Some of "Stealth" Bumblebee!

[Z28 Autobot]

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[r-type]

Yes. I saw these earlier (http://jalopnik.com/355459/2009-chevy-camaro-caught-in-winter-wonderland-of-detroit-still-blurry). I keep flip flopping from Black to BB paint scheme for my own. Decisions, decisions. :)

[Z28 Autobot]

http://www.5thgen.org/images/SpyShots/2008-02-12/CamaroDetroit2a.jpg

winter camo Bumblebee ;)
http://www.5thgen.org/images/SpyShots/2008-02-12/CamaroDetroit1a.jpg

http://www.5thgen.org/images/SpyShots/2008-02-12/CamaroDetroit6a.jpg

[Z28 Autobot]

Yes. I saw these earlier (http://jalopnik.com/355459/2009-chevy-camaro-caught-in-winter-wonderland-of-detroit-still-blurry). I keep flip flopping from Black to BB paint scheme for my own. Decisions, decisions. :)

your telling me..but I think Im staying with BB..just want a yellow with black stripes car ;)

[r-type]

your telling me..but I think Im staying with BB..just want a yellow with black stripes car ;) I wonder if they are gonna keep the same 3 stage shade of yellow? Any word on that?

[Z28 Autobot]

from what I heard its not going to be exact like BB's..but a nice yellow will be avalible..though they might? If the paint is like the flip flop or greens used in the firebirds from 98-02 it might be possible?? Those greens went from dark green to emerald to purple..so who knows..if they can do it with yellow you might see it..

But my guess is its going to be just a little darker shade of yellow.

[r-type]

Yeah, that green was an iridescent, almost pearl-like finish. That would be cool. Well here's hoping they at least have a 3 stage finish then! Cool.

[Z28 Autobot]

well here is the info so far..

http://www.5thgen.org/images/Colors1.jpg
So apparently someone at a dealer scoped out the color swatches for the new Camaro.

Here is the list:
Chevrolet Camaro WA301N Exterior Red Jewel Met 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA403P Exterior Imperial Blue Met 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA503Q Exterior Ink Slate Met 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA518Q Exterior Mocha Bronze Met 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA636R Exterior Switchblade Silvr Mt 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA638R Exterior Aqua Blue Met 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA8555 Exterior Black 91 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA911L Exterior Dk Tarnishd Slvr Met 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA9260 Exterior Victory Red 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA9414 Exterior Yellow 09 - 09

This is from Scott,

Ladies and Gentlemen.

this is not a complete list. Much of what you see are color codes for vehicles that will be painted at Oshawa -- but I need to remind you that we build several vehicles at the three Oshawa Assembly plants......

There are a couple of colors that are correct. There are some that are missing............

(am I making you crazy yet???http://www.5thgen.org/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif)

sorry -- but have some patience -- and in due time, I think most of you will be pretty happy.


So right now we dont really know but it should be at least these colors..and Yellow is one of them. Andthe right shade of yellow at least to match close to BB :D

[guitarded]

From those shots, it doesn't look like black does any justice to the camaro. Maybe it's the picture quality, and the car is dirty,.... part of the camoflauge. I just feel it was showcased much better in yellow. All the lines were clearly visible. Throw some chrome on the black version to set it apart from a mustang.

I wonder how it looks in red. That was the most popular colour for camaros back in the 60's

[r-type]

well here is the info so far..

http://www.5thgen.org/images/Colors1.jpg
So apparently someone at a dealer scoped out the color swatches for the new Camaro.

Here is the list:
Chevrolet Camaro WA301N Exterior Red Jewel Met 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA403P Exterior Imperial Blue Met 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA503Q Exterior Ink Slate Met 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA518Q Exterior Mocha Bronze Met 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA636R Exterior Switchblade Silvr Mt 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA638R Exterior Aqua Blue Met 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA8555 Exterior Black 91 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA911L Exterior Dk Tarnishd Slvr Met 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA9260 Exterior Victory Red 09 - 09
Chevrolet Camaro WA9414 Exterior Yellow 09 - 09

This is from Scott,


So right now we dont really know but it should be at least these colors..and Yellow is one of them. Andthe right shade of yellow at least to match close to BB :D I know those codes well! :) Thanks for that Z. That yellow is the same paint code as the yellow available on the Cobalt though. But the fact that some colors are still missing keeps me optimistic! Keep an eye out for colors with"tintcoat". That's the 3 stage option. (crosses fingers)

[Z28 Autobot]

its the cobalt yellow?? EEKK oops thats more like tweety bird than bumblebee

http://images.automotive.com/cob/factory_automotive/images/Features/auto_shows/2005_IEAS/2005_Chevrolet_Cobalt_SS_rear2.JPG

still..not a bad color..
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=833&stc=1&d=1174841530

[guitarded]

Hey Z28... I spoke with a contractor at work last night...He just came from the gm plant in Oshawa...said there's a black camaro there with a 600hp 502 motor....thought you'd like to know:)

The company he works for installed the flex line so the Oshawa plant could build the camaro and other cars....but typical gm wasted a pile of money and is building a line for the camaro somewhere in the US. The word is they are trying to help out in the recovery of their recent losses ( company profits, and layoffs)

I just don't know where they are building the line

[Z28 Autobot]

its being built in Canada..no change in that now. Its going to start being built soon.like in 6 months..so they cant stop and ramp up somewhere else. For a Jan. sell date...I actually talk to a guy that works at the plant and is very excited and keeps us up to date on the plants progress.
The plans were to have it built up there for the time and "flex" it into another platform later when the other RWD were to arrive from GM the Buick and the Pontaic.
But the problem is both those got canned and the move to the U.S. was stopped.
What might be built next to the Camaro is the CTS coupe..but thats still not known.



Now the 600HP 502...I raise an eyebrow to..not saying its not true or what he saw. There was a 4th gen ZL1 Camaro made by GM to "play" with in the magazines. It was black and had that HP you stated. That was back in 2000 though.
But why would that be there. Now the other thing is if its a concept toy with a crate engine stuffed in it then it might be real. Maybe for the next SEMA show. But again why would it be there. the 502 does not meet CAFE regs so not sure whats its for but maybe again a show car for the crate engine..like the 4th gen.
they have not made any cars yet so any Camaro out there is from Australia. And limited to testing the car.
Again.. I will shoot an email off to the the guy I talk to who is pretty much the right hand to the father at GM and would give a "true" or "false" to this and debunks all the rumors spreadon the internet. And one reason why is he is very much hands on in this car and whats up with it. If anyone would know he does. :D

and if you want cruise on over to http://www.5thgen.org/forum/customavatars/avatar10_2.gif 5thge.org
The guys that are in the know can help out with the real and not so real of what is Camaro and said emailed freind is a member also on the site :D

[guitarded]

I remember the 4th gen from 2000

I think you might be right Z...What your post says makes more sense. Had you not posted, I was going to say that "the guy" I talked to has little credibility. He told me he took pictures with his camera phone, so I was led to believe,.... but somehow ...magically no less....last night the picture of the camaro had screwed up on his phone....:rolleyes:

anywho, we started talkin cars and he tells me about some crapalier with a spoiler kit he wants to buy.....At that point I just cringed.....he went on to say he was going to put a turbo kit and pump 25psi on the "stock" motor....apparently his "buddy" does it all the time:rolleyes:..I just shook my head and laughed....cause there's no way a factory stock motor not built for a turbo will hold 25 psi with no tuning...hell at 10 psi, with tuning..the motor will run for a while but wear out within a year's worth of abuse....or the piston's will break because of low ring clearance

However, I can still see a one off high hp camaro being done...hell, just for a toy, or show purposes....just like the chevy belair with 8 turbos if I remember correctly. Extremely well built car, but not practical. If I can dig out the link I'll post it in another thread.

And if you want some scoop on Hemi trucks;)....check out www.hemitruckclub.com haven't logged on there in a while, but there's some good folk on that sight .... I have the same username there

[Z28 Autobot]

very cool site :)

love the way the trucks look just got it right in so many ways.

and thanks for debunking the rumor yourself. Got an email back and it basically said no its not true and if any 502 Camaro is there its not a 5th gen..

And actually I thought you were onto a scoop as there is going to be a special Camaro thats going to be around soon thats going to be alot of fun..but I guess its not a 502 Rat motor but something else..

Again thanks for the heads up on calling him out! Gotta keep the truth flowing and the crap where it belongs..in the toilet ;)

[guitarded]

There's been all kinds of talk about motion performanc/baldwin motion. Hell someone even mentioned yenko. but I don't know who has the rights to these names. These are of course from the rumour mill.

For now, I'll just wait and see what they do with an SS

[r-type]

More shots of BB Noir!!

Link (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3139)

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4000&d=1205192329

[guitarded]

More shots of BB Noir!!

Link (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3139)

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4000&d=1205192329

I'm sorry, but black just does not look good on this car. It needs some chrome...on the wheels, headlight/taillight bezels, and maybe even chrome door handles. Not sure about the bumpers...but there will be plenty of aftermarket...that's for damn sure

[r-type]

I have to disagree with black not working. I can be all about the monochrome. (just look at my truck:)) In fact, if I don't go BB edition, I'll most likely sticking to black, with the addition of flat racing stripes.

The rims though, yeah, those are sad and I'll probably swap those out asap.

Also, bear in mind that it's missing a few items off the bat in this pre-prodution model. The grille has no Bowtie. The badges are missing. Who knows what else is missing.

[guitarded]

I have to disagree with black not working. I can be all about the monochrome. (just look at my truck:)) In fact, if I don't go BB edition, I'll most likely sticking to black, with the addition of flat racing stripes.

The rims though, yeah, those are sad and I'll probably swap those out asap.

Also, bear in mind that it's missing a few items off the bat in this pre-prodution model. The grille has no Bowtie. The badges are missing. Who knows what else is missing.


yah, noticed the missing badges and stuff. Just not enough contrast to enhance the look of the vehicle. I still prefer the orange convertible version that I posted. Yellow for sure, and Red will probably look good as well.

From the rear, it looks like a corvette, and I'm not big on the way it curves out. But we'll see what they change.

Where's your truck?...in the "what do you drive" thread...I'll take a look

EDIT* took a look. I see you did the debadging thing a lot of people do. A lot of Hemi owners do the same thing. Looks good! Any mods under the hood?

[r-type]

EDIT* took a look. I see you did the debadging thing a lot of people do. A lot of Hemi owners do the same thing. Looks good! Any mods under the hood?Sadly, it's more show than go for this one. Nothing to write home about. I kept it pretty much stock under the hood, as I don't use this one to tow. It's my daily driver/parts hauler. (143k miles).

[guitarded]

Sadly, it's more show than go for this one. Nothing to write home about. I kept it pretty much stock under the hood, as I don't use this one to tow. It's my daily driver/parts hauler. (143k miles).

All the more reason to get some more hp out of it. if you're gonna spend a lot of time in it, you might as well have some fun too. That's the way I treat mine. I spent quite a bit on the turbo kit, but I installed it myself. Buddy of mine sent me a base tune for the piggy back computer, but I tuned the rest. I have 4.56 gears in it as well, and I'll take some pics at the machine shop tommorrow, of the motor that'll be going into the truck early spring :)

I know trucks are hard on gas, and some people don't want the hassle of high performance engines, especially in a heavy truck. But with a cold-air intake, and free flowing exhaust, and a slightly steeper gear ratio, you will see gas savings. I'm not shittin yah.

If you add headers, and slightly larger exhaust system (not the soup can mufflers you see on hondas) you will add roughly another 30-50 miles or more on a tank of gas. And you'll also add about 30 hp.....win - win :cool:

Case in point. I bought Kim an 03 jeep liberty renegade. It has a 3.7 litre engine with about 100,000 km. I fabricated a cai, and put my old truck exhaust on it. I cut the bends and rewelded the pipes to fit on the jeep. the pipes are 1/4" larger in diameter than what the stock jeep exhaust was. I put on a magnaflow muffler as well, and the mileage went from 420 km to a tank, to 500km to a tank. That's roughly 50 miles to the tank increase. Why car manufacturers don't do this at the factory is beyond me

P.S...light mods, such as headers, and exhaust will not affect reliability. The ecu will accomodate for minor changes, and for those with newer vehicles, warranty is not affected either. Don't let Dealerships fool you. The only thing that will void warranty for sure is a K&N air filter,...so just put the stock one back in when you take it to the dealer ;)

[r-type]

All the more reason to get some more hp out of it. if you're gonna spend a lot of time in it, you might as well have some fun too. That's the way I treat mine. I spent quite a bit on the turbo kit, but I installed it myself. Buddy of mine sent me a base tune for the piggy back computer, but I tuned the rest. I have 4.56 gears in it as well, and I'll take some pics at the machine shop tommorrow, of the motor that'll be going into the truck early spring :)

I know trucks are hard on gas, and some people don't want the hassle of high performance engines, especially in a heavy truck. But with a cold-air intake, and free flowing exhaust, and a slightly steeper gear ratio, you will see gas savings. I'm not shittin yah.

If you add headers, and slightly larger exhaust system (not the soup can mufflers you see on hondas) you will add roughly another 30-50 miles or more on a tank of gas. And you'll also add about 30 hp.....win - win :cool:

Case in point. I bought Kim an 03 jeep liberty renegade. It has a 3.7 litre engine with about 100,000 km. I fabricated a cai, and put my old truck exhaust on it. I cut the bends and rewelded the pipes to fit on the jeep. the pipes are 1/4" larger in diameter than what the stock jeep exhaust was. I put on a magnaflow muffler as well, and the mileage went from 420 km to a tank, to 500km to a tank. That's roughly 50 miles to the tank increase. Why car manufacturers don't do this at the factory is beyond me

P.S...light mods, such as headers, and exhaust will not affect reliability. The ecu will accomodate for minor changes, and for those with newer vehicles, warranty is not affected either. Don't let Dealerships fool you. The only thing that will void warranty for sure is a K&N air filter,...so just put the stock one back in when you take it to the dealer ;)Funny you mention that. I was considering upgrading the exhaust. But that's really about it. The ship has sailed on putting any serious $$ under the hood for this truck. (besides, I've got my older "toys" eating up all of my attention at the moment, and the new Camaro is around the corner ;) )

Incidently, I used to have an all-black '81 Silverado with a 454 under the hood (I miss that truck).

I'm a paint and body guy, so I spend more of my days focusing on appearance now.

[r-type]

Camaro in Velocity Yellow (http://jalopnik.com/371330/2010-chevy-camaro-caught-wearing-velocity-yellow) (click for more pics)

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/03/2010-Chevy-Camaro-Yellow-1.jpg

[r-type]

Bumblebee "kitted" out. (Read: GM Accessories prototype)

Link (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3425) (with more images)

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4311&d=1206690516

[Z28 Autobot]

There is cliffjumper

[Z28 Autobot]

and just an FYI..not all of these aregoing to make it onto the car..just ideas and test fittings.. :D

[uraydo]

Bumblebee "kitted" out. (Read: GM Accessories prototype)

Link (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3425) (with more images)

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4311&d=1206690516
that fake grill makes it look like a movie theater standie.

[Z28 Autobot]

thats about the extent of the car. Man it is a standie.. It has no engine or interior. And in fact it might be full of clay ;)

looks like the proto clay car that GM had rolling around the design studio.

[Xaniss]

I love this car when I first saw it but I gotta agree with guitarded about the black though - I feel that colour doesn't do justice to such an awesome machine...

..now the convertible in orange with black racing strips - sweet as candy :D

Even the silver looks better than the black and that's a shame cos black is downright sexy... put it this way, in MY opinion black looks better on the s281 than the Camaro hehe ;)

[HailStorm]

Do we know when we can offically order this vehicle?

[Devastator]

I'll take the black with silver bumble-rally stripes please.

[Z28 Autobot]

Do we know when we can offically order this vehicle?

No one really knows just yet but here:



" Circle Monday, February 16, 2009 on your calendar as the date the new 2010 Camaros will start heading down the production line at the Oshawa plant in Ontario.
November 2008 is when you can start ordering them.
In actuality, this means it will more than likely be mid-March before you'll be able to put your hands on one at a dealership."