Villain Poll

[MitP]

Who should be the "Big Bad" of TF4?

[Trailbreaker]

Liege Maximo. (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Liege_Maximo)

[almostthethird15]

Somebody original please. That would be awesome. Let their imaginations free on something completely new.

[Bot of Badassness]

Scourge could be the new Decepticon leader (like he was in Robots in Disguise). Bruticus could also be cool. Perhaps Unicron could be done in a way similar to how he was in Prime.

Please, no Megatron.

[Trailbreaker]

I like the idea of the Autobots having a rogues gallery (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RoguesGallery), that is, the Autobots having to deal with the "villain of the week" rather than the same old Decepticons for each movie. It makes things more interesting.

Hell, there doesn't even need to be a physical bad guy. The "villain" could be a huge catastrophic force of nature.

[Bot of Badassness]

Actually, it could be kinda cool if it's another type of alien, perhaps something similar to the villains in G1's Atlantis Arise.

Just a thought.

[horizon]

Ratbat.
Scorponok - headmaster (re-imagened)

[swishbig]

I would really like to have Galvatron to be the main villain. They don't even need to have the story of which Megatron turns in to Galv.

[Scott2Hottie]

Dinobots VS Bruticus!!!!!

[BAYisBEAST]

If they could pull it off, the Dinobots.

[Albershide]

A new common enemy for both Decepticons and Autobots would be fine. Like the Quintessons. But I guess after the last news it won't happen. It'll be the same old fight D-cons vs. Autobots. Although I don't want it I'm guessing they'll bring Galvatron.

[Bot of Badassness]

How about the proper Sideways. the one that is a herald for Unicron and switches sides between the 'bots and the 'cons a lot?

[Ol' Ironhide]

I am agreein' with Scorponok. I think it would be pretty cool to see a small con able to combine with a fortress sized body. All out battle between Fortress Maximus and Scorponok? Or maybe Metroplex vs Trypticon? Or Hey! Why not Leozak? Or Sixshot? Also think it would be pretty interesting to bring in the bounty hunter Devcon. One not on either side.

[TehFPG]

all this G1 worshipping is killing creativity... :head

[Ol' Ironhide]

all this G1 worshipping is killing creativity... :head

Everything started with G1, and what is the best place to start? Where it began.

[Crainy]

Everything started with G1, and what is the best place to start? Where it began.

Bullshit.

Give us something new, maybe a reinterpretation of the Quintessons.

[Mr.Gabba]

Galvatron. He can bring his crew of Cyclonus, Scourge and the Sweeps along. Give him additional firepower with groups like the Stunticons and the Triplechangers. Combine him with Unicron as Unicron's "creation". You can use countless Sweeps ala the Protoform Decepticons from the other movies.

[Grinder]

I'd go with Unicron as the main villain, and use Menasor as the secondary which in turn lets you use the Stunticons which would be kickass. Also the combaticons have potential (brutus, onslaught, blast off, vortex, brawl and swindle). Basically, there is a ton of transformers lore left to be used.

[geneticfreak]

I'd say Galvatron, but not just a reincarnated Megatron, but one that is more of a combination of Megatron and Sentinel, where he has Megatron's thirst for domination combined with Sentinel's superior knowledge.

[I Fight Giant Robots]

Something new and original is the way to go. Being a movie fan over any other series, i prefer the movies' ideas far more than anything else.:borat

[mattimus prime]

how about lord straxus

[horizon]

Lord Straxus was as bland as Thunderwing (comics'80's).

Something new: no. It is about Autobots vs Decepticons. It is the essence.

[MV95]

How about no villians. Maybe have the Autobots dealing with some type of problem on earth. It could work. Probably won't happen but I think it could work.

[swishbig]

How about no villians. Maybe have the Autobots dealing with some type of problem on earth. It could work. Probably won't happen but I think it could work.

Haha that would be highly unlikely. It wouldn't be as exciting.

[Bot of Badassness]

Any body like the idea of a different type of Alien?
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In DOTM Brains said that he could tell everybody "about all of the fun planets to hang out in". He may be hinting to there being other lifeforms out there, lifeforms that the Autobots could fight.

[darthrage]

I voted Quintessons

We already saw 3 versions of Megatron. I do NOT want to see a 4th version of him renamed Galvatron

[Bot of Badassness]

Actually yeah, I'll vote for Quintessons, seeing a live action version of them would be pretty badass if done right.

[darthrage]

Actually yeah, I'll vote for Quintessons, seeing a live action version of them would be pretty badass if done right.

The beauty of the quintessons in a Michael Bay Transformers movie is that, it can look like anything because it's Michael Bay's version. He can design anyway he want which is what I am excited about cuz I wanna see what he'll come up with next

[Bot of Badassness]

As long as the Judges have rotating faces.

[Moy]

Considering how the Dreads turned out, I wouldn't mind a complete new made up character for the franchise. It's too bad Shockwave isn't alive because he could easily take on 4 autobots.

[Bot of Badassness]

You can have both Unicron and Galvatron in the same movie. Unicron would be the big bad with Galvatron and the Sweeps being his heralds/minions.

[the_almighty_moo]

i think maybe Galvatron doing a transformers armada Sideways style affair.

He is just the avatar of unicron and cant really be killed unless unicron dies.

or what about Starscream? they could use the "immortal spark" route

[saberrider]

Michael,TF fans all around the world would like to see Overload as Decepticons Leader & Black Zarak as his partner, also bring in Thundercracker & Skywarp to be his sidekick...also introduce Combaticons to form Bruticus & Stunticons to form Menasor as well, then this movie must be fun...For Autobots sides,add in Skyhammer,Hound & Aerial Bot to form Superion & bring back Jolt as well..We need a massive aerial fight in TF4...This is very important...and end it with an intense city fight in night mode...Don't bring in any protoform soldier & alien craft again,that's quite lousy...Just show enough fight scene & screen time on every robot, this will satisfied every fans..trust me...To achieve that the budget need to be around 300 million, Michael, I believe you can do it, lets bring the excitement & the climax to all of us!!thanks...hope everyone agree with me send this message to Michael, I wish he would listen....

[megatronus]

As a Blackarachnia fan I would to see her as a villain, but not the main villain. For the main villain I woulld like to nominate Overlord.

[kup]

Optimus needs to die. Sorry. It has to happen. Otherwise it's just the same old same old. We to have that despair and the rising of a new leader for new folks to latch on to. It's going to get stale if Optimus can kill every Decepticon, Sentinel Prime, Megatron, the Fallen, etc. He's too OP (pun intended) in the movieverse. It's time for a change and some new blood. I'd like to see an Overlord type or Unicron/Galvatron mix. As far as bots are concerned, if I ever get to see Springer and Kup, I'll be content for life.

[CesarCardoso]

Optimus needs to die. Sorry. It has to happen. Otherwise it's just the same old same old. We to have that despair and the rising of a new leader for new folks to latch on to. It's going to get stale if Optimus can kill every Decepticon, Sentinel Prime, Megatron, the Fallen, etc. He's too OP (pun intended) in the movieverse. It's time for a change and some new blood. I'd like to see an Overlord type or Unicron/Galvatron mix. As far as bots are concerned, if I ever get to see Springer and Kup, I'll be content for life.

op doesnt need to die. all he has to do is say "screw this, i quit!".

[Trailbreaker]

Optimus needs to die. Sorry. It has to happen. Otherwise it's just the same old same old. We to have that despair and the rising of a new leader for new folks to latch on to. It's going to get stale if Optimus can kill every Decepticon, Sentinel Prime, Megatron, the Fallen, etc. He's too OP (pun intended) in the movieverse. It's time for a change and some new blood. I'd like to see an Overlord type or Unicron/Galvatron mix. As far as bots are concerned, if I ever get to see Springer and Kup, I'll be content for life.
But...he already died once.

You know what hasn't been done before? A Prime simply passing the torch (or the Matrix in this case) to a new one. Who says succession has to always be through death?

[swishbig]

Optimus shall not die in TF4! That has already been seen!

[Matthew62]

Why not optimus is tricked by a fellow autobot and trapped on cybertron and then the autobots decepticons wage war over optimus

[Hippogriffomon45]

Liege Maximo. (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Liege_Maximo)

I was just thinking the same thing.

[Honeykitt]

Nemesis Prime maybe?

As much as I don't get why Optimus always has to have such terrible things happen to him like his mentor he cared so much for going apenuts and having to deal with him, maybe have Nemesis Prime show up and Optimus has to face his inner demons and regrets out in the open.

[Universal Kalle]

I'd like to see Shockwave to be done properly. He's one of my all-time favourite Cybertronian but in the movie was just a notch above cannon fodder. He deserved AT LEAST a lines beyond "Optimus". Also note that he didn't say Prime as Megatron does. Backstory door open!

We did not actually see him die as his Spark wasn't destroyed. I'd like it if a whole bunch of the defeated Decepticons had disappeared from the battlefield, as the humans and Autobots were busy and couldn't just sit around to baby-sit defeated Cons. The story would then circle around the fact that the Cybertronians don't have a reliable source of Energon and what they can get from other sources just isn't cutting it anymore. Shockwave predicted this a long, long time ago and travelled around the galaxy performing experiments on different planets to start a process in them so they would become a new source of Energon after thousands or millions of years. Earth is one of these planets and now it is time for the final change. Shockwave could've buried a device deep underground that he now needs to finish what he started. Back in the day the Dinobots had followed Shockwave to Earth to stop him, but failed. They've been in stasis lock ever since and are found during the search for the device. Wether they take dinoforms or not doesn't really matter, but in the past they could've used them for the battle against Shockwave. (Those of you who've read the comics will recognize this plot.)

The Dinobots being a special forces kind of unit who're sent out for the most dangerous missions never cared much for disguising themselves so it wouldn't be odd if they'd still use their dinoforms. These are NOT the dinobots from the cartoon! They're the highly intelligent bots from the comics. There's a HUGE difference and I suspect Bay only really knows about the cartoon.

It is starting to become a bit ridiculous that the Cybertronians have come to Earth so many times. Why Earth and not some other planet? Well.. That's where Primus and Unicron could come in. In the comics they were demi-gods who'd fought eachother since the dawn of time. Primus fighting for light, life and freedom while Unicron being chaos and destruction personified. Primus knew he couldn't beat Unicron in a straight up fight, so he tricked Unicron into binding with a planet out in space. Primus also bound himself to a planet. Unicron learned to alter his planet over time and thus was his current form as the huge fracking robot, we saw in the comics and movie, born. Primus turned into Cybertron and created the Transformers to fight Unicron. Eons passed, Primus fell "asleep" and the Transformers forgot about their destiny and their civil war started. In the comics one of the Autobots started wondering why they'd been taking alt-forms that fit humans so well even before they'd been to Earth. I can't remember which comic that was in though..

So.. Back to the movies.. Primus could be the Allspark (or that might only be a creation of his) and even though the Allspark was destroyed he lives on in all Cybertronians. He's been guiding them to Earth (for some reason someone who's being paid can figure out) but the bots don't know why. So they built the Harvester to turn our sun into Energon. Later Primus turned Sentinel Prime's and Megatron's eyes towards Earth and they hatched the plan that came into play in Dark of the Moon. He even nudged the Ark towards Earth after it was hit and started floating aimlessly in space. After that when the Allspark was launched into space he guided that to Earth which lead to the events of the first movie. Why he would guide the bots to Earth is unknown and that could be for a fifth+ movie.

Another thing that could be woven into this are the old Cybertronian abilities such as creating Space Bridges surfacing again. Skywarp has this ability (but in a more limited capacity). Mass displacement has also come back as some bots can shift part of their mass into another dimension and thus having altmodes smaller than their true forms. Soundwave could have had the ability to hide his Energon emissions. And thus explaining how he apparently could travel the worlds without setting off any alarms and even the Autobots don't see him while he's in vehicle form (I'm running on the assumption that it was Soundwave who Carly go into when she gave Sam the rabbit's foot). Other amazing abilities started resurfacing during the last generations of Cybertronians. These were all preparations for the coming battle with Unicron.



So in short..
Villain for the next movie: Shockwave

Another character who'd make an excellent villain are Scorponoc. Another guy who's so much more than just cannon fodder. In the comics he's an very interesting character who's hovering over the line between Autobot and Decepticon (just as Grimlock has for most of his existence). At first he was firmly in the Decepticon camp but after blending with Zarak and becoming a Headmaster he began to see that conquest wasn't everything. But as the movies did a good job of turning him into a faceless giant scorpion who we never even saw in his true form I don't think he'd work.

[eagc7]

Galvatron, but as long he's a reformatted Megatron

[megatron42]

you people forget galvatron was in renvenge of the fallen.. the writers didn't want to confuse the fans
he was megatron still if you remember

[Universal Kalle]

you people forget galvatron was in renvenge of the fallen.. the writers didn't want to confuse the fans
he was megatron still if you remember

Well.. By your own words that makes him Megatron, not Galvatron. So that's no problem. :)

[Bravepatriot]

I dont care who the villian is, as long as you dont kill off Optimus (this has been done and is old). More forest battle style fights is what is needed.

[the_almighty_moo]

I just hope it isnt cliche.

[Flyingheart]

Fav. Villain..? I want this to be a surprise.. No thanks, but would love to see certain conflicts but also that dead serious everything or nothing kind of mentality that can make you or break you would be sweet to see, not that pussy stuff with Megatron in TF2 and TF3.. was still pretty lame of him.
Also.. Starscream was one big softy in TF2 and 3.. XD sorry Michael ;) i just wanna see that rage and fury back again like in TF1..

[the_almighty_moo]

what about a set of oppressed autobots that have been tourtured and destroyed by fearful humans, they go a bit nutshit crazy and take revenge of humans in general?