View Full Version : keeping the prime name on the autobot side
The Great
10-17-2007, 10:27 PM
I know it's just a rumor that the main villain will have the name of prime in the second movie but, let's bud nip this one.
Yeah. Many people will be confused about two Primes.
darthrage
10-17-2007, 11:42 PM
Could be Nemesis Prime
and plus the autobots refer to him as Optimus
Only Megatron who's dead refered to Optimus as Prime
devonnewberry
10-17-2007, 11:42 PM
Yeah. Many people will be confused about two Primes.
Oh for sure. I don't like the idea
MegaOctane
10-18-2007, 03:21 AM
No Nemesis prime. It is as lame as KITT and KARR from the Knight Rider series.
The Great
10-18-2007, 05:00 AM
No Nemesis prime. It is as lame as KITT and KARR from the Knight Rider series.
MEGAOCTANE coming in with the obscure pop reference for the win!! THIS KID IS SERIOUS FOLKS HE IS SERIOUS!!
r-type
10-18-2007, 12:00 PM
MEGAOCTANE coming in with the obscure pop reference for the win!! THIS KID IS SERIOUS FOLKS HE IS SERIOUS!! Well played. Karr was voiced by Peter Cullen back in the day for the double! :P The day is mine Trebek!!
The Great
10-18-2007, 02:44 PM
Well played. Karr was voiced by Peter Cullen back in the day for the double! :P The day is mine Trebek!!
OMG R type come in with a double obscure pop reference score!! what the hell is going on?? sic degrees of transformers is happening right now before our eyes folks!! who will be next?
darthrage
10-18-2007, 08:39 PM
MEGAOCTANE coming in with the obscure pop reference for the win!! THIS KID IS SERIOUS FOLKS HE IS SERIOUS!!
They should just call him Octane instead of Megaoctane.
MegaOctane
10-19-2007, 01:31 AM
Oh... be nice....
MegaOctane
10-21-2007, 08:06 AM
I thought of that also, but i got in trouble for mentioning KITT, what would happen if i sited austin :confused:
guitarded
03-06-2008, 05:22 PM
Is there any more news/rumours of another "prime" in the sequel........rodimus or otherwise????
Perhaps the geriatric bot that Bay hinted at ????
Smokescreen_5
03-07-2008, 02:05 AM
Is there any more news/rumours of another "prime" in the sequel........rodimus or otherwise????
Perhaps the geriatric bot that Bay hinted at ????
Geriatric? As in Kup?
guitarded
03-07-2008, 09:30 AM
Geriatric? As in Kup?
I dunno........I'm just throwing another log into the fire. perhaps the other "prime" and news of a geriatric bot are linked together somehow, or the idea was scrapped.
It could very well be that Bay is pulling a fast one. Geriatric could mean anything.........even Grimlock
Dinobot3992
03-07-2008, 10:26 AM
Two Primes, Is Nemesis Prime even a G1 character? (I'm not sure)
But two Primes is no good idea.
guitarded
03-07-2008, 10:34 AM
I don't think its a good idea either!
It would just be a cheap way to market a Black or white repaint of Optimus Prime. It wouldn't be so bad if the two primes shared similar features..i.e head sculpts etc, but had different alt modes like in the "Car robots/ RID" series
I don't think Bay's transformers are limited to the G1 era. He has the whole universe at his disposal
We'll see what happens
Smokescreen_5
03-08-2008, 12:33 AM
I dunno........I'm just throwing another log into the fire. perhaps the other "prime" and news of a geriatric bot are linked together somehow, or the idea was scrapped.
It could very well be that Bay is pulling a fast one. Geriatric could mean anything.........even Grimlock
Or it could be like Windrazor from Botcon... where 2 sparks merged together, a young decepticon and an old autobot. I dont' remember the whole story behind it, but thought it was interesting.. it could also mean A3 as well. He was a big part of the story line too. I don't care for the way they made Ratchet in the Animated series as an old transformer.
StefsChemicalRomance
03-08-2008, 01:07 AM
I don't think its a good idea either!
It would just be a cheap way to market a Black or white repaint of Optimus Prime. It wouldn't be so bad if the two primes shared similar features..i.e head sculpts etc, but had different alt modes like in the "Car robots/ RID" series
I don't think Bay's transformers are limited to the G1 era. He has the whole universe at his disposal
We'll see what happens
True. But if we all think its a stupid idea. I have a feeling Bay would to lol. Besides, i dont think he gives a crap about the Hasbro side of things.
Smokescreen_5
03-08-2008, 01:10 AM
True. But if we all think its a stupid idea. I have a feeling Bay would to lol. Besides, i dont think he gives a crap about the Hasbro side of things.
He may not give a crap about Hasbros' side of things, but Hasbro still has a big say in the matter. After all, they are the company that has the "Transformers" name trademarked. They've pretty much owned and created it since they brought it over from Japan in 84'. I'm sure that if he decided to do something and Hasbro didn't like the idea and he continued with it anyways, there'd be some major scrapping going on...
StefsChemicalRomance
03-08-2008, 01:12 AM
Agreed :D
guitarded
03-08-2008, 09:31 AM
I disagree. Trademark/copyright laws just mean you can't sell someone else's ideas as your own and profit from them......Bay could do whatever he wants
menasor3
03-08-2008, 01:13 PM
I know it's just a rumor that the main villain will have the name of prime in the second movie but, let's bud nip this one.
Leave the prime name out and just get Motor Master and the rest of the stunticons:D.
Smokescreen_5
03-09-2008, 05:20 AM
I disagree. Trademark/copyright laws just mean you can't sell someone else's ideas as your own and profit from them......Bay could do whatever he wants
Ok.. from your statement, you just basically agreed with me. How is that a disagreement? Bay can't sell Hasbro's trademarked/copywritten material as his own and profit from it without their say so. Which includes him making a movie about them. He would be after all trying to sell the movie.
guitarded
03-09-2008, 08:43 AM
. I'm sure that if he decided to do something and Hasbro didn't like the idea and he continued with it anyways, there'd be some major scrapping going on...
This is what I was referring to, Smoke.
As long as the trademarks/copyrights are included, Bay could do whatever he wants to transformers
W12eckag3
03-09-2008, 12:26 PM
well with the hasbro vs bay thing on copywright i think they both look for ideas they made a arcee & wreckage both didnt make it to the movie due to budget or movie length not sure bout that. its not that bay dont care i think, but he has to look at budget + movie length.
megatron42
03-09-2008, 08:09 PM
i got an idea have prime in a lab a freak accident happens.. and
octain is created or motor master,
Shadow
03-09-2008, 08:36 PM
i got an idea have prime in a lab a freak accident happens.. and
octain is created or motor master, I got a good idea for Motor Master. Do something like they did in the g-1 cartoon... have Motor Master sneak into the Autobots as Optimus. I mean thats what they did in the g-1 cartoon. Motor Master is about the same size and mass as Optimus and they never say if Transformers can scan each other. So I thought of this... Have some Decepticons capture Optimus some how and have Motor Master scan Optimus and sneak into the Autobots as Optimus. Think of the trouble Motor Master could cause. He would make a good Dark Prime:D Maybe this is something Bay could expand on... I mean if you have a transformer who is an infiltrater type... what better way to do just that then to scan, terminate your foe and take on his likeness to sneak in. It could work:rolleyes:
guitarded
03-09-2008, 11:41 PM
I got a good idea for Motor Master. Do something like they did in the g-1 cartoon... have Motor Master sneak into the Autobots as Optimus. I mean thats what they did in the g-1 cartoon. Motor Master is about the same size and mass as Optimus and they never say if Transformers can scan each other. So I thought of this... Have some Decepticons capture Optimus some how and have Motor Master scan Optimus and sneak into the Autobots as Optimus. Think of the trouble Motor Master could cause. He would make a good Dark Prime:D Maybe this is something Bay could expand on... I mean if you have a transformer who is an infiltrater type... what better way to do just that then to scan, terminate your foe and take on his likeness to sneak in. It could work:rolleyes:
I don't remember Motormaster disguising himself as Optimus????:confused:
I do remember the episode "Masquerade" where 5 autobots disguised themselves as the Stunticons after they captured them...Prime, Sidewipe, Mirage, ...don't remember the other two.... they infiltrated the canyon the cons were in....even merged into Menasor
I still don't think a Dark Prime would suit the Bay series....maybe a one-off movie, or by a different director even, sometime after the series is done. I just feel there are more stories to tell in Transformers than to introduce the Dark Prime fad
Shadow
03-10-2008, 11:10 AM
I don't remember Motormaster disguising himself as Optimus????:confused:
I do remember the episode "Masquerade" where 5 autobots disguised themselves as the Stunticons after they captured them...Prime, Sidewipe, Mirage, ...don't remember the other two.... they infiltrated the canyon the cons were in....even merged into Menasor
I still don't think a Dark Prime would suit the Bay series....maybe a one-off movie, or by a different director even, sometime after the series is done. I just feel there are more stories to tell in Transformers than to introduce the Dark Prime fad I guess i should have worded that better... thats what I ment about Prime and the others disguised to infiltrate the Decepticons... except switch it up and have Motor Master infiltrate the Autobots as Optimus... not Optimus as Motor Master. Sorry for the confussion. And the Dark Prime thing wasnt meaning have the Dark Prime thing interduced. I just ment it as I think he would be a cool evil Optimus and really make a mess of things for the Autobots.
guitarded
03-10-2008, 01:26 PM
I guess i should have worded that better... thats what I ment about Prime and the others disguised to infiltrate the Decepticons... except switch it up and have Motor Master infiltrate the Autobots as Optimus... not Optimus as Motor Master. Sorry for the confussion. And the Dark Prime thing wasnt meaning have the Dark Prime thing interduced. I just ment it as I think he would be a cool evil Optimus and really make a mess of things for the Autobots.
Fo sho :cool: ... your idea has merit!
...but the autobots need a base of operations, and a good reason to be infiltrated. All it would really take just now is to lure and trap Prime on his own, incapacitate him, and then disguise a decepticon voice as to sound just like him. Then simply tune into an autobot frequency, and bang...trap is set
I still don't think a Dark Prime would suit the Bay series....maybe a one-off movie, or by a different director even, sometime after the series is done. I just feel there are more stories to tell in Transformers than to introduce the Dark Prime fad
Yeah, evil and dark Prime would be fascinating as hell (imagine a black Peterbilt powersliding!) but it seems to be difficult to introduce that idea in the span of trilogy.
guitarded
03-10-2008, 01:48 PM
Yeah, evil and dark Prime would be fascinating as hell (imagine a black Peterbilt powersliding!) but it seems to be difficult to introduce that idea in the span of trilogy.
I can only hope the transformers will live longer on the big screen than just a mere three movies.
I would love to see side stories that showcase/spotlight different characters
...So, Sora, have you taken Truck Driving lessons? I can imagine you're just dying to try and powerslide a peterbuilt ;-)
So, Sora, have you taken Truck Driving lessons? I can imagine you're just dying to try and powerslide a peterbuilt ;-)
I'm seriously thinking about getting a heavy vehicle license. :D
guitarded
03-10-2008, 02:02 PM
I'm seriously thinking about getting a heavy vehicle license. :D
:D:D...You'll need lots of room to practice those drifts.....;)
The driving school I went had a quite good course. ;)
guitarded
03-10-2008, 02:23 PM
The driving school I went had a quite good course. ;)
Be sure to post videos.That will be fun to watch!!!
Smokescreen_5
03-11-2008, 12:28 AM
I guess i should have worded that better... thats what I ment about Prime and the others disguised to infiltrate the Decepticons... except switch it up and have Motor Master infiltrate the Autobots as Optimus... not Optimus as Motor Master. Sorry for the confussion. And the Dark Prime thing wasnt meaning have the Dark Prime thing interduced. I just ment it as I think he would be a cool evil Optimus and really make a mess of things for the Autobots.
Hmm... this concept totally sounds like this years Botcon theme... basically a parallel universe where the Autobots are actually evil... and the Decepticons are the good guys.. lol
Hmm... this concept totally sounds like this years Botcon theme... basically a parallel universe where the Autobots are actually evil... and the Decepticons are the good guys.. lol
Now I got it why they had Prime silhouette with red optics in the top of their website.. "till all are gone" ? Seems like I must visit Cincinnati! :eek:
Smokescreen_5
03-11-2008, 01:31 AM
Now I got it why they had Prime silhouette with red optics in the top of their website.. "till all are gone" ? Seems like I must visit Cincinnati! :eek:
Yes.. have you seen some of the pictures of the toys? I think there was another thread here with pictures of them.. but in any case, heres the link to the toys: http://botcon.com/Botcon08/08figures.cfm
Notice the Optimus Prime here is colored purple.. and STarscream is the bright red and white plane. I know I'd like to go to this years convention but I don't think I'll be able to make it. grrrrrrrr
megatron42
03-11-2008, 09:49 AM
Now I got it why they had Prime silhouette with red optics in the top of their website.. "till all are gone" ? Seems like I must visit Cincinnati! :eek:
you'd love the queen city.. not sure why it's called that
barricade505
03-11-2008, 10:19 AM
I wanted to go to botcon too,but legal issues and my car takes alot of $$ I really dont have.Thank goodness for Income tax returns!!!YES!!
megatron42
03-11-2008, 05:03 PM
you can fly in