Michael Bay's Ninja Turtles Reboot Delayed

[starscream1017]

Paramount Pictures has postponed the planned release of the upcoming Platinum Dunes reboot, Ninja Turtles (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=54765), says a story at The Hollywood Reporter. Originally set for release on Christmas Day, 2013, the project is now targeting a May 2014 release.

Michael Bay is producing with Jonathan Liebesman (Wrath of the Titans) directing from a screenplay by Josh Appelbaum and André Nemec (Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol). The turtles are expected to be motion capture CGI, much like what we saw in last year's Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

The franchise, which began as a black and white comic book series in 1984, rose to tremendous popularity when it became an animated series in 1987. Following the first live-action film in 1990, the series spawned two live-action sequels, a live-action television series, a second animated series and a CGI feature film.

Source: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=91574

so Ninja Turtles and Transformers 4 the same summer???

Im Pissed.. 1st they push gi joe back and now this..

[starscream1017]

everyone reporting it now.. ign has the headline Ninja Turtles Shut Down- http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/15/ninja-turtles-shut-down?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

I see the Hater army building up on twitter.. they are like cockroaches, they smell the bait, they starting to crawl out..

[MV95]

So Bay is going to have to work on the two movies at exactly same time? I wonder how that's going to work out. He would have to even with the 2013 release, but having them release the movies just a month apart from each other has to be complicated.

[Albershide]

I guess the delays are normal for Paramount lately. First they delayed Hansel and Gretel then Star Trek 2 then G.I. Joe and now Ninja Turtles. So next stop - TF4. : rol

[starscream1017]

now some places saying cancelled.. some saying pushed back..

wish Michael would really tell us whats going on..

[Albershide]

THR - The movie is delayed because of script issues.
Deadline - The movie is delayed because of budget issues.
Comingsoon - Michael Bay's Ninja Turtles.... (No wonder people think he is directing.)

Don't you just love the World Wide Web. :lmao

[NIBMRatchet]

Two summer movies for two franchises can hurt both. Most probably that Transformers 4 may get pushed back to 2015. Just speculating. I would like to know Mr. Bay's view on this.

[starscream1017]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlH6pYXf__A

IGN Vid

f***in Paramount man.. if they push back Transformers, im going on a killing spree! :mad:

you think if Paramount does cancel the film, they will take it to a diff film studio? can they do that?

[Bayhem]

Two summer movies for two franchises can hurt both. Most probably that Transformers 4 may get pushed back to 2015.


This will never happen, simply because "Ninja Turtles" can't hurt in any way, shape or form "Transformers". The "Transformers" franchise is one of the biggest and most successful movie franchises in history. "Ninja Turtles" can't compete with that. It's virtually impossible for that movie to be a serious threat to "Transformers 4".

"Ninja Turtles" will probably end up as a mid-level (in terms of box office success) movie franchise. Kinda like "Resident Evil". In other words, it'll be successful, but not as successful as "Transformers", "Batman" or "Harry Potter".

[Dan]

Why is IGN saying the film is co-written by Kevin Eastman? The film is written by Andre Nemec and
Josh Appelbaum.



This will never happen, simply because "Ninja Turtles" can't hurt in any way, shape or form "Transformers". The "Transformers" franchise is one of the biggest and most successful movie franchises in history. "Ninja Turtles" can't compete with that. It's virtually impossible for that movie to be a serious threat to "Transformers 4".

"Ninja Turtles" will probably end up as a mid-level (in terms of box office success) movie franchise. Kinda like "Resident Evil". In other words, it'll be successful, but not as successful as "Transformers", "Batman" or "Harry Potter". The Ninja Turtles were pretty huge in the 80's and 90's. Do you really think the Transformers fan base is that much bigger?

[Bayhem]

The Ninja Turtles were pretty huge in the 80's and 90's. Do you really think the Transformers fan base is that much bigger?


I'm not talking about fans. Fan groups are a small part of the general movie going public. I only trust numbers, trackings and part of my job is to predict how a product would perform among the general audience. And with all of that in mind, I can say that there's no way that "Ninja Turtles" can outperform the first live-action "Transformers" movie. That movie made over $700 million worlwide. Not counting the DVD sales.

If everything actually works out, "Ninja Turtles" will probably end up like "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" (by the way, the movie will use the same mo-cap technology) - around $400-$500 milllion worldwide. And that's the best-case scenario.

[Dan]

But why do you think that though? Paramount has said they want this film to be the next Transformers and comic book based movies usually do pretty well with the general public.

[Bayhem]

But why do you think that though?


Please check my previous comment again. Thank you.



Paramount has said they want this film to be the next Transformers...


The folks at Warner said that "Green Lantern" (a comic book movie with a budget of over $200 million) will be the start of a huge movie franchise that would take the place of "Harry Potter". And we all saw what happened there. Before a big movie comes out, studios are always ecstatically optimistic.

Then, reality comes in.

[Dan]

Please check my previous comment again. Thank you. So your saying it's impossible to make over $700 million worldwide? 45 other films have done it, it's hard but not impossible.

[Bayhem]

So your saying it's impossible to make over $700 million worldwide?.


Questions, questions, questions...

This is not going anywhere. I think I've made myself clear with my posts on this thread. I'm not here to explain every single word and every single thing about the movie business. I'm not the guy for that, there are smarter people for that job. I posted my thoughts - thoughts based on (at least some) experience in the area "product/buyer", based on trackings for these types of films, and based on my own observation so far - and there's nothing else I can add.

You think the Turtles movie can compete with the "Transforemrs" brand? Well, you're entitled to your opinion. In a few years we'll see if the actual numbers will support that claim.


That's all from me on this subject.

[NIBMRatchet]

The thing is, we can’t compare Transformers to Ninja Turtles.

Back in the late 80s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was the most successful out of the two. While Hasbro’s Transformers and G. I. Joe were quite popular, they were nowhere near the stardom of TMNT.

The success of Turtles was all to its international phenomenon status. Despite how popular TF and the Joes were, they were mostly recognized in the US. Joes gained international recognition after they got shipped to other countries as G. I. Joe: International Heroes. Trust me I know, I’ve been through this as an Asian.

2007 was an amazing year for Transformers. Why? because Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg was the right combination to do a TF movie. I’m sure Hasbro nor Paramount expected such a phenomenon. But then they tried to see if they can apply the same formula to G. I. Joe and other Hasbro brands. But it didn’t work.

What Paramount is trying to do is to bring back the sensation that was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, to see if it works.

In recent years we’ve seen quite a lot of old franchises revived in some form or another. For example, Transformers, G. I. Joe, My Little Pony, Thundercats, Pound Puppies, Care Bears and the list goes on and on. They were all famous brands of late 80s. But to make it work they need to realizes they must go beyond what made them popular in the first place. Good examples are Transformers and My Little Pony.

Will the new formula work for TMNT? we don’t know yet. But if played right, Paramount can make TMNT a bigger sensation than Transformers and make it the successor of TF Live Action Series. Despite how much we like it, Transformers can’t stick around all the time. That’s what happened to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in the past, that’s what happened to Transformers in the past, that’s what happened to G. I. Joe as well.

I’m up for anything. I have my own tastes yet I like to see something new. As long as they don’t do a Dragon Ball… I’m cool with anything. :)

[MV95]

My reason that Ninja Turtles won't outperform Transformers is it's just not the type of thing that a lot of people would see in my opinion. Transformers are giant metal aliens that turn into awesome cars and cause complete mayhem and destruction. It's the perfect summer action movie. Ninja Turtles are TURTLES that fight off bad guys without a bunch of mayhem and destruction. I see it only making $550 million tops when/if it comes out. (But please understand the fact that I'm obsessed with Transformers and I never liked TMNT so my opinion is a bit biased) :D

[Bot of Badassness]

So I guess the hope of a Ninja Turtles teaser with Pain and Gain and a Transformers teaser with Ninja Turtles won't happen now...

This is pretty damn screwed up.

[Dan]

So apparently the now-aborted Michael Bat TMNT script had Krang, Dimension X and Bebop & Rocksteady. If that's true I'm glad it got canned as I don't want any of those things in the film.
http://durancemagazine.org/2012/06/three-fan-favorite-characters-to-make-their-live-action-debuts-in-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-reboot/#.T-Jw2rXY-rQ (http://durancemagazine.org/2012/06/three-fan-favorite-characters-to-make-their-live-action-debuts-in-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-reboot/#.T-Jw2rXY-rQ)

[Bot of Badassness]

Instead of moving Transformers, are they going to do the same with X-Men and Planet of the Apes?

[starscream1017]

So apparently the now-aborted Michael Bat TMNT script had Krang, Dimension X and Bebop & Rocksteady. If that's true I'm glad it got canned as I don't want any of those things in the film.
http://durancemagazine.org/2012/06/three-fan-favorite-characters-to-make-their-live-action-debuts-in-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-reboot/#.T-Jw2rXY-rQ (http://durancemagazine.org/2012/06/three-fan-favorite-characters-to-make-their-live-action-debuts-in-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-reboot/#.T-Jw2rXY-rQ)

those are the exact things i want to see in the movie!!! love bebop & rocksteady.. hope they are in the new script as well..

[Dan]

Now El Mayimbe says he'll only post a review once he gets 10k followers. Pretty weak. I suggest you all follow him if you want to know more about the film. https://twitter.com/elmayimbe/status/215661212103487488

[metsuke]

They should delay more Ninja Turtles, but a lot more, to work on T4 first, hehe

[Albershide]

2 reasons why the movie was delayed:


"Essentially they pushed it back for two reasons: One is the director, Jonathan Liebesman, wanted to make sure he could do the effects to the level he wants them at, and the fight scenes to the way they should be. Also, their release date is almost exactly on the 30th anniversary. May 5, 1984 is when the first Turtles comic came out. May 16, 2014, is almost exactly 30 years after. So basically it's an anniversary movie now."

Fair enough. :)

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=65327

[Gabriel]

Michael Bay’s Ninja Turtles Starts Shooting In April (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/01/12/ninja-turtles-starts-shooting-in-april/)

[i-MAN]

Michael Bay’s Ninja Turtles Starts Shooting In April (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/01/12/ninja-turtles-starts-shooting-in-april/)



Good to know.
Anyone seen the new awesome animated series on nick ?
they nailed it just right ! , hopes michael and Jonathan have seen it, if the movie is half as good as the new series they are in for yet another moneybomb

[Flyingheart]

Good to know.
Anyone seen the new awesome animated series on nick ?
they nailed it just right ! , hopes michael and Jonathan have seen it, if the movie is half as good as the new series they are in for yet another moneybomb

Ha really? I'll check it out ;)
I think the movie should contain the sewer and pizza-ordering and inventing and all the things the turtles did back then in the cartoon :)

[i-MAN]

Ha really? I'll check it out ;)
I think the movie should contain the sewer and pizza-ordering and inventing and all the things the turtles did back then in the cartoon :)

It's a must see !, it's funny, fight scene's are great, interaction between the turtles is so natural. And yes pizza too ! you must check it out

[starscream1017]

Good to know.
Anyone seen the new awesome animated series on nick ?
they nailed it just right ! , hopes michael and Jonathan have seen it, if the movie is half as good as the new series they are in for yet another moneybomb


Booyakashaaaa!

Man the show is amazing! Loving it, that leatherhead episode was epic! Can't wait for the next episode, will have Rat King in it. I hope the movie guys watch the show as well.. Ive been watchin all the episodes & buying all the figures.

i would really love to see Greg Cipes voice Mikey in the movie as well. That dude is a pefect fit!

[Dan]

I think the movie should contain the sewer and pizza-ordering and inventing and all the things the turtles did back then in the cartoon :)I just hope they don't over do the pizza thing.

[Albershide]

All the headlines on the web are "Michael Bay's Ninja Turtles to Start Filming in April". So I'm not surprised that most people think that he is directing the movie. Why they don't use Steven Spielberg's Transformers for example? Obviously Michael Bay's name sells better. :)