Blu-ray vs. HD DVD info

[TIMtationX]

Such a smart move by Paramount.....:confused:

- Blu-ray holds 90% market share in Japan for both movies and hardware

- In US Blu-ray has 63% standalone unit market share and over 66% of hi-def disc sales

- 70% of hi-def sales in Europe are Blu-ray with 3:1 ratio over HD DVD

[Devastator]

HD-DVD is cheaper and the movies look the same one either format. I don't get it. Been trying to justify BD but I just cant with its insane price nowadays. The numbers may show BD being ahead but I bet it shrinks to 50-50 by x-mas.

[xXRavenXx]

Such a smart move by Paramount.....:confused:

- Blu-ray holds 90% market share in Japan for both movies and hardware

- In US Blu-ray has 63% standalone unit market share and over 66% of hi-def disc sales

- 70% of hi-def sales in Europe are Blu-ray with 3:1 ratio over HD DVD

Blue Ray also has a tougher coyrigh tprotection that HD DVD. Making it more expensive, but more friendly to the film industry.

The reason the HD Dvd will end up winning the format war is plain and simple. about 2 years ago the Porn industry held on to this new medium, and it let them be able to issue (what I like to call) watch with the volume off films. Since HD wasn't a mass release most of those recorded films (sold to video stores) had a down grade to dvd. Cheaper faster, and better quality than dvd.

1,200 dollar blue ray prices and the PS3's lack of success didn't help either. BETAMAX vs VHS anyone?

[Mobe1969]

Blue Ray also has a tougher coyrigh tprotection that HD DVD. Making it more expensive, but more friendly to the film industry.

The reason the HD Dvd will end up winning the format war is plain and simple. about 2 years ago the Porn industry held on to this new medium, and it let them be able to issue (what I like to call) watch with the volume off films. Since HD wasn't a mass release most of those recorded films (sold to video stores) had a down grade to dvd. Cheaper faster, and better quality than dvd.

1,200 dollar blue ray prices and the PS3's lack of success didn't help either. BETAMAX vs VHS anyone?

I think the porn argument is spurious. It isn't like you are back in the VHS/Beta days where the options were actually buying porn on reel-film, which would be hideously expensive. Nowdays, you can download HD material I believe. Who purchases prerecorded media? Are they making enough sales to actually affect the sales figures of HD vs Blu Ray? No, not even slightly. They wouldn't even account for 5% of sales. So it is such a n embarassingly flawed argument (and yes, I heard the same BS from Harry at aicn).

I'd personally prefer HD to win, but at this stage of the game, I just can not see it. Blu ray has every market so far, even after getting out way later. And in Japan, there is sweet FA chance of HD making up from the 90:10 imbalance.

Transformers and Shrek 3 on HD is definitely a coup in the US/Europe/Aus market, and will make a bit dent on release as it is guaranteed to be top sellers. However, they will not be HD releases in Japan (Transformers was a Fox release in Japan). But I still don't see Paramount turning the tide.

I just hope the players get more affordable. They are in the US, but in Australia, they are still a bit expensive. And Toshiba has basically HD exclusive monopoly on the hardware. If they were cheaper (say $300-400), I would not have an issue having two decks. In which case I'd buy whatever I wanted - which had the best transfer. HD has a better track record for transfers I believe, as blu ray has been pathetic in their use of mpeg2 encoding (over 50% of titles are just mpeg2 encoded).

[xXRavenXx]

I think the porn argument is spurious. It isn't like you are back in the VHS/Beta days where the options were actually buying porn on reel-film, which would be hideously expensive. Nowdays, you can download HD material I believe. Who purchases prerecorded media? Are they making enough sales to actually affect the sales figures of HD vs Blu Ray? No, not even slightly. They wouldn't even account for 5% of sales. So it is such a n embarassingly flawed argument (and yes, I heard the same BS from Harry at aicn).

I'd personally prefer HD to win, but at this stage of the game, I just can not see it. Blu ray has every market so far, even after getting out way later. And in Japan, there is sweet FA chance of HD making up from the 90:10 imbalance.

Transformers and Shrek 3 on HD is definitely a coup in the US/Europe/Aus market, and will make a bit dent on release as it is guaranteed to be top sellers. However, they will not be HD releases in Japan (Transformers was a Fox release in Japan). But I still don't see Paramount turning the tide.

I just hope the players get more affordable. They are in the US, but in Australia, they are still a bit expensive. And Toshiba has basically HD exclusive monopoly on the hardware. If they were cheaper (say $300-400), I would not have an issue having two decks. In which case I'd buy whatever I wanted - which had the best transfer. HD has a better track record for transfers I believe, as blu ray has been pathetic in their use of mpeg2 encoding (over 50% of titles are just mpeg2 encoded).

It's not the sales of the Porno that was the release that was the problem. Since they do have a huge% of the dvd market (as most is straight to film n e ways) they went with the cheaper HD dvd. That way they could record straight to the format, skipping a large part of DI conversion and save some time money, and get in good with the HD dvd equipment offered early on to establish their support of the medium even when it was in competition with BDvD.

Yea porn wasn't the be all end all of the reason HD dvd will likely win, but it started a HUGE movement in the film industry saying "wow if Jenna Jamison can look this good" what can they do with GFRobots!. So they helped give it a small kick in the ass.

I do see what ya mean though. There was an article on this in Backstage, and in Variety a while back.


EDIT**

yea the players are going to get WAAAY cheaper. I am a big Computer Nerd who moonlighted for ZGeek Squad (before they were geek squad) in L.A.. And Toshiba is including HD Dvd burners/Roms in all Hardware, and before to long if sony starts to put blu-rays in there they will be shooting themselves in the foot by puting a bluray reader in their laptops when it will lose the format war. Sony is in deep enough shit as it is with the high price of PS3... HD DVD WILL win the war even though BlueRay is the better Disc quality. Sad but true =(

[JesterJJZ]

I don't care who wins, I just want one to lose and go away forever and soon.

[Trigger Mike]

I don't care who wins, I just want one to lose and go away forever and soon.

No chance of this thing ending any time soon. With the Paramount deal, this thing is going to last at least another 2 years.

I think this little war (DVD still murders HD in terms of sales, so we are fighting over scraps here) is doing nothing else but keeping possible adopters out.