinks what he wants, I guess.

Katsuhono
02-19-2009, 05:36 PM
Damn, some people are so....pfff

quinlan
02-19-2009, 05:38 PM
Damn, some people are so....pfff

:D Your first post is for french comments about the movie? You make me laugh Katsu! :lol You're amazing!

Katsuhono
02-19-2009, 05:50 PM
Sure ! I'm French quite normal to post my first post here :p

quinlan
02-19-2009, 05:54 PM
If you see some other interesting coments about the movie, translate'em and post'em here. I'd like to find some argumented coms, but it's hard...

quinlan
02-20-2009, 11:06 AM
found another one... Really... Well. :lol

That guy was talking about Bay was editing his movies with his knees (yeah!), and that they were written by dumb monkeys...
Then... Editing with knees is an expression (maybe just a French expression). But written by dumb monkeys???
If you want to answer him something (Oh, I dream that Michael answers anything :D)...

Anyway, if Mr Bay has some message to his French fans... Come on - you seems so far from here.