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michaelbay
09-17-2007, 09:15 PM
I saw the IMAX print and it is awesome! It is the future of cinema to see movies in this format. I'm going to see Tranformers one last time and get ready to gear up for Transformers 2. I added two minutes of stuff for IMAX that will never make into any DVD's. There will never be an extended edition.

About the DVD. I like the two disc set. It has all the extras that the others don't have. It is the definitive edition of Transformers. It really breaks down how we made the movie.

Anyway hope you like the IMAX print!

Bay

TIMtationX
09-17-2007, 09:37 PM
Well that pretty much sucks if you don't live near an IMAX theater. And i fall into that category.

Devastator
09-17-2007, 09:40 PM
I added two minutes of stuff for IMAX that will never make into any DVD's. There will never be an extended edition.

:eek:

That really sucks. I cant even see the IMAX version because i live in Shitville, Ky where we only get 1 IMAX release at a time and its that damn HP movie now. On top of that they fuck you even more because they say its all directors hall seating which is $15 a seat.:mad:

You say never but I bet in the future there will be. I see these dvd's selling like Star Wars with their re-re-re-re-release extra special directors uncut extended version.;)

MitP
09-17-2007, 09:57 PM
I saw the IMAX print and it is awesome! It is the future of cinema to see movies in this format. I'm going to see Tranformers one last time and get ready to gear up for Transformers 2. I added two minutes of stuff for IMAX that will never make into any DVD's. There will never be an extended edition.

Bummer. But then again, now I'll be able to pick up the two-disc set without worrying about a possible "second dip" by the studios.:D

And best of luck with TRANSFORMERS 2! Beat that strike!

Galvatron
09-17-2007, 10:40 PM
I saw the IMAX print and it is awesome! It is the future of cinema to see movies in this format. I'm going to see Tranformers one last time and get ready to gear up for Transformers 2. I added two minutes of stuff for IMAX that will never make into any DVD's. There will never be an extended edition.

About the DVD. I like the two disc set. It has all the extras that the others don't have. It is the definitive edition of Transformers. It really breaks down how we made the movie.

Anyway hope you like the IMAX print!

Bay

Ha!

Well, I saw it in the regular theater four times so even if it's 50% better it's worth it, hell, even the regular version is worth it of course but in Imax it's going to ROCK! I just got my tickets today and there were already a couple of showings in my area sold out a few days ago. October 3rd and 4th are sold out.
I'm going to the Imax version at least twice possibly more.

sora
09-17-2007, 11:15 PM
I added two minutes of stuff for IMAX that will never make into any DVD's. There will never be an extended edition.

That means ... we must not miss the extra two minutes in the IMAX edition. As for me, it will be a great excuse to see it at least twice.


I just got my tickets today and there were already a couple of showings in my area sold out a few days ago.

I luckily got my tickets too. I can hardly wait to see it. :D

AllThatJazz
09-18-2007, 12:47 AM
Well that pretty much sucks if you don't live near an IMAX theater.
Tell me about it... :(

halofan1
09-18-2007, 01:20 AM
I'm there Friday. Look forward to it.

Buying the DVD at midnight.

devonnewberry
09-18-2007, 02:07 AM
It's gonna be badass!! I'm so stoked! IMAX and 2-Disc DVD baby!!

brAnd7onX
09-18-2007, 02:12 AM
I'm not going to be able to catch the IMAX show on friday or saturday but im hoping to go on either sunday or monday! btw is there any word how long this is going to be out in IMAX? past october hopefully???

mkgenie4000
09-18-2007, 03:26 AM
I saw the IMAX print and it is awesome! It is the future of cinema to see movies in this format. I'm going to see Tranformers one last time and get ready to gear up for Transformers 2. I added two minutes of stuff for IMAX that will never make into any DVD's. There will never be an extended edition.

About the DVD. I like the two disc set. It has all the extras that the others don't have. It is the definitive edition of Transformers. It really breaks down how we made the movie.

Anyway hope you like the IMAX print!

Bay

well, Mike, I have been expecting an extended edition...

why not?

At least the IMAX edition, I mean, the whole movie with more footages, some kind of extended edition...

since we don't have IMAX theater in town.

its unfair....well.

LadiesMan217
09-18-2007, 04:35 AM
I'm going to see Tranformers one last time and get ready to gear up for Transformers 2. I added two minutes of stuff for IMAX that will never make into any DVD's. There will never be an extended edition.

Awesome.

And nice that there will be no extended version. The theatrical cut is the one I loved and the one I want to see over and over again. Extended cuts can fuck off :p

Dennis M
09-18-2007, 07:12 AM
Looking forwarded to seeing the IMAX print. Already bought my tickets.:D
Wish all theaters could be IMAX, the presentation is just outstanding.

This will tie me over until my HD DVD arrives.:)

Galvatron
09-18-2007, 07:12 AM
I would have no problem buying an extended version in the future it just depends what the extra footage is and we will find out this Friday evening! The public should be able to choose to be able to switch back and forth from the theatrical to the extended version on it though.

Universal Kalle
09-18-2007, 07:44 AM
This totally blows. I live in Sweden and the closest IMAX (that's showing TF) is in the United Kingdoms. With my income there's no way in hell I'll be able to afford airplane tickets, bus/train fare, possible hotel costs and theatre tickets to see TF.

I would however buy an extended edition in a heartbeat even if I already owned the 2-disc edition.

Double
09-18-2007, 09:40 AM
"I added two minutes of stuff for IMAX that will never make into any DVD's. There will never be an extended edition."

Gee Thanks. Also, wasn't it just acouple weeks ago someone said there were no plans to release the Jablonski Score?

"About the DVD. I like the two disc set. It has all the extras that the others don't have. It is the definitive edition of Transformers. It really breaks down how we made the movie."

That's good, considering I was screwed out of the Blu-Ray version, and have to buy standard DVD anyway.

fu2kimus_prime
09-18-2007, 09:42 AM
Good to know, I'll be seeing it on IMAX as soon as I can. And have the 2 disc DVD on pre-order, looking forward to the extra features.

nelson
09-18-2007, 09:46 AM
Also, wasn't it just acouple weeks ago someone said there were no plans to release the Jablonski Score?


Not officially...

Trigger Mike
09-18-2007, 11:42 AM
Going to have to check this film out (again) in IMAX.

I feel it's going to be a looong wait for the Blu-ray version, so I better see it again while I can. :)

hudemx
09-18-2007, 12:36 PM
I want to see the IMAX Version!!
DAMN - why do I have to live in Austria??

brAnd7onX
09-18-2007, 01:26 PM
This totally blows. I live in Sweden and the closest IMAX (that's showing TF) is in the United Kingdoms. With my income there's no way in hell I'll be able to afford airplane tickets, bus/train fare, possible hotel costs and theatre tickets to see TF.

I would however buy an extended edition in a heartbeat even if I already owned the 2-disc edition.

theres actually going to be an IMAX show in france if you want to catch it that far. you know the people in Europe have it bad for this IMAX release but i think the people in the U.S. need to stop complaining and just go travel 50 or 100 miles to go see it in IMAX. I know I would if I didn't have one near me. make it a road trip.

nelson
09-18-2007, 02:03 PM
theres actually going to be an IMAX show in france if you want to catch it that far. you know the people in Europe have it bad for this IMAX release but i think the people in the U.S. need to stop complaining and just go travel 50 or 100 miles to go see it in IMAX. I know I would if I didn't have one near me. make it a road trip.

I heard they're not showing it in France (http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102) due to the French IMAX owners being cheap.

Specter
09-18-2007, 02:28 PM
I added two minutes of stuff for IMAX that will never make into any DVD's. There will never be an extended edition.

I currently have my tickets for the IMAX print of Transformers for this Friday at around 6:30. Got a couple of tickets for it about a week or so ago. It's costing me $27.50 for myself and my girlfriend.

To know that I won't be seeing those two minutes of Transformers ever again will make it all the more important that I see and cherish this time. However, I feel that, if I can spend $27.50 on a couple of tickets for one screening... surely I can spend equally as much, or more so, on a DVD that includes those minutes of footage.

Especially if it is more interaction with the Autobots / Decepticons. That is something that I would love more than anything.

uraydo
09-18-2007, 07:12 PM
I saw the IMAX print and it is awesome! It is the future of cinema to see movies in this format. I'm going to see Tranformers one last time and get ready to gear up for Transformers 2. I added two minutes of stuff for IMAX that will never make into any DVD's. There will never be an extended edition.

About the DVD. I like the two disc set. It has all the extras that the others don't have. It is the definitive edition of Transformers. It really breaks down how we made the movie.

Anyway hope you like the IMAX print!

Bay so.......... I'll never get a chance to see this footage....... good to know.

MitP
09-19-2007, 08:10 AM
so.......... I'll never get a chance to see this footage....... good to know.

You're not missing out on much. Apparently, it's just more "human stuff".

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=151567

:rolleyes:

nelson
09-19-2007, 08:23 AM
You're not missing out on much. Apparently, it's just more "human stuff".

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=151567

:rolleyes:


Are you sure that's IMAX stuff or scenes that just ended up in the cutting room floor?

uraydo
09-19-2007, 08:52 AM
Are you sure that's IMAX stuff or scenes that just ended up in the cutting room floor?

Either way, this added footage only benefits people who can actually make it out to an IMAX. Also, this footage will only offer a limited experience since it will not be shown anywhere else.

Even if I was at all interested in seeing this movie at an IMAX, I would find it hard to support something so elitist.

MitP
09-19-2007, 09:32 AM
Are you sure that's IMAX stuff or scenes that just ended up in the cutting room floor?

Correction: Those pics AREN'T from the IMAX version. My bad.

Still, it remains to be seen whether we see more giant f***ing robots or more puny humans.

Jarek Zabczynski
09-19-2007, 09:41 AM
With all do respect to Michael and the production team, I really don't think anyone cares about seeing additional "human" scenes in this film. To tout about additional footage you really need to be talking about showing more bots and action or just don't bother at all.

nelson
09-19-2007, 11:06 AM
On a side note regarding not enough CGI robots...

I was just viewing Siskel and Ebert's review of Armageddon. You can view it here (http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista/ebertandroeper/) (and the complete S&E archive from 86 to present). One of the complaints: not enough human characters. Bwahahahah.

MitP
09-19-2007, 01:07 PM
On a side note regarding not enough CGI robots...

I was just viewing Siskel and Ebert's review of Armageddon. You can view it here (http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista/ebertandroeper/) (and the complete S&E archive from 86 to present). One of the complaints: not enough human characters. Bwahahahah.

Siskel mentioned the "lack of a human element", not how many human characters there were. Even though the movie was populated with a huge cast, Siskel probably felt they might as well have been mannequins.

TRANSFORMERS has a different problem. It's not that the human characters are shallow; it's because there's too many of them, reducing the title robots to supporting players in their own movie.

(BTW, Siskel's feelings towards ARMAGEDDON are so similar to my own it's eerie. :D)

brAnd7onX
09-19-2007, 01:13 PM
I heard they're not showing it in France (http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102) due to the French IMAX owners being cheap.

errr i hate the french! no offense to anyone who is french here.

brAnd7onX
09-19-2007, 01:15 PM
i like how everyone is talking about the 2 minutes of extra footage. honestlyyyyyyyyyy i could care less about those 2 minutes. IM GONNA SEE GIANT FUCKEN ROBOTS ON A GIANT FUCKEN SCREEN WITH GIANT FUCKEN SOUND!

nelson
09-19-2007, 01:34 PM
TRANSFORMERS has a different problem. It's not that the human characters are shallow; it's because there's too many of them, reducing the title robots to supporting players in their own movie.


I said this from day one: there was never going to be character archs on all dozen or so robots.

Just like the shark wasn't then main role in Jaws and the dinos in Jurassic Park. There is no way I would fucking sit through 2.5 hours of all robot talk and action.

MitP
09-19-2007, 03:19 PM
I said this from day one: there was never going to be character archs on all dozen or so robots.

Just like the shark wasn't then main role in Jaws and the dinos in Jurassic Park. There is no way I would fucking sit through 2.5 hours of all robot talk and action.

Nobody's asking you to. But there's a big difference between a shark who can't talk and a 15-foot-tall sentient robot who's capable of articulating his thoughts and emotions.

I'm just saying that the scale was unfairly tipped in favour of the humans, and the majority of the human characters were either annoying or completely unneccessary (i.e. Maggie and her fellow computer hackers).

Michael can continue to develop key figures like Sam, Mikaela, Lennox, and Epps in the sequel, but for heaven's sake leave Maggie and her comrades for the birds. Give some room to a few Autobot/Decepticon newcomers - that's what the crowds are ultimately paying for, anyway.

nelson
09-19-2007, 03:26 PM
Nobody's asking you to. But there's a big difference between a shark who can't talk and a 15-foot-tall sentient robot who's capable of articulating his thoughts and emotions.


Aside from Kubrick and TF geeks, not many people want to sit down and watch 2 hours of robot/machine talk.

If you look at the whole movie, the hacking on behalf of the Decepticons plot was needed as was the Maggie's character. Whether they should focused on it the amoun of time they did is another thread.

LadiesMan217
09-19-2007, 03:41 PM
Siskel mentioned the "lack of a human element", not how many human characters there were. Even though the movie was populated with a huge cast, Siskel probably felt they might as well have been mannequins.

TRANSFORMERS has a different problem. It's not that the human characters are shallow; it's because there's too many of them, reducing the title robots to supporting players in their own movie.

(BTW, Siskel's feelings towards ARMAGEDDON are so similar to my own it's eerie. :D)

Siskel and Ebert were good critics, and Siskel were right on the money. "If you get into the mood of this picture it's surprisingly entertaining and amusing" which is way better than Ebert saying how loud and fast cut the movie is, like anybody wanting to see it would care.

As for Transformers, I didn't have a problem with the amount of human characters. Like Nelson said, a 150 minute movie with just robots in the lead wouldn't work. It was all about build-up and anticipation; Optimus Prime shows up at the perfect moment making more of an impression than if he was going to show up in the very first shot of the movie. It worked as an introduction to this whole franchise, and I'm sure there will be more scenes involving the Autobots/Decepticons in the sequel.

MitP
09-19-2007, 04:06 PM
As for Transformers, I didn't have a problem with the amount of human characters. Like Nelson said, a 150 minute movie with just robots in the lead wouldn't work. It was all about build-up and anticipation; Optimus Prime shows up at the perfect moment making more of an impression than if he was going to show up in the very first shot of the movie.

Oh, I'm not going to argue with that. Somebody as iconic as Prime deserves his own build-up; I've already stated that the arrival of the Autobots on Earth and Optimus's first major transformation on-screen are among my favourite moments from the film. It's only the particular characters the script chose to saddle us with that I dislike. The presense of Maggie and Co., in addition to Jon Voight's defense secretary, wasn't what slowed down the movie's pacing - it was the amount of time GIVEN to them.

Jarek Zabczynski
09-19-2007, 06:53 PM
I said this from day one: there was never going to be character archs on all dozen or so robots.

Just like the shark wasn't then main role in Jaws and the dinos in Jurassic Park. There is no way I would fucking sit through 2.5 hours of all robot talk and action.

Sharks and Dinos are not characters. Transformers are. They should be treated no different than human characters. A Transformers film should be about Transformers first and humans second.

Jarek Zabczynski
09-19-2007, 06:56 PM
Aside from Kubrick and TF geeks, not many people want to sit down and watch 2 hours of robot/machine talk.

If you look at the whole movie, the hacking on behalf of the Decepticons plot was needed as was the Maggie's character. Whether they should focused on it the amoun of time they did is another thread.

See, that's your problem, you still think of them as machines. Transformers are just like people, only they happen to be made of metal and transform into shit. Then again I keep forgetting that you aren't a fan. :rolleyes:

TIMtationX
09-19-2007, 07:34 PM
With all do respect to Michael and the production team, I really don't think anyone cares about seeing additional "human" scenes in this film. To tout about additional footage you really need to be talking about showing more bots and action or just don't bother at all.

AGREES!!!!!!

Trigger Mike
09-19-2007, 10:59 PM
With all do respect to Michael and the production team, I really don't think anyone cares about seeing additional "human" scenes in this film.

Sure the robots were cool, but one of the biggest surprises with this film was the character dynamics. Most of the reviews made note of the outstanding VFX, but went on to say the real surprise in the film is the comedy and banter between the characters. I tend to agree with them.

I was very satisfied with my robot carnage, but I could always go for a few more great character moments.


Sharks and Dinos are not characters.

Hate to disagree with you. One of Spielberg's biggest concerns with Jurassic Park was making sure he showed each dinosaur as an individual character - a creature with an individual personality just like a human.

Now, while I don't think he took this approach with Jaws, the shark is still very much a character.


Transformers are.

Absolutely. Transformers are characters. Humans are characters. And yes, Sharks and Dinos are characters.

sora
09-19-2007, 11:31 PM
IMO the mixing ratio between humans and bots in this movie was perfect.
The great performance by human actors/actresses made one final push to breathe life into our beloved robots.
VFX in this movie was uber excellent , but if there ware only bots scenes, people might feel "Oh, just another one of beautiful CG movies".

Hopes up. I don't think Michael and crews have added unnecessary two minutes. ;)

nelson
09-20-2007, 06:00 AM
See, that's your problem, you still think of them as machines. Transformers are just like people, only they happen to be made of metal and transform into shit.

Only to geeks and not the majority of the general audience.

I can not tell you how many people I've met that have told me "Jeez, I realy liked this movie...and here I thought it was going to be all about robots and no human story to it....glad they only focused on 2 robots."

I know they can and will have more robot/scenes and dialogue, but never to the point where we will have 90 pages of robot dialougue.

Galvatron
09-20-2007, 08:15 AM
Again people seem to forget that this takes place on earth so yes there does need to be a significant amount of human characters in the story especially the first movie where it is trying to set up a lot of things going on. Maggies screen time wasn't that much and in the old site someone was bitching that Bernie Mac's scene was too long, please, it was five minutes long which is a ridiculous scene to complain about.

For a 150 million dollar movie it was well pulled off and someone could have thrown another 100 million dollars to the budget and it doesn't necessarily mean that more bot scenes would make it better, it just depends upon what would have been created.

halofan1
09-20-2007, 10:15 AM
There are more human scenes in the IMAX version from what I understand.

Doesn't matter. I'll be there tomorrow at 1:00 PM.

uraydo
09-20-2007, 01:29 PM
I can not tell you how many people I've met that have told me "Jeez, I realy liked this movie...and here I thought it was going to be all about robots and no human story to it....glad they only focused on 2 robots."



well, it would be in total contrast to the concerns I have encountered.

AllThatJazz
09-20-2007, 03:18 PM
I don't have a problem with the number of human characters in the movie, i enjoyed their parts.


I can not tell you how many people I've met that have told me "Jeez, I realy liked this movie...and here I thought it was going to be all about robots and no human story to it....glad they only focused on 2 robots".
Well, that's exatly what imo was wrong with this movie, as i said a have no problem with the humans, but with the exception of BB and Optimus none of the others transformers got a decent characterization.
I don't want to see 2 and a half hours of robots talking, but at least i'd like to know who they are and how they feel about the situation.

jasonkidd382003
09-20-2007, 04:24 PM
I am so damn mad!!! I was so excited when I heard that Transformers will be out on IMAX, but guess what, not all IMAX will screen Transformers....


"IMAX Sydney will not be screening Transformers at the theatre. Thank you however for your enquiry."


What's going on!!??? Why isnt IMAX in Sydney showing it!!!?? I believe the only IMAX in Australia that will have the movie playing is in Melbourne. Disappointing. Very very disappointing!!! Looks like the only way to see this movie is to buy the DVDs and watch it on a bloody 20" television screen with a pair crappy speakers!! :mad:

Specter
09-21-2007, 09:27 AM
Only to geeks and not the majority of the general audience.

I can not tell you how many people I've met that have told me "Jeez, I realy liked this movie...and here I thought it was going to be all about robots and no human story to it....glad they only focused on 2 robots."

I know they can and will have more robot/scenes and dialogue, but never to the point where we will have 90 pages of robot dialougue.
The general audience felt that there was not enough character development. To solve that, development would have to happen among the Transformers, and not the humans.

All I can say is, 90 pages of robot dialogue? Bring it on! If humans are to be involved make the sequel 75% transformers/25% humans. Even if a bit of it involves new Transformers crash landing the Ark on earth to establish the Autobot base.

nelson
09-21-2007, 10:11 AM
The general audience felt that there was not enough character development. To solve that, development would have to happen among the Transformers, and not the humans.

Geeks do not equal the general audience.

The general audience doesn't care about character development, all they care is about characters which appeal to them which can be achieved through spartan means and not 90 minute character archs.


All I can say is, 90 pages of robot dialogue? Bring it on! If humans are to be involved make the sequel 75% transformers/25% humans. Even if a bit of it involves new Transformers crash landing the Ark on earth to establish the Autobot base.

Thankfully the fillmakers don't want Transformers: The Robots Jox version.

OmarB
09-21-2007, 10:28 AM
I got the email yesterday informing me that I won 2 tickets to the TF IMAX! Thank you Bay, studio, everyone else involved. I'll be taking my gf in a couple of days.

Specter
09-21-2007, 10:54 AM
Geeks do not equal the general audience.
Geeks are not the general audience, but the general audience is made up of geeks of all types. Geek is just a label that is tossed about to label groups of fans that surround any topic that is labeled: Fantasy, Sci-Fi, or Computers. And yet Star Wars, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Spider-Man, and Pirates are all in among the top grossing films of all time. With more Transformers, where Autobots become characters instead of merely robots that transform, they can become as real to us as R2-D2, C-3PO, Yoda and Gollum.


The general audience doesn't care about character development, all they care is about characters which appeal to them which can be achieved through spartan means and not 90 minute character archs.
That's why Lord of the Rings developed about 10 or 15 characters over the course of three films and all three became high grossing films? Granted, it's all because of the source material, but the point is: the audience has patience for character development. Look at Batman Begins as another prime example. You don't even SEE Batman for about the first hour or so of the film. Nothing but build-up. Look at The Shawshank Redemption. It builds up characters all throughout to the point where you feel you know just about everyone.

Why are TV shows like Heroes and Lost and The Office so popular? Because they are entertaining and they take the time to build characters. That way, when the tension comes, you have tension for a reason. You care about what happens to them.


Thankfully the fillmakers don't want Transformers: The Robots Jox version.
That's kind of short-sighted. If someone has a love for a property, they have the potential to create Lord of the Rings. If someone is all about car chases and explosions, you get Gone in 60 Seconds and The Fast and the Furious. People can care about sentient robots, people can even care about toys and cars: Star Wars, Toy Story, Cars, Short Circuit, Flight of the Navigator, Terminator 2 to name a few.

Anyway, I'm just hoping that the filmmakers have the guts to give the "geeks" what they want. The general audience, by now, has made up their mind about whether or not they will take Transformers seriously; and let's be honest, it's giant alien robots that can transform. It's already kind of silly. Anyway, I'm off to work and then to see the Transformers IMAX version at 6:30.

nelson
09-21-2007, 11:09 AM
Geeks are not the general audience, but the general audience is made up of geeks of all types. Geek is just a label that is tossed about to label groups of fans that surround any topic that is labeled: Fantasy, Sci-Fi, or Computers. And yet Star Wars, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Spider-Man, and Pirates are all in among the top grossing films of all time.[quote]

Aside from LOTR & SW, the people who are the majority for these summer films like POTC, SM and TF are people who like blockbuster summer movies and in the case of TF, people with a bit of nostalgia for 80s cartoons and toys.

[quote]they can become as real to us as R2-D2, C-3PO, Yoda and Gollum.

They were real to you? :p


the audience has patience for character development. Look at Batman Begins as another prime example. You don't even SEE Batman for about the first hour or so of the film. Nothing but build-up. Look at The Shawshank Redemption. It builds up characters all throughout to the point where you feel you know just about everyone.

You're comparing TF to different movies made for different audiences.


Why are TV shows like Heroes and Lost and The Office so popular?

Because there's nothing else interesting to watch Monday nights aside from 24? ;)


Because they are entertaining and they take the time to build characters. That way, when the tension comes, you have tension for a reason. You care about what happens to them.

That's because it's marketed as a drama and not an action movie. They are two different audiences.

The general audience associates TF with action, explosions, and robots fighting. Drama and deep character archs are not a selling point.


Anyway, I'm just hoping that the filmmakers have the guts to give the "geeks" what they want.

That would be like making Jurassic Park for paleontoloist and Jaws for oceanographers only: a bad business decision.

uraydo
09-21-2007, 11:22 AM
They were real to you? :p




I know this comment was not directed at me, but they where as real as Obi-won, Luck Skywalker, and Frodo Baggins. (forgive me for any misspelling)

wheeljack
09-21-2007, 12:59 PM
Well I have to say it sucks that the extra scenes won't be on the DVD, as I'm not sure I'll be able to make an IMAX screening.

Specter
09-21-2007, 01:37 PM
The general audience associates TF with action, explosions, and robots fighting. Drama and deep character archs are not a selling point.
Imagine the possibilities of breaking the mold. Taking Transformers outside of the box. Basically, putting Transformers into an Action-Drama. Kinda like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: the Movie, or TMNT. Thus far, the filmmakers have created the most realistic looking robots to hit the screen, now stretch the acting chops of the animators to create something more epic. Give people more than they thought they'd get. Make it a driven thrill ride.

24 is a really good show, too, by the way.

nelson
09-21-2007, 02:01 PM
Imagine the possibilities of breaking the mold. Taking Transformers outside of the box.

Sure, if it was a $40 million CGI flick.

But, I don't see the point if it doesn't contribute to the bottomline....on this level of investment. You run the risk of alienating a huge audience like The Matrix 2 & 3 did (which marely manage to break even and go out on a wimper). And look at SM3, so many characters and development and at the end of the day it sucked.

Devastator
09-21-2007, 02:54 PM
Keep the same formula. If ain't broke don't fix it. I don't think you can compare TF to any movie ever made as of now. It's different, thats why it wowed people. To please everyone you would have to pull back from the robot action/transforming, higher a better actress not just a pretty face for a lead role, a longer car chase scene, and a few other things that are very minor. I cant believe people are still complaining about it. Its not flawless but who makes a flawless movie anymore? Enjoy it for what it is and stop nitpicking.

As far as I'm concerned since I cant see the IMAX version, what I seen in the theater is the movie. Other than that, any new scenes of whatever is fine on plain old DVD.

halofan1
09-21-2007, 05:44 PM
Saw it today.

Honestly, the new scenes don't add much. That's not to say they're bad, there's a few I really liked. There's one I felt did NOT belong at all (it's toward the end) but the others were mostly welcome.

Overall, the experience was well worth it and I do suggest everyone check it out. Personally, I'm hoping Bay releases all his future big budget movies in the format.

Film Freak
09-21-2007, 07:08 PM
Saw it today.

Honestly, the new scenes don't add much. That's not to say they're bad, there's a few I really liked. There's one I felt did NOT belong at all (it's toward the end) but the others were mostly welcome.

Overall, the experience was well worth it and I do suggest everyone check it out. Personally, I'm hoping Bay releases all his future big budget movies in the format.

I live in France where the only IMAX theater won't be playing it and since Mr. Bay chose not to feature the extra footage on the DVD, could you summarize those additionnal scenes for me (and others I guess) please?

Sillypuddy
09-21-2007, 07:17 PM
has anybody seen it yet???????? I have to drive 90 miles for imax:eek:---WHAT HAPPENS????

Sillypuddy
09-21-2007, 07:19 PM
maybe I should have the previous two posts...nevermind...

Xsubs
09-21-2007, 10:01 PM
has anybody seen it yet???????? I have to drive 90 miles for imax:eek:---WHAT HAPPENS????

Well there were no extra bot battles/scenes. Just some extra human scenes.

AllThatJazz
09-21-2007, 10:19 PM
I live in France where the only IMAX theater won't be playing it and since Mr. Bay chose not to feature the extra footage on the DVD, could you summarize those additionnal scenes for me (and others I guess) please?
Here :http://seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=11646

halofan1
09-21-2007, 10:51 PM
I live in France where the only IMAX theater won't be playing it and since Mr. Bay chose not to feature the extra footage on the DVD, could you summarize those additionnal scenes for me (and others I guess) please?


SPOILER ALERT (just doing this in case):

There's one where Sam pulls up in front of Miles' house. Not too bad I guess. I lived it without it, but I can live with it.
The next is with the goofy cop showing Sam and his dad the Rachel Leigh Cook drug free ad. He then gives them drug free stickers and such. Enjoyed it, but see why it was cut.
There's a little bit more of the FBI chasing down Glen's cousin. Nothing really different.
The new stuff with Simmons is really the best of the new stuff. He gives Sam an eye exam and then later when they go to Sector 7, he asks Lennox "Heard of Area 51? This is Area 50." He also gives a speech about presidents who have seen the AllSpark and Sector 7.
Finally, before the final battle, there's a scene where Lennox goes into a pawn shop to get the radios and gets into an argument with the owner. Really wish this had stayed out of this version too. It's not a bad scene...it just doesn't really go with the flow of the rest of the film.

All in all, I was just happy to get the movie on IMAX.

Film Freak
09-22-2007, 09:01 AM
Thanks a lot.

All things considered, there's nothing to regret.

AllThatJazz
09-22-2007, 03:20 PM
All things considered, there's nothing to regret.
Yeah, since I won't able to see the movie in IMAX, I'm happy that the addittional scenes are all humans.

r-type
09-26-2007, 12:14 PM
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g300/autobot314/displaymedia1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g300/autobot314/displaymedia.jpg

Dennis M
09-26-2007, 01:07 PM
Sweet!

Can't wait till my copy arrives.:)

Spanbauer
09-27-2007, 12:05 AM
Is the behind the scenes additional content going to be presented in HD on the HD DVD copy? Nelson mentioned during production that they were shooting some behind the scenes stuff in HD, which is why I thought it should/could be so on the HD DVD release.

Alpina
09-27-2007, 04:13 AM
My thoughts after reading the thread goes as follows;

Mr Bay, stop concerning about the movie, it's already a hit, focus your efforts on making movie two even greater!
All of you whom yells about the dinobots, why?! Scorponock's plot in the movie were almost no-existent, why bring more brainless characters when there's so many that needs the screentime? Starscream, Arcee ie. Animal-tf's = keep 'em away! I promise you that the line "-Me grimlock no boozo, me Grimlock king" or any derivatives there of will send the audience ROTFL.
When IMAX is supposed to enhance the visuall experience, why add only non visual-expereience-enhancing scenes such as the ones mentioned? We have an IMAX-theatre in Stockholm which, as far as I know, doesn't show cinemamovies but only documentaries such as Planet Earth since it's located at the national musem of naturalhistory, not feeling the loss at all there.
Make the next movie longer! We need alot more screentime for the robots in the next movie, character development beeing the keyword IMO.Pretty much cover's it al, your thoughts?

Galvatron
09-27-2007, 08:36 AM
My thoughts after reading the thread goes as follows;
Mr Bay, stop concerning about the movie, it's already a hit, focus your efforts on making movie two even greater!
All of you whom yells about the dinobots, why?! Scorponock's plot in the movie were almost no-existent, why bring more brainless characters when there's so many that needs the screentime? Starscream, Arcee ie. Animal-tf's = keep 'em away! I promise you that the line "-Me grimlock no boozo, me Grimlock king" or any derivatives there of will send the audience ROTFL.
When IMAX is supposed to enhance the visuall experience, why add only non visual-expereience-enhancing scenes such as the ones mentioned? We have an IMAX-theatre in Stockholm which, as far as I know, doesn't show cinemamovies but only documentaries such as Planet Earth since it's located at the national musem of naturalhistory, not feeling the loss at all there.
Make the next movie longer! We need alot more screentime for the robots in the next movie, character development beeing the keyword IMO.Pretty much cover's it al, your thoughts?

Personally I liked Scorponok a lot and thought that was a kick ass battle scene, for a "brainless" bot or at least since he did not speak, he put up a great fight and was one of the few that lived.

Imax is not just about the image it is also about the great sound enhancements too and they were awesome, 12,000 watts of audio power in my theater.

Perhaps there were no additional robot scenes in the Imax version because there simply were no additional CGI shots to put in and if there were maybe they just would not fit in with the script ?

Two and a half hours is long enough to tell a story like that let alone a sequel and I'm not sure if I would want to sit in a theater for three hours or longer it would just get too tiring.

uraydo
09-27-2007, 07:44 PM
More info on the DVD

http://www.thetransformers.net/newsstory.asp?NewsID=1965


Will the extra IMAX scenes be on the DVD after all?

brAnd7onX
09-27-2007, 09:48 PM
More info on the DVD

http://www.thetransformers.net/newsstory.asp?NewsID=1965


Will the extra IMAX scenes be on the DVD after all?

i honestly dont care if the IMAX scenes are on the DVD... its not like they added more robot time. it was just some small humor added on scenes.

AllThatJazz
09-28-2007, 12:35 PM
More info on the DVD

http://www.thetransformers.net/newsstory.asp?NewsID=1965


Will the extra IMAX scenes be on the DVD after all?
Well, if that info is correct, it looks like they will.

Mobe1969
09-29-2007, 02:15 AM
I do hope they take a leaf from the much maligned George Lucas' book and make sure the extra bits are on the DVD. Like Lucas did for Revenge of the Sith.

Short of me flying overseas, there is no chance for me to see the extra footage.

Galvatron
09-29-2007, 09:45 AM
I do hope they take a leaf from the much maligned George Lucas' book and make sure the extra bits are on the DVD. Like Lucas did for Revenge of the Sith.

Short of me flying overseas, there is no chance for me to see the extra footage.

The general feeling is that the extra footage was not really relevant to the rest of the movie, don't get me wrong, it fit well of course with the rest of the movie and it was cool to see it but you didn't miss out on anything really.

Most people were just happy to see it again with a much bigger screen and better sound in Imax.

I would have gone to the Imax screening even if no additional footage was included.

I was just impressed with the picture clarity and the awesome sound in Imax.

:)

Sam_Witwickey001
11-28-2007, 10:57 AM
I havent seen it yet but I know Im gonna try to see it...Ill tell U all how good it was....Note: Im not gloting......

Bumblebee1983
11-28-2007, 11:04 AM
The general feeling is that the extra footage was not really relevant to the rest of the movie, don't get me wrong, it fit well of course with the rest of the movie and it was cool to see it but you didn't miss out on anything really.

Most people were just happy to see it again with a much bigger screen and better sound in Imax.

I would have gone to the Imax screening even if no additional footage was included.

I was just impressed with the picture clarity and the awesome sound in Imax.

:)

*clapping*

Me too!! On all those bolded accounts. ;)

Sam_Witwickey001
11-28-2007, 11:19 AM
And when i do see it I know im gonna cry again when they catch Bumblebee!

Bumblebee1983
11-28-2007, 11:40 AM
And when i do see it I know im gonna cry again when they catch Bumblebee!

I know, such a sad scene.

But then the Bee gets his revenge....sorta. :o

Shadow
11-28-2007, 04:51 PM
Thee IMAX version was way better on the eyes. Seen it 4 times in normal format then 3 times in IMAX. The sound is so much better also. As for the extra stuff, I could have done without it. It had nothing to do with the Transformers and that what everyone was wanting. I would have liked to see more of the Bumblebee/Barricade fight. But hay life must go on.

Sam_Witwickey001
11-29-2007, 10:21 AM
Well...Dosent the IMAX one have more scenes in it?

Bumblebee1983
11-29-2007, 11:30 AM
Well...Dosent the IMAX one have more scenes in it?

Yeah...but no more robot action. :mad:

Sam_Witwickey001
11-29-2007, 05:26 PM
Wate.....I saw some of them, if u Buy the special edition of transformer and watch the deleted scenes U see some of the parts that arnt in the actuall movie.....But I still dont get it....Why didnt he put the deleted scenes in the special edition??????????? Thats what confuses me!!!!:confused:

peterkadar
12-16-2007, 04:21 PM
I saw Transformers about a day or two after it came out. The first thing I thought was "Wow, this would be amazing in IMAX" I hope I can still find it playing somewhere!!

Kenzo
12-27-2007, 01:00 PM
If they bring the IMAX version on DVD could they fix the F22/F35 mix

in his commentary he said that the Die Hard 4 crew used CGI F22 and he used real F22
But in Die Hard 4 they used an F35 and since that plane insn't yet in service they couldn't actually use a real one

xXRavenXx
12-27-2007, 04:03 PM
I saw the IMAX print and it is awesome! It is the future of cinema to see movies in this format. I'm going to see Tranformers one last time and get ready to gear up for Transformers 2. I added two minutes of stuff for IMAX that will never make into any DVD's. There will never be an extended edition.

About the DVD. I like the two disc set. It has all the extras that the others don't have. It is the definitive edition of Transformers. It really breaks down how we made the movie.

Anyway hope you like the IMAX print!

Bay

Devastator has a point. Yea IMax is the Definitive Format, but even for a large town like Shreveport we only have an IMAX in New Orleans and a Science Museum. It is the medium of future theaters (I look forward to IMAX Drive in's like have been talked about some).

Also, I don't own one, but any chance in a Blu-Ray release?

@Bay: I don't know if you have seen the DVD of Spider-Man 3, but whoa it goes in depth at the CGI. Transformers goes into directors insight (and I dont know what the academy gets), but even though Transformers visually blows itsy bitsy Spidey out of his "Water Spout" the DVD makes i look far more superior. The specials make the watcher feel like they have received a backstage pass and seen things no-one has seen. Even a little spat between Kirsten and Topher. I would say watch it just to get the feel. I walked out of spidey underwhelmed, but watched the DVD and felt special.