What is the Worst Michael Bay Film [Archive] - The Official Michael Bay Forums

LadiesMan217

04-23-2008, 02:16 PM

Bumblebee1983

04-23-2008, 02:23 PM

Don't we have a thread like this already?

Anyway, Pearl Harbor. But fuck, I'm already starting to get nostalgic about that one. I was 13 when it came out, and of course loved it. Now I'm aware the movie has huge flaws, but I wouldn't go as far as saying I hate it. When it's actually about the title subject it's pretty good.

Umm.....to be perfectly honest, I have not watched Pearl Harbor in an oh soooo very long time. I do have the DVD somewhere....got it for Christmas.

I seriously think my dad bought it for me because I was on a Josh Hartnett high.

But I really wasn't. Honest. :o

Bay_Fan_Gibson

04-23-2008, 03:41 PM

Umm.....to be perfectly honest, I have not watched Pearl Harbor in an oh soooo very long time. I do have the DVD somewhere....got it for Christmas.

I seriously think my dad bought it for me because I was on a Josh Hartnett high.

But I really wasn't. Honest. :o

Just curious Bumblebee1983, are you posting from the office during breaks like me? :p

Bumblebee1983

04-23-2008, 03:47 PM

Just curious Bumblebee1983, are you posting from the office during breaks like me? :p

Yup. I really should be finishing up my section, but I'm avoiding it.:o

It shouldn't take me long anywhoos. :cool:

Bay_Fan_Gibson

04-23-2008, 04:21 PM

Yup. I really should be finishing up my section, but I'm avoiding it.:o

It shouldn't take me long anywhoos. :cool:

I got a pile of stuff, but I'm pretty much done.

I am very appreciative of this message board being in a very passive,
professional grey tone. I can just browse and it looks like a professional
web page. If this board was all blasting with colors and a giant smiling
Michael Bay face in the background or something I don't think I could get away with it lol.

Not that I'm not allowed to be browsing,
but it wouldn't look as good, you know?

Smokescreen_5

04-24-2008, 01:37 AM

I loved Pearl Harbor and Transformers..

I'm going to have to say Armageddon. Just didn't care for it. That plus there were numerous other movies coming out with the same plot.. Were all gonna die.. the worlds gonna end.. bleh..

People say they didn't like the love triangle involved. If it was all about just the war.. it'd be a military news report.. not a movie. The dialogue and relations involved made it a movie IMO.

Bumblebee1983

04-24-2008, 08:50 PM

I got a pile of stuff, but I'm pretty much done.

I am very appreciative of this message board being in a very passive,
professional grey tone. I can just browse and it looks like a professional
web page. If this board was all blasting with colors and a giant smiling
Michael Bay face in the background or something I don't think I could get away with it lol.

Not that I'm not allowed to be browsing,
but it wouldn't look as good, you know?

I completely know where you're coming from.

And I just keep it minimized and look at it from time to time. I type entirely too fast too and I can reply, then minimize and go back to work.

Me the multitasker. I is good.:D

Smokescreen_5

04-25-2008, 01:21 AM

I completely know where you're coming from.

And I just keep it minimized and look at it from time to time. I type entirely too fast too and I can reply, then minimize and go back to work.

Me the multitasker. I is good.:D

HA HA .. coming from miss 3000 poster..

Mobe1969

04-25-2008, 01:46 AM

I'm not going to vote...

bumblebee86

04-26-2008, 05:03 PM

Pearl Harbor

Jarek Zabczynski

04-27-2008, 01:13 PM

I think Pearl Harbor is a masterpiece.

Smokescreen_5

04-28-2008, 11:42 AM

I change my mind.. his worst movie is, The Hitcher (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809710034/info). LOL.. actually I've never seen it.. but it sounds like one of his only flops.

Goodspeed

04-28-2008, 03:29 PM

Pearl was amazing haters can go die, honestly i love every single Bay movie otherwise i wouldnt be on this forum dumbasses...

Chemical Superfreak

04-28-2008, 03:50 PM

I change my mind.. his worst movie is, The Hitcher (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809710034/info). LOL.. actually I've never seen it.. but it sounds like one of his only flops.

I really don't think there counting his production company's films, because, well there not counting them because they're not his films.

People say they didn't like the love triangle involved. If it was all about just the war.. it'd be a military news report.. not a movie. The dialogue and relations involved made it a movie IMO.

oh definitely, definitely. Where would Saving Private Ryan been without it's love triangle.......yea, it would of been a CNN news story at best.

Bumblebee1983

04-28-2008, 03:52 PM

oh definitely, definitely. Where would Saving Private Ryan been without it's love triangle.......yea, it would of been a CNN news story at best.

Wait...what? Saving Private Ryan had a love triangle?

Did you watch the same movie I did? LOL

I thought it was about a family, the Ryans, who had many sons in the war, and all of them but Matt Damon's character died and Tom Hanks character and crew was sent on a rescue mission.

*shrug*

Bumblebee1983

04-28-2008, 08:06 PM

HA HA .. coming from miss 3000 poster..

You're just jealous, mr. under-1,000 posts.

:p

Chemical Superfreak

04-28-2008, 09:01 PM

Wait...what? Saving Private Ryan had a love triangle?

sorry Ms. Bee, i sometimes feel my sarcasm is obvious when, in fact, it isn't. I was telling Goodspeed <who has since edited his post>, who seems to think the love triangle was somehow...neccesary to the film... that one of the greatest war films of all time, that being Saving Pvt. Ryan, had NO love story to speak of, and easily accomplishes things that Bay's travesty of a film, Pearl Harbor, would NEVER of gotten even CLOSE to achieveing. Did i clear it up or make it worse?

Pearl was amazing haters can go die, honestly i love every single Bay movie otherwise i wouldnt be on this forum dumbasses...

LOL. WOW, that must mean that EVERY single one of us has to LOVE ALL of his films........or there's no point for us to be on a board discussing his films? I'm sorry, but it's fair to say this board is evenly divided between those that abhor Pearl Harbor <rightfully so> and those that mistakenly throw the word "masterpiece!" around when refering to PH. Honestly, i can't even say evenly divided, i feel the majority of posters here, as far as i can tell, dislike PH. Regardless, i wouldn't ever tell someone to go die because their opinion differs from mine.

Goodspeed

04-28-2008, 09:26 PM

LOL. WOW, that must mean that EVERY single one of us has to LOVE ALL of his films........or there's no point for us to be on a board discussing his films? I'm sorry, but it's fair to say this board is evenly divided between those that abhor Pearl Harbor <rightfully so> and those that mistakenly throw the word "masterpiece!" around when refering to PH. Honestly, i can't even say evenly divided, i feel the majority of posters here, as far as i can tell, dislike PH. Regardless, i wouldn't ever tell someone to go die because their opinion differs from mine.

OK let me rephrase that, haters can suck balls...

uraydo

04-28-2008, 09:43 PM

OK let me rephrase that, haters can suck balls...
wow.... no thanks. I hate Pearl Harbor, but I think I will pass on the ball sucking. :p

Mobe1969

04-29-2008, 04:00 AM

I really don't think there counting his production company's films, because, well there not counting them because they're not his films.

oh definitely, definitely. Where would Saving Private Ryan been without it's love triangle.......yea, it would of been a CNN news story at best.

I change my mind.. his worst movie is, The Hitcher (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809710034/info). LOL.. actually I've never seen it.. but it sounds like one of his only flops.

I'd recommend seeing it before writing it off. I thought it followed the trend of remakes surpassing the original. I thought is was excellent.

Goodspeed

04-29-2008, 07:13 AM

wow.... no thanks. I hate Pearl Harbor, but I think I will pass on the ball sucking. :p

well then you clearly have no sense of plot and storyline... the world is not all about explosions and violence.

Bumblebee1983

04-29-2008, 08:59 AM

sorry Ms. Bee, i sometimes feel my sarcasm is obvious when, in fact, it isn't. I was telling Goodspeed <who has since edited his post>, who seems to think the love triangle was somehow...neccesary to the film... that one of the greatest war films of all time, that being Saving Pvt. Ryan, had NO love story to speak of, and easily accomplishes things that Bay's travesty of a film, Pearl Harbor, would NEVER of gotten even CLOSE to achieveing. Did i clear it up or make it worse?

LOL. WOW, that must mean that EVERY single one of us has to LOVE ALL of his films........or there's no point for us to be on a board discussing his films? I'm sorry, but it's fair to say this board is evenly divided between those that abhor Pearl Harbor <rightfully so> and those that mistakenly throw the word "masterpiece!" around when refering to PH. Honestly, i can't even say evenly divided, i feel the majority of posters here, as far as i can tell, dislike PH. Regardless, i wouldn't ever tell someone to go die because their opinion differs from mine.

Ahhhhhh.......now I gotcha.

Thanks for explainin' there CS.

uraydo

04-29-2008, 09:15 AM

well then you clearly have no sense of plot and storyline... the world is not all about explosions and violence.
maybe not, but I do have a sence of being bored out of my fucking mind.

and by the way, I watch more than just action movies. and going back to explosions, I have a problem with most of them in movies. To name one off the top of my head, the trolley car explosion in The Rock.

Goodspeed

04-29-2008, 12:08 PM

maybe not, but I do have a sence of being bored out of my fucking mind.

alright its all good

Smokescreen_5

04-29-2008, 12:20 PM

You're just jealous, mr. under-1,000 posts.

:p

Ha ha ha.. umm.. I don't really even look at it..

sorry Ms. Bee, i sometimes feel my sarcasm is obvious when, in fact, it isn't. I was telling Goodspeed <who has since edited his post>, who seems to think the love triangle was somehow...neccesary to the film...

LOL. WOW, that must mean that EVERY single one of us has to LOVE ALL of his films........or there's no point for us to be on a board discussing his films? I'm sorry, but it's fair to say this board is evenly divided between those that abhor Pearl Harbor <rightfully so> and those that mistakenly throw the word "masterpiece!" around when refering to PH. Honestly, i can't even say evenly divided, i feel the majority of posters here, as far as i can tell, dislike PH. Regardless, i wouldn't ever tell someone to go die because their opinion differs from mine.

Actually.. I was the one who first initiated the ordeal about the love triangle helping it along as a movie. In MY opinion.. it gave a bit of a story to the movie besides all bang bang shoot em up Japs are coming duck and cover lets go bomb those bastards back. I liked Pearl Harbor alot.. say what you want.. I don't care.. I never cared for Saving Private Ryan. Yes I've seen it, and I know SOME people like it alot.. but myself.. I didn't. Agree to disagree with me whatever..

I'd recommend seeing it before writing it off. I thought it followed the trend of remakes surpassing the original. I thought is was excellent.

Yeah.. I know.. I'm not totally writing it off.. hence the reason why I stated I've never seen it.. just guessing it was one of the worst since even MB himself stated it was one of his only flops.

Chemical Superfreak

04-29-2008, 05:10 PM

and by the way, I watch more than just action movies. and going back to explosions, I have a problem with most of them in movies. To name one off the top of my head, the trolley car explosion in The Rock.

How about the Russian satellite thingy Peter Stormare was in that blew up in space.......there CAN"T be explosions in space. That was the worst explosion in a Bay movie, the Trolley car may of been kinda unreal, but a Trolley can still blow up, that satellite thing would never have an explosion like that. But Bay says "I know i know i know, you can't have explosions in space" on the Arma.Criterion Commentary track

uraydo

04-29-2008, 05:48 PM

How about the Russian satellite thingy Peter Stormare was in that blew up in space.......there CAN"T be explosions in space. That was the worst explosion in a Bay movie, the Trolley car may of been kinda unreal, but a Trolley can still blow up, that satellite thing would never have an explosion like that. But Bay says "I know i know i know, you can't have explosions in space" on the Arma.Criterion Commentary track
you probably know all this, but actually you can have explosions in space. Its fire that can't exist in space. The only reason for that is the lack of oxygen. Now the space station had oxygen. It may be short lived, but I believe a space station could fire ball.

Chemical Superfreak

04-29-2008, 10:44 PM

Smokescreen_5

04-30-2008, 12:00 AM

Yea, one thing that really really irked me throughout Armaggedon was the overuse of Murphy's Law. EVERYTHING that could go wrong, went wrong, then was fixed, then went wrong AGAIN, etc etc etc. I really hated that about Armageddon, i was like.....okkkkkkkayyyyy we GET IT. The stakes are HIGH for the oil drillers, please stop beating it over our heads now.

Wait.. what?? They were drilling for oil? Gee.. and here I thought they were trying to drill a long enough hole to drop some massive explosives in to break a part an asteroid that was being hurled at Earth that could possibly destroy all civilization as we knew it. Hmm.. who knew...

Mobe1969

04-30-2008, 03:39 AM

you probably know all this, but actually you can have explosions in space. Its fire that can't exist in space. The only reason for that is the lack of oxygen. Now the space station had oxygen. It may be short lived, but I believe a space station could fire ball.

Yeah, exactly. The station was the oxygen supply.

Chemical Superfreak

04-30-2008, 07:29 AM

Wait.. what?? They were drilling for oil? Gee.. and here I thought they were trying to drill a long enough hole to drop some massive explosives in to break a part an asteroid that was being hurled at Earth that could possibly destroy all civilization as we knew it. Hmm.. who knew...ummmmmm........ i never said they were on the asteroid to drill for oil, now did i? I referred to them as what they are, oil drillers. Get it? Do you get it? Nevermind, obviously you don't get it.

Smokescreen_5

04-30-2008, 02:56 PM

ummmmmm........ i never said they were on the asteroid to drill for oil, now did i? I referred to them as what they are, oil drillers. Get it? Do you get it? Nevermind, obviously you don't get it.

Are you on drugs?

STEPhon IT

04-30-2008, 09:33 PM

Bad Boys, Bad Boys, BAD BOYS. Weak, pretentious, and very familiar to all the buddy cop films where in this one there are two actors trying desperately to find the essense of what Eddie Murphy once had. One of the reasons why I love Bad Boys II so much. Martin and Will and Michael are established, they didn't need to soul search for these cardboard and very wooden characters like the first film--these guys actually gave those characters dimension they didn't have the confidence to do in the first film.

I hate Bad Boys. I'd rather watch Pearl Harbor any day than to sit through Bad boys again. Bleh!

meezookeewee

05-01-2008, 12:29 AM

Hi. I'm new to these forums. I would like to say that Pearl Harbor was the worst Bay movie I've ever seen. That being said, the movie wasn't terrible at all. Good acting, spectacular action sequences, and awesome music. The part that really brought the movie down was the first hour and a half. This movie was just too long, and a sappy love story just seemed out of place in a movie about one of the most important events in US History. But when the attack finally starts, that's where Michael Bay shines the most. Big explosions, gunfire tearing shit to shreds, it's classic M.B.M(Michael Bay Mayhem). It doesn't let up after that. Unfortunately, my copy of Pearl Harbor broke so I'll have to find a replacement.

redqueenar

05-01-2008, 12:39 AM

Kate Beckinsale is the black hole of quality!

I abstain from voting. :p

LadiesMan217

05-01-2008, 06:51 AM

But when the attack finally starts, that's where Michael Bay shines the most.

Even though Pearl is my least favourite Bay-flick and has many flaws, the whole build up to the action and the action sequence itself were fantastic. Calling it a "just a video game sequence with lots of special effects" as some people have done I think it's pretty unfair.

STEPhon IT

05-01-2008, 08:54 PM

I think Pearl Harbor was a good film, and I think Bay grew with that picture.

Smokescreen_5

05-02-2008, 03:28 AM

The part that really brought the movie down was the first hour and a half....... But when the attack finally starts, that's where Michael Bay shines the most. Big explosions, gunfire tearing shit to shreds, it's classic M.B.M(Michael Bay Mayhem).

I don't really think it brought it down at all. It felt more like they were giving it a story line of the happenings of people before it started to show the audience the types of lives people were living, and then showing how it affected peoples lives during and after the Pearl Harbor massacre. I think it was also pretty sweet the way Bay gave the movie a blurring effect when all the wounded were running in the hospital and all the nurses were in disarray as what to do as well as the queazy feeling you could feel from how the wounded were feeling while running in. I loved the whole movie.

On a side note.. one thing I noticed was that the guy who brought the message to Franklin Roosevelt about the Pearl Harbor Massacre is also the Major that was overseeing all of the high school kids in their findings on the Decepticon sound as well as the interception of Frenzy's attack on Air Force One. (the guy who ordered everyone to cut the server hard lines).

meezookeewee

05-02-2008, 10:28 AM

I don't really think it brought it down at all. It felt more like they were giving it a story line of the happenings of people before it started to show the audience the types of lives people were living, and then showing how it affected peoples lives during and after the Pearl Harbor massacre. I think it was also pretty sweet the way Bay gave the movie a blurring effect when all the wounded were running in the hospital and all the nurses were in disarray as what to do as well as the queazy feeling you could feel from how the wounded were feeling while running in. I loved the whole movie.

On a side note.. one thing I noticed was that the guy who brought the message to Theodore Roosevelt about the Pearl Harbor Massacre is also the Major that was overseeing all of the high school kids in their findings on the Decepticon sound as well as the interception of Frenzy's attack on Air Force One. (the guy who ordered everyone to cut the server hard lines).
Correction: It wasn't Teddy Roosevelt. It was Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Another thing that bothered me was that the movie was PG-13. You don't make a war movie PG-13 in this day and age. If you want to portray a war as realistically as possible, a PG-13 movie isn't going to cut it. That being said, I still like Pearl Harbor, despite it's numerous flaws.

LadiesMan217

05-02-2008, 03:00 PM

Correction: It wasn't Teddy Roosevelt. It was Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Another thing that bothered me was that the movie was PG-13. You don't make a war movie PG-13 in this day and age. If you want to portray a war as realistically as possible, a PG-13 movie isn't going to cut it. That being said, I still like Pearl Harbor, despite it's numerous flaws.

Did you see the R-rated Director's Cut?

It didn't make that much of a difference, but it's slightly more violent here and there.